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By *rawnbanquet OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Glasgow

I believe that it is an overblown thing.People trying to find too much significance in technology that while impressive in some has very extreme limitations.Limitations that take time to sort

But I have been wrong before.Very wrong

Your thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site)
2 weeks ago

I've seen the documentary with Arnold Schwarzenegger... It doesn't end well.

In all seriousness, best case is it's the industrial revolution v 2.0.

Worst case scenario it'll be used by the rich to do the jobs of the people they want to wipe out so it'll be a bumpy ride as they repopulate through mass genocide and wars.

The reality will be somewhere in the middle and it depends which conspiracies come true next.

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By *rostgiantMan
2 weeks ago

Chippenham

There is a tv series called Person of Interest. Its about ASI (artificial super intelligence) and I think its the most plausible version of AI 🤷‍♂️

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
2 weeks ago

West Suffolk

I think the AI we have at the moment is very simplistic. That’s not to say it will stay that way of course. As the uses and intelligence become greater, one stumbling block is morals. Whose morals do “robots” get taught? For example, a self driving car is driving down the street when a 50yo man steps out in front of the vehicle. It can either hit the man, swerve left and hit a child or swerve right into oncoming traffic with an unknown outcome. Someone has to preprogram a “moral” code for the vehicle to base its decisions on.

The famous Isaac Asimov I Robot with its 3 basic laws of robotics are a good start but it will be so much more complex that that at some point.

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By *ohnjones3210Man
2 weeks ago

Chester


"I believe that it is an overblown thing.People trying to find too much significance in technology that while impressive in some has very extreme limitations.Limitations that take time to sort

But I have been wrong before.Very wrong

Your thoughts?

"

I recently wrote a paper on OSINT for cyber defense. It touched on AI several times.

If you think about what AI is, it's not intelligent at all, and it's not artificial, it's real. My understanding of the name is that it came from some sort of futuristic concept from the 70's.

If you look at the likes of Google and Bing, what do their AI systems do?

Google and bing; their job is to get some text from you, and offer you lists of websites that seem to be related. The more one thing gets clicked on, the higher it ranks, because the person who typed the term found that particular result as helpful, etc. so Google deems that as more likely to be "the answer". It's basically a list of indexed web pages.

Thele role of AI in these systems is to add another layer on top of that. When you type a search into AI, an automation system does the same as before, but this time, it does many searches, it finds related buzz words from a list. It searches through pages on your behalf, extracts bits according to various algorithms, and then presents them to you along with the related links.

If you think about it, there's nothing intelligent about that, and it's not artificial. It's just the next layer of work that can be afforded to use now that libraries are more developed, and not that processing power and storage aren't really hard to come by.

I wrote an AI system about 10 years ago. It had a light sensor, an RTC, relays and lots of other things. It could make decisions based on various sensors. It was good, but it wasn't intelligent and it wasn't artificial.

I understand that nowadays I there are some things that cause alarm. Apparently Israel has some AI guided bombing system. No doubt Bae are probably involved in some way. The UK is at the cutting edge of this intelligence gathering thing. They set up the first OSINT system just after WW1, so that it could lead the way for automation.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
2 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"I think the AI we have at the moment is very simplistic. That’s not to say it will stay that way of course. As the uses and intelligence become greater, one stumbling block is morals. Whose morals do “robots” get taught? For example, a self driving car is driving down the street when a 50yo man steps out in front of the vehicle. It can either hit the man, swerve left and hit a child or swerve right into oncoming traffic with an unknown outcome. Someone has to preprogram a “moral” code for the vehicle to base its decisions on.

The famous Isaac Asimov I Robot with its 3 basic laws of robotics are a good start but it will be so much more complex that that at some point. "

It's not a moral issue when someone gets mowed down. No one made a choice to mow them down and a self driving car would probably be better equipped than the average human at detecting and avoiding hazards.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
2 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

I am already overusing A1. I use it both search and write.

There will be new methods of study soon surely as A1 has totally negated the need for me to do research and almost negated the need for human thought.

A1 will have far reaching consequences and cause infinite change at an alarming rate.

It's inevitable. It's what technology wants. An extension of industrial and technological progression. Just brace yourself without catastrophing.

