FabSwingers.com forum: Do you tip?

By *elix Sighted OP Man
3 weeks ago

Cloud 8

Waiters, cleaners, hairdressers, servants, gardeners etc etc; do you tip them? If so, do you have a set amount or percentage? Or do you very generously round up a £19.49 bill to a “Keep the change pal” £20?

No judgement if you don’t 😊

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By *eesside AnubisMan
3 weeks ago

North East

Depends on the service I get if they are a miserable sod then I don't.

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By *eroLondonMan
3 weeks ago

Mayfair

Waiters and serving staff, yes. 12% or just accept the service charge that's already been added to the bill.

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By *pankingNorfolkCouple
3 weeks ago

Norwichish

Dislike service charges that add on 12.5% in restaurants. Would rather tip the service. But I’m becoming less inclined to tip these days in restaurants as it’s very expensive to eat out. And so many are asking you to use the app to order and pay hardly seems like the service is there.

Barbers etc I tend to round up to what I am carrying in notes. Think it’s less of a thing these days as they always seem surprised, compared to black cab drivers where it was always a long time for the change to make an appearance it was easier just to say make it whatever the nearest note was.

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
3 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

Always tip my hairdresser and staff if we eat out

My garage and the vets get the obligatory chocolate and biscuits at Christmas

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
3 weeks ago

Redditch

Taxi and barber round up if i like them. Tho now its uber so no.

I only ever tip cash

I only tip 10% in restaurants and only of if impressed - normally higher end places add it automatically at 12.5% and that annoys me because then its now a tip!!!

Tips should be cash to the hard working young person waiting tables.

Tipping really originates as a way of not having to pay sl***s a wage after they were freed. American tippig culture is awful.

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By *viatrixWoman
3 weeks ago

Redhill

I always tip. Unless service has been terrible.

I just can’t deal with people who don’t.

Sorry.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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3 weeks ago

East Sussex

We tip in restaurants and hotels *if* the service is good.

I don't tip my hairdresser, she has a lifestyle I can only dream of. I do tip the apprentice if she washes my hair.

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By *amie HantsWoman
3 weeks ago

Atlantis

I pay card everywhere so ‘keep the change’ isn’t really a thing for me. Except my nail lady who prefers cash. I round up for her.

I’ll pay the service charge that’s added on at restaurants.

My hairdresser- absolutely not. They charge a fortune. I think employers need to subsidise low wages and not expect their customers to.

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By (user no longer on site)
3 weeks ago

I've always seen a tip as paying extra for getting extra... If the service is okay then they're just doing their job and they get paid to do that. If they go over and above to make the experience exceptional then they get extra rewards.

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By (user no longer on site)
3 weeks ago

I tip food delivery drivers (depending on distance from my house) and my barber, that's about it. I don't really go to places where tipping is a thing. I'm not much of a restaurant person these days.

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By *eoBloomsMan
3 weeks ago

Springfield

I find instead of cash most service sector workers appreciate firm advice on how they can improve their performance in the future. Its another kind of 'tip' if you like.

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By *elix Sighted OP Man
3 weeks ago

Cloud 8

"I've always seen a tip as paying extra for getting extra... If the service is okay then they're just doing their job and they get paid to do that. If they go over and above to make the experience exceptional then they get extra rewards."

I’m with you on this. I have a pretty harsh attitude towards tipping and most don’t like it. My view is, I went to a restaurant and the only possible way the chef could know what to cook me is if the waiter asks me and then tells them what I said. That’s half their job. And they obviously don’t expect me to collect my own meal from the kitchen, so they need to bring it to me. That’s the second half of their job complete. If that’s all they do then it’s not tip-worthy in my view. Like I say, harsh and I will get criticism for it.

Same with the hairdresser. If all you did was cut my hair how I asked for it, that’s the bare minimum you are expected to do. Not tip-worthy.

If the experience is somehow notably better for their personal involvement, I will gladly tip. I won’t be guilted into supplementing poor wages because it’s excused by society.

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By *rSircumsizedMan
3 weeks ago

Risca

Nope. People are doing a job they've chosen to do. You tip a taxi driver, do you tip the bus driver? Doubt it. You tip waiters in a restaurant, do you tip the workers in McDonalds? Doubt it. Who decides which public service workers get a tip and which don't? Just my opinion.

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By *lynJMan
3 weeks ago

Morden

I dislike the new habit in pubs when you pay by card. The card machine is presented to you with a "tip" screen inviting you to select a level of tip to add. The "no tip" button is usually really small and difficult to see.

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By *ose-tinted GlassesMan
2 weeks ago

Glasgow / London

"Who decides which public service workers get a tip and which don't? Just my opinion."

You decide. That’s how tipping works.

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By *nomeforyourboneWoman
2 weeks ago

Birmingham

I do if they have provided good service or gone out their way to be overly helpful.. I don't tip in general though.

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By *ffervescentMan
2 weeks ago

winfrith

yes if they are real people who talk and make you feel they aren't my servant.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Central

I tip a reasonable amount, when service is good. I dislike service charges though. Just tipped in a bar tonight, as they were busy and he made the time to chat and be friendly, a few minutes ago. The bar before gave me apple juice after asking for pineapple juice

. Then claimed they had none

. Manager said they had tons. No tip for bar staff when I typically give £1. I often don't tip much to taxi drivers, just rounding. Hairdresser always a few pounds. I have no servants

yet

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By *hirleyMan
2 weeks ago

somewhere

I'll tip when I receive good service

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By *orthernJayMan
2 weeks ago

Oxford

"If the experience is somehow notably better for their personal involvement, I will gladly tip. I won’t be guilted into supplementing poor wages because it’s excused by society."

