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"I’ve been told I say the weirdest shit if someone tries to engage in conversation with me at that point " It certainly lifted her from her hormonal and slightly dark mood - she was crying and shaking with laughter for the next 20 minutes 💁♂️. So I suppose I did a good thing xx | |||
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"A wobabob bob " I do whole sentences though. They make perfect sense in terms of nouns, verbs etc. They just...make no sense sense 🫤. | |||
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"I get super fucking horny at that point. " Do you "come back into the room" and act on the horniness? Or do a strange horny disappearance into sleep? | |||
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"I feel paralysed, trying to move or jostle myself out of that intermediate state, but unable to. I either fall back into my slumber or awaken. Usually the latter. It's not pleasant." That genuinely sounds unpleasant. I wouldn't enjoy it. Sorry you go through that Nero. | |||
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"I’ve been told I say the weirdest shit if someone tries to engage in conversation with me at that point " Also  ...I feel we need an example from you   | |||
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"I used to love talking to a partner when they were in this stage. I would question what they meant, and some of the nonsense reasoning they would say was hilarious " She would do the same to me. Gathered about 4 or 5 classic "wtf!"s and another dozen that were quite funny. I can't remember any now apart from "I'm dying/draught excluder will save you" though . | |||
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"Drifting in and out of sleep Is my favourite state to be I can see you next to me And it is lovely Sleep drifter, sleep drifter I can feel you touch me And I can hear you breathing Please no one wake me When I'm sleep drifting King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - flying Microtonal Banana" They nailed it - unlike poor Nero, I always really enjoyed it. | |||
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"I used to love talking to a partner when they were in this stage. I would question what they meant, and some of the nonsense reasoning they would say was hilarious She would do the same to me. Gathered about 4 or 5 classic "wtf!"s and another dozen that were quite funny. I can't remember any now apart from "I'm dying/draught excluder will save you" though ."Maybe a draft excluder was related to the bumpussy beginnings | |||
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"My husband does this and it absolutely cracks me up. I've had ; "Stop looking at me like that I'm not touching you" (I had shook him because he was snoring) "I need to park the tractor in the shed it's raining " (we don't own a tractor) "I can't hear you I'm in France" (He has never been in France) "Noooo! This is not my bed!!" (It was his bed) This is a regular occurrence in this house🤣" I think I want to marry your husband Em 💙💜. This is EXACTLY the level I work on xxxx | |||
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"My husband does this and it absolutely cracks me up. I've had ; "Stop looking at me like that I'm not touching you" (I had shook him because he was snoring) "I need to park the tractor in the shed it's raining " (we don't own a tractor) "I can't hear you I'm in France" (He has never been in France) "Noooo! This is not my bed!!" (It was his bed) This is a regular occurrence in this house🤣 I think I want to marry your husband Em 💙💜. This is EXACTLY the level I work on xxxx" It's endlessly entertaining 🤣🤣 | |||
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"I see images and scenes, not of my willing nor summoning that appear in my minds eye. The inception of a dream if you will; they are frequently, really quite random! 😱 " It's a weird but (I find) quite pleasant place. Does your body feel warm, fuzzy, and happy too? | |||
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"I used to love talking to a partner when they were in this stage. I would question what they meant, and some of the nonsense reasoning they would say was hilarious She would do the same to me. Gathered about 4 or 5 classic "wtf!"s and another dozen that were quite funny. I can't remember any now apart from "I'm dying/draught excluder will save you" though .
