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"When you say attack dont think this was the run of the mill d*unk idiot(which is also fucking awful) i think this was a stabbing.. " yes it says stabbed but not with a knife like it makes a difference. | |||
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"A life ban for NHS treatment should apply to anyone who attacks a hospital/ambulance worker." totally agree no excuse drugs alcohol no excuses. | |||
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"It's hard to pass comment without knowing the circumstances If we take drink and drugs out of the equation, there are still certain conditions and mindsets that may lead to such attacks I try not to jump to conclusions or bandwagon with the media I don't think there is a one size fits all solution " why take drugs and alcohol out they cannot be a excuse to violence. | |||
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"It's hard to pass comment without knowing the circumstances If we take drink and drugs out of the equation, there are still certain conditions and mindsets that may lead to such attacks I try not to jump to conclusions or bandwagon with the media I don't think there is a one size fits all solution why take drugs and alcohol out they cannot be a excuse to violence." I think you misunderstand my words I am not excusing drugs or alcohol I am saying I can't make a reasoned response to your thread because we don't know if either were involved on this occasion If someone was having a manic attack or a psychosis, then a radical response is not particularly the long term answer | |||
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"It's hard to pass comment without knowing the circumstances If we take drink and drugs out of the equation, there are still certain conditions and mindsets that may lead to such attacks I try not to jump to conclusions or bandwagon with the media I don't think there is a one size fits all solution why take drugs and alcohol out they cannot be a excuse to violence. I think you misunderstand my words I am not excusing drugs or alcohol I am saying I can't make a reasoned response to your thread because we don't know if either were involved on this occasion If someone was having a manic attack or a psychosis, then a radical response is not particularly the long term answer" I understand where your coming from as most will be the same I'm more there isn't a excuse if they are that bad then they shouldn't be aloud to be out and about and if he or she is under supervision then those supervisors should be accountable as well so often excuse after excuse but let's see. | |||
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"It's hard to pass comment without knowing the circumstances If we take drink and drugs out of the equation, there are still certain conditions and mindsets that may lead to such attacks I try not to jump to conclusions or bandwagon with the media I don't think there is a one size fits all solution why take drugs and alcohol out they cannot be a excuse to violence. I think you misunderstand my words I am not excusing drugs or alcohol I am saying I can't make a reasoned response to your thread because we don't know if either were involved on this occasion If someone was having a manic attack or a psychosis, then a radical response is not particularly the long term answerI understand where your coming from as most will be the same I'm more there isn't a excuse if they are that bad then they shouldn't be aloud to be out and about and if he or she is under supervision then those supervisors should be accountable as well so often excuse after excuse but let's see." The care sector is on its knees at various levels The correct support just isn't there for a lot of people So there is a lot of people out in the community that shouldn't be I don't know what the solution is It would be easy to make this thread political, but I don't think a group of pontificating swingers will resolve anything overnight --- What I will offer is an example A 90 year old lady, a former nurse Final stage diabetes Dementia Frequent water infections, which when mixed with the dementia, causes bouts of extreme and violent outbursts Currently in an EPH on a respite basis You have a GP in the home saying she is 'competent' and can go home You have district nurses saying she can't look after herself You have a social worker who dances the line, but leans more towards the GP End result, she bounces around the system and regularly ends up in A&E (The lady in question is my former mother in law) --- How do you balance that with someone who gets nasty in drink or who pops one pill too many in pursuit of 'a good night out'? You can't There isn't one single solution or any easy ones Any solution isn't simple and could never happen overnight - any new laws would simply be challenged and would get bogged down in litigation for years That said, I agree in that, as a society, we should not sit back and do nothing | |||
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