^ Absolutely agree with Felix ^

Travelling extensively and globally, tipping in Asia is virtually none existent, not expected, implicitly nor explicitly; service charges are utilised sporadically but only in (already) expensive restaurants and themed bars.

USA tipping has been out of hand for years, it’s no longer subsidising food servers and handlers wages, it’s increasing owners/chain profits.

Canada is the worst for explicit tipping (in my experience), everywhere ‘demands’ +20% as standard on card readers, with some machines you have to scroll down the screen to find the ‘no tip’ button, the UAE is almost on par although everything is overpriced before you receive any service; good, bad or indifferent.

Canadian Starbucks have a 25% auto tip unless you specifically ask for it be removed or lowered, I’ve not seen such ‘in your face’ demand anywhere else; yet!

UK post Covid seems to have embedded service charges, almost every independent restaurant does so and I’ve noticed more chain restaurants doing the same; it’s absolutely covert incremental price increases to keep menu prices visually lower and inflate profit; the industry argues it’s a necessity given ingredient, utility and staffing cost inflation.

All service charge actually does is encourage poor/average service and bad vibes when you ask, even as politely as possible, for such charges to be removed. I had one young server in London a few weeks ago aggressively demanding “why?”……the bill was almost £400 with a whopping 17.5% service charge in small print at the bottom; she barely spoke whilst doing the absolute bare minimum to service the table and that’s the feedback she was given!

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By *orthern StarsCouple
2 weeks ago

Durham

We always tip in restaurants but we don't like it when they automatically add on a service charge.

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By *hief_Of_AlwaysMan
2 weeks ago

The last house on the left…

WE ARE BRITISH! WE DO NOT TIP, unless the service is exceptional.

Just came back from Florida late last year. Eating out cost me a bloody fortune because of their tipping culture

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By *ndrew CareyMan
2 weeks ago

Peterborough, Cambridgeshire & Lincolnshire

Depends on the service and situation.

I remember going to a restaurant in a village in Germany and the waiter spent time explaining the menu and offers/options as everything was in German. He could tell I was confused.

Made recommendations and was superb. After the meal, I gave him a tip that cost more than the meal and drink I had.

I usually tip people with a good attitude.

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By *asycouple1971Couple
2 weeks ago

midlands

Nope unless it's already added to the bill.

Everything is expensive as it is.

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By *ensualtongue2023Man
2 weeks ago

furnace

Notice nobody mentioned tradesmen and women ?

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By *obilebottomMan
2 weeks ago

All over

I always tipped something whether the bit of change or something like a 10% at a restaurant since I was quote young and earning if I had nothing to complain about. I always gave it to the waitress or waiter that served it. Most family and friends did the same. I like and expect warm and welcoming service (not something we are good at in this country and getting worse). I am increasingly becoming more vocal if service is not good and not just in restaurants, pubs and cafes but in shops too. We are creating a culture of accepting bad service otherwise for everyone. Consequently I am getting annoyed when they include the service without asking. How dare you, so to speak. Petsonally I think it should be illegal to do so. If I had good service and was not more than 12% or so, I will go with it though I always ask tbe waitet if all tips go to them. If is more than that or have issue of how tips are shared or service has not been good, I will now challenge. As for card machines now trying to add a tip even somewhere like WHSmith is just appaling and I said should not be allowed and we should all be complaining about that. So to summarise I always tipped to reflect the service I got and will continue to do so but challenge them if I believe it's deserved.

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By *mmaleiaWoman
2 weeks ago

Trowbridge

If the service is good, I tip, I also get the binmen & postman something for Christmas

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By *ealitybitesMan
2 weeks ago

Belfast

My barber earns twice as much as I do.

I go to him 6 times a year at £15 a time and at Christmas I give him an extra fiver.

I don't have a milk man or coal man like we used to years ago.

I've no idea how to tip by card in a restaurant unless there is an actual option on the card machine to add 10 or 15 percent so I'll usually leave a 10 percent tip on the table or drop it in the tip jar.

I only do that in local restaurants though where I know the owners and staff and am confident that the staff will actually receive the tip.

In a place where I'm unsure I don't leave anything.

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By *ealitybitesMan
2 weeks ago

Belfast

"My barber earns twice as much as I do.

I go to him 6 times a year at £15 a time and at Christmas I give him an extra fiver.

I don't have a milk man or coal man like we used to years ago.

I only do that in local restaurants though where I know the owners and staff and am confident that the staff will actually receive the tip.

In a place where I'm unsure I don't leave anything. "

Just to add, I've no idea who my postman is as I never see him or her. They call when I'm at work.

As far as the bin men are concerned they have just had a huge pay rise and are earning much more than I am. At least 6 of them used to work for me in a previous role and I gave them a reference to get them the job on the bin lorries so they should be tipping me as well as tipping my bins 😁

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By *ildo_swagginsthe3rdWoman
2 weeks ago

Wales

I tip my hairdressers so they pay extra attention to my hair.

I gave chocolates as a Christmas gift to the vets that treat my cat, so they take extra good care of him.

I usually tip at restaurants unless it's been rubbish.

