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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

We keep being told that people have no need to be on benefits as there are loads of jobs around. But I just read a news report about 4,300 people applying for just 150 jobs at a Tesco due to open in Hampshire, and this is not the first of such reports I have read recently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and most of the jobs available dont pay a living wage .whoever came out with this drivel that there are jobs out there is clearly not living in the real world

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"and most of the jobs available dont pay a living wage .whoever came out with this drivel that there are jobs out there is clearly not living in the real world"
that be your prime minster

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"and most of the jobs available dont pay a living wage .whoever came out with this drivel that there are jobs out there is clearly not living in the real world"

A lot of the jobs on offer are either part time - which means people still need benefits, or minimum wage which no one can live on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This just reminded me of something I saw the other day

'20 years ago, we had Johnny Cash, Bob Hope and Steve Jobs.

Now we have no cash, no hope and no jobs,

Please do not let Kevin Bacon die'

Valid point though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We keep being told that people have no need to be on benefits as there are loads of jobs around. But I just read a news report about 4,300 people applying for just 150 jobs at a Tesco due to open in Hampshire, and this is not the first of such reports I have read recently."

It's all old news but the government refuses to see the truth. Like you say; 150 jobs. Wow that is a lot for a Tesco but not for a town, especially with thousands applying for the same job.

That should make you wonder how many unemployed people DIDNT apply for it because they need better pay etc.

The government actually takes the statistics from people refused benefits or kicked off them to imply that those who arent earning benefits are actually in work, so its also a false statistic when they consider that two thirds of the country are employed and one third isn't. Of course you have to take children and pensioners into account also but they don't know what they're doing and their research is fixed, so dont believe it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the unemployment figures have been fiddled for decades they just move the unemployed onto other benefits to make it look like the unemployed figure is going down but of course we all know its not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the unemployment figures have been fiddled for decades they just move the unemployed onto other benefits to make it look like the unemployed figure is going down but of course we all know its not"

Absolutely, and of course you know who suffers for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"and most of the jobs available dont pay a living wage .whoever came out with this drivel that there are jobs out there is clearly not living in the real world"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My friend totted up the amount of jobs he's applied for in the last 6 months - it came to 453, so far he's been offered 1 interview. He didn't get the job. He's being threatened by the job centre regarding benefits but can't see what else he can do. He can't even get a cleaning job for minimum wage.

When I was a recruitment manager we had 300+ applications for just 2 basic admin posts. The year previously we would have been lucky to have had 50 applications for the same 2 jobs. In today's economytThe odds are so stacked against you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

had 1 for a part time I pass not heard for 6 weeks as its still in screening stage

how long dose it take really

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

It's a government driven myth that there are up to half a million job vacancies at any given time, when Next opened a store in Newton Abbot last year they advertised 54 jobs and had well over a Thousand applicants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff "

In the main they will be part time....probably all but Two or Three positions will be 20 hours or under.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

In the main they will be part time....probably all but Two or Three positions will be 20 hours or under."

More subsidised wages then

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff "

Shifts and behind the scenes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would a zero hour contract mean you were employed? I'm aware these type of casual contracts are becoming more prevalent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the end of the summer I'm moving to Jeopardy..... There's thousands of jobs there...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At the end of the summer I'm moving to Jeopardy..... There's thousands of jobs there... "

Our economy is there as well according to the news

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I think there are 23 job seekers for every job vacancy, even I can see that menas 22 people each time will be disappointed.

Its in the governments interests for people to believe that unemployment is down to laziness it keeps the electorate from asking awkward questions.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

In the main they will be part time....probably all but Two or Three positions will be 20 hours or under.

More subsidised wages then "

I should imagine they are mainly women who are working around their children's school hours....or should we ban women from going back to work and supplementing the family income?

I for one am happy to see so many 'housewives' and mothers have been released from the shackles of 1960's views on women working.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff "

They need that many to cover 7 day 8 am til 8pm opening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You mean the company can get its wage bill topped up with tax credits.

Nothing to do with women loosing shackles, that happened decades ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

They need that many to cover 7 day 8 am til 8pm opening."

Not one shop in England opens 8am til 8pm 7 days a week.

Its against the law.................

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

They need that many to cover 7 day 8 am til 8pm opening.

Not one shop in England opens 8am til 8pm 7 days a week.

