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"Watching about 9/11. It was a sad state of affairs.. My ex husband who was American and in the army enlisted soon after 9/11 as he wanted to do something for his country.. Then we had 7/7 I remember this day clearly I was meant to of gone to training and using the tube that day to get to the training however it was cancelled.. I went to work only to be trapped at work pretty much all day and night as I worked nextdoor to MI5 or 6.. I can't remember. Is terrisom ever going to be something that we get rid of or are we just going to be wondering when the next attack is going to happen? " One of the first terrorist attacks (or attempted attacks, at least) we still commemorate, November 5th Treason Plot of 1605, could have altered the history of this country very radically. We have had numerous ones since, not least in the 1970s with the terrorist attacks by the IRA. I grew up being conscious of reporting packages left behind unattended in public places. I still am and have reported suitcases left alone in airports before now. | |||
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"Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear..... "True. And it seems like nothing is done about it Even the russian president warned UK about being the heaven for all sort of wanna be terrorist | |||
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"Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear.....
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And it seems like nothing is done about it
Even the russian president warned UK about being the heaven for all sort of wanna be terrorist"Oh I think plenty is being done about it....we just don't hear about it. | |||
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"Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear.....
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And it seems like nothing is done about it
Even the russian president warned UK about being the heaven for all sort of wanna be terrorist"I think you do the intelligence and security services a disservice as we never hear about the numerous foiled attempts or arrests etc. | |||
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"Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear.....
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Even the russian president warned UK about being the heaven for all sort of wanna be terrorist"I think a lot is done about it. There is a lot going on behind scenes. How many attacks have been stopped? But we also need to be vigilant. As I said before, I grew up conscious of keeping an eye out for unattended bags. There were even recordings played on buses warning people to inform the police if they saw any. I remember hearing them on the way to school. | |||
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"For years we have had terror attacks in britain, as a child growing up there was the bombing linked to Irish paramilitary groups. Now we have bombings linked to extremists." Not just in Britain - other European countries also had their own terror cells. | |||
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"For years we have had terror attacks in britain, as a child growing up there was the bombing linked to Irish paramilitary groups. Now we have bombings linked to extremists." So quickly many forget how bad all the troubles were. I think we just learned to live with all that sadly. | |||
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"Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear.....
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Even the russian president warned UK about being the heaven for all sort of wanna be terrorist"A lot is done about it, we just don't hear about it. Millions of people in the world. They can't watch them all. Sometimes someone slips through the net. The whole world is the same. | |||
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"Until ths country starts putting terrorsts on plane to jordan israel or wherever instead of in social housing we will be haven for terrorists " The most destructive/efficient/successful terrorists we have had in this country were in fact born here, you can't sent people back home if they were born in Luton/Birmingham/Leicester/London. | |||
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. " respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer.. sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far.. dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..? | |||
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 are cut in such an angle looks like thermite has been used.
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"Until ths country starts putting terrorsts on plane to jordan israel or wherever instead of in social housing we will be haven for terrorists " This deserves 'Post if the Week' award. | |||
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"This is not a new thing, anyone who is old enough to remember the 70's and the IRA bombings will know we had to be vigilant all the while, in fact i would say i was personally more vigilant then as they would target any areas. When i first moved to Leicester a bomb went off in a pub killing two people. We lived in a shared house at the time and had a spare room advertised in the paper, the police phoned us to see if we had had any irish accented people ring about the room so they do go to all lengths to try and catch them. The nail bombers also freaked me out as there was a rumour that the main road we used to live off was going to be a target." There was also the careers office bombing on Yeoman Street. I know for a fact that Leicester is on high alert at all times. Certain parts of the city are being raided regularly, either by immigration or counter terrorist police. Several years ago I was involved in one such raid on St Saviors road when we took 6 people away and enough equipment to bring down several buildings. Intelligence and counter terror ops are going on all the time and are highly effective. Sadly there will always be one that slips through the net... | |||
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer.. sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far.. dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..?" People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?! | |||
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer.. sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far.. dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..? People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?!" Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story. If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down. But, hey, that's just my opinion... | |||
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer.. sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far.. dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..? People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?! Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story. If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down. But, hey, that's just my opinion..." Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right 
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer.. sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far.. dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..? People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?! Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story. If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down. But, hey, that's just my opinion... Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right
"Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible. | |||
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"The USA are the biggest terrorists in the world in fact probably they would want to kill me just for saying that the land of the free eh and they are still the only nation on the planet to obliterate innocent men women and children with nuclear weapons I think they are slowly loosing their allies " And in the process saved over a million more lives and shortened the war by an estimated 2 years. Sometimes the greater good is a terrible thing... | |||
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" Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible." and building 7, which wasn't hit by planes, etc etc etc etc? | |||
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. " Thank fuck someones awake | |||
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"This is not a new thing, anyone who is old enough to remember the 70's and the IRA bombings will know we had to be vigilant all the while, in fact i would say i was personally more vigilant then as they would target any areas. When i first moved to Leicester a bomb went off in a pub killing two people. We lived in a shared house at the time and had a spare room advertised in the paper, the police phoned us to see if we had had any irish accented people ring about the room so they do go to all lengths to try and catch them. The nail bombers also freaked me out as there was a rumour that the main road we used to live off was going to be a target." Just trying to remember the two countries that gave arms to the IRA; one was Lybia and the other ... er ... oh yes, the USA (through their NorAid programme). So, for the US to say that they don't support terrorism ...  | |||
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer.. sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far.. dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..? People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?! Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story. If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down. But, hey, that's just my opinion... Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right
Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible."True, but they're cut at a perfect 45 degree angle, so we supposed to believe that this was just another magical accident? Righttttt | |||
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer.. sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far.. dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..? People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?! Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story. If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down. But, hey, that's just my opinion... Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right
Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.