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By *onderWomanWlvWoman
2 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

I don't have much money. If i tipped all the services mentioned above, i wouldn't be able to ever afford them. I eat out at restaurants maybe once or twice a year, and have to budget for that to happen. I rarely have takeaways either. I don't go out much full stop.

I'm definitely in the "why am I expected to subsidise insufficient wages" camp.

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By *unthum62Man
2 weeks ago

Benidorm

I always tip waiting staff and taxi drivers as long as the service has been good and more if they go over and above their expected roles.

If there is disinterest or bad attitude shown then I don't.

I do object to a compulsory service charge especially if it absorbed in to the general takings rather than distributed to the staff.

I must say the bus drivers in Valencia deserve tips for their exceptional service above and beyond their duties but they won't accept it.

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By *rHotNottsMan
2 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I never tip in the uk , don’t see why I should subsidise tight fisted employers. The food is expensive enough and they don’t understand service at all. Unless it’s really good I’ll ask them to the service charge too.

Outside of uk , in Asia, the gulf , large parts of Africa there’s no minimum wage and tipping isn’t expected but I tend to tip very generously.

In my 40 years of work I never got tipped , most customers tried to haggle and pay less bit more!

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By *oubleswing2019Man
2 weeks ago

Colchester

I always tip and never fail to do so. But I don't tip for good service because that makes me personally feel a bit egotistical and deeming if the service was "worthy". I don't like making that kind of value "judgement" myself and it doesn't sit well with me.

No, I tip because invariably the waiting staff are not paid a lot and I want to help them a little.

Hairdresser / Taxi / Food delivery drivers / whoever.

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By *ohn.Wick.Man
2 weeks ago

The Continental

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By *os19Man
2 weeks ago

Edmonton

I only tip my barber.When a haircut was under £10 I tipped £1.When it went to £10 and now I pay £13 I tip £2

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By *xperiencing-newCouple
2 weeks ago

Nottingham

I always tip or complain there's no middle ground with me (R) I'm a barber and tips are rare now we're an almost cashless society.

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By *ai Hard 2 - Dai HarderMan
2 weeks ago

Manchester / Cardiff

Uh-uh, I don't tip.

You don't tip?

No, I don't believe in it.

You don't believe in tipping?

You know what these chicks make? They make shit.

Don't give me that. She don't make enough money that she can quit.

I don't even know a fucking Jew who'd have the balls to say that. Let me get this straight: you don't ever tip?

I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job.

Hey, our girl was nice.

She was okay. She wasn't anything special.

What's special? Take you in the back and suck your dick?

I'd go over twelve percent for that.

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By *sWyldWoman
2 weeks ago

Edinburgh

I tip if I go out to eat, I tip at the hair dressers, I tip my nail people and I always thank a bus driver on the rare occasion I get a bus. I also happily pay service charges.

Having worked Christmas day (no service charge added) and taking less than 8% in tips of total food spend, I actually found it rude.

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By *xstevenxxMan
2 weeks ago

Ashbourne

When I was in Florida - Denny’s for breakfast the back page was the tipping chart

What ever the amount spent there was a set about to be tipped.

Unreal ate there once

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By *ellhungvweMan
2 weeks ago

Cheltenham

I do tip in restaurants but only out of habit and I resent it. Like really resent it.

This idea that I am a bad person if I don’t tip completely overlooks the fact that the employer is getting away by not paying their staff properly. People are just doing a job and I have already paid for it so why do I need to pay again?

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By *ruceyyMan
2 weeks ago

London

No. Everything costs far too fucking much as it is these days. Pint for £7, no please take 10 are you CRAZY

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By *ildo_swagginsthe3rdWoman
2 weeks ago

Wales

I got a £50 cash tip once when I worked as a skint student. Made my night!

Took my fellow waitresses and the grumpy chef for after work drinks.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
2 weeks ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

In restaurants 5% - 7% occasionally 10% for very good service. Taxi's I will round up.

If I go to the bar for drinks then rarely.

I really don't want us to finish up like the US where big tipping is expected and staff see it as an entitlement. It's not.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
2 weeks ago

Colchester

It'd be nicer if our waiting staff were paid £15.00 a hour as recommended by various unions and those in the Hospitality sector representing workers.

And you could still tip on top of that if you wanted to.

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By *mileyculturebelfastMan
2 weeks ago

belfast

Not really. I don't employ the person. Their boss should be paying a proper wage. Good service is the minimum we should be expecting anyway.

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By *sWyldWoman
2 weeks ago

Edinburgh

"Not really. I don't employ the person. Their boss should be paying a proper wage. Good service is the minimum we should be expecting anyway. "

So are respectful patrons but we don't always get those

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By *lofeldMan
2 weeks ago

Redhill

Unless the service has been poor then I like to tip generously. Good karma, and helps them out.

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By *ealitybitesMan
2 weeks ago

Belfast

"It'd be nicer if our waiting staff were paid £15.00 a hour as recommended by various unions and those in the Hospitality sector representing workers.

And you could still tip on top of that if you wanted to."

I've worked for more than 40 years with 25 of those in management and I've never been paid £15 an hour.

All three of my daughters have worked in hospitality and 2 still do. One of them gets £12.50 an hour which is what I get also while the other gets $45 an hour in Australia and $90 ph for working Christmas day.

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By *h3rry Bomb80Man
2 weeks ago

the moon

I do …..

usually I’ll tell them to always smell the milk before you drink it ….

