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"I doubt many could afford to move out at 20 nowadays. Rents are extortionate and social housing is bare minimal with so many criteria to meet in order to be eligible. In my day you could just rock up at the council or just squat one of their many empty properties " fit the nail in the head, so expensive | |||
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"I doubt many could afford to move out at 20 nowadays. Rents are extortionate and social housing is bare minimal with so many criteria to meet in order to be eligible. In my day you could just rock up at the council or just squat one of their many empty properties " Hi cinnamon, yes, you are right there, not many could move out because it is to expensive too, that is good you could do it in your day, yes, there were many empty properties as well | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣" I was told by my father at 18 you are an adult so you will be moving out | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣 I was told by my father at 18 you are an adult so you will be moving out " Aw  . Think I was about 22. It was easier then though. Bought a lovely new flat for 52K! 🤣 | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣 I was told by my father at 18 you are an adult so you will be moving out Aw . Think I was about 22. It was easier then though. Bought a lovely new flat for 52K! 🤣"It was easier but even then I could only afford a wreck and with help of friends in the trade renovated it and sold at profit which I did three times over before I could buy a nice house for me and a rental | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣 I was told by my father at 18 you are an adult so you will be moving out Aw . Think I was about 22. It was easier then though. Bought a lovely new flat for 52K! 🤣"This. I moved out at 18 and bought for exactly the same amount at 24. My son is that age, still at home and can only dream of moving in with is gf when a room in a shared house rents for north of £1k a month where we live | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣 I was told by my father at 18 you are an adult so you will be moving out Aw . Think I was about 22. It was easier then though. Bought a lovely new flat for 52K! 🤣
This. I moved out at 18 and bought for exactly the same amount at 24. My son is that age, still at home and can only dream of moving in with is gf when a room in a shared house rents for north of £1k a month where we live"I couldn’t afford a property where I lived either had to move away further north | |||
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"It’s something I never understood the rush to have our kids move out, it prevents families ever getting wealthy this is something we should learn from Asian cultures who often have several generations living in one house and are usually as a whole a lot better off I’ve told my kids not to rush to move out, to establish themselves financially with investments while living at home then when they finally do move out save a great deposit first then move out with a small mortgage and decent passive income from investments. My two sons (well one isn’t actually mine he’s exes son) are working and I charge them nothing for living here but insist they get their own food shop, I’ve told them to use this time of low overheads to save and invest as once you move out and have rent, council tax, gas, water, electric, internet ect to pay for its 10 times harder to get self ahead " I've never really seen the logic in trying to save a big deposit. For most, house prices tend to increase quicker than they could save. By all means stay at home and save, but I would have thought it's beter to just buy something they can afford and rent it straight back out. | |||
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"I was 18, Mr N a little older. One of our kids was 17 the other 18. I think it depends on so many things that you can't set an age. Living in a tree house sounds fun, in the summer. "Some I know have moved to pods in the garden but not sure that counts tho . To me where there’s a will there’s a way but they seem to want every home comfort straight away now Where years ago you made do with what you had or were given or scrapped together . When I moved out I bought a second hand cooker and an arm chair certainly never had a tv etc and went to a launderette | |||
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"I was 18, Mr N a little older. One of our kids was 17 the other 18. I think it depends on so many things that you can't set an age. Living in a tree house sounds fun, in the summer.
Some I know have moved to pods in the garden but not sure that counts tho .