Its against the law................."
we got asda 24 hours opening

nisa opens till 11pm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

They need that many to cover 7 day 8 am til 8pm opening.

Not one shop in England opens 8am til 8pm 7 days a week.

Its against the law.................we got asda 24 hours opening

nisa opens till 11pm

"

Name the Asda store in England that opens 12 hours on a Sunday ???????

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

They need that many to cover 7 day 8 am til 8pm opening.

Not one shop in England opens 8am til 8pm 7 days a week.

Its against the law................."

You are right, my mistake.

6 days a week 8 til 8 and one day a week 10 til 4.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Your assumption that no shop opens Seven days a week from 9am till midnight in England is factually incorrect.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sunday trading allows only 6 hours, thats why they close at Midnight Saturday.

Our local Tesco does 10 til 4 then Sunday then reopens at midnight .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your assumption that no shop opens Seven days a week from 9am till midnight in England is factually incorrect....."

Only shops under 280sq metres are allowed to open.

The subject was about an Iceland superstore employing 50 people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

They need that many to cover 7 day 8 am til 8pm opening.

Not one shop in England opens 8am til 8pm 7 days a week.

Its against the law.................we got asda 24 hours opening

nisa opens till 11pm

Name the Asda store in England that opens 12 hours on a Sunday ???????"
you have got quite a few asda stores open in england

one in stevenage,luton harlow,watford.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

You are incorrect....it's only shops that are over 280 square metres that have to operate within Sunday opening regulations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

They need that many to cover 7 day 8 am til 8pm opening.

Not one shop in England opens 8am til 8pm 7 days a week.

Its against the law.................we got asda 24 hours opening

nisa opens till 11pm

Name the Asda store in England that opens 12 hours on a Sunday ???????you have got quite a few asda stores open in england

one in stevenage,luton harlow,watford. "

Guess you didnt bother to read the question then

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"Your assumption that no shop opens Seven days a week from 9am till midnight in England is factually incorrect.....

Only shops under 280sq metres are allowed to open.

The subject was about an Iceland superstore employing 50 people."

"Not one shop in England opens 8am til 8pm 7 days a week.

Its against the law............"

That is you wording, not mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You are incorrect....it's only shops that are over 280 square metres that have to operate within Sunday opening regulations."

I did post the correction. I was talking about a shop with 50 staff though.

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts

this is not the only problem to gain employment ... there is also the difficulty the government has caused with all the certification you now need to get a job .... for example ... in 1977, i passed my test to drive a bus, which i happily did for many years.

in 2007, i decided on a career change so no more bus driving.... i have now had to (reluctantly) go back into the industry, but, 36 years of driving people & kids around now seems to count for nothing ... i have to apply for crb, cpc, etc. etc .... you even need a certificate to work on a building site as a labourer.

my point is this..... how do the unemployed find the cash to do all these courses to obtain these nonsensical certificates which you need to obtain employment and quite often have to pay for yourself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"this is not the only problem to gain employment ... there is also the difficulty the government has caused with all the certification you now need to get a job .... for example ... in 1977, i passed my test to drive a bus, which i happily did for many years.

in 2007, i decided on a career change so no more bus driving.... i have now had to (reluctantly) go back into the industry, but, 36 years of driving people & kids around now seems to count for nothing ... i have to apply for crb, cpc, etc. etc .... you even need a certificate to work on a building site as a labourer.

my point is this..... how do the unemployed find the cash to do all these courses to obtain these nonsensical certificates which you need to obtain employment and quite often have to pay for yourself?"

Can you not claim it back from the job centre, if its a requirement of your employment ???

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts


"this is not the only problem to gain employment ... there is also the difficulty the government has caused with all the certification you now need to get a job .... for example ... in 1977, i passed my test to drive a bus, which i happily did for many years.

in 2007, i decided on a career change so no more bus driving.... i have now had to (reluctantly) go back into the industry, but, 36 years of driving people & kids around now seems to count for nothing ... i have to apply for crb, cpc, etc. etc .... you even need a certificate to work on a building site as a labourer.

my point is this..... how do the unemployed find the cash to do all these courses to obtain these nonsensical certificates which you need to obtain employment and quite often have to pay for yourself?