Maybe a draft excluder was related to the bumpussy beginnings "
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"I've told someone to "take off my peep-toe shoes." "Put down my pineapple." "seat belt on now!" "I'm late for school, let's go to Spain" " I'm reading yours and Em's husband's and I wish you could see how much I'm laughing. It's just...something else, right? 🥰 xxx | |||
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"I see images and scenes, not of my willing nor summoning that appear in my minds eye. The inception of a dream if you will; they are frequently, really quite random! 😱 It's a weird but (I find) quite pleasant place. Does your body feel warm, fuzzy, and happy too?" Sometimes yes, but the sudden realisation of being in said state also often jars me fully awake once again 😵💫 | |||
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"I've told someone to "take off my peep-toe shoes." "Put down my pineapple." "seat belt on now!" "I'm late for school, let's go to Spain" I'm reading yours and Em's husband's and I wish you could see how much I'm laughing. It's just...something else, right? 🥰 xxx"So if, for example, I had said your "put down my pineapple" one - there would have been ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT in my mind, as I said it, that I had a real pineapple. It was mine, and I was proud of that. And someone had taken it! How dare they! Did they ask? No they didn't! So put down my pineapple! And often, I'd realise I said something bonkers, and catch myself with a "wtf did I just say" and look at her...and we'd both die in tears of laughter. It's so.....real. And so mad  xx | |||
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"I see images and scenes, not of my willing nor summoning that appear in my minds eye. The inception of a dream if you will; they are frequently, really quite random! 😱 It's a weird but (I find) quite pleasant place. Does your body feel warm, fuzzy, and happy too? Sometimes yes, but the sudden realisation of being in said state also often jars me fully awake once again 😵💫" And unpleasant? Like Nero's experience? | |||
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"I tend to jolt awake, with the sensation that I’m about to fall out of bed. " I do that in front of the telly. I find it quite an unpleasant feeling being jerked back to a waking state. | |||
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"I see images and scenes, not of my willing nor summoning that appear in my minds eye. The inception of a dream if you will; they are frequently, really quite random! 😱 It's a weird but (I find) quite pleasant place. Does your body feel warm, fuzzy, and happy too? Sometimes yes, but the sudden realisation of being in said state also often jars me fully awake once again 😵💫 And unpleasant? Like Nero's experience?" I’ve never personally experienced the pre-slumber paralysis Nero mentioned thankfully, rather the unpleasantness for me is mainly derived from being pulled out from this beautiful, dreamlike state by jolting myself awake ☹️ | |||
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"I tend to jolt awake, with the sensation that I’m about to fall out of bed. " Are you about to fall out of bed? Or is it the transition between "heavy consciousness" and "weightless unconsciousness" and your consciousness catches a moment of confusion/mismatch before it could let go fully? | |||
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"I tend to jolt awake, with the sensation that I’m about to fall out of bed. Are you about to fall out of bed? Or is it the transition between "heavy consciousness" and "weightless unconsciousness" and your consciousness catches a moment of confusion/mismatch before it could let go fully?" The second bit. I star fish in bed! | |||
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"I see images and scenes, not of my willing nor summoning that appear in my minds eye. The inception of a dream if you will; they are frequently, really quite random! 😱 It's a weird but (I find) quite pleasant place. Does your body feel warm, fuzzy, and happy too? Sometimes yes, but the sudden realisation of being in said state also often jars me fully awake once again 😵💫 And unpleasant? Like Nero's experience? I’ve never personally experienced the pre-slumber paralysis Nero mentioned thankfully, rather the unpleasantness for me is mainly derived from being pulled out from this beautiful, dreamlike state by jolting myself awake ☹️ " It is a bit beautiful isn't it 💜💙. I wish Nero could experience it 😕 | |||
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"I tend to jolt awake, with the sensation that I’m about to fall out of bed. I do that in front of the telly. I find it quite an unpleasant feeling being jerked back to a waking state." I think I must be quite lucky - I can "jolt" back a bit, but it's never unpleasant as such. | |||
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"I tend to jolt awake, with the sensation that I’m about to fall out of bed. Are you about to fall out of bed? Or is it the transition between "heavy consciousness" and "weightless unconsciousness" and your consciousness catches a moment of confusion/mismatch before it could let go fully? The second bit. I star fish in bed! " Got it - thanks Luna xxxx | |||
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"One night when I had the flu and was in this state, I became convinced that my husband was holding his hand over my nose and mouth, trying to suffocate me. It happened four or five times that night. Poor bloke was baffled "😬😬😬😬 Blimey - loads of unpleasant experiences here. I thought it was all tractors, pineapples, and draught excluders 💁♂️ | |||
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"Also - Willy mentioned something. Not only can the person say something bonkers, but if you catch them right, you can then get 3 or 4 sentences out of them explaining that bonkers, with even more bonkers sentences that don't relate to each other (but make perfect sense to the person saying them...somehow) It's a whole journey "Ever had them get frustrated with you for not understanding something so obviously logical? | |||
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"One night when I had the flu and was in this state, I became convinced that my husband was holding his hand over my nose and mouth, trying to suffocate me. It happened four or five times that night. Poor bloke was baffled
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Blimey - loads of unpleasant experiences here.