To me where there’s a will there’s a way but they seem to want every home comfort straight away now
Where years ago you made do with what you had or were given or scrapped together . When I moved out I bought a second hand cooker and an arm chair certainly never had a tv etc and went to a launderette "I think 'moving out' is a fairly modern thing. Until fairly recently most people lived with their parents until they married. I left to go to college and lived in a variety of less than satisfactory bed sits with shared bathrooms and mice infestations . | |||
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"It’s something I never understood the rush to have our kids move out, it prevents families ever getting wealthy this is something we should learn from Asian cultures who often have several generations living in one house and are usually as a whole a lot better off I’ve told my kids not to rush to move out, to establish themselves financially with investments while living at home then when they finally do move out save a great deposit first then move out with a small mortgage and decent passive income from investments. My two sons (well one isn’t actually mine he’s exes son) are working and I charge them nothing for living here but insist they get their own food shop, I’ve told them to use this time of low overheads to save and invest as once you move out and have rent, council tax, gas, water, electric, internet ect to pay for its 10 times harder to get self ahead I've never really seen the logic in trying to save a big deposit. For most, house prices tend to increase quicker than they could save. By all means stay at home and save, but I would have thought it's beter to just buy something they can afford and rent it straight back out." Just gets a better interest rate really not sure what the stages are but up at certain percentage of Ltv the interest rate drops. You are correct in buying somewhere asap to rent out that is my sons plan to acquire as many cheap rental properties as he can while living at home, don’t need much I got the flat I intend to rent out last November for 26k | |||
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"It’s something I never understood the rush to have our kids move out, it prevents families ever getting wealthy this is something we should learn from Asian cultures who often have several generations living in one house and are usually as a whole a lot better off I’ve told my kids not to rush to move out, to establish themselves financially with investments while living at home then when they finally do move out save a great deposit first then move out with a small mortgage and decent passive income from investments. My two sons (well one isn’t actually mine he’s exes son) are working and I charge them nothing for living here but insist they get their own food shop, I’ve told them to use this time of low overheads to save and invest as once you move out and have rent, council tax, gas, water, electric, internet ect to pay for its 10 times harder to get self ahead " I agree but it’s important to grow up gain life skills and live your own life not your parents. Many of those Asian children spend the rest of their lives supporting their parents & grandparents. I think you should move out at 18, ideally live away at university which also makes you mature and independent and gives you a perspective on the wider world as you’ll meet very different types of people from different places | |||
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"It’s something I never understood the rush to have our kids move out, it prevents families ever getting wealthy this is something we should learn from Asian cultures who often have several generations living in one house and are usually as a whole a lot better off I’ve told my kids not to rush to move out, to establish themselves financially with investments while living at home then when they finally do move out save a great deposit first then move out with a small mortgage and decent passive income from investments. My two sons (well one isn’t actually mine he’s exes son) are working and I charge them nothing for living here but insist they get their own food shop, I’ve told them to use this time of low overheads to save and invest as once you move out and have rent, council tax, gas, water, electric, internet ect to pay for its 10 times harder to get self ahead I've never really seen the logic in trying to save a big deposit. For most, house prices tend to increase quicker than they could save. By all means stay at home and save, but I would have thought it's beter to just buy something they can afford and rent it straight back out. Just gets a better interest rate really not sure what the stages are but up at certain percentage of Ltv the interest rate drops. You are correct in buying somewhere asap to rent out that is my sons plan to acquire as many cheap rental properties as he can while living at home, don’t need much I got the flat I intend to rent out last November for 26k " Fair play to him  | |||
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"Moved out at 18 social housing first. Then managed to get on property ladder. No chance these day rents are extortionate. And there is no social housing. Feel sorry for the young they have very little chance of home ownership." Yep. Both our kids pay close to £1,500 per month in rent before utilities. | |||
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"There's no "should" about it as every child will have their own unique needs, and each parent/child relationship will be different. My eldest will probably need support well into adulthood due to autism. I can see my youngest leaving by 20. I left home at 17 while I was still at school. It was not an easy time." I agree. | |||
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"It's actually quite interesting as different cultures will have different expectations. It does seem like the idea is that as soon as you hit 18, off you fuck to buy or rent your home and in other cultures, it's very normal to have multiple generations under one roof with the idea that the kids helps the parents as they get older. I also think the idea of moving out at 18 is a relatively modern way of thinking but happy to be corrected 🤔" It is. When I was 18 you left home for one of two reasons. To get married or go to university. There were people who had been in care and were cut loose at 16, some who were kicked out by family or lived in for their job among other things but mostly you stayed with your family. | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣" Mine as well. The queue for the bathroom each morning is a nightmare 😂 | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣 Mine as well. The queue for the bathroom each morning is a nightmare 😂" Just pack their bags for them simple | |||
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"I was 18, Mr N a little older. One of our kids was 17 the other 18. I think it depends on so many things that you can't set an age. Living in a tree house sounds fun, in the summer.
Some I know have moved to pods in the garden but not sure that counts tho .
To me where there’s a will there’s a way but they seem to want every home comfort straight away now
Where years ago you made do with what you had or were given or scrapped together . When I moved out I bought a second hand cooker and an arm chair certainly never had a tv etc and went to a launderette
I think 'moving out' is a fairly modern thing.
Until fairly recently most people lived with their parents until they married.
I left to go to college and lived in a variety of less than satisfactory bed sits with shared bathrooms and mice infestations . "I think that’s a class thing. After 1992 with the huge growth in people going to university that significantly changed, whereas it was a fairly middle class expectation to move out, to attend university mostly, more people were doing it. Likewise, Thatcher promoted an idea of home ownership that significantly changed societal expectations. | |||
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"I was 18, Mr N a little older. One of our kids was 17 the other 18. I think it depends on so many things that you can't set an age. Living in a tree house sounds fun, in the summer.