Always raises a smile 😊

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
2 weeks ago

Redditch

"It'd be nicer if our waiting staff were paid £15.00 a hour as recommended by various unions and those in the Hospitality sector representing workers.

And you could still tip on top of that if you wanted to."

15 an hour is 30k a year. People study for 4 years to qualify as teachers and get 30k a year. Wages should be based at least in part on skill level. The main issue with service work like waiting is that it really shouldnt be a long term career where 35 year olds are still doing it. If my waiter is over about 25 then something is wrong. Except in very high end places where they know the menu and provinence of all the ingredients of all the dishes and can recommend specific wines etc... It is hard to get good wait staff because most people who are excellent at it grow beyond it very early into adulthood. The market sets the value of their wages as it stands and restaurants cant pay very well due to small margins. Perhaps automatic tips added on should be illegal and prices put up to cover better wages? Or else we need huge pay rises for everyone which just adds to inflation if it happens socoety wide

Harsh but true

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By *ildTimes.Man
2 weeks ago

Colchester/London

If the service is particularly good yes, if not then no 🤷🏻‍♂️ thought that was pretty standard.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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2 weeks ago

East Sussex

If you want people in hospitality to have high wages be prepared to pay very high prices.

Part of what keeps wages low is our desire for large portions of food at low prices.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
2 weeks ago

Colchester

"It'd be nicer if our waiting staff were paid £15.00 a hour as recommended by various unions and those in the Hospitality sector representing workers.

And you could still tip on top of that if you wanted to.

Harsh but true"

Perhaps then, tipping should be differently ?

Eg, if you assume the waiting staff are paid NMW, (£12.21 / hr for over 18's as of April 2025), that's £2.79/hr under £15 right ?

So if you dine for 2 hours, you could in theory tip 2 x £2.79 = £5.58

If that was the norm, then that waiting staff would earn 30K a year if they worked a full week / hours.

Though £5.58 for waiting on a table does seem a bit cheap, so that should really be £5.58 per diner ?

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By *ellhungvweMan
2 weeks ago

Cheltenham

"If you want people in hospitality to have high wages be prepared to pay very high prices.

Part of what keeps wages low is our desire for large portions of food at low prices. "

Except you are paying the higher price in tips.

Personally I think prices should go up and people should be properly paid. I accept that a lot of places will then go bust but that’s just the market telling everyone that the restaurant industry is basically uneconomic. The model needs a new approach because relying on low wages is not good for anyone.

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By *arrenhertsmanMan
2 weeks ago

Hatfield

Yes I tip ….

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By *icecouple561Couple
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2 weeks ago

East Sussex

"If you want people in hospitality to have high wages be prepared to pay very high prices.

Part of what keeps wages low is our desire for large portions of food at low prices.

Except you are paying the higher price in tips.

Tipping gives the illusion of choice though. Few are brave enough not to tip at all.

I agree that relying on low wages isn't good for anyone. I think of the adult and child care sector in particular.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
2 weeks ago

Colchester

"If you want people in hospitality to have high wages be prepared to pay very high prices.

Part of what keeps wages low is our desire for large portions of food at low prices.

Except you are paying the higher price in tips.

Ultimately I agree.

If the only way you can get cheap food is for the waiting staff to be paid poorly (and thus economically exploited), aren't you also exploiting them by choosing to go there ? Continuing the cycle, so to speak ?

Definitely food for thought (pun intended) on a self-reflective Sunday morning !

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By *oeBeansMan
2 weeks ago

Derby

If a service charge is already included then I don't really have a choice, but otherwise I don't. As far as I'm concerned, we as the consumer aren't responsible for ensuring the employees are given a liveable wage and to keep tipped enable the greedy bosses to hold out on their employees.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
2 weeks ago

Colchester

"I think of the adult and child care sector in particular. "

Certainly. I have always found it galling that the most vulnerable in society are more often cared for by the people on the least wages. That does not sit right with me.

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By *arkus1812Man
2 weeks ago

Finedon ,

I always tip in restaurants 10% to 15%

With regard to Cleaners, Grass Cutter, Window cleaner,Postman, Refuse Collectors I gave £30 each as a Christmas Box.

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By *sWyldWoman
2 weeks ago

Edinburgh

"It'd be nicer if our waiting staff were paid £15.00 a hour as recommended by various unions and those in the Hospitality sector representing workers.

And you could still tip on top of that if you wanted to.

Harsh but true

Perhaps then, tipping should be differently ?

Eg, if you assume the waiting staff are paid NMW, (£12.21 / hr for over 18's as of April 2025), that's £2.79/hr under £15 right ?

So if you dine for 2 hours, you could in theory tip 2 x £2.79 = £5.58

If that was the norm, then that waiting staff would earn 30K a year if they worked a full week / hours.

Though £5.58 for waiting on a table does seem a bit cheap, so that should really be £5.58 per diner ?"

You forget that often tips are shared so the person serving you no matter how amazing they are, may only see about 50p of your tip.. If they are lucky

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
2 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

Very rarely do I tip.

Sometimes I will chip in with friends rather than cause a fuss but generally and when on my own ... no I don't.

I'd love to know why people do. Seriously.

As long as it's not the usual trope of ' well they gave me good service'

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By *icecouple561Couple
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2 weeks ago

East Sussex

"I think of the adult and child care sector in particular.

Certainly. I have always found it galling that the most vulnerable in society are more often cared for by the people on the least wages. That does not sit right with me.