Can you not claim it back from the job centre, if its a requirement of your employment ???"

i really dont know the answer to that ... but even if you can ... you probably have to pay it before you can claim it back .... but i do understand they will not pay for a CRB check

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"this is not the only problem to gain employment ... there is also the difficulty the government has caused with all the certification you now need to get a job .... for example ... in 1977, i passed my test to drive a bus, which i happily did for many years.

in 2007, i decided on a career change so no more bus driving.... i have now had to (reluctantly) go back into the industry, but, 36 years of driving people & kids around now seems to count for nothing ... i have to apply for crb, cpc, etc. etc .... you even need a certificate to work on a building site as a labourer.

my point is this..... how do the unemployed find the cash to do all these courses to obtain these nonsensical certificates which you need to obtain employment and quite often have to pay for yourself?"

I'm quite pleased that the bus driver who takes my kids to school has been CRB'd.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think most people would be.

Surely they cant expect those struggling on benefits to pay out first.

If they can re-emburse it afterwards then why not just pay up front ??

Unless its if you fail they save the money, but that would be just me thinking they are tight gits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im my experience employers usually pay for CRB checks. Yes the job centre will pay for some courses like the SCS you need to work on a building site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

They need that many to cover 7 day 8 am til 8pm opening.

Not one shop in England opens 8am til 8pm 7 days a week.

Its against the law.................we got asda 24 hours opening

nisa opens till 11pm

Name the Asda store in England that opens 12 hours on a Sunday ???????"

Being padantic the Hereford 24 hour asda is open 16 hours on a Sunday thats from midnight till 4PM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Being padantic the Hereford 24 hour asda is open 16 hours on a Sunday thats from midnight till 4PM"

Is it one of those little stores they have in garages etc ???

Stores over 280 sq mtrs are prevented by Sunday trading laws.

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By *wanzMan
over a year ago

Swansea

I was unemployed for 18 months in the UK, I have a vast management experience and more than enough qualifications - but I couldnt get a job ...

I've had to accept a contracting self employed job overseas now .. and the dole kicked up at me for taking that !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope its a huge one check it out on Google maps, often stop off there on the way home after a night out in Hereford

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nope its a huge one check it out on Google maps, often stop off there on the way home after a night out in Hereford"

My mistake aparrently it shuts at 10 on a Saturday my apologies goes to show the last time i went out!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I understand minimum wage jobs never attract a lot of applicants - but playing devils advocate I've just done some maths in my head!

Current JSA for over 24's is £71.20 a week. Given an average working week of 35 hrs - surely earning £6.31 an hour has to be a better option than 'not earning' £2 an hour for 6 mths on JSA?

If you're single, living at home with mum and dad and have no kids - which lets face it - there's a fair few in those circumstances - should a minimum wage job not be better than sitting on your arse ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My partner Morrigan has been in full time education since high school but that is ending soon so last week she started applying for jobs, I guess shes lucky as she applied for 3 got a call for an interview today from one and was given the job. However none of these jobs were advertised at the Job centre and the interviewer said today that they would not entertain putting a job in there due to the type of people they have apply!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think most people would be.

Surely they cant expect those struggling on benefits to pay out first.

If they can re-emburse it afterwards then why not just pay up front ??

Unless its if you fail they save the money, but that would be just me thinking they are tight gits. "

But if you have two thousand people going for fiftey vacancies surely the company shouldn't be obliged to pay for all if them , only the successful applicants.

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

Look at job vacancies from another angle.

Last week, I'd an employee leave from my department, so an advert was placed in the trade press last Tuesday, which cascaded into sites such as Indeed and Jobrapido.

By Thursday alone, we'd already had some 20 applicants of which 10 were very good for following up. Attempts were made but only 2 could be contacted; of the remaining 8, messages were left for them to contact us. We're still waiting!!

Of the two we did speak to, one failed to show up. The other I interviewed today; made redundant from the Army last November, he's made over 450 job applications since, with less than 2% responses.

He'd two interviews with me and my HR Manager; we're taking him on, and he starts next week!

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"My partner Morrigan has been in full time education since high school but that is ending soon so last week she started applying for jobs, I guess shes lucky as she applied for 3 got a call for an interview today from one and was given the job. However none of these jobs were advertised at the Job centre and the interviewer said today that they would not entertain putting a job in there due to the type of people they have apply! "

Job Centres are a joke. I see them like the Ministries in 1984 - The Ministry of Truth being all about lying and deceiving the public. So the Job Centre does not really do much to get people into real, meaningful work. Just 'McJobs'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

They need that many to cover 7 day 8 am til 8pm opening.

