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"What channel is the program on please as we'd like to watch it? Marriage is less common amongst younger couples now, unless we're mistaken?" It wasnt a program on its own, it was a short program on the news talking about it, yes, you are right there. I also agree that marriage is less common with younger couples now too. | |||
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"Personally I wonder if it's just more about values, currently everyone is so self obsessed, all about my rights, what I'm entitled to, where as before there were stronger senses of community and everyone helping each other out. With the Internet that sense of community and in essence social skills too are diminished. " Hi hisandhers, yes. I also think it is just more about values too | |||
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"It’s a throwaway society, that includes marriage. The institution of marriage is not viewed with the same reverence as it once was, it is entered into lightly, with the knowledge you can bailout if you don’t like it. " But the institution of marriage is outmoded. It was a construct in western socities for protecting the bloodline and chattels at a time when people died much earlier and women's happiness and sexual gratification were inconsequential. Fortunately in our society at least things have moved on. It is unrealistic to think that - in most cases - you can meet someone in your 20s and still be friends, lovers and soul mates in your 80s. | |||
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"It’s a throwaway society, that includes marriage. The institution of marriage is not viewed with the same reverence as it once was, it is entered into lightly, with the knowledge you can bailout if you don’t like it. " Which I think is a good thing. It's only a ceremony with a signed document that gives you marital rights. It doesn't have to be forever if someone isn't happy. My ex turned into a beast once we were married and my last child was born (the boy he wanted). If I'd known how terrible my life was going to be I'd have turned a different corner the day I met him. Or, left the hospital with my son and headed to a women's refuge. | |||
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"I think half of it could be survivor bias though, whilst you do see a lot more older couples still in a marriage, I know plenty that have ended in divorce. I think more older couples, the finances are more tightly tided, they are more likely to have children and property is difficult to split evenly." I know of many older women who suffered at the hands of their husbands. Back then it wasn't easy to get away from an abuser. The police would take them away sometimes, but the law wasn't much help. We now have different kinds of abuse in law, including financial and emotional. Men wouldn't go to the police back then, or leave for whatever reason. Some did abandon their families, but most plodded on in awful relationships, because the help wasn't there. | |||
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"It’s a throwaway society, that includes marriage. The institution of marriage is not viewed with the same reverence as it once was, it is entered into lightly, with the knowledge you can bailout if you don’t like it. But the institution of marriage is outmoded. It was a construct in western socities for protecting the bloodline and chattels at a time when people died much earlier and women's happiness and sexual gratification were inconsequential. Fortunately in our society at least things have moved on. It is unrealistic to think that - in most cases - you can meet someone in your 20s and still be friends, lovers and soul mates in your 80s." I’m not advocating marriage in any of its forms, I would agree that it is becoming more and more irrelevant, I have never had any intentions of marriage myself, I was putting forward an opinion relevant to the question asked. | |||
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"I don’t think I really agree with the points, not to say I don’t understand them. I think, now, there’s less stigma around divorce. There’s a wider picture of divorce actually probably being better for all parties involved. Kids, your partner and yourself. There’s more to it that just values and morals but health and happiness, too. " Kids definitely suffer when parents divorce | |||
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"Kids definitely suffer when parents divorce" Kids definitely suffer being raised in a home where their perception of a functioning adult relationship is two people who don't love or respect each other too 💜 | |||
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"I don’t think I really agree with the points, not to say I don’t understand them. I think, now, there’s less stigma around divorce. There’s a wider picture of divorce actually probably being better for all parties involved. Kids, your partner and yourself. There’s more to it that just values and morals but health and happiness, too. Kids definitely suffer when parents divorce" Kids also suffer growing up not knowing what a happy relationship looks like when the parents stay together out of obligation rather than love. Relationship breakdowns are hard and messy but walking away doesn’t mean it’s worse for the kids, a lot of the times it’s the kinder decision | |||
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"I don’t think I really agree with the points, not to say I don’t understand them. I think, now, there’s less stigma around divorce. There’s a wider picture of divorce actually probably being better for all parties involved. Kids, your partner and yourself. There’s more to it that just values and morals but health and happiness, too. Kids definitely suffer when parents divorce" They suffer either way. Divorce is a much healthier environment than an unhappy home long term though. Yeah it's shit parents split up, it's much better than knowing one or both parents were extremely unhappy, and went through that unhappiness using myself as the excuse. The guilt associated with that is so much worse than any kind of stigma of divorced parents. The more parents that realise that the better. Don't use your kids as an excuse for something you are afraid of doing but should have done. | |||
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"Youngsters are brought up with the attitude of we live in a throw away society." So long as they don't see their potential for happiness as something to throw away for the sake of a marriage that isn't working for them it's all good 💜 | |||
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"Youngsters are brought up with the attitude of we live in a throw away society." Or they have seen what their parents and grandparents (you) mistakes were and thought fuck that nonsense, I'll take my chances doing it my own way. | |||
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"What age group are we talking about? " I am not sure, but I would think in their 30s and over 60s range too | |||
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