What's even more galling is that people have such a low opinion of the people who care for their children, elderly and vulnerable loved ones that they're happy for them to earn minimum wage. Then complain about the cost.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
2 weeks ago

North West

Dai, I know your quote is from Reservoir Dogs but probably best to star out the racist bit within it, methinks.

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By *ou only live onceMan
2 weeks ago

London

Yes, I do. In restaurants, I'll normally tip 10% come what may (less it's been particularly bad!). It just feels like a thing you should do, and I'll leave more of they've been particularly good.

I don't really like the automatic service charge adding, unless they're clear that it goes to staff in full. I was recently in a place where there was a 5% service charge that the waitress specifically said was not for staff and that was annoying. Just put the prices up and we'll decide whether the food's worth the price!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
2 weeks ago

North West

"I think of the adult and child care sector in particular.

Certainly. I have always found it galling that the most vulnerable in society are more often cared for by the people on the least wages. That does not sit right with me.

My personal experience of the care sector recently is that you get what you pay for. When I had council carers coming, it cost me £18 ph. The visit was max 45min and each day a completely different person came and we spent some of the minutes explaining my needs and where things are in my house. They then proceeded to rush through my personal care as quickly as possible, aiming to be out of the door within 30nins, presumably to make up time for the visits that would inevitably go over time. They were not allowed to assist me to get in or out of my car and could not give even approximate times of arrival, e.g. first visit of the morning.

I'm now paying £34 ph to a private agency. My visit is 1hr and not a moment less. I have 3 people who come on a rota and all know my needs and where stuff is. They will not only help with personal care, but also empty the dishwasher, do some laundry, put the hoover round (all of which help Mr KC immensely) and they will assist me to get in or out of the car. They also come at specific times, on the dot.

£34 an hour is a lot to pay but it's the only way care can be done properly. £18ph gets you the absolute bare basics, if you're lucky.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
2 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

This for me too

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By *icecouple561Couple
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2 weeks ago

East Sussex

"I think of the adult and child care sector in particular.

Certainly. I have always found it galling that the most vulnerable in society are more often cared for by the people on the least wages. That does not sit right with me.

£34 an hour is a lot to pay but it's the only way care can be done properly. £18ph gets you the absolute bare basics, if you're lucky. "

£18 an hour is quite reasonable in comparison.

You do get what you pay for, I know that very well. I also know that people struggle to pay even the most inexpensive rate.

What's to be done? People can't afford to pay what the job is worth.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
2 weeks ago

North West

£34 an hour is a lot to pay but it's the only way care can be done properly. £18ph gets you the absolute bare basics, if you're lucky.

£18 an hour is quite reasonable in comparison.

You do get what you pay for, I know that very well. I also know that people struggle to pay even the most inexpensive rate.

What's to be done? People can't afford to pay what the job is worth."

£18 ph seems reasonable but you're not going to get all your needs met. And you're going to get short changed timewise and totally unable to work or do anything outside the house because they can't aid with anything like helping one get into the car. Basically it was £18ph for someone to put water in a basin and help get my knickers on.

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By *ellhungvweMan
2 weeks ago

Cheltenham

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By *ellhungvweMan
2 weeks ago

Cheltenham

£34 an hour is a lot to pay but it's the only way care can be done properly. £18ph gets you the absolute bare basics, if you're lucky.

£18 an hour is quite reasonable in comparison.

You do get what you pay for, I know that very well. I also know that people struggle to pay even the most inexpensive rate.

What's to be done? People can't afford to pay what the job is worth.

What you are really saying is that £18ph isn’t value but £34ph is. For a lot of people that will hurt their heads - how can something that is more expensive be better value? Of course it can be better value if it meets your needs and the alternatives don’t. I feel for you having to pay £34ph but totally get why you are doing it.

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By *orthernJayMan
2 weeks ago

Oxford

" £34 an hour is a lot to pay but it's the only way care can be done properly. £18ph gets you the absolute bare basics, if you're lucky. "

Forgive my ignorance, you pay £34 an hour for three visits a day on a rota?

Hundred quid plus a day?

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By *ora the explorerWoman
2 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

"I think of the adult and child care sector in particular.

Certainly. I have always found it galling that the most vulnerable in society are more often cared for by the people on the least wages. That does not sit right with me.

£34 an hour is a lot to pay but it's the only way care can be done properly. £18ph gets you the absolute bare basics, if you're lucky. "

This is true. £35 an hour for my mother in law. I’m damned sure the person who comes round doesn’t get the £35 though 😕. We don’t tip but we bought her a big hamper at Xmas.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
2 weeks ago

North West

" £34 an hour is a lot to pay but it's the only way care can be done properly. £18ph gets you the absolute bare basics, if you're lucky.

Forgive my ignorance, you pay £34 an hour for three visits a day on a rota?

Hundred quid plus a day?

I pay £34 ph for one visit in a morning, to help me get ready for work and out of the door. It costs me £170 a week for the privilege of getting showered, dressed and into my car to then be a productive member of society. I don't qualify for council funding. Because I work (income).

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
2 weeks ago

North West

£34 an hour is a lot to pay but it's the only way care can be done properly. £18ph gets you the absolute bare basics, if you're lucky.

£18 an hour is quite reasonable in comparison.

You do get what you pay for, I know that very well. I also know that people struggle to pay even the most inexpensive rate.