Not one shop in England opens 8am til 8pm 7 days a week.

Its against the law.................we got asda 24 hours opening

nisa opens till 11pm

"
not 7 days a week tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

In the main they will be part time....probably all but Two or Three positions will be 20 hours or under.

More subsidised wages then

I should imagine they are mainly women who are working around their children's school hours....or should we ban women from going back to work and supplementing the family income?

I for one am happy to see so many 'housewives' and mothers have been released from the shackles of 1960's views on women working."

Whilst it is good to see "housewives" and mothers working, it should be through choice not necessity. You only have to go back as far as the seventies and many mens wages were enough to support a family with his wife staying at home. Now if you both don't work, you can't make ends meet. Employers and the government(s) would have you believe it is all down to equality. It's all down to screwing the workers as far as they can.

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

Left wing propergander...

Ive been offered 3 jobs in asmany weeks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you go on jobcentre plus there are hundreds of jobs, the problem is all the unqualified jobs are taken and most of the jobs on there are jobs requiring qualification that 99% of the people looking don't have

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im my experience employers usually pay for CRB checks. Yes the job centre will pay for some courses like the SCS you need to work on a building site."

In my experience the job centre would not fund ANY useful courses. I asked about redoing my FLT or confined space training. They did not want to know, but these are the ones that employers are demanding that you have. They would not even reemburse me for petrol, when I went down to Basingstoke for an interview, all the way from Bolton. It was cheaper than the train but despite filling all the forms in, I never got a penny. This was despite the fact that my JSA had ceased about 6 months previously .

They just don't WANT to help really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was unemployed for 18 months in the UK, I have a vast management experience and more than enough qualifications - but I couldnt get a job ...

I've had to accept a contracting self employed job overseas now .. and the dole kicked up at me for taking that !"

Hope you told them to go fuck themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Left wing propergander...

Ive been offered 3 jobs in asmany weeks "

Not as a proof reader for The Grauniad, by any chance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A LOT of the jobs that you see advertised are replicated from one site to another, and a LOT of those don't actually exist. I applied for countless ones with employment agencies and headhunters that came to nothing, then a few weeks later, the SAME job is readvertised. It is a con, to get you onto their books.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"Left wing propergander...

Ive been offered 3 jobs in asmany weeks "

Maybe you should take one then?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Left wing propergander...

Ive been offered 3 jobs in asmany weeks

Not as a proof reader for The Grauniad, by any chance?"

more like the daily hell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im my experience employers usually pay for CRB checks. Yes the job centre will pay for some courses like the SCS you need to work on a building site.

In my experience the job centre would not fund ANY useful courses. I asked about redoing my FLT or confined space training. They did not want to know, but these are the ones that employers are demanding that you have. They would not even reemburse me for petrol, when I went down to Basingstoke for an interview, all the way from Bolton. It was cheaper than the train but despite filling all the forms in, I never got a penny. This was despite the fact that my JSA had ceased about 6 months previously .

They just don't WANT to help really."
as for paying for traing it all depends on how long you have been out of work or if you have just came out of jail, as for not paying for traveling for an interview, there is funds available, I travelled from Newcastle to Stoke for an interview and I got mileage allowance not a lot but it helped

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"New Iceland store near us advertised for 50 vacancies, over 800 applied.

Since when have you ever been in Iceland and seen 50 staff

In the main they will be part time....probably all but Two or Three positions will be 20 hours or under.

More subsidised wages then

I should imagine they are mainly women who are working around their children's school hours....or should we ban women from going back to work and supplementing the family income?

I for one am happy to see so many 'housewives' and mothers have been released from the shackles of 1960's views on women working.

Whilst it is good to see "housewives" and mothers working, it should be through choice not necessity. You only have to go back as far as the seventies and many mens wages were enough to support a family with his wife staying at home. Now if you both don't work, you can't make ends meet. Employers and the government(s) would have you believe it is all down to equality. It's all down to screwing the workers as far as they can."

Peoples aspirations have changed since the Seventies though, families want more out of life.

The days when they would be satisfied with earning just enough to live and have the occasional treat have long gone for many people.

