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"Isn’t justice revenge by another name? " No | |||
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"Isn’t justice revenge by another name? " Absolutely it is. Revenge is punishing someone for wrongdoing and getting satisfaction (justice). | |||
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"If someone deliberately hurt my partner, my children or anyone I love would I want revenge? Absolutely I would. I'd plan it carefully and execute it thoroughly. As a general rule though it's not a great idea. As they say 'an eye for an eye makes us all blind' " I think I'd risk one eye. | |||
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"I personally don't think malicious revenge is a good thing. Even if someone did something really horrible to you. However i am a lover of small petty revenge. Just tiny little things that even if the other person isnt aware off that just set the world a little rigjt again. " Hi _haiababe, yes, you are right there, it isnt a good thing to do | |||
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"Revenge is merely perspective. One could argue that the criminal justice system seeks revenge by punishing wrongdoing in the first instance but is called consequences of someone's actions. Whether it is acceptable for a private individual to exact revenge on another is a matter of personal opinion and whether two wrongs would make a right." It's still revenge regardless of terminology.. consequences is something done without direct involvement. A warning but no guarantee of an action. Revenge is asserting a guarantee to an action. So yes the justice system is both a consequence and a revenge. I don't believe a judicial system works when it allows those WHO ARE TRULY INNOCENT to suffer the consequences of revenge. YET it allows those who are TRULY GUILTY to not have to face revenge. | |||
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"Most revenge is because someone wants to undo the past and that can never happen. Only action directed towards the future and healing can help. I read recently "the punishment can never fit the crime, for it can never undo it." It stuck with me. " In the real world, what Julie said. And we need to get the world there. In a far more exciting, scintillating, but thoroughly delusional world, I'm always rooting for The Count or Hamlet. | |||
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"Most revenge is because someone wants to undo the past and that can never happen. Only action directed towards the future and healing can help. I read recently "the punishment can never fit the crime, for it can never undo it." It stuck with me. In the real world, what Julie said. And we need to get the world there. In a far more exciting, scintillating, but thoroughly delusional world, I'm always rooting for The Count or Hamlet." Same. And The Man In The Iron Mask. Dumas wrote the best revenge plots. 👌 | |||
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"Most revenge is because someone wants to undo the past and that can never happen. Only action directed towards the future and healing can help. I read recently "the punishment can never fit the crime, for it can never undo it." It stuck with me. In the real world, what Julie said. And we need to get the world there. In a far more exciting, scintillating, but thoroughly delusional world, I'm always rooting for The Count or Hamlet. Same. And The Man In The Iron Mask. Dumas wrote the best revenge plots. 👌" Has anyone done them better? | |||
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"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die." 😍😍😍 | |||
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"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die. 😍😍😍" Obi - it's going on my watchlist now! 💙 | |||
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"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die." As you wish. 😍 | |||
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"Brad Pitt in 7 Nicholas Cage in Con Air (he should have just put the bunny back in the box) And of course Russell. "My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next......."" My name is Geoff.... | |||
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"Brad Pitt in 7 Nicholas Cage in Con Air (he should have just put the bunny back in the box) And of course Russell. "My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next......."" All awesome. But all tragic - nothing was made better. Apart from Nic. 😁 | |||
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"Oh. And of course Deadpool. Ajax deserved it. " Nah uh uh, not Ajax....... Francis | |||
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"Revenge is a dish best served cold." Like lemon sorbet. Or ice cream.  | |||
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"Revenge is a dish best served cold. Like lemon sorbet. Or ice cream. "No, with lingerie and a body hot enough to burn the house down 🔥🔥🔥 | |||
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"Revenge is a dish best served cold. Like lemon sorbet. Or ice cream. "Not too cold though, as it can be too solid then, or even form ice crystals and that kind of spoils the melt in the mouth experience. I prefer lime or mango sorbet, but I don't know if that is relevant to the analogy. | |||
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"Yes, sometimes. There's a handful of people I'd happily push into an active volcano if the opportunity presented itself. " Hey remind me never to piss you off | |||
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""An eye for an eye" is from the Bible's Book of Exodus, so the idea of revenge has been around for a very long time" Hi sally, yes, you are right there, the idea of revenge have been around for a very long time too | |||
