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"Why, there’s big bucks in it to get your child statemented " what do you mean? | |||
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"Why, there’s big bucks in it to get your child statemented " We had our son statemented around 2yrs old he's now 25 and I can guarantee you it was not to make money🤬 | |||
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"Why, there’s big bucks in it to get your child statemented " Ignorance is bliss. | |||
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"Why, there’s big bucks in it to get your child statemented Ignorance is bliss." this is why I've asked what they mean... as I'm hoping it's not someone thinking getting a statement equals a pay off. Besides as a parent of a now adult with additional needs.... its not a great amount and I'd rather have never have needed the extra money and my daughter not have the conditions she has | |||
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"No good comes of this thread - very bizarre choice of a post for a lazy Sunday morning " This is one of the problems with the left, it’s a form of fascism to attack, cancel and shutdown any form of discussion that might challenge the ideology | |||
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"No good comes of this thread - very bizarre choice of a post for a lazy Sunday morning This is one of the problems with the left, it’s a form of fascism to attack, cancel and shutdown any form of discussion that might challenge the ideology " To be fair - I am not left wing and I do agree with your statement but I also agree with the first statement. It is a pretty guaranteed observation that this going to descend into a shit storm. I will be watching it all with amusement and popcorn for breakfast. | |||
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"It's great that children are getting identified, increasing their potential for getting the education and care that they deserve. It's just a pity that state services have been underfunded for so long "and they still cut services.. especially for adults with additional needs. If my daughter wants to attend her local college for instance. As she is now over 25... she has to pay £50 a day.. for a minimum of 2 days a week.. paid for a term up front. So sadly she now only attends a arts and crafts session once a week and a cooking class .. there is a disco once a month too | |||
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"If anybody knew the whole process of getting your child diagnosed then they wouldn’t be so flippant. It takes Years. You have to fight to be heard, for your child to be assessed, to get them the help they need. Making money out of the whole process, that in our case took 7 years (waiting lists, the hoops you have to jump through, multiple assessment meetings, speech and language sessions for 2 years, and that was BEFORE a diagnosis) was the last thing on my mind. " Yep. Took the entire period of primary school for my niece. Good that she's now thriving at secondary school and there's no financial benefit whatsoever to my brother, just the knowledge that his child's needs are being met. | |||
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"No good comes of this thread - very bizarre choice of a post for a lazy Sunday morning " Why do you think no good can come from discussing increasing numbers of kids with special needs? Seems a bizarre response. | |||
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"I am still on the pathway trying to fight for my child. It’s something I have been trying to push for the whole of the time they were at primary school. My objective is to get the support needed day to day and to enable them to have the extra time in assessments and exams. No monetary incentive, just that they have a fair crack of the whip in a system that allows them to coast under the radar and struggle because they are not “severe” enough and manage to regulate (and mask) themself in the school environment. " I feel your pain. Have had the exact same battle ever since my little one started at Nursery, andnisnnownheading speedily towards year 3. | |||
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"I am still on the pathway trying to fight for my child. It’s something I have been trying to push for the whole of the time they were at primary school. My objective is to get the support needed day to day and to enable them to have the extra time in assessments and exams. No monetary incentive, just that they have a fair crack of the whip in a system that allows them to coast under the radar and struggle because they are not “severe” enough and manage to regulate (and mask) themself in the school environment. I feel your pain. Have had the exact same battle ever since my little one started at Nursery, andnisnnownheading speedily towards year 3. " It’s exhausting! I was fobbed off so much … they are just immature (youngest in the class), you are just comparing them to their older sibling (very academic). They only started to take me seriously in Year 4 so don’t give up! | |||