What's to be done? People can't afford to pay what the job is worth.

£18ph doesn't allow me to work, just exist. The council carers cannot attend at a fixed time, they could come anywhere between 07:30-10:30 but 07:30 is too late to get me ready and out in time. They couldn't hoist my wheelchair into the car and so I wouldn't be able to go to work after getting showered/dressed. £18ph is the bare basics of human existence.

£34ph gets me showered, dressed, a bit of housework, help to get my daughter's breakfast, the car defrosted/packed and help to get in it so I can drive to school and then work.

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By *andynecklaceWoman
2 weeks ago

Someplace

No.

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By *tarcrossed_SwingersCouple
2 weeks ago

Loughborough

If the service has been exceptional and no service charge added, then we will

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By *orthernJayMan
2 weeks ago

Oxford

" £34 an hour is a lot to pay but it's the only way care can be done properly. £18ph gets you the absolute bare basics, if you're lucky.

Forgive my ignorance, you pay £34 an hour for three visits a day on a rota?

Hundred quid plus a day?

I applaud your tenacity and drive, whilst being astounded at the cost!

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
2 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

No, as a rule I don’t tip.

I only consider it if someone has done something outside of the job they are supposed to be doing, I therefore consider that as an extra and deserving of remuneration.

Someone doing their job is not reason to tip.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
2 weeks ago

North West

" £34 an hour is a lot to pay but it's the only way care can be done properly. £18ph gets you the absolute bare basics, if you're lucky.

Forgive my ignorance, you pay £34 an hour for three visits a day on a rota?

Hundred quid plus a day?

I applaud your tenacity and drive, whilst being astounded at the cost! "

I'm the main income earner. Me giving up = destitution.

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By *ony MannMan
2 weeks ago

Las Gaviotos, Fuerteventura

There is a restaurant in New York that says, do not tip. They explain that they pay their staff well and they do not need to beg from customers.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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2 weeks ago

East Sussex

" £34 an hour is a lot to pay but it's the only way care can be done properly. £18ph gets you the absolute bare basics, if you're lucky.

Forgive my ignorance, you pay £34 an hour for three visits a day on a rota?

Hundred quid plus a day?

I applaud your tenacity and drive, whilst being astounded at the cost!

I'm the main income earner. Me giving up = destitution."

Do you claim attendance allowance etc?

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By *ein-guyMan
2 weeks ago

Cowes

Always, if the service is good. I always ask if it goes straight to the staff rather than through the company and if so, I only tip in cash

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By *ools and the brainCouple
2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Genuinely cannot remember the last time we had service in this country that's warranted tipping, most places seem to employ miserable staff who make it obvious that they'd rather be anywhere else, compared to where we go on holiday in Greece nothing is too much trouble and they genuinely seem to enjoy what they do.

I'm sure they don't but honestly in the UK, pub's, restaurants, delivery, cab's...... Maybe we've just been unlucky?

I rarely complain to staff unless it's absolutely necessary, we are the type who will sit and wait without asking how long stuff will be so it's not like we are "that" couple who complain, afterwards to each other maybe.

So no generally we don't tip unless we feel it's been earned.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
2 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

You are all so very generous.

Do you ask the bin men to knock each week?

The girl on the supermarket till ? Where does she put hers when you tip her ?

I've often wondered whether to get my doctor a nice little piggy bank so that she can collect all the tips I give her.

The police ..... their hats used to be taller for putting the tips in.

Last time the fire brigade was here I gave them all a pound a piece.

When I had my roof repaired after Storm Darrah ? I said ..... HOW MUCH ? Oh mate..... here have 20% more. YOur house is twice the size of mind and you could buy and sell me but here ...... I LIKE to tip.

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By *entomillaMan
2 weeks ago

norwich

I do ! I always tip , rounded or extra

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By *aitonelMan
2 weeks ago

Liverpool

"Genuinely cannot remember the last time we had service in this country that's warranted tipping, most places seem to employ miserable staff who make it obvious that they'd rather be anywhere else, compared to where we go on holiday in Greece nothing is too much trouble and they genuinely seem to enjoy what they do.

I'm sure they don't but honestly in the UK, pub's, restaurants, delivery, cab's...... Maybe we've just been unlucky?

So no generally we don't tip unless we feel it's been earned."

To be fair while I'm not a tipper, I make it a personal mission not to make waiting staff have a harder time than they already do from dealing with other difficult people.

Having worked in that and other serving roles, I don't blame them being miserable. It's not the best working conditions as a whole and the worst of it is the public themselves that make it such a miserable job. Just one "bad" customer can ruin an entire mood for the week, it's disheartening and demoralising.

Waiting and front of house staff often feel the brunt of the wrath and abuse from customers that chefs and back of house just never see never mind deal with. They are certainly not paid enough for that, but at the same time I'm not the one giving them the hard time so it's not on me to pay out to make up for the short comings of other customers either.

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By *uenevereWoman
2 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

It depends on the situation.

In a restaurant I would tip if service was very good or round up for ease.

I rarely tip anyone else.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

I'm sure they don't but honestly in the UK, pub's, restaurants, delivery, cab's...... Maybe we've just been unlucky?

So no generally we don't tip unless we feel it's been earned.

To be fair while I'm not a tipper, I make it a personal mission not to make waiting staff have a harder time than they already do from dealing with other difficult people.

I kinda get your point,and in fact we have tipped in the past if we've seen a staff member getting a hard time from a customer through no fault of their own.