I know of several women who work part time now their children are old enough, so that they can have holidays and a better standard of living overall.

It's one reason (not the only reason) why many women supplement the husbands wage in the household, it's often out of pure necessity....but not always.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im my experience employers usually pay for CRB checks. Yes the job centre will pay for some courses like the SCS you need to work on a building site.

In my experience the job centre would not fund ANY useful courses. I asked about redoing my FLT or confined space training. They did not want to know, but these are the ones that employers are demanding that you have. They would not even reemburse me for petrol, when I went down to Basingstoke for an interview, all the way from Bolton. It was cheaper than the train but despite filling all the forms in, I never got a penny. This was despite the fact that my JSA had ceased about 6 months previously .

They just don't WANT to help really. as for paying for traing it all depends on how long you have been out of work or if you have just came out of jail, as for not paying for traveling for an interview, there is funds available, I travelled from Newcastle to Stoke for an interview and I got mileage allowance not a lot but it helped "

They must have been wanting to reimburse me by putting it in WITH my next JSA payment. But as I wasn't getting that, I could not have the petrol money. Nobody said it had to make sense. It IS the government after all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Look at job vacancies from another angle.

Last week, I'd an employee leave from my department, so an advert was placed in the trade press last Tuesday, which cascaded into sites such as Indeed and Jobrapido.

By Thursday alone, we'd already had some 20 applicants of which 10 were very good for following up. Attempts were made but only 2 could be contacted; of the remaining 8, messages were left for them to contact us. We're still waiting!!

Of the two we did speak to, one failed to show up. The other I interviewed today; made redundant from the Army last November, he's made over 450 job applications since, with less than 2% responses.

He'd two interviews with me and my HR Manager; we're taking him on, and he starts next week!"
I put an add in the job centre for a driver after narrowing down who look best look suited to the job they were invited to come along for an interviews out of 10 I had 7 no shows 1 turned up wearing a tracksuit another had more points than QPR and the last 1 failed to produce his licence even tho they were all told to bring it along its not an easy job trying to find ppl to work for you

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By *itzWoman
over a year ago

south wales


"this is not the only problem to gain employment ... there is also the difficulty the government has caused with all the certification you now need to get a job .... for example ... in 1977, i passed my test to drive a bus, which i happily did for many years.

in 2007, i decided on a career change so no more bus driving.... i have now had to (reluctantly) go back into the industry, but, 36 years of driving people & kids around now seems to count for nothing ... i have to apply for crb, cpc, etc. etc .... you even need a certificate to work on a building site as a labourer.

my point is this..... how do the unemployed find the cash to do all these courses to obtain these nonsensical certificates which you need to obtain employment and quite often have to pay for yourself?

Can you not claim it back from the job centre, if its a requirement of your employment ???"

The job centre will pay for a course/ticket but only if you manage to get an employer to write to the job centre stating that they guarantee to employ you if you have said ticket. This means waiting for the job centre to sort the funding for the course/ticket, waiting for the prospective employee to have said course and not taking on any other prospective employee that comes along who already has said ticket and appropriate skills. Needless to say, its really hard to get such a letter to get a course paid for by the job centre.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I understand minimum wage jobs never attract a lot of applicants - but playing devils advocate I've just done some maths in my head!

Current JSA for over 24's is £71.20 a week. Given an average working week of 35 hrs - surely earning £6.31 an hour has to be a better option than 'not earning' £2 an hour for 6 mths on JSA?

If you're single, living at home with mum and dad and have no kids - which lets face it - there's a fair few in those circumstances - should a minimum wage job not be better than sitting on your arse ? "

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By *lubcouple2Couple
over a year ago

newport

The answer is no inless the company you work for is paying you have 2 pay your self

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I understand minimum wage jobs never attract a lot of applicants - but playing devils advocate I've just done some maths in my head!

Current JSA for over 24's is £71.20 a week. Given an average working week of 35 hrs - surely earning £6.31 an hour has to be a better option than 'not earning' £2 an hour for 6 mths on JSA?