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"I am still on the pathway trying to fight for my child. It’s something I have been trying to push for the whole of the time they were at primary school. My objective is to get the support needed day to day and to enable them to have the extra time in assessments and exams. No monetary incentive, just that they have a fair crack of the whip in a system that allows them to coast under the radar and struggle because they are not “severe” enough and manage to regulate (and mask) themself in the school environment. I feel your pain. Have had the exact same battle ever since my little one started at Nursery, andnisnnownheading speedily towards year 3. It’s exhausting! I was fobbed off so much … they are just immature (youngest in the class), you are just comparing them to their older sibling (very academic). They only started to take me seriously in Year 4 so don’t give up! " As a parent with a disabled son, I think I'd have preferred him to be able to the same things his peers are doing, rather than the years of hurt, self harm and therapy he's endured, which includes speech (Pecs, macaton etc.). Oh, money? You mean what he's due for his disablement, in a socially adept, rich, country? Well, he's hardly rolling in it, and his condition is for the rest of his life. No chances of paid work, promotion etc. And what happens when me or his mum die? Yep, that money will have to pay for his care and accommodation. It's very lazy to make out it's a money making opportunity. Don't criticise until you've walked in my, and my sons shoes. | |||
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"No good comes of this thread - very bizarre choice of a post for a lazy Sunday morning This is one of the problems with the left, it’s a form of fascism to attack, cancel and shutdown any form of discussion that might challenge the ideology " It's across the board, it's not a political condition for the children nor is it anything to do with how their parents vote.. The difficulties are what they are regardless.. | |||
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"I think a lot of this is as a result of better research into neuro diversity and health in general. There is more awareness of ND, therefore more assesments and diagnoses. My elder is undiagnosed ASD, because she didn't fit the criteria to be assessed. She experiences ASD burnout, she has severe anxiety and depression, but masked in education. She's coping well at the moment and is successfully completing her uni course. My younger also does not fit the criteria to be assessed. She also masks. I'm exploring other avenues to find out what is underlying for her. It may not be ASD, but there is definitely something. " Very very similar here. My youngest left school early because of the pressure. She really masked it well at school and bottled it up and saved it until she got home, then unleashed hell. The irony that because she left school she couldn't get assessed for autism in the school pathway (after a long wait) isn't lost on me. Thanks to a very caring pupil support teacher he has managed to put his foot in the door and broker an assessment. I agree with someone's comment above, that the education system (certainly the school mine went to) was just interested in grades for the mainstream and others are invested in less. It seems to be a constant battle to be heard. | |||
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"I think a lot of this is as a result of better research into neuro diversity and health in general. There is more awareness of ND, therefore more assesments and diagnoses. My elder is undiagnosed ASD, because she didn't fit the criteria to be assessed. She experiences ASD burnout, she has severe anxiety and depression, but masked in education. She's coping well at the moment and is successfully completing her uni course. My younger also does not fit the criteria to be assessed. She also masks. I'm exploring other avenues to find out what is underlying for her. It may not be ASD, but there is definitely something. Very very similar here. My youngest left school early because of the pressure. She really masked it well at school and bottled it up and saved it until she got home, then unleashed hell. The irony that because she left school she couldn't get assessed for autism in the school pathway (after a long wait) isn't lost on me. Thanks to a very caring pupil support teacher he has managed to put his foot in the door and broker an assessment. I agree with someone's comment above, that the education system (certainly the school mine went to) was just interested in grades for the mainstream and others are invested in less. It seems to be a constant battle to be heard. " My elder daughter and I had a very painful journey. I'm hoping it will be easier to be assessed now she's an adult. From that experience I know the education pathway isn't suitable for my younger, and I also want to prevent, as far as possible, the co-morbid presentations by getting her the right support early enough. | |||
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"Do you think the increase is due to changes in the educators, the children, the parents/guardians, environment, culture? It's a very significant increase, and the trouble is early education is so significant to how the rest of our lives pan out. Including emotional well being and issues. " There are 3 reasons The scope has widened for autism More awareness & assessments done by doctors, schools Higher survival rates of premature babies | |||