I work in a customer facing role and previously for a busy customer service department for a bedroom furniture installation service trust me I know how rude people can be.

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By *aitonelMan
2 weeks ago

Liverpool

"You are all so very generous.

Do you ask the bin men to knock each week?

The girl on the supermarket till ? Where does she put hers when you tip her ?

I've often wondered whether to get my doctor a nice little piggy bank so that she can collect all the tips I give her.

The police ..... their hats used to be taller for putting the tips in.

Last time the fire brigade was here I gave them all a pound a piece.

This is it for me. Mostly. Where do you actually draw the line - then if you do have a line what's the justification for one over the other? (general question, not aimed at GC)

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By *ansoffateMan
2 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

I do and I am generous if the service I've received warrants it.

I don't appreciate automatic service charges added to bills, I find that quite presumptuous. It appears to be something of the norm now and I am skeptical that little of it reaches the pockets of those who are carrying out the customer service roles.

I think generally customer service is quite poor in this country now. It's very much that's not our policy and a one size fits all approach. You can use certain parlance to circumnavigate things. e.g. dietary requirements. It just feels like you need an excuse to make a simple request, rather than your custom being valued. I've actually tested this theory out several times. Make a request. Sorry no that's not our policy. It's a dietary requirement. Ok I will see what we can do.

That's their prerogative of course, but I am unlikely to tip for a service if I feel that they can't be bothered to accommodate a simple request, out of expectation.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
2 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

TIPPING .........

It has it's routes in MEDIEVAL times. MASTER gave a little money to SERFS... ..... people who were unfortunate and had nothing and no prospects,

The serfs would probably have tugged at their caps if they had one and say awwwwww god bless you sir..... and try to buy a loaf of bread.

No one is my SERF. No one is my MASTER

I find it incredibly STUPID that people do this in 2024 without any knowledge of what lies behind it.

The people you tip are not in the gutter. Get real.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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2 weeks ago

East Sussex

My hairdresser received Christmas presents from clients. Sometimes quite costly ones. I've never really understood that or giving gifts to teachers. I have news, every new year and summer break sees teachers in their droves travelling to charity shops miles from home with bags of genuinely appreciated but unwanted gifts.

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By *aitonelMan
2 weeks ago

Liverpool

"My hairdresser received Christmas presents from clients. Sometimes quite costly ones. I've never really understood that or giving gifts to teachers. I have news, every new year and summer break sees teachers in their droves travelling to charity shops miles from home with bags of genuinely appreciated but unwanted gifts. "

Do they fuck, they keep them and reuse them as gifts for others.

I'm surrounded by teachers, this is the way.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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2 weeks ago

East Sussex

Fairly difficult to regift a 'to Mrs Anyteachername' mug

Or give your mum a 'best teacher' wall hanging

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By *oubleswing2019Man
2 weeks ago

Colchester

"The people you tip are not in the gutter. Get real."

I don't think anyone suggested that they were GC, but isn't it nice to value others above and beyond what their own employer values them for ?

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By * and R cple4Couple
2 weeks ago

swansea

I pay 130 for a cut blowdry and a colour so no i definitely dont tip my hairdresser.

I don't really tip at all their is a small local cake shop that put a tip tin on the counter a month before Christmas which i might put a fiver in if i remember to have cash on me but that's about it.

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By *aitonelMan
2 weeks ago

Liverpool

"Fairly difficult to regift a 'to Mrs Anyteachername' mug

Or give your mum a 'best teacher' wall hanging

To be fair, some mums are the best teachers!

Also the teachers I know would never be considered best 😂

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By *tsJustKateWoman
2 weeks ago

London

I wouldn't frequent anywhere that add their own tips/service charge.

I tip solely based on the quality of service I received.

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By *rafter69Man
2 weeks ago

upminster

I do tip if I think someone has made a great effort. Having my takaway handed to me with the drinks running out the bags and they just go sorry then no.

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By *mileyculturebelfastMan
2 weeks ago

belfast

"Not really. I don't employ the person. Their boss should be paying a proper wage. Good service is the minimum we should be expecting anyway.

So are respectful patrons but we don't always get those "

Patrons don't get paid to use your place.

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By *in deliveryMan
2 weeks ago

Tattershall

Always tipped but with minimum wage now I don't. It's strange someone who takes your order and brings you food you feel obliged to tip however the person in tesco who earns the same you don't. Care assistants earn same as waiter/waitress works bloody hard but it's a job you don't tip

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By *in deliveryMan
2 weeks ago

Tattershall

"I always tip. Unless service has been terrible.

I just can’t deal with people who don’t.

Sorry. "

But why? Society says who you tip and who you don't tip but with minimum wage you choose to tip one sector but not the other regardless of service

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By *in deliveryMan
2 weeks ago

Tattershall

"Uh-uh, I don't tip.

You don't tip?

No, I don't believe in it.

You don't believe in tipping?

You know what these chicks make? They make shit.

Don't give me that. She don't make enough money that she can quit.

I don't even know a fucking Jew who'd have the balls to say that. Let me get this straight: you don't ever tip?

Hey, our girl was nice.

She was okay. She wasn't anything special.

What's special? Take you in the back and suck your dick?

I'd go over twelve percent for that.

Mr pink

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By *adam PadamWoman
2 weeks ago

leeds

"Depends on the service I get if they are a miserable sod then I don't. "

Exactly this. There's a restaurant in wr that asks to order on app and asks for tip before service. How do you know if you want to until end.