True, but they're cut at a perfect 45 degree angle, so we supposed to believe that this was just another magical accident? Righttttt "So you're saying that the CIA/whoever had secret crews working to cut the floor supports or rig enough explosives to bring the buildings down and no one noticed? You're perfectly entitled to believe that but personally I believe that some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into those buildings and the resulting fire and impact damage is what made them come down its also slightly more plausable but less interesting...  | |||
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer.. sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far.. dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..? People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?! Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story. If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down. But, hey, that's just my opinion... Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right
Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.
True, but they're cut at a perfect 45 degree angle, so we supposed to believe that this was just another magical accident? Righttttt
So you're saying that the CIA/whoever had secret crews working to cut the floor supports or rig enough explosives to bring the buildings down and no one noticed?
You're perfectly entitled to believe that but personally I believe that some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into those buildings and the resulting fire and impact damage is what made them come down its also slightly more plausable but less interesting... "Google he documentary 'loose change' and 'William Rodriguez' he was a janitor of the WTC. In his lawsuit, Rodriguez made hundreds of allegations including allegations that the Twin Towers were destroyed by means of "controlled demolitions;"On September 11, Rodriguez told CNN that shortly before the plane hit the tower he was in the basement when: ...we hear like a big rumble. Not like an impact, like a rumble, like moving furniture in a massive way. And all of sudden we hear another rumble, and a guy comes running, running into our office, and all of skin was off his body. All of the skin. We went crazy, we started screaming, we told him to get out. We took everybody out of the office outside to the loading dock area. | |||
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. respect your right to believe what you want but if you think in the modern age where whistlblowers, FOI etc that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 could and would be kept secret as you infer.. sorry thats a conspiracy theory too far.. dont some US citizens also think they have been taken away by alien life forms also..? People have blown the whilste on what has happened in America. People can argue to toss all day long, the only thing they can't argue with is Physics. How does two builds, fall at free fall speed? Well it's impossible without the aid of explosives, as the floor below has to be removed before the floor above made contact with it. Because if you dropped a ball at the same time as the towers fell, the ball should hit the ground first, but it doesn't. Which proves there was an aid in bringing the building down, not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? Are we going to say the laws of physics are wrong?! Nope, the laws of physics are correct. The way they're applied, well that's a whole other story. If applied correctly, given the construction and condition of the WTC's and the impact site its clear that the planes and resulting fire brought those buildings down. But, hey, that's just my opinion... Lol right, because Kerosene burns hot enough to melt steel gurders, like the ones seen in the basement which are split in half.. Hmmmm right
Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.
True, but they're cut at a perfect 45 degree angle, so we supposed to believe that this was just another magical accident? Righttttt
So you're saying that the CIA/whoever had secret crews working to cut the floor supports or rig enough explosives to bring the buildings down and no one noticed?
You're perfectly entitled to believe that but personally I believe that some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into those buildings and the resulting fire and impact damage is what made them come down its also slightly more plausable but less interesting... "Actually they used a military compound called "Thermite", which is used to cut through large metal objects, which is why all of the metal which was left was shipped off to china and melted down, so no tests could be performed upon the metal to see if there were any traces of thermite or other metal melting compounds. Also in relation to the planes, they were unable to recover the blackboxes, which would give detailed information from the cockpit. But apparently they couldn't find them in the rubble.. Although they found a plane in the middle of the ocean miles below the surface.. Another righttttt | |||
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Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.
True, but they're cut at a perfect 45 degree angle, so we supposed to believe that this was just another magical accident? Righttttt
So you're saying that the CIA/whoever had secret crews working to cut the floor supports or rig enough explosives to bring the buildings down and no one noticed?
You're perfectly entitled to believe that but personally I believe that some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into those buildings and the resulting fire and impact damage is what made them come down its also slightly more plausable but less interesting...