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"Before I ask the question. I will sett the scene. I am watching the count of monte cristo, it is very good, have you also seen it too? He was unlawfully sent down to prison, the prison was called castillo de if in france, he managed to escape from it by digging himself out from it after 15 years in there, it would of been more if he didnt escape. He went to the church and wanted to ask the priest in the confession box if it would be ok to do revenge, because 15 years of his life had been taken from him, the priest of course, which is understandably wasnt keen in on it and told him reasons why he shoudlnt do it. That got me thinking, is there situations that revenge would be acceptable in special circumstances like that, could revenge be part of the system of justice? I think it is a tricky one as there are a lot of feelings involved, but of course, the best choice would be not to do and instead show those who did it to him how greater person you have become and a successful one too "The Hollywood one with Jim Caviziel? It’s a fantastic story and must admit loving the book. Dantes is wronged. Betrayed and punished for a crime he didn’t commit and loses his girlfriend/sweetheart to one of the men that framed him. His revenge is slow and elaborate with all three who wronged him. In the circumstances of that character you can’t blame him for what he did as everything was taken from him. What there is to think about is how revenge changed him as a person. The education and wealth he acquired along the way wasn’t enough, he needed more than just that. Was he wrong to do what he did? Possibly, maybe not to the audience of the movie and that’s where the gist of it is. Revenge as a form of therapy or compensation or revenge as the means and motive are there? He could simply have walked away after his escape from prison. The question is what to do at that point when you can walk away from things. Don’t answer the insult. Don’t send that message, don’t have that last word. It may be less satisfying but loose ends can irritate people, even years later. | |||
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"Revenge is never the answer for anything, at the end of the day the desire to get revenge comes from the wrong place, it’s the egos way of attacking back, its you saying to yourself that I have been wronged so I cast judgment upon someone else, to the point where I can justify my own destructive actions towards others because in this case they deserve it, and them suffering will hurt them and make me feel good. There’s no peace in that, you need to elevate to a point where you understand yourself and others so much that ultimately you won’t be emotional to the point of wanting to exact revenge, and your sense of peace is unwavering regardless of other peoples actions." I disagree, a Farmer put up a sign at the edge of his farm. On the sign he'd written... "God forgives those that trespass against him, I don't, I shoot the bastards", Great minds and all that, Mrs x | |||
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"Revenge is never the answer for anything, at the end of the day the desire to get revenge comes from the wrong place, it’s the egos way of attacking back, its you saying to yourself that I have been wronged so I cast judgment upon someone else, to the point where I can justify my own destructive actions towards others because in this case they deserve it, and them suffering will hurt them and make me feel good. There’s no peace in that, you need to elevate to a point where you understand yourself and others so much that ultimately you won’t be emotional to the point of wanting to exact revenge, and your sense of peace is unwavering regardless of other peoples actions." This is the most sensible and profound statement so far. You are quite correct. The desire for revenge comes from baser emotions. . McKee elaborated in (Social Justice Research (Vol. 138, No. 2)) linking vengeful tendencies primarily with two social attitudes: right-wing authoritarianism and social dominance, and the motivational values that underlie those attitudes. . "People who are more vengeful tend to be those who are motivated by power, by authority and by the desire for status," he says. "They don't want to lose face." . Ask someone why they seek revenge, though, and they're likely to tell you their goal is catharsis, says Kevin Carlsmith, PhD, a social psychologist at Colgate University in Hamilton, N.Y. But exactly the opposite happens, according to a study he published in the May 2008 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (Vol. 95, No. 6). . The conclusion was "When we don't get revenge, we're able to trivialize the event, he says. We tell ourselves that because we didn't act on our vengeful feelings, it wasn't a big deal, so it's easier to forget it and move on. But when we do get revenge, we can no longer trivialize the situation. Instead, we think about it. A lot. . "Rather than providing closure, it does the opposite: It keeps the wound open and fresh," he says." . It's definitely an interesting subject of study (as are "micro-aggressions beneath the veneer of civility). Violent primates, that's all we mostly are beneath the surface. | |||
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"Isn’t justice revenge by another name? " This. We concentrate too much on punishment. Society is a way of ensuring people can live together with the maximum amount of harmony. The way we deal with people who cause harm should be focused on methods that been demonstrated to reduce the level of harm. Instead, what people want from justice is revenge, even when it has been demonstrated to be ineffective. Does it give a feeling of satisfaction that a pe@do has been badly hurt in prison? Of course. It appeals to our very nature. Wouldn't a better result be rehabilitation so that when he finally gets out he's a much reduced risk rather than an increased one? At a human level, this feels wrong, we instinctively want them to suffer but at an intellectual level, it is obvious that reducing harm to society trumps our own urges. People who can control their base desires for the good of others impress me far more than those making bragging statements about how they will rain down judgement on those they perceive to have done wrong. P | |||
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Perhaps I haven’t seen or been in contact with someone for maybe ten years, and then through work I am able to make a decision that will shaft them………… and I do. | |||
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