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By *cLovin2Man
2 weeks ago

Reading

The only place I have come across this is in restaurants. I honestly don't see why I should be paying someone else's staff to perform their job. I know they don't earn a lot, but surely the restaurant should be paying them a living wage out of the extortionate amount we are charged for food.

We don't do this in any other industry, so why here?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
2 weeks ago

North West

" £34 an hour is a lot to pay but it's the only way care can be done properly. £18ph gets you the absolute bare basics, if you're lucky.

Forgive my ignorance, you pay £34 an hour for three visits a day on a rota?

Hundred quid plus a day?

I applaud your tenacity and drive, whilst being astounded at the cost!

I'm the main income earner. Me giving up = destitution.

Do you claim attendance allowance etc? "

Attendance Allowance is only for people of pension age.

Can't get carer's allowance due to.... income.

Applied for PIP finally. Awaiting outcome but holding out no hope, having seen mate's who are amputees having to go to tribunal to explain things like why they can't use a prosthetic 24/7 or every day, because the decision makers are so incompetent. I really don't have the mental fortitude to beg for it. And I'd need higher rate on both aspects for it to actually JUST cover the costs. Forget it also covering my mobility equipment!

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By *viatrixWoman
2 weeks ago

Redhill

"I always tip. Unless service has been terrible.

I just can’t deal with people who don’t.

Sorry.

But why? Society says who you tip and who you don't tip but with minimum wage you choose to tip one sector but not the other regardless of service "

I tip people in the industry of service- like delivery staff (I use them heavily because am housebound at the minute etc) hairdressers (though I very rarely do my hair in this country), not just limited to restaurant staff. So you’re wrong in your assumption that I tip some and not others.

People can do what they like, but I find it cheap and distasteful when sitting at a restaurant they start picking the bill apart and going with that “well, it’s not our responsibility to pay the waiters…” so I’d much prefer to dine on my own or with my immediate family with whom I share the tipping thoughts/beliefs.

Having said all this, I spend a fair bit of time in the US and the fact they expect at least 25% for a tip is a bit …. Tough. Especially at places like Starbucks or Dunkin’ where no real service is done. That I do object to. For full service at a restaurant with a nice attitude, I will tip the 25% but no more than that. And they expect more! 😳😳😳

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By *rHotNottsMan
2 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham

People just don’t think.

They tip some people / sectors because it’s the done thing & they feel pressured because it’s in your face , that over worked underpaid , minimum waged, person, it’s almost begging.

People also work in horrific conditions on min wage in factories making that same shit they put in the microwaves and serve you , but they don’t get charity do they ?

At the end of the day tipping is a form of charitable giving, it’s entirely up to the individual how much of their money they give away and to who.

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By *riar BelisseWoman
2 weeks ago

Delightful Bliss

No I don't voluntarily tip services. I pay the added service charge, because I have to. Any cash I have spare, goes to a charity I support

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By *westUKguyMan
2 weeks ago

Southport

I always tip (unless poor service) ..waiters, waitresses, bar staff, never a set amount but never a pathetic amount either, if i buy something from the corner shop say...i always say put change in charity box..something ive always done

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
2 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

"I always tip (unless poor service) ..waiters, waitresses, bar staff, never a set amount but never a pathetic amount either, if i buy something from the corner shop say...i always say put change in charity box..something ive always done"

Why do you tip a waiter who doing their job but not the person in the shop doing their job, it seems very inconsistent. I don’t tip btw.

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By *ealitybitesMan
2 weeks ago

Belfast

Why do you tip a waiter who doing their job but not the person in the shop doing their job, it seems very inconsistent. I don’t tip btw. "

If I go into a shop the only service I may get from a member of staff is at the till and even then most shops including small local ones have self service tills.

The chances of someone working in a shop losing their job for sticking the pound I've just given them in their pocket rather than the till is pretty high so it's not something I would ever consider.

In a restaurant I'm being waited on, my order taken, my food brought to me and the table cleared.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
2 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

Why do you tip a waiter who doing their job but not the person in the shop doing their job, it seems very inconsistent. I don’t tip btw.

If I go into a shop the only service I may get from a member of staff is at the till and even then most shops including small local ones have self service tills.

The chances of someone working in a shop losing their job for sticking the pound I've just given them in their pocket rather than the till is pretty high so it's not something I would ever consider.

In a restaurant I'm being waited on, my order taken, my food brought to me and the table cleared. "

How do you think the goods get onto the shelves for you to purchase, how do the baskets get back to the stack so people can use them, who clears out of date items from the shelf so they are not purchased, that would be members of the shop staff providing you with a service.

The shop worker is being paid to do their job, the waiter/waitress, is being paid to do their job, why tip one and not the other , it’s inconsistent. I don’t tip people for doing the job they are paid to do.

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By *ethenerdsCouple
2 weeks ago

St. Leonards-on-Sea

I don't tip anyone. I don't get tips for doing my job.

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By *westUKguyMan
2 weeks ago

Southport

Wowwwwww so much bitterness and tight twats out there..miserable fuckers

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By *rMonkeyMan
2 weeks ago

Somewhere

No, service charge always removed as well.

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By *mf123Man
2 weeks ago

with one foot out the door

No im far too cheap for that nonesense

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2 weeks ago

I always TIP if service is good.

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