Google he documentary 'loose change' and 'William Rodriguez' he was a janitor of the WTC. In his lawsuit, Rodriguez made hundreds of allegations including allegations that the Twin Towers were destroyed by means of "controlled demolitions;"On September 11, Rodriguez told CNN that shortly before the plane hit the tower he was in the basement when:
...we hear like a big rumble. Not like an impact, like a rumble, like moving furniture in a massive way. And all of sudden we hear another rumble, and a guy comes running, running into our office, and all of skin was off his body. All of the skin. We went crazy, we started screaming, we told him to get out. We took everybody out of the office outside to the loading dock area.
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Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible.
True, but they're cut at a perfect 45 degree angle, so we supposed to believe that this was just another magical accident? Righttttt
So you're saying that the CIA/whoever had secret crews working to cut the floor supports or rig enough explosives to bring the buildings down and no one noticed?
You're perfectly entitled to believe that but personally I believe that some terrorists hijacked some planes and flew them into those buildings and the resulting fire and impact damage is what made them come down its also slightly more plausable but less interesting...
Actually they used a military compound called "Thermite", which is used to cut through large metal objects, which is why all of the metal which was left was shipped off to china and melted down, so no tests could be performed upon the metal to see if there were any traces of thermite or other metal melting compounds.
Also in relation to the planes, they were unable to recover the blackboxes, which would give detailed information from the cockpit. But apparently they couldn't find them in the rubble.. Although they found a plane in the middle of the ocean miles below the surface.. Another righttttt "Lol, I know exactly what Thermite is as I've used it. And I'll tell you why they couldn't test for it. It's made of aluminium oxide and iron oxide. How could they differentiate what was parts of the buildings/planes from what was thermite residue. Black boxes can survive impacts with water and the ground. They couldn't survive an impact with a building, exposure to fire for over an hour and the collapse of those buildings and yet further exposure to fire/heat. Well they possibly could but its doubtful. Whatever the truth is, there will always be differing opinions, its what makes us all fun... | |||
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"Just another false flag in a long line of such acts to allow the establishment to take our freedoms away to keep us good little sheeple in our place... A man once said those that sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither .. Another man once said if you keep your eyes shut in the dark you will never see the light... " Couldn't have said it any better, keep people suppressed, and in routine with fear and ignorance. Don't question authority or you'll be labeled crazy or a conspiracy theorist, and the media has portrayed people who speak out against the Government as foolish or nut jobs. Because who owns the media, the Government does, because they're all in bed together, politicians, bankers, large corporation owners etc. They see themselves as above us, and want rid of us all as we are using up their resources. Hence the high levels of cancer and other diseases, which are caused by the foods we consume which are GMO, but you'll never find the Royals or Monsanto eating inorganic food. People need to wake up before its too late! | |||
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"Just another false flag in a long line of such acts to allow the establishment to take our freedoms away to keep us good little sheeple in our place... A man once said those that sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither .. Another man once said if you keep your eyes shut in the dark you will never see the light... Couldn't have said it any better, keep people suppressed, and in routine with fear and ignorance. Don't question authority or you'll be labeled crazy or a conspiracy theorist, and the media has portrayed people who speak out against the Government as foolish or nut jobs. Because who owns the media, the Government does, because they're all in bed together, politicians, bankers, large corporation owners etc. They see themselves as above us, and want rid of us all as we are using up their resources. Hence the high levels of cancer and other diseases, which are caused by the foods we consume which are GMO, but you'll never find the Royals or Monsanto eating inorganic food. People need to wake up before its too late! " so the very people who benefit from having a 'labour force' to keep them wealthy wish to destroy that which keeps them wealthy, does the jobs they dont want to do.. tricky one that.. | |||
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"Just another false flag in a long line of such acts to allow the establishment to take our freedoms away to keep us good little sheeple in our place... A man once said those that sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither .. Another man once said if you keep your eyes shut in the dark you will never see the light... Couldn't have said it any better, keep people suppressed, and in routine with fear and ignorance. Don't question authority or you'll be labeled crazy or a conspiracy theorist, and the media has portrayed people who speak out against the Government as foolish or nut jobs. Because who owns the media, the Government does, because they're all in bed together, politicians, bankers, large corporation owners etc. They see themselves as above us, and want rid of us all as we are using up their resources. Hence the high levels of cancer and other diseases, which are caused by the foods we consume which are GMO, but you'll never find the Royals or Monsanto eating inorganic food. People need to wake up before its too late! so the very people who benefit from having a 'labour force' to keep them wealthy wish to destroy that which keeps them wealthy, does the jobs they dont want to do.. tricky one that.." The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live  | |||
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. " No offence but your completely off your head if you belive it was anything but a terrorist attack. | |||
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" The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live "now you are stretching it fella, do you not think that well known philanthopist Bill Gates could if as you suggest 'decrease a population'.. not find a simpler more cost effective and efficient way of doing so.. than by spending millions curing preventable diseases..? | |||
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" The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live
now you are stretching it fella, do you not think that well known philanthopist Bill Gates could if as you suggest 'decrease a population'..
not find a simpler more cost effective and efficient way of doing so..
than by spending millions curing preventable diseases..?