Some I know have moved to pods in the garden but not sure that counts tho .
To me where there’s a will there’s a way but they seem to want every home comfort straight away now
Where years ago you made do with what you had or were given or scrapped together . When I moved out I bought a second hand cooker and an arm chair certainly never had a tv etc and went to a launderette
I think 'moving out' is a fairly modern thing.
Until fairly recently most people lived with their parents until they married.
I left to go to college and lived in a variety of less than satisfactory bed sits with shared bathrooms and mice infestations .
I think that’s a class thing. After 1992 with the huge growth in people going to university that significantly changed, whereas it was a fairly middle class expectation to move out, to attend university mostly, more people were doing it. Likewise, Thatcher promoted an idea of home ownership that significantly changed societal expectations."A class thing? All those things happened long after I left home | |||
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"Will im still at home and had to stop being the child in my early teens and become the adult - the joys of having disabled /chronically ill parents. Still looking after them, couldn't bare to see them in a home having witnessed 1st hand how quickly people deteriorate in them. Would love to move out and have some freedom as its massively affected previous relationships - they're the reason i can never accom as they're house bound. But u do think 20 is a good age but i dont think its fonancially viable for people anymore " That's a difficult life for you. Do you get respite? | |||
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"It’s something I never understood the rush to have our kids move out, it prevents families ever getting wealthy this is something we should learn from Asian cultures who often have several generations living in one house and are usually as a whole a lot better off I’ve told my kids not to rush to move out, to establish themselves financially with investments while living at home then when they finally do move out save a great deposit first then move out with a small mortgage and decent passive income from investments. My two sons (well one isn’t actually mine he’s exes son) are working and I charge them nothing for living here but insist they get their own food shop, I’ve told them to use this time of low overheads to save and invest as once you move out and have rent, council tax, gas, water, electric, internet ect to pay for its 10 times harder to get self ahead " That is good not to rush it, yes in the asian cultures many live together for several generations too | |||
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"Will im still at home and had to stop being the child in my early teens and become the adult - the joys of having disabled /chronically ill parents. Still looking after them, couldn't bare to see them in a home having witnessed 1st hand how quickly people deteriorate in them. Would love to move out and have some freedom as its massively affected previous relationships - they're the reason i can never accom as they're house bound. But u do think 20 is a good age but i dont think its fonancially viable for people anymore That's a difficult life for you. Do you get respite?" Not really i work a full time job, i split the caring with my brother he does daytimes and is paid as a carer and i take over on the evening/early morning so he can have a break. Only time i get to my self is the commute to work or when im "working late" | |||
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 hahaahaha it was hard living that long with them! 😂😂😂
My oldest moved out at 18 but only because he is at Uni… he’ll probably move back in when he finishes and finds a job. Or not. The middle one will be 18 this year and he has no intention of going to uni, but I expect him to work and contribute to household expenses, like I did when I was at home. And yes, we’ll do the “charge them rent and save it for them for later…”
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"Will im still at home and had to stop being the child in my early teens and become the adult - the joys of having disabled /chronically ill parents. Still looking after them, couldn't bare to see them in a home having witnessed 1st hand how quickly people deteriorate in them. Would love to move out and have some freedom as its massively affected previous relationships - they're the reason i can never accom as they're house bound. But u do think 20 is a good age but i dont think its fonancially viable for people anymore That's a difficult life for you. Do you get respite? Not really i work a full time job, i split the caring with my brother he does daytimes and is paid as a carer and i take over on the evening/early morning so he can have a break. Only time i get to my self is the commute to work or when im "working late"" Ah that's hard for you. | |||
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"I was 18, Mr N a little older. One of our kids was 17 the other 18. I think it depends on so many things that you can't set an age. Living in a tree house sounds fun, in the summer. "Hi nicecouple. I see 18 is good, yes, it depends on many things, yes, living in a tree house sounds fun too | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣 I was told by my father at 18 you are an adult so you will be moving out Aw . Think I was about 22. It was easier then though. Bought a lovely new flat for 52K! 🤣
This. I moved out at 18 and bought for exactly the same amount at 24. My son is that age, still at home and can only dream of moving in with is gf when a room in a shared house rents for north of £1k a month where we live"Our kids are screwed aren’t they? - to gain independence they have to give up any notion of saving money. Being able to buy a house? Without assistance from Bank Of Mum and Dad this just a unobtainable dream unless they happen to be in an insanely well paid job. | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣 I was told by my father at 18 you are an adult so you will be moving out Aw . Think I was about 22. It was easier then though. Bought a lovely new flat for 52K! 🤣