I thought it was all tractors, pineapples, and draught excluders 💁♂️"I think being ill was responsible for the weirdness in that particular case, Nicky. Normally it's trauma-free things like "the kittens have climbed the curtains again!" when I don't have any kittens. | |||
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"Also - Willy mentioned something. Not only can the person say something bonkers, but if you catch them right, you can then get 3 or 4 sentences out of them explaining that bonkers, with even more bonkers sentences that don't relate to each other (but make perfect sense to the person saying them...somehow) It's a whole journey
Ever had them get frustrated with you for not understanding something so obviously logical?"
I learned very quickly with my Mum's Alzheimer's to just let her/them run with it .
Doolally but happy was better than doolally and conflicted xx | |||
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"My late wife used to do this sort of thing a lot. But the episode that sticks in my mind was actually perpetrated by me. We hadn't been living together long and one half asleep evening, falling asleep in bed, she mischievously asked me what I was getting her for her birthday. I told her it was a gold necklace with diamonds. She asked how I was going to pay from it , and I told her I'd sell my car. 😳 She thought it was hilarious and used to bring it up regularly. 🤣" You know you're impossibly cute sometimes Davina x | |||
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"One night when I had the flu and was in this state, I became convinced that my husband was holding his hand over my nose and mouth, trying to suffocate me. It happened four or five times that night. Poor bloke was baffled
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Blimey - loads of unpleasant experiences here.
I thought it was all tractors, pineapples, and draught excluders 💁♂️
I think being ill was responsible for the weirdness in that particular case, Nicky. Normally it's trauma-free things like "the kittens have climbed the curtains again!" when I don't have any kittens." (but you damned well did have them at the precise moment you said it, right?) | |||
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"I can tell you my daughters story she had to have been 13 at the time she'd slept in till after dinner and told her grandad, mam didn't even check I was still alive, to which she said I could of died of chlamydia grandad, he looked at her rather perplexed and said what, she replied you know when you die being too cold, he said that's hypothermia we have laughed at it every time we remember it she's 27 now"  I'm never having an afternoon nap again if it gives me chlamydia xx | |||
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"I can tell you my daughters story she had to have been 13 at the time she'd slept in till after dinner and told her grandad, mam didn't even check I was still alive, to which she said I could of died of chlamydia grandad, he looked at her rather perplexed and said what, she replied you know when you die being too cold, he said that's hypothermia we have laughed at it every time we remember it she's 27 now I'm never having an afternoon nap again if it gives me chlamydia xx"Same it was so funny but she's a dumb blonde at times | |||
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"Gesundheit! No, seriously. That bit between being awake and falling asleep. What weird things happen to you? I say weird stuff. My then partner, awake: "One day I'll die of something horrible". Me, in a profoundly hypnagogic state: "No you won't. I'm fitting a draught excluder to the kitchen door"*. 🤷🤷🤷 *There is nothing in this universe that links my reply sensibly to her statement. Nor was I fitting any draught excluders anywhere, then or now. " I sometimes see weird shit when I wake up, for example sometimes my screensaver is different or rather changed. Or the time on the clock is different, this morning it made me 3 hours early for work. 🤣 Could be on about the wrong thing. | |||
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"Gesundheit! No, seriously. That bit between being awake and falling asleep. What weird things happen to you? I say weird stuff. My then partner, awake: "One day I'll die of something horrible". Me, in a profoundly hypnagogic state: "No you won't. I'm fitting a draught excluder to the kitchen door"*. 🤷🤷🤷 *There is nothing in this universe that links my reply sensibly to her statement. Nor was I fitting any draught excluders anywhere, then or now. I sometimes see weird shit when I wake up, for example sometimes my screensaver is different or rather changed. Or the time on the clock is different, this morning it made me 3 hours early for work. 🤣 Could be on about the wrong thing. " Either that or you do genuinely live in two separate universes which jumble around with each other | |||
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"Early in my marriage my husband asked me a question whilst I was in this state and I replied “it’s the bees” 🐝 For the entirety of the remainder of our union, whenever we didn’t know the answer to a question we would reply to the other “it’s the bees” We divorced last year*. "*it was the bees 🐝 xxxx | |||
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"They were too busy to do anything about it?"