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By *xplorer666Man
2 weeks ago

Bolton

Probably going to be both a blessing and a curse in many ways. But personally I'm excited for the things it can and will do for porn. It can already make some amazing pictures. In a few years time when it's progressed I can only imagine how it will revolutionise porn.

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By *anterandbrainsMan
2 weeks ago

Sheffield

There was the dial up modem which was ok but then broadband changed the game overnight

When ai finds it's broadband moment things will get interesting

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By *oxy jWoman
2 weeks ago

somerset

ai is going to ruin these types of sites where sex is involved as there will be some many ai fake profiles ai ajusted pics/videos that it will kill many many sites ... its already hapening wi ai sites offering to make things for you

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By *mmortalbMan
2 weeks ago

kildare

Spent years of my life learning how to be a 3d artist, texture artist, Photoshop, video editing, visual effects, digital painting the lot. Industry is falling apart atm, can't even get an entry level role as ai has replaced a lot of the tedious jobs that would once get your foot in the door. It's only in it's simplest form now, as in, it is it's worst now, and will only improve. Voice actors are also being replaced for voice generation, and concept artist too. Ai will be used by companies to cut costs, it's already happening. So more unemployment on the way. look at the games industry atm, it's in shambles. And all that woke dei crap is not helping. So not a fan of ai myself, if it was kept a tool maybe, but like self checkouts, just. Ore jobs gone. In saying that, at least I can get an ai girlfriend instead of dating apps hahaha.

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By *sWyldWoman
2 weeks ago

Edinburgh

I love a bit of Chat GPT. Comes in handy for many things at work and for when I'm traveling.

Beyond that I don't really give it much thought

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By *electableicecreamMan
2 weeks ago

The West

With the possibility of AGI in the next two years the implications for rapid change are staggering.

News about artists and coders losing jobs is only scratching the surface. Academia and research in every scientific field is going to be completely reshaped and accelerated by orders of magnitude.

Weapons of the kind we haven't imagined yet are no doubt already being planned and we will have new kind of nuclear nonproliferation treaty's.

Autonomous robots will eventually become the norm in service, labour and military applications.

Once AGI gives way to ASI all bets are off. No one can predict what will happen after that.

Jeffery Hinton, who was awarded the Nobel prize this year for developing technology that made AI possible is worth reading. Ray Kurzwiel is worth a look too. Those are two of the guys that have brought AI to where it is today.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Central

AI likely has exceptional potential but will be shaped by a tiny minority of people, for their own limited interests and benefit, rather than for the potential of the masses. It's incredibly impactful to our environment too, being extremely hungry in terms of energy consumption.

It's tragic that it consumes, without compensation to the right people, what it needs in order to recreate its own output from its input. It does this because our lack of regulation permits it to, for no benefit of those whose labour and brilliance was consumed, for the benefits of AI owners.

And this is whilst we don't have generative AI.

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
2 weeks ago

West Suffolk


"I think the AI we have at the moment is very simplistic. That’s not to say it will stay that way of course. As the uses and intelligence become greater, one stumbling block is morals. Whose morals do “robots” get taught? For example, a self driving car is driving down the street when a 50yo man steps out in front of the vehicle. It can either hit the man, swerve left and hit a child or swerve right into oncoming traffic with an unknown outcome. Someone has to preprogram a “moral” code for the vehicle to base its decisions on.

The famous Isaac Asimov I Robot with its 3 basic laws of robotics are a good start but it will be so much more complex that that at some point.

It's not a moral issue when someone gets mowed down. No one made a choice to mow them down and a self driving car would probably be better equipped than the average human at detecting and avoiding hazards. "

The choice of which action to take is moral. In the absence of instructions as to what to do, a computer does nothing. So the computer driving the car has to be given instructions as to what to do in 1000s of different circumstances. That’s basically what a computer program is, a list of “if” questions and an answer.

If a man steps into the road, brake

No time to brake, swerve

If there is kid in the way, brake

No time to brake, swerve

Sometimes there isn’t an outcome that isn’t bad. Most humans would instinctively avoid the man and the kid and swerve into oncoming traffic. But that’s the option with the highest risk of personal harm. You don’t have time to think of the consequences, you just react. A computer can’t do that, it has to weight up the options based on the information it has. It has to be told which is the “best” outcome, and that’s a moral decision.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
1 week ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Artificial intelligence has been around forever.