This. I moved out at 18 and bought for exactly the same amount at 24. My son is that age, still at home and can only dream of moving in with is gf when a room in a shared house rents for north of £1k a month where we live
Our kids are screwed aren’t they? - to gain independence they have to give up any notion of saving money. Being able to buy a house? Without assistance from Bank Of Mum and Dad this just a unobtainable dream unless they happen to be in an insanely well paid job."My cousins in their 30s still live at home because even in their regional area, housing is diabolically expensive. (Australia is worse than the UK, but same problems) | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣 I was told by my father at 18 you are an adult so you will be moving out Aw . Think I was about 22. It was easier then though. Bought a lovely new flat for 52K! 🤣
This. I moved out at 18 and bought for exactly the same amount at 24. My son is that age, still at home and can only dream of moving in with is gf when a room in a shared house rents for north of £1k a month where we live
Our kids are screwed aren’t they? - to gain independence they have to give up any notion of saving money. Being able to buy a house? Without assistance from Bank Of Mum and Dad this just a unobtainable dream unless they happen to be in an insanely well paid job."I don't know I stated work at 14 working evenings and weekends in a Happy eater. When I stated my apprenticeship in 1984 on a salary of £27.50 A week. I saved did not have a fast or new car. Went to the pub after work twice a week. But worked about 80h a week + traveling buy bike. If someone dose 80 hours at £12 that like £50k per year. 5 years they should have half as a deposit. £125k in some areas that will buy you a flat. I get in lots it won't | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣 I was told by my father at 18 you are an adult so you will be moving out Aw . Think I was about 22. It was easier then though. Bought a lovely new flat for 52K! 🤣
This. I moved out at 18 and bought for exactly the same amount at 24. My son is that age, still at home and can only dream of moving in with is gf when a room in a shared house rents for north of £1k a month where we live
Our kids are screwed aren’t they? - to gain independence they have to give up any notion of saving money. Being able to buy a house? Without assistance from Bank Of Mum and Dad this just a unobtainable dream unless they happen to be in an insanely well paid job.
I don't know I stated work at 14 working evenings and weekends in a Happy eater.
When I stated my apprenticeship in 1984 on a salary of £27.50 A week.
I saved did not have a fast or new car. Went to the pub after work twice a week. But worked about 80h a week + traveling buy bike.
If someone dose 80 hours at £12 that like £50k per year. 5 years they should have half as a deposit. £125k in some areas that will buy you a flat. I get in lots it won't
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"I think it's hard when you're young now. I was 17 when I moved out that wasn't it of choice but had meant I've been fiercely independent. Now though I think it's tough yes, however there's also an element of choice. I work with many coupled up late 20/ 30ish yr olds who live (as couples with a set of parents). Their income is large but so is their parental home. They don't want to compromise on this so would rather stay at home than buy/ rent somewhere smaller and have to give up the lifestyle they are accustomed to. I bought a place in London 2.5 years ago on my own. It took a lot of going without. It can be done but it was pretty miserable. It's a case of weighing up priorities and what you're prepared to compromise on... " Well done you.. I mean that it's hard but posable. Congrats 👏 | |||
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"I moved out at 18 and never lived with anyone since . Bought my first house at 19 a wreck I did up and sold for a profit before buying another . Very different for the youth of today but then the youth of today are very different on the whole to what we back in the 80s " And so are property prices.  | |||
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"I moved out when I was 18 from a Cumbria backwater ( beautiful as it is / was) to San Francisco Quite a culture shock but loved it for a year Moving out was so so Important for me on so many levels If you can - do " That is good you liked it, yes, if you can do it too | |||
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"I moved out at 18 and never lived with anyone since . Bought my first house at 19 a wreck I did up and sold for a profit before buying another . Very different for the youth of today but then the youth of today are very different on the whole to what we back in the 80s And so are property prices. "My parents lived on a single salary in central London in the mid 80s (not a banker, lawyer, rock star, oligarch etc) 😭😭😭 | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣 I was told by my father at 18 you are an adult so you will be moving out Aw . Think I was about 22. It was easier then though. Bought a lovely new flat for 52K! 🤣
This. I moved out at 18 and bought for exactly the same amount at 24. My son is that age, still at home and can only dream of moving in with is gf when a room in a shared house rents for north of £1k a month where we live
Our kids are screwed aren’t they? - to gain independence they have to give up any notion of saving money. Being able to buy a house? Without assistance from Bank Of Mum and Dad this just a unobtainable dream unless they happen to be in an insanely well paid job.