"Yeah I'm pretty sure he could go over there with an AK-47 and go on a rampage, but wouldn't be good for his publicity. It has to be done in a fashion that is unsuspecting of the general public. What a perfect way, it's labelled as a vaccine to help people.. I mean if you don't think these people are weird, why do they attend bohemian grove every year to sit in front of a giant owl, and then burn an effigy?! These are world leaders attending this, large corporation owners, bankers, billionaires. And you think I'm crazy lol | |||
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. " Oh I do love a good fairy story story. Can we hear about the lizards next , then the illuminati and if we're really good can you tell us about the new world order. I love that one. Pleeeease tell us another story. | |||
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" The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live
now you are stretching it fella, do you not think that well known philanthopist Bill Gates could if as you suggest 'decrease a population'..
not find a simpler more cost effective and efficient way of doing so..
than by spending millions curing preventable diseases..?
Yeah I'm pretty sure he could go over there with an AK-47 and go on a rampage, but wouldn't be good for his publicity. It has to be done in a fashion that is unsuspecting of the general public. What a perfect way, it's labelled as a vaccine to help people..
I mean if you don't think these people are weird, why do they attend bohemian grove every year to sit in front of a giant owl, and then burn an effigy?! These are world leaders attending this, large corporation owners, bankers, billionaires. And you think I'm crazy lol" | |||
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" The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live "Now I know that this is a wind up | |||
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" The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live
now you are stretching it fella, do you not think that well known philanthopist Bill Gates could if as you suggest 'decrease a population'..
not find a simpler more cost effective and efficient way of doing so..
than by spending millions curing preventable diseases..?
Yeah I'm pretty sure he could go over there with an AK-47 and go on a rampage, but wouldn't be good for his publicity. It has to be done in a fashion that is unsuspecting of the general public. What a perfect way, it's labelled as a vaccine to help people..
I mean if you don't think these people are weird, why do they attend bohemian grove every year to sit in front of a giant owl, and then burn an effigy?! These are world leaders attending this, large corporation owners, bankers, billionaires. And you think I'm crazy lol"i dont think your crazy, have not said that.. but by fuck m8 some of your posts are only missing Scully and Mulder and that funny theme toon..? | |||
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"I'm a firm believer that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were orchestrated by the US and British Government. It was a great way to gain control of the population, people live in fear and rely on their Governments for protection from the big bad "Al Qaeda". Along with the aid of the media telling us all to be afraid and that the world is a big bad place, it starts to paint a very nasty picture. So, America invaded Iraq & Afghanistan, for oil, opium and natural gas. Just like what they're doing now to Syria, paying rebel forces to attack and then step in under humanitarian laws. So they can seize the land and rape it of its resources. People all over the world are waking up to this, over 1/3 of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. I mean world trade centre 7, collapses without a plane hitting it, and we're told that it burnt down and pancake collapsed... Right a solid steel building that collapses under flames, although other steel frame buildings have burnt for days on end and still left standing. Oh I do love a good fairy story story. Can we hear about the lizards next , then the illuminati and if we're really good can you tell us about the new world order. I love that one. Pleeeease tell us another story. " No I'm not David Icke, so you won't be hearing about lizards as that's rubbish, I'm here to discuss reality. Unfortunately for David Icke he discredits himself with silly lizard stories. The illuminati are real as is the NWO. | |||
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" The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live
now you are stretching it fella, do you not think that well known philanthopist Bill Gates could if as you suggest 'decrease a population'..
not find a simpler more cost effective and efficient way of doing so..
than by spending millions curing preventable diseases..?
Yeah I'm pretty sure he could go over there with an AK-47 and go on a rampage, but wouldn't be good for his publicity. It has to be done in a fashion that is unsuspecting of the general public. What a perfect way, it's labelled as a vaccine to help people..