Just look at your average Facebook post and the comments on it. Most of the posters are real, but the intelligence they claim to have is definitely artificial.

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By *pankingNorfolkCouple
1 week ago

Norwichish

At the moment AI is a timesaver.

Take Adobe with AI built in. I can ask it to create me an image based on a number of inputs. It’s pretty damn good and then you can ask it to refine based on styles etc.

It’s the ability to talk to it in natural language that makes it useful.

I have used ChatGPT to suggest usernames or brand names for businesses based on set criteria, I’ve used it to check if usernames/brand names are taken.

I’ve used it to give me information quickly and easily, write emails.

I know people using Copilot and Outlook to delve through email threads and get a summary of what has gone on, action points and conclusions. Also asking it to create PowerPoints based on other documents/info fed to it.

The systems are clever in terms of their ability.

Someone earlier called it Industrial Revolution 2.0 and that is true, when the initial one reduced the required labour for manufacturing, this one will reduce the administration labour. The majority of my job in finance will be lost to AI, a lot of it is already lost to basic automation.

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By *mmortalbMan
1 week ago

kildare


"With the possibility of AGI in the next two years the implications for rapid change are staggering.

News about artists and coders losing jobs is only scratching the surface. Academia and research in every scientific field is going to be completely reshaped and accelerated by orders of magnitude.

Weapons of the kind we haven't imagined yet are no doubt already being planned and we will have new kind of nuclear nonproliferation treaty's.

Autonomous robots will eventually become the norm in service, labour and military applications.

Once AGI gives way to ASI all bets are off. No one can predict what will happen after that.

Jeffery Hinton, who was awarded the Nobel prize this year for developing technology that made AI possible is worth reading. Ray Kurzwiel is worth a look too. Those are two of the guys that have brought AI to where it is today."

I know they are also working on a super computer atm too. What takes people minutes, or ai seconds, will allow ai do compute complex things in milliseconds. It will allow for advanced AI learning and the such.

I like the ai of it used for NPC ai in games. Like I seen it used as a mod for Skyrim, where NPCs could reference the games lore to answer the player. Slow and clunky, but cool.

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By *mmortalbMan
1 week ago

kildare

Just to add, ai is now used for cv sorting. Unemployed atm, and doing the intreo meetings. But basically if ai can't read your cv, it has 0chance of ever reaching human eyes. They use AI now to shortlist CVS automatically before somebody even takes a look.

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By *echnosonic_BrummieMan
1 week ago

Willenhall

Personally I don't believe AI currently exists. Artificial Intelligence suggests something that is self-aware and capable of learning by receiving and responding to stimuli. Current computer hardware and software does a very good job of simulating intelligence but it just isn't "intelligent".

My main concern is when things that can make life or death decisions are left in the hands of "AI" such as autonomous weapons or self-driving cars. Current "AI" is really an augmentation of human intelligence, not a replacement for it.

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By *anted by NightMan
1 week ago

Shangri-La

Artificial intelligence will never be a match for natural stupidity.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
1 week ago

Norwich


"Artificial intelligence will never be a match for natural stupidity."

That comment wins the Internet for today

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By *rHotNottsMan
1 week ago

Dubai & Nottingham

A dancing bear.

The implications of the current gen AI / LLM’s are the levelling up of the unskilled and semi Skilled that work in tech and admin , it’s already happening, the democratisation of bottom end skills in writing.

Real AI hasn’t been invented yet. The current systems take the output of human learning. There are no systems yet synthesise the actual learning and reasoning process.

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By *electableicecreamMan
1 week ago

The West


"A dancing bear.

The implications of the current gen AI / LLM’s are the levelling up of the unskilled and semi Skilled that work in tech and admin , it’s already happening, the democratisation of bottom end skills in writing.

Real AI hasn’t been invented yet. The current systems take the output of human learning. There are no systems yet synthesise the actual learning and reasoning process.

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I wouldn't say that's entirely correct. Systems exist today that have surpassed humans on the Abstract Reasoning Benchmark.

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By *ilsaGeorgeCouple
1 week ago

kent

It’s not overblown. It’s already having a profound effect on the industry I work in, and it’s still in its infancy.

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