Sneaky - I approve xx | |||
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"Gesundheit! No, seriously. That bit between being awake and falling asleep. What weird things happen to you? I say weird stuff. My then partner, awake: "One day I'll die of something horrible". Me, in a profoundly hypnagogic state: "No you won't. I'm fitting a draught excluder to the kitchen door"*. 🤷🤷🤷 *There is nothing in this universe that links my reply sensibly to her statement. Nor was I fitting any draught excluders anywhere, then or now. I sometimes see weird shit when I wake up, for example sometimes my screensaver is different or rather changed. Or the time on the clock is different, this morning it made me 3 hours early for work. 🤣 Could be on about the wrong thing. Either that or you do genuinely live in two separate universes which jumble around with each other "Maybe, it's usually when I've literally just woken up, so it would make sense for it to look different. | |||
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"Gesundheit! No, seriously. That bit between being awake and falling asleep. What weird things happen to you? I say weird stuff. My then partner, awake: "One day I'll die of something horrible". Me, in a profoundly hypnagogic state: "No you won't. I'm fitting a draught excluder to the kitchen door"*. 🤷🤷🤷 *There is nothing in this universe that links my reply sensibly to her statement. Nor was I fitting any draught excluders anywhere, then or now. I sometimes see weird shit when I wake up, for example sometimes my screensaver is different or rather changed. Or the time on the clock is different, this morning it made me 3 hours early for work. 🤣 Could be on about the wrong thing. Either that or you do genuinely live in two separate universes which jumble around with each other
Maybe, it's usually when I've literally just woken up, so it would make sense for it to look different.
"Yeah - it is part of hypnagogia. I just liked the idea of an "Everything Everywhere All At Once" scenario. Great movie  . | |||
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"From an ex I have had: What time is the plane getting here? Clean the bath (I taken the bath out n put in a walk in shower years earlier) Go and feed the sheep (2 bed semi not a fkn farm) Who are you? Where is my passport? But most of the time is was incoherent ramblings " Go and feed the sheep is other level stuff | |||
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"I remember the Mrs asking me a question and I replied “Don’t forget to ask Frank for the fiver he owes me” I don’t know a Frank. I certainly don’t lend anyone money. When she asked what the fuck I was on about I doubled down exclaiming “Bet you thought I was sleep talking, didn’t you?” She never asked if I ever got the fiver back 🤔"
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"Gesundheit! No, seriously. That bit between being awake and falling asleep. What weird things happen to you? I say weird stuff. My then partner, awake: "One day I'll die of something horrible". Me, in a profoundly hypnagogic state: "No you won't. I'm fitting a draught excluder to the kitchen door"*. 🤷🤷🤷 *There is nothing in this universe that links my reply sensibly to her statement. Nor was I fitting any draught excluders anywhere, then or now. " The only time I’ve acted anything out was once I tried to hug and kiss a surgeon as he woke me up from surgery. It was nearly 30 years ago and the semi memory still cripples me with embarrassment | |||
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"When my kids were very young and both fast asleep they would talk to each other in a non-existant language across the landing. " This sort of thing fascinates me. Twins in particular are famous for it. Are they twins too? I bet you and their Mum couldn't stop smiling to yourselves - it's impossibly cute 🤗🤗🤗. | |||
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"Gesundheit! No, seriously. That bit between being awake and falling asleep. What weird things happen to you? I say weird stuff. My then partner, awake: "One day I'll die of something horrible". Me, in a profoundly hypnagogic state: "No you won't. I'm fitting a draught excluder to the kitchen door"*. 🤷🤷🤷 *There is nothing in this universe that links my reply sensibly to her statement. Nor was I fitting any draught excluders anywhere, then or now. The only time I’ve acted anything out was once I tried to hug and kiss a surgeon as he woke me up from surgery. It was nearly 30 years ago and the semi memory still cripples me with embarrassment " You may have been embarrassed, but he wanked out on the memory of it for years!!  xxxx | |||