I mean if you don't think these people are weird, why do they attend bohemian grove every year to sit in front of a giant owl, and then burn an effigy?! These are world leaders attending this, large corporation owners, bankers, billionaires. And you think I'm crazy lol
i dont think your crazy, have not said that..
but by fuck m8 some of your posts are only missing Scully and Mulder and that funny theme toon..?"I completely hand on heart understand, it's absurd to take it all in in one hit. This is why I encourage people to look into it themselves, because the information is ridiculously vast. Alot of it is shit, alot of it is real. Don't just listen to the media research it all for yourself!! | |||
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" Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible. Steel starts to lose its structural integrity at about 650c if i recall.. yes the steel in the building would have been clad with a fire protective covering but the test for said is not the impact of jet plane at x mph.. once the steel starts to lose its integrity it also expands which causes futher instability / pushing of other joins etc, it does not have to melt to do this .. with the impact of the plane and the added weight of said, weakening of the steels above by fire add in those destroyed by the impact and then the weight of the structure above and collapse was inevitable.." Thankyou... | |||
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" The idea behind the NWO (new world order) is to basically enslave the population and decrease it, so they have a work force to do what they wish but at significantly reduced levels. Money to these people like Bill Gates is meaningless, they have so much they've gone crazy. Why do you think he is behind vaccinations of Africa? Vaccines contain mercury which is poisonous to the body as its a heavy metal, and deposits on the brain. They're injecting new born babies with this shit, they're body isn't able to cope with it, hence the ridiculously high levels of autism everywhere!! Depopulation is their game and they're doing a fine job of it. Keep eating those GMO foods and getting cancer folks, don't ask questions, just do your job and be happy that we're letting you live
now you are stretching it fella, do you not think that well known philanthopist Bill Gates could if as you suggest 'decrease a population'..
not find a simpler more cost effective and efficient way of doing so..
than by spending millions curing preventable diseases..?
Yeah I'm pretty sure he could go over there with an AK-47 and go on a rampage, but wouldn't be good for his publicity. It has to be done in a fashion that is unsuspecting of the general public. What a perfect way, it's labelled as a vaccine to help people..
I mean if you don't think these people are weird, why do they attend bohemian grove every year to sit in front of a giant owl, and then burn an effigy?! These are world leaders attending this, large corporation owners, bankers, billionaires. And you think I'm crazy lol
i dont think your crazy, have not said that..
but by fuck m8 some of your posts are only missing Scully and Mulder and that funny theme toon..?
I completely hand on heart understand, it's absurd to take it all in in one hit. This is why I encourage people to look into it themselves, because the information is ridiculously vast. Alot of it is shit, alot of it is real. Don't just listen to the media research it all for yourself!!
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"It amuses me how I am willing to put forward credible explanations and yet arrogant people on here can only laugh and say its lies? Where's your argument to suggest its not. You keep being spoonfed bullshit, and when one of your loved ones is crushed in a building or bombed on a train, you keep shaking those sorry little hands at Al Qaeda. Ignorance is bliss, as the real world is a harsh reality. Cowards!" you have been given credible, relaible and proven reasons to counter some of your 'theories'.. that you choose not to accept them is your right.. that others choose to differ does not make anyone a coward.. that you seem to be spouting absolute cobblers about other things which are not only not proven but have a large element of fantasy within them is perhaps one reason you are not taken seriously.. | |||
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"It amuses me how I am willing to put forward credible explanations and yet arrogant people on here can only laugh and say its lies? Where's your argument to suggest its not. You keep being spoonfed bullshit, and when one of your loved ones is crushed in a building or bombed on a train, you keep shaking those sorry little hands at Al Qaeda. Ignorance is bliss, as the real world is a harsh reality. Cowards! you have been given credible, relaible and proven reasons to counter some of your 'theories'.. that you choose not to accept them is your right.. that others choose to differ does not make anyone a coward.. that you seem to be spouting absolute cobblers about other things which are not only not proven but have a large element of fantasy within them is perhaps one reason you are not taken seriously.." No, there have been some people to answer back to me with actual responses which I'm more than happy to debate upon, others have just been down right rude. I get no satisfaction out of coming on here and telling people that their own Government are conspiring against them, you honestly think I'd sit here and write a long message for no reason? I'm only trying to make people consider both sides of the argument and even do some of their own research, but people just can't seem to fathom that the Government would even do such things, which I completely understand as I was once the same, but until you've spent the amount of time researching things as I have you have no grounds to tell me I'm telling tales if you're not going to present any actual argument. | |||
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"It amuses me how I am willing to put forward credible explanations and yet arrogant people on here can only laugh and say its lies? Where's your argument to suggest its not. You keep being spoonfed bullshit, and when one of your loved ones is crushed in a building or bombed on a train, you keep shaking those sorry little hands at Al Qaeda. Ignorance is bliss, as the real world is a harsh reality. Cowards! you have been given credible, relaible and proven reasons to counter some of your 'theories'.. that you choose not to accept them is your right.. that others choose to differ does not make anyone a coward.. that you seem to be spouting absolute cobblers about other things which are not only not proven but have a large element of fantasy within them is perhaps one reason you are not taken seriously.. No, there have been some people to answer back to me with actual responses which I'm more than happy to debate upon, others have just been down right rude. I get no satisfaction out of coming on here and telling people that their own Government are conspiring against them, you honestly think I'd sit here and write a long message for no reason? I'm only trying to make people consider both sides of the argument and even do some of their own research, but people just can't seem to fathom that the Government would even do such things, which I completely understand as I was once the same, but until you've spent the amount of time researching things as I have you have no grounds to tell me I'm telling tales if you're not going to present any actual argument." your stuff about Bill Gates is the same fairy tale as Santa.. just my opinion, enlighten and educate me if you can.. where is this evidence, this fact..?? dont tell me to research it, tell us all here.. | |||
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" tell me I'm telling tales if you're not going to present any actual argument." refer you to mine and the other post about the effect of the impact of the planes into the WTC and the fire which developed on structural steel.. | |||
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" Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible. Steel starts to lose its structural integrity at about 650c if i recall.. yes the steel in the building would have been clad with a fire protective covering but the test for said is not the impact of jet plane at x mph.. once the steel starts to lose its integrity it also expands which causes futher instability / pushing of other joins etc, it does not have to melt to do this .. with the impact of the plane and the added weight of said, weakening of the steels above by fire add in those destroyed by the impact and then the weight of the structure above and collapse was inevitable.." Yes, but NOT AT FREE FALL SPEEDS! That would imply that there was 0% resistance on the building falling! Which can only mean that the floor below was blown out before the one above reached it, otherwise it's not physically possible! It defies the laws of physics. The floor above which the plane resides upon, would hit the floor below, then the floor below that and so on, which would mean it would hit resistance as there is still structural integrity within those floors, as the build is RC framed. Even still, explain WTC 7, how the hell did that collapse, no plane hit it, yet it pancake collapsed? | |||