If you're single, living at home with mum and dad and have no kids - which lets face it - there's a fair few in those circumstances - should a minimum wage job not be better than sitting on your arse ? "

But they are not exactly minimum wage. They are minimum hourly rate and you can only get twenty hours, when THEY want you. That's if you can get the job. If you have anything about you, they will not take you on. Your either over qualified, too old, they think you will jump ship asap, or cause trouble by standing up for your rights and cause subordination in the ranks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are loads of jobs out there, just look online at all job websites. The thing is due to the amount of of peope out of work, companies can pick and choose who they want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are loads of jobs out there, just look online at all job websites. The thing is due to the amount of of peope out of work, companies can pick and choose who they want.

"

A LOT of those jobs don't exist. They are faked in order for you to give all your details to the employment agencies that you have to go through. When all is said and done there is not enough jobs for the people of working age. And the situation has been getting worse since the eighties. How many times has the method for calculating "the unmeployed" changed? The criteria to fit that description is getting tighter and tighter.

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By *ickiemintMan
over a year ago

Somewhere NW London


"We keep being told that people have no need to be on benefits as there are loads of jobs around. But I just read a news report about 4,300 people applying for just 150 jobs at a Tesco due to open in Hampshire, and this is not the first of such reports I have read recently.

It's all old news but the government refuses to see the truth. Like you say; 150 jobs. Wow that is a lot for a Tesco but not for a town, especially with thousands applying for the same job.

That should make you wonder how many unemployed people DIDNT apply for it because they need better pay etc.

The government actually takes the statistics from people refused benefits or kicked off them to imply that those who arent earning benefits are actually in work, so its also a false statistic when they consider that two thirds of the country are employed and one third isn't. Of course you have to take children and pensioners into account also but they don't know what they're doing and their research is fixed, so dont believe it!"

The phrase 'Lies, damned lies and statistics' springs to mind.

The government makes the figures say what they want them to say, and b*ll*cks to the truth of the matter. And that goes across the board, no matter what the issue...they just keep feeding us bullshit and hoping we'll keep quiet about their salaries, holidays, expenses, scandals, criminality, etc, the list goes on...

If I suddenly disappear, please make sure that the government department that investigated David Kelly's death isn't allowed anywhere near...lol... Rich

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the unemployment figures have been fiddled for decades they just move the unemployed onto other benefits to make it look like the unemployed figure is going down but of course we all know its not"
. Too true!

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By *orkieMan
over a year ago

Who knows

There are jobs out there however they are not advertised in the Chav clearing house aka Job Centres, most are by word of mouth / old pals act / specific forums.

Last time I used a job centre was 1986 and have changed jobs / employers/ careers constantly since then. and even then then job centre staff treated you like muppets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I understand minimum wage jobs never attract a lot of applicants - but playing devils advocate I've just done some maths in my head!

Current JSA for over 24's is £71.20 a week. Given an average working week of 35 hrs - surely earning £6.31 an hour has to be a better option than 'not earning' £2 an hour for 6 mths on JSA?

If you're single, living at home with mum and dad and have no kids - which lets face it - there's a fair few in those circumstances - should a minimum wage job not be better than sitting on your arse ? "

I don't want to agree but I do. There is a fair amount of jobs out there. Having recently rejoined the world of the employed, I found myself taking jobs that made me miserable. Why? Because it was a job and it meant I was earning while still looking for something that was more suitable. I don find that some people turn up their nose at certain jobs and then moan that they can't find one after turning so many down.

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By *owlmMan
over a year ago

Wakefield


"I understand minimum wage jobs never attract a lot of applicants - but playing devils advocate I've just done some maths in my head!

Current JSA for over 24's is £71.20 a week. Given an average working week of 35 hrs - surely earning £6.31 an hour has to be a better option than 'not earning' £2 an hour for 6 mths on JSA?

If you're single, living at home with mum and dad and have no kids - which lets face it - there's a fair few in those circumstances - should a minimum wage job not be better than sitting on your arse ?

I don't want to agree but I do. There is a fair amount of jobs out there. Having recently rejoined the world of the employed, I found myself taking jobs that made me miserable. Why? Because it was a job and it meant I was earning while still looking for something that was more suitable. I don find that some people turn up their nose at certain jobs and then moan that they can't find one after turning so many down."

i cant agree. the only job i can find is my current one which is a paye which isnt exactly employment.

if there were jobs i would be in a proper one by now. there are none.

as for promotion and skilled work its a case of 'who you know' or 'who you blow' rather than just doing a course and putting it on your cv, sending it to an employer and awaiting a reply.

if you go in through the front door your more likely to be spammed in your inbox and waste a load of time filling in online forms. only to be appended to a database of millions of applicants.

sorry but thats how things are.