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"Do you think the increase is due to changes in the educators, the children, the parents/guardians, environment, culture? It's a very significant increase, and the trouble is early education is so significant to how the rest of our lives pan out. Including emotional well being and issues. " Maybe a little bit of everything. Going to school, I only remember only one or 2 kids with disabilities. Maybe most of the severely disabled kids were kept from school? The 'slower' kids maybe (nowadays) would be diagnosed with having special needs. There is probably and unfortunately a sub culture who will use it to claim benefits and I also think that maybe all the shit that is getting pumped into the air and in our food must have a side effect on human development. Maybe? | |||
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"Do you think the increase is due to changes in the educators, the children, the parents/guardians, environment, culture? It's a very significant increase, and the trouble is early education is so significant to how the rest of our lives pan out. Including emotional well being and issues. " Mainly changes in recognition of the nature of additional needs and disabilities. But also the Govian curriculum we are saddled with is inflexible, narrow and does not allow for sufficient tailoring. The methods of assessment are too far weighted towards a single or few formal, high stakes examination(s). | |||
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"To put it bluntly. If you're a square peg you will be hammered in to a round hole unless you insist that square holes are dug. " Correct. | |||
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"To put it bluntly. If you're a square peg you will be hammered in to a round hole unless you insist that square holes are dug. Correct. " One day in the far, far distant future the square holes will be dug alongside the round ones, octagonal, diamond etc etc | |||
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"To put it bluntly. If you're a square peg you will be hammered in to a round hole unless you insist that square holes are dug. Correct. One day in the far, far distant future the square holes will be dug alongside the round ones, octagonal, diamond etc etc " This is the key. There is too much focus - by all of society -on academic prowess at school. We underplay vocational capabilities. We underplay creative capabilities. We underplay almost every capability that isn’t focused on uni as an end goal and we need to expand that. Schooling is basically broken and it is not really fit for purpose for a lot of people - SEN or otherwise. | |||
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"Do you think the increase is due to changes in the educators, the children, the parents/guardians, environment, culture? It's a very significant increase, and the trouble is early education is so significant to how the rest of our lives pan out. Including emotional well being and issues. Maybe a little bit of everything. Going to school, I only remember only one or 2 kids with disabilities. Maybe most of the severely disabled kids were kept from school? The 'slower' kids maybe (nowadays) would be diagnosed with having special needs. There is probably and unfortunately a sub culture who will use it to claim benefits and I also think that maybe all the shit that is getting pumped into the air and in our food must have a side effect on human development. Maybe? " Special needs children when I was at school were sent to the behaviour unit next to the main school. Children like my severely disabled sister were given places at Special schools or kept at home. There were no LSAs or teaching assistants back then, who were there to assist children with special needs. Autistic children were labelled stupid or backwards and kept at home or punished for bad behaviour. | |||
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"Do you think the increase is due to changes in the educators, the children, the parents/guardians, environment, culture? It's a very significant increase, and the trouble is early education is so significant to how the rest of our lives pan out. Including emotional well being and issues. Mainly changes in recognition of the nature of additional needs and disabilities. But also the Govian curriculum we are saddled with is inflexible, narrow and does not allow for sufficient tailoring. The methods of assessment are too far weighted towards a single or few formal, high stakes examination(s)." True they tried their best to kill off vocational education and what’s left only really works as a bunch of entry tests to academia. But if you look in other countries , especially s and se Asia they have a huge focus on results and tests , from age 5 , score below 90% and you are made to feel like a failure , only the top scores all you go into any kind of profession, even nurses need to score extremely high 95% then study abroad. It’s much more pressured than the uk but the kids seem to cope much better with far less support | |||
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"For employment reasons, my family moved frequently when I was young. So, between the ages of 5 and 18, I attended nine different schools. Throughout those years, I knew only three children who appeared to have what would now be called special needs. Two were epileptic, the other was dyslexic. Bear in mind that then, as now, anyone 'different' would stand out - I would remember. I do recall a handful of stereotypical bullies at three of the schools. I don't remember any other children with behavioural issues. This has only just struck me, because I've not previously thought about this. I'm now wondering what - nature, nurture, both - has brought about this massive change. It defies probability that I could always have attended schools with atypical populations. It seems even less likely to be simply better identification and diagnosis these days. Bizarre. " The main change, I believe, is the closure of special schools, so children with learning disabilities go to main stream, and children not being kept at home for being 'simple'. Population growth and sizes of schools may have something to do with numbers, too. There certainly were children born with disabilities when I was a child. I know of many in my area alone. My sister being one of them, three of my friends having disabled siblings, and a neighbour having a disabled child. Also, more disabled babies surviving after birth, possibly? | |||