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"Gesundheit! No, seriously. That bit between being awake and falling asleep. What weird things happen to you? I say weird stuff. My then partner, awake: "One day I'll die of something horrible". Me, in a profoundly hypnagogic state: "No you won't. I'm fitting a draught excluder to the kitchen door"*. 🤷🤷🤷 *There is nothing in this universe that links my reply sensibly to her statement. Nor was I fitting any draught excluders anywhere, then or now. " I'm going to evaluate your sub conscious, you were dreaming about your drafty old house that needs so many improvements including the drafts and were mid flow of fitting it (in your dream you're a professional) she somehow woke you up saying " I'm going to die of something horrible " you however replied with " the draft excluder repair thingy"So my evaluation ,you were not concerned about your wife's horrible death but more concerned about your cold feet . My cure wear thick socks around the house . | |||
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"Gesundheit! No, seriously. That bit between being awake and falling asleep. What weird things happen to you? I say weird stuff. My then partner, awake: "One day I'll die of something horrible". Me, in a profoundly hypnagogic state: "No you won't. I'm fitting a draught excluder to the kitchen door"*. 🤷🤷🤷 *There is nothing in this universe that links my reply sensibly to her statement. Nor was I fitting any draught excluders anywhere, then or now. I'm going to evaluate your sub conscious, you were dreaming about your drafty old house that needs so many improvements including the drafts and were mid flow of fitting it (in your dream you're a professional) she somehow woke you up saying " I'm going to die of something horrible " you however replied with " the draft excluder repair thingy"So my evaluation ,you were not concerned about your wife's horrible death but more concerned about your cold feet . My cure wear thick socks around the house ." Nice theory...but my flat is too warm if anything (windows open most of the time). Plus I prefer to have cold feet. Aaaand....I was clearly concerned about her welfare - my draught excluder was going to save her 🙃🙃🙃 | |||
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"Gesundheit! No, seriously. That bit between being awake and falling asleep. What weird things happen to you? I say weird stuff. My then partner, awake: "One day I'll die of something horrible". Me, in a profoundly hypnagogic state: "No you won't. I'm fitting a draught excluder to the kitchen door"*. 🤷🤷🤷 *There is nothing in this universe that links my reply sensibly to her statement. Nor was I fitting any draught excluders anywhere, then or now. I'm going to evaluate your sub conscious, you were dreaming about your drafty old house that needs so many improvements including the drafts and were mid flow of fitting it (in your dream you're a professional) she somehow woke you up saying " I'm going to die of something horrible " you however replied with " the draft excluder repair thingy"So my evaluation ,you were not concerned about your wife's horrible death but more concerned about your cold feet . My cure wear thick socks around the house . Nice theory...but my flat is too warm if anything (windows open most of the time). Plus I prefer to have cold feet. Aaaand....I was clearly concerned about her welfare - my draught excluder was going to save her 🙃🙃🙃"Lies all lies . | |||
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"Gesundheit! No, seriously. That bit between being awake and falling asleep. What weird things happen to you? I say weird stuff. My then partner, awake: "One day I'll die of something horrible". Me, in a profoundly hypnagogic state: "No you won't. I'm fitting a draught excluder to the kitchen door"*. 🤷🤷🤷 *There is nothing in this universe that links my reply sensibly to her statement. Nor was I fitting any draught excluders anywhere, then or now. I'm going to evaluate your sub conscious, you were dreaming about your drafty old house that needs so many improvements including the drafts and were mid flow of fitting it (in your dream you're a professional) she somehow woke you up saying " I'm going to die of something horrible " you however replied with " the draft excluder repair thingy"So my evaluation ,you were not concerned about your wife's horrible death but more concerned about your cold feet . My cure wear thick socks around the house . Nice theory...but my flat is too warm if anything (windows open most of the time). Plus I prefer to have cold feet. Aaaand....I was clearly concerned about her welfare - my draught excluder was going to save her 🙃🙃🙃Lies all lies ." | |||
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"I feel like I’m missing out. I’ve never experienced this, either myself or with a partner. I have always been fascinated by the concept of sleep paralysis though. Have you heard about the old lady sitting on your chest and suffocating you, while a little boy cries in corner? Unconnected people all over the world have experienced the same thing in that state. Weird!! " I have heard of them now you’ve mentioned it .
And, if it's that shared, that fits very nicely in with Carl Jung's theories of archetypes and the collective unconscious.
Which is a large part of my thinking/work over the last 15 years (Jung, Pauli, Bohm...I'll bore you more if you want...but run away now. It's safer ) | |||
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