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"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo!" Now who's sounding arrogant ? | |||
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" Who said anything about melting? Any metal exposed to prolonged high temperatures will soften and flex, which is what happened in the WTC. The floor supports softened enough for them to break free of their anchor points. Given the number of floors an weight above the point if impact its highly plausible. Steel starts to lose its structural integrity at about 650c if i recall.. yes the steel in the building would have been clad with a fire protective covering but the test for said is not the impact of jet plane at x mph.. once the steel starts to lose its integrity it also expands which causes futher instability / pushing of other joins etc, it does not have to melt to do this .. with the impact of the plane and the added weight of said, weakening of the steels above by fire add in those destroyed by the impact and then the weight of the structure above and collapse was inevitable.. Yes, but NOT AT FREE FALL SPEEDS! That would imply that there was 0% resistance on the building falling! Which can only mean that the floor below was blown out before the one above reached it, otherwise it's not physically possible! It defies the laws of physics. The floor above which the plane resides upon, would hit the floor below, then the floor below that and so on, which would mean it would hit resistance as there is still structural integrity within those floors, as the build is RC framed. Even still, explain WTC 7, how the hell did that collapse, no plane hit it, yet it pancake collapsed?" There's this radical thing called gravity... | |||
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" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? " simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one.. hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st.. the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it.. its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense.. to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la.. you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required... FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective.. | |||
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"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo! Now who's sounding arrogant ? The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother!" Rude & arrogant. Lovely traits for one so young. | |||
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"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo! Now who's sounding arrogant ? The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother!" Trouble is its not actual evidence, its just another conspiracy theory... | |||
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"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo! Now who's sounding arrogant ? The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother! Rude & arrogant. Lovely traits for one so young. " Perhaps if you weren't so condescending with your comments and actually act mature for somebody of your age you wouldn't get that kind of response, it's pathetic of you and Jayne! We're trying to debate here and we've got silly comments, that aren't necessary, if you have nothing constructive to add then say nothing, it's quite simple. | |||
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"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo! Now who's sounding arrogant ? The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother! Trouble is its not actual evidence, its just another conspiracy theory..." Well it's a damn sight better than your explanation, which was.. Nothing! | |||
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"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo! Now who's sounding arrogant ? The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother! Rude & arrogant. Lovely traits for one so young. Perhaps if you weren't so condescending with your comments and actually act mature for somebody of your age you wouldn't get that kind of response, it's pathetic of you and Jayne! We're trying to debate here and we've got silly comments, that aren't necessary, if you have nothing constructive to add then say nothing, it's quite simple. " But you conspiracy theorists are so easy to play with. | |||
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" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one.. hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st.. the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it.. its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense.. to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la.. you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required... FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective.. " Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete. The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly! | |||
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"http://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk Watch that and tell me it's NOT a controlled demolition. You must be the mental one if you believe that to not be a controlled demo! Now who's sounding arrogant ? The guy who's presented actual evidence something which you haven't so if you have nothing to contribute don't bother! Trouble is its not actual evidence, its just another conspiracy theory... Well it's a damn sight better than your explanation, which was.. Nothing!" Two jet planes, loaded with fuel and travelling at 400mph isn't a logical explanation then? Sure beats secret demo.experts placing shape.charges and thermite without anyone noticing and the fact it somehow survived the impact and.fie to be successfully detonate d | |||
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" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one.. hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st.. the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it.. its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense.. to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la.. you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required... FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective.. Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete. The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly!" pretty au fait with the terminology and the kit having used it and not only read about it on some web site fella.. will agree to disagree.. not building a safe room just yet mind..  | |||
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" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one.. hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st.. the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it.. its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense.. to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la.. you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required... FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective.. Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete. The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly!" Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around. A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun... | |||
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"I'd like to know who dropped the ball off the top of WTC when it started to collapse and did they find said ball?" You mean to tell me that some skiving sod was playing basketball on the roof when the planes hit? | |||
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" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one.. hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st.. the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it.. its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense.. to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la.. you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required... FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective.. Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete. The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly! Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around. A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun..." No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames. And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun | |||
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" there was people seen where the plane had impacted so the flames couldn't have been that severe? " think they were tbh, severe enough to force people to jump in any case.. | |||