I don't know I stated work at 14 working evenings and weekends in a Happy eater.
When I stated my apprenticeship in 1984 on a salary of £27.50 A week.
I saved did not have a fast or new car. Went to the pub after work twice a week. But worked about 80h a week + traveling buy bike.
If someone dose 80 hours at £12 that like £50k per year. 5 years they should have half as a deposit. £125k in some areas that will buy you a flat. I get in lots it won't
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣 I was told by my father at 18 you are an adult so you will be moving out Aw . Think I was about 22. It was easier then though. Bought a lovely new flat for 52K! 🤣
This. I moved out at 18 and bought for exactly the same amount at 24. My son is that age, still at home and can only dream of moving in with is gf when a room in a shared house rents for north of £1k a month where we live
Our kids are screwed aren’t they? - to gain independence they have to give up any notion of saving money. Being able to buy a house? Without assistance from Bank Of Mum and Dad this just a unobtainable dream unless they happen to be in an insanely well paid job.
I don't know I stated work at 14 working evenings and weekends in a Happy eater.
When I stated my apprenticeship in 1984 on a salary of £27.50 A week.
I saved did not have a fast or new car. Went to the pub after work twice a week. But worked about 80h a week + traveling buy bike.
If someone dose 80 hours at £12 that like £50k per year. 5 years they should have half as a deposit. £125k in some areas that will buy you a flat. I get in lots it won't
I don't think it's realistic for folk to do an 80 hour week for 5 years "No, I did a 60 hrs a week on a good 10k less than that and saved £65k over 4 years. I was told my deposit was "reasonable" which was a bit disheartening to be honest but I could buy with that at least. | |||
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"Can someone tell my kids this 🤣" Lol agree and mine there 27 24 19 all live at home got it to cushy I guess | |||
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" If someone dose 80 hours at £12 that like £50k per year. 5 years they should have half as a deposit." 80 hours per week for 5 years. Living the dream. | |||
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" If someone dose 80 hours at £12 that like £50k per year. 5 years they should have half as a deposit. 80 hours per week for 5 years. Living the dream. " Also the kinds of jobs that pay that kind of money tend to be part time and rotating schedule. How do you get to 80 hours?! | |||
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"I think the adventure of moving out at 20 sounds great but as many have mentioned, it is not realistic with today’s cost of living. I moved out at 17 and it was the best decision for me. " Hi feltcute, yes, it is an adventure. I see 17 is a good age, it was good it was the best best decision for you too | |||
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"I think there is a moral responsibility, a social contract if you like, that we have an economic system which facilitates people being able to live independently from the age of adulthood. In fact I would go so far as to say that our failure to do so leaves many groups of people, including young people, at an unethical disadvantage in terms of equality of opportunity and heightened exposure to the risks of abuse and exploitation. I think that needs rectifying for the question of when it's a good age to live independently. Rights are worthless without the means to facilitate them." Agreed | |||
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"I lived in a shared flat in around 1975. One of the girls had no idea how to look after herself, her mother used to visit daily to cook for her "Hi nicecouple. I see, living in a shared flat is also good too | |||
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"Moved out at 19 to go to university, and came back to my hometown after 27 years." Hi morphia. I see 19, is a good age and how you came back to your hometown after 27 years too | |||
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"I lived in a shared flat in around 1975. One of the girls had no idea how to look after herself, her mother used to visit daily to cook for her Hi nicecouple. I see, living in a shared flat is also good too "It prevents loneliness but makes you realise just how disgusting other people's habits are. | |||
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"I lived in a shared flat in around 1975. One of the girls had no idea how to look after herself, her mother used to visit daily to cook for her Hi nicecouple. I see, living in a shared flat is also good too
It prevents loneliness but makes you realise just how disgusting other people's habits are. "Yes, it also prevents loneliness, which is good too | |||
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"Unless your parents are well off, or your grandparents set up a trust fund for you, or you inherit a house etc there's little chance of young people in London moving out at 20. Most don't leave school until they're 18/19. One year of working isn't enough to put down a deposit on a mortgage or rental. " That's why I said 5 years of starting full time employment. Not an age uni might be age 18 to 22 so that would be 27/28 | |||
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