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"Do you think the increase is due to changes in the educators, the children, the parents/guardians, environment, culture? It's a very significant increase, and the trouble is early education is so significant to how the rest of our lives pan out. Including emotional well being and issues. Mainly changes in recognition of the nature of additional needs and disabilities. But also the Govian curriculum we are saddled with is inflexible, narrow and does not allow for sufficient tailoring. The methods of assessment are too far weighted towards a single or few formal, high stakes examination(s). True they tried their best to kill off vocational education and what’s left only really works as a bunch of entry tests to academia. But if you look in other countries , especially s and se Asia they have a huge focus on results and tests , from age 5 , score below 90% and you are made to feel like a failure , only the top scores all you go into any kind of profession, even nurses need to score extremely high 95% then study abroad. It’s much more pressured than the uk but the kids seem to cope much better with far less support " The kids do not cope better. I see the "failures" from these systems in my classroom and many of them are psychologically harmed. They are sent thousands of miles from home to be educated here instead and people like me pick up the pieces of those who "failed gaokao and other repressive systems of measuring success. Go and read about the crisis in young people's employment, mental health etc. in China, South Korea etc. | |||
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"For employment reasons, my family moved frequently when I was young. So, between the ages of 5 and 18, I attended nine different schools. Throughout those years, I knew only three children who appeared to have what would now be called special needs. Two were epileptic, the other was dyslexic. Bear in mind that then, as now, anyone 'different' would stand out - I would remember. I do recall a handful of stereotypical bullies at three of the schools. I don't remember any other children with behavioural issues. This has only just struck me, because I've not previously thought about this. I'm now wondering what - nature, nurture, both - has brought about this massive change. It defies probability that I could always have attended schools with atypical populations. It seems even less likely to be simply better identification and diagnosis these days. Bizarre. " They were there you either didn't see them or they were kept out of sight | |||
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"To put it bluntly. If you're a square peg you will be hammered in to a round hole unless you insist that square holes are dug. Correct. One day in the far, far distant future the square holes will be dug alongside the round ones, octagonal, diamond etc etc " One day hopefully they'll be given some tools they can use and say dig your own hole.... | |||
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"What do people think the financial receipts are for having a child with a disability?" I wonder this frequently. By the time a child is accepted for an assessment, receives a diagnosis, gets statemented, and is assessed for DLA, many years of battles have often passed. In many cases, a parent has had to reduce their working hours or give up work entirely to care for their child properly. No benefits can truly make up for the financial shortfall caused by those lost years of income. | |||
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"What do people think the financial receipts are for having a child with a disability? I wonder this frequently. By the time a child is accepted for an assessment, receives a diagnosis, gets statemented, and is assessed for DLA, many years of battles have often passed. In many cases, a parent has had to reduce their working hours or give up work entirely to care for their child properly. No benefits can truly make up for the financial shortfall caused by those lost years of income." DLA is so paltry though. And even if receiving the highest rate for both components, it's no substitute for parents being able to actually earn a FT wage. To get highest rate for everything, it's very likely families would have external care costs or certain at least one parent unable to work due to the needs of the child. Disabled Facilities Grants are max £30k and you only get fully funded if you aren't working. If you need to make huge structural changes to accommodate a disabled child, it's going to cost far more than £30k and you only get a DFG if a council occupational therapist has assessed the family as requiring it. It cannot be faked or scrounged. The reason I don't have an accessible bathroom is because we don't qualify for any DFG because we both work. | |||
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