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By *owlmMan
over a year ago

Wakefield


"There are loads of jobs out there, just look online at all job websites. The thing is due to the amount of of peope out of work, companies can pick and choose who they want.

A LOT of those jobs don't exist. They are faked in order for you to give all your details to the employment agencies that you have to go through. When all is said and done there is not enough jobs for the people of working age. And the situation has been getting worse since the eighties. How many times has the method for calculating "the unmeployed" changed? The criteria to fit that description is getting tighter and tighter."

i agree. the jobs dont really exist. the jobs are either fake or already taken intnerally. they have to advertise publically by law but its all BS.

the jobs arent real. get over it. find another socially disadvantaged group to look down on

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By *owlmMan
over a year ago

Wakefield


"There are jobs out there however they are not advertised in the Chav clearing house aka Job Centres, most are by word of mouth / old pals act / specific forums.

Last time I used a job centre was 1986 and have changed jobs / employers/ careers constantly since then. and even then then job centre staff treated you like muppets "

i agree. i wish it werent true.

its who you know and/or who you blow.

work is more about being a good team player (ie: friend/escort) rather than actual work.

you'll get the occasional token 'ugly' on the team but most decent jobs are taken up by the most fertile fuckable human beings on the planet lol

sorry but its true

i still have dignity but im running out of sanity!!!

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By *ighland_RoseCouple
over a year ago

Brigadoon

I'm starting a new job this week. I saw it advertised on the companies facebook page of all places. I messaged through Facebook, got an answer straight away and an interview an hour later and told I had the job the next day. I have to say it was easier than I expected it to be, especially as after 15 years of being self employed I had no references or CV.

Saying that though it's not all good news. I can't afford to live on the wage and will have to find a second job to supplement it. Plus the job is only until October...it's going to be a cold, hungry Christmas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ime from liverpool and all the jobs i see are advertised on behalf of emplyment agencies ime working full time nights and would realky like to get on days but its not worth leaving employment for a tempory job with an agency ..spare me the 70s jokes go rob some wheel hubs or a old wonans purse .. as for the job centre sorry i mean joke centre they speak toyou like your a mong so i can understand why people would rather find alturnative ways to put a loaf on the table ..happy swinging people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the unemployment figures have been fiddled for decades they just move the unemployed onto other benefits to make it look like the unemployed figure is going down but of course we all know its not"

If a PLC filed it's company reports using the same numbers massaging as the government do, there would be lots more director's in prison for fraud

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By *owlmMan
over a year ago

Wakefield


"the unemployment figures have been fiddled for decades they just move the unemployed onto other benefits to make it look like the unemployed figure is going down but of course we all know its not

If a PLC filed it's company reports using the same numbers massaging as the government do, there would be lots more director's in prison for fraud "

another depressing thing is the bbc reckons unemployment in my area is at 5 percent. you know its gonna be a lie because its provided by ONS. you know its gonna be bullshit. you're looking at about 10-15 percent. thats worrying!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are loads of jobs out there, just look online at all job websites. The thing is due to the amount of of peope out of work, companies can pick and choose who they want.

A LOT of those jobs don't exist. They are faked in order for you to give all your details to the employment agencies that you have to go through. When all is said and done there is not enough jobs for the people of working age. And the situation has been getting worse since the eighties. How many times has the method for calculating "the unmeployed" changed? The criteria to fit that description is getting tighter and tighter."

They are not fake, they are real, but the comnpany has already filled the position but has to advertise it anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are loads of jobs out there, just look online at all job websites. The thing is due to the amount of of peope out of work, companies can pick and choose who they want.

A LOT of those jobs don't exist. They are faked in order for you to give all your details to the employment agencies that you have to go through. When all is said and done there is not enough jobs for the people of working age. And the situation has been getting worse since the eighties. How many times has the method for calculating "the unmeployed" changed? The criteria to fit that description is getting tighter and tighter.

They are not fake, they are real, but the comnpany has already filled the position but has to advertise it anyway."

They are fake, because the same jobs with vague descriptions and no mention EVER of who it is with, come up again and again. You can set your watch by them. It's phishing.

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