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" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one.. hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st.. the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it.. its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense.. to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la.. you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required... FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective.. Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete. The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly! Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around. A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun... No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames. And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun" But the building collapsed from the top, the whole world watched it happen. There were no charges 100 floors down or anywhere else. The floors gave way and couldn't support the floors above which caused a domino effect, simple. Oh, I've set more shaped demo charges in my time than I care to remember too... | |||
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" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one.. hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st.. the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it.. its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense.. to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la.. you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required... FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective.. Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete. The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly! Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around. A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun... No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames. And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun But the building collapsed from the top, the whole world watched it happen. There were no charges 100 floors down or anywhere else. The floors gave way and couldn't support the floors above which caused a domino effect, simple. Oh, I've set more shaped demo charges in my time than I care to remember too..." There is footage of squibs exploding from the side of the building moments before its brought down! You can see it for yourself. And I'm sure you have alongside your firearm certificates | |||
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" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one.. hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st.. the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it.. its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense.. to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la.. you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required... FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective.. Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete. The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly! Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around. A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun... No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames. And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun" As you worked for a demolition contractor please feel free to explain how WTC7 which was not hit by a plane and fell totally into its own foot print at almost terminal gravity velocity which happened hours after the twin towers came down and was filmed from a few different angles the inquiry it's self seemed to forget all about this building I wonder why ... | |||
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" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one.. hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st.. the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it.. its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense.. to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la.. you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required... FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective.. Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete. The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly! Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around. A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun... No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames. And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun But the building collapsed from the top, the whole world watched it happen. There were no charges 100 floors down or anywhere else. The floors gave way and couldn't support the floors above which caused a domino effect, simple. Oh, I've set more shaped demo charges in my time than I care to remember too... There is footage of squibs exploding from the side of the building moments before its brought down! You can see it for yourself. And I'm sure you have alongside your firearm certificates " That's air being pushed out by the floors above collapsing. I'll ignore the last part, as you know nothing about me... | |||
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" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one.. hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st.. the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it.. its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense.. to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la.. you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required... FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective.. Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete. The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly! Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around. A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun... No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames. And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun As you worked for a demolition contractor please feel free to explain how WTC7 which was not hit by a plane and fell totally into its own foot print at almost terminal gravity velocity which happened hours after the twin towers came down and was filmed from a few different angles the inquiry it's self seemed to forget all about this building I wonder why ..." The central column is blown out so that the build does not fall outwards towards any neighbouring buildings that's stand practise, shortly after you would detonate all other remaining columns so there is no structural support remaining in the building, bringing it down in a pancake fashion. Fire alone would not be sufficient to bring this building down, intact you can see the building crimp, which is the initial central column being blown. Also here is a video of the squibs from the Twin Towers: http://youtu.be/3gKv-6bivqo | |||
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" not to mention the squibs you see (air pockets) that are seen exploding out of the windows floors below whilst the building collapses. How do you explain that? simple experiment, take 2 equal sized pieces of mdf place some talc or flour on the top of the bottom one.. hold the 2nd one parralel to the first and drop it onto the 1st.. the displaced air wil be pushed outward, the flour will show it.. its very simple, may even be physics or probably just common sense.. to say that the towers were set with a demolition ring main and shaped cutting charges were used to drop them is la la.. you cant build that sort of system into a building without it being noticed as it has to be on the steel, and you cant sneak in overnight to do so on the scale and size required... FYI when cutting steel the shaped charge has to be flush to the steel to be fully effective.. Yes you would be correct if the build had collapsed onto a floor below which was completely flat as well, and didn't have structural core columns and reinforced concrete. The term squibs is a term used in the demolition industry as pockets of air which are seen when a building is demoed, as the force of the explosion pushes the air out. And actually you can paint thermite on and it dries as a clear resin and then when lit is extremely deadly! Thermite would have ignited the second the planes struck and would have been seen for miles around. A squib is a small explosive charge, nothing to do with air pockets keep going though, this is fun... No it wouldn't have as it could have been set on the columns in the basement, which didn't come in to contact with flames. And I'm fully aware of what a squib is having worked for a demolition contractor, but keep going it is fun As you worked for a demolition contractor please feel free to explain how WTC7 which was not hit by a plane and fell totally into its own foot print at almost terminal gravity velocity which happened hours after the twin towers came down and was filmed from a few different angles the inquiry it's self seemed to forget all about this building I wonder why ... The central column is blown out so that the build does not fall outwards towards any neighbouring buildings that's stand practise, shortly after you would detonate all other remaining columns so there is no structural support remaining in the building, bringing it down in a pancake fashion. " The problem with that theory is there were no central columns as such it was an exterior skeleton of steel and aluminium which supported the bulk of the weight as the twin towers needed to sway slightly in the wind. So blowout theory busted im afraid. | |||
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"At the risk of becoming part of the conspiracy theory Ive removed posts...." Steel posts? From the towers???! 
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"Funny enough FEMA was in town the night before 9/11 (federal emergency management agency) and were running drills on terrorism.. Funny that Also funny that the Government were running mock terror drills on 7/7 on the exact same stations at the exact same time as the real bombings.. Hmm how odd - http://youtu.be/sEbUQiYOGjU Also Sandy Hooks shooting, funny enough another drill was being run the exact same day, at the exact same time 20 minutes away from the location of the school, the drill this time was for "children's danger in emergency attacks". Hmm very odd - http://youtu.be/VrngdgUixYg I mean how the hell do you even explain that? What all three by chance were running drills that exact same day at the exact same time for the exact reason that had happened. Anyone smell that coffee yet?" So what was the motif for the American government to kill all those children at sandy hook ? | |||
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"Funny enough FEMA was in town the night before 9/11 (federal emergency management agency) and were running drills on terrorism.. Funny that Also funny that the Government were running mock terror drills on 7/7 on the exact same stations at the exact same time as the real bombings.. Hmm how odd - http://youtu.be/sEbUQiYOGjU Also Sandy Hooks shooting, funny enough another drill was being run the exact same day, at the exact same time 20 minutes away from the location of the school, the drill this time was for "children's danger in emergency attacks". Hmm very odd - http://youtu.be/VrngdgUixYg I mean how the hell do you even explain that? What all three by chance were running drills that exact same day at the exact same time for the exact reason that had happened. Anyone smell that coffee yet?" And just after a little research the same professor that suggested that Sandy Hook was a Drill is now saying the Boston Bombings is a drill. So if you want to belief the nutty professor that's up to. Be careful posting in public forums though because it may be you they come after next. | |||
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"Only a matter of time before we are hit again in the UK I fear.....
True.
And it seems like nothing is done about it
Even the russian president warned UK about being the heaven for all sort of wanna be terrorist
Oh I think plenty is being done about it....we just don't hear about it."Exactly that, as terrorism is to cause fear. The less you hear about it the less it works. If it was plastered everywhere when a plot had been foiled. They would still be winning as everyone would be fearing the next attack. Or that's how I think it works anyway | |||
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"Funny enough FEMA was in town the night before 9/11 (federal emergency management agency) and were running drills on terrorism.. Funny that Also funny that the Government were running mock terror drills on 7/7 on the exact same stations at the exact same time as the real bombings.. Hmm how odd - http://youtu.be/sEbUQiYOGjU Also Sandy Hooks shooting, funny enough another drill was being run the exact same day, at the exact same time 20 minutes away from the location of the school, the drill this time was for "children's danger in emergency attacks". Hmm very odd - http://youtu.be/VrngdgUixYg I mean how the hell do you even explain that? What all three by chance were running drills that exact same day at the exact same time for the exact reason that had happened. Anyone smell that coffee yet?" drills are being held all the time,can you name all the times there have been drills with no major event following? it never ceases to amaze me at some of the quotes from 9/11 hoax believers. the idea of having a rational discussion with them is impossible because rationality went down the drain along time ago with them. 'there were explosions' haha,the building was on bloody fire,what else do you expect. 'the building should have fell like a tree' the speed of the collapse would not allow anything but fall straight down on its self. 'it wouldnt have been that hot above the impact site' ever been in a building fire? its bloody hot,even in full fire kit. one thing the conspiracy nuts do give good entertainment | |||
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