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By *iker Jack OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

Apparently the average 12 year old spends 29 hours per week on the internet

Australia is planning to ban social media use for children under the age of 16.

The government says it is acting to guarantee children's safety online.

However, critics argue that it would be better to bring in "safety standards" on social media platforms instead.

If passed, the country would become the first in the world to bring in such a ban.

But under-16s won't be forced off social media if they already have accounts, or if their parents say it's ok for them to have one.

What are your thoughts?

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By *obilebottomMan
12 weeks ago

All over

Safety is one thing, what about what is doing to them as people, the development of their social and interpersonal skills, their health and so much more. Technology has brought some great benefits to sociaty but sadly lots of other stuff that are not great at all

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By *arley QuimWoman
12 weeks ago

Somewhere

Sounds like a load of shite... The internet is already out there. It's not going away, it's better kids can access it and learn hopeful bacic 'don't be a moron' skills vs not in life...

Those who are dumb will remain dumb. If you hand them a lighter and a firecracker you need to ask yourself why?

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By *ets_Wank_TogetherMan
12 weeks ago

Skelmersdale


"Safety is one thing, what about what is doing to them as people, the development of their social and interpersonal skills, their health and so much more. Technology has brought some great benefits to sociaty but sadly lots of other stuff that are not great at all "

I would apply that to the parents as well, who should be leading by example.

Just look at the groups of adults you see out who are glued to their phones, or the family groups sitting at tables who say hardly a word to each other because they're lost in their own little bubbles of social media or whatever shite they're doom-scrolling through. It's not really giving the kids a great message if change is desired, is it?

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By *obilebottomMan
12 weeks ago

All over


"Safety is one thing, what about what is doing to them as people, the development of their social and interpersonal skills, their health and so much more. Technology has brought some great benefits to sociaty but sadly lots of other stuff that are not great at all

I would apply that to the parents as well, who should be leading by example.

Just look at the groups of adults you see out who are glued to their phones, or the family groups sitting at tables who say hardly a word to each other because they're lost in their own little bubbles of social media or whatever shite they're doom-scrolling through. It's not really giving the kids a great message if change is desired, is it?

"

No, it isn't

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By *avexxMan
12 weeks ago

cheshire


"Safety is one thing, what about what is doing to them as people, the development of their social and interpersonal skills, their health and so much more. Technology has brought some great benefits to sociaty but sadly lots of other stuff that are not great at all

I would apply that to the parents as well, who should be leading by example.

Just look at the groups of adults you see out who are glued to their phones, or the family groups sitting at tables who say hardly a word to each other because they're lost in their own little bubbles of social media or whatever shite they're doom-scrolling through. It's not really giving the kids a great message if change is desired, is it?

"
,,, yep i see this such a lot

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By *uncouple153Couple
12 weeks ago

Abergavenny

Just need to live with it . It's the future. Same was probably said when TV and Radio were invented

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By *arley QuimWoman
12 weeks ago

Somewhere


"Safety is one thing, what about what is doing to them as people, the development of their social and interpersonal skills, their health and so much more. Technology has brought some great benefits to sociaty but sadly lots of other stuff that are not great at all

I would apply that to the parents as well, who should be leading by example.

Just look at the groups of adults you see out who are glued to their phones, or the family groups sitting at tables who say hardly a word to each other because they're lost in their own little bubbles of social media or whatever shite they're doom-scrolling through. It's not really giving the kids a great message if change is desired, is it?

No, it isn't "

But a lot of folk now remotely work on their phones... Are you going to tut, sigh and judge them because you don't?

Bah you!... Terrible person not following my life rules!

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By *ets_Wank_TogetherMan
12 weeks ago

Skelmersdale

Surely these people sitting having dinner or drinking/"socialising" aren't working?

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By *obilebottomMan
12 weeks ago

All over


"Safety is one thing, what about what is doing to them as people, the development of their social and interpersonal skills, their health and so much more. Technology has brought some great benefits to sociaty but sadly lots of other stuff that are not great at all

I would apply that to the parents as well, who should be leading by example.

Just look at the groups of adults you see out who are glued to their phones, or the family groups sitting at tables who say hardly a word to each other because they're lost in their own little bubbles of social media or whatever shite they're doom-scrolling through. It's not really giving the kids a great message if change is desired, is it?

No, it isn't

But a lot of folk now remotely work on their phones... Are you going to tut, sigh and judge them because you don't?

Bah you!... Terrible person not following my life rules! "

I am sure he did not mean that though, unless I am mistaken. Sime people can't even sit and enjoy a meal with family at a restaurant without soending most of the time on their phone. Unless as you say they are working of course🤷‍♂️

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
12 weeks ago

Leeds

They are looking at blocking social media not the whole internet and I agree, it can be an awful place for young people.

Mrs

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By *arley QuimWoman
12 weeks ago

Somewhere


"Safety is one thing, what about what is doing to them as people, the development of their social and interpersonal skills, their health and so much more. Technology has brought some great benefits to sociaty but sadly lots of other stuff that are not great at all

I would apply that to the parents as well, who should be leading by example.

Just look at the groups of adults you see out who are glued to their phones, or the family groups sitting at tables who say hardly a word to each other because they're lost in their own little bubbles of social media or whatever shite they're doom-scrolling through. It's not really giving the kids a great message if change is desired, is it?

No, it isn't

But a lot of folk now remotely work on their phones... Are you going to tut, sigh and judge them because you don't?

Bah you!... Terrible person not following my life rules!

I am sure he did not mean that though, unless I am mistaken. Sime people can't even sit and enjoy a meal with family at a restaurant without soending most of the time on their phone. Unless as you say they are working of course🤷‍♂️"

I was also speaking as in the general..

Some folk cannot. If it's kids you should be able to state put the phone down or I'm not handing it back

Very easy with kids as normally you're the bill payer

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By *ets_Wank_TogetherMan
12 weeks ago

Skelmersdale

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By *iker Jack OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Wolverhampton


"They are looking at blocking social media not the whole internet and I agree, it can be an awful place for young people.

Mrs "

Not just young people but people on the whole

What I don’t understand about age restrictions is that you go from 17-18 in one day or in this proposed case 12-13 in one day.

What changes to you on that day that suddenly makes you more responsible or aware

For me things start at home and in school. Known and learned behaviours.

Teach people that not everything is as it seems or appears

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
12 weeks ago

Leeds


"They are looking at blocking social media not the whole internet and I agree, it can be an awful place for young people.

Mrs

Not just young people but people on the whole

What I don’t understand about age restrictions is that you go from 17-18 in one day or in this proposed case 12-13 in one day.

What changes to you on that day that suddenly makes you more responsible or aware

For me things start at home and in school. Known and learned behaviours.

Teach people that not everything is as it seems or appears "

That could be said for the legal age of anything though it's only 1 day.

Mrs

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By *uncouple153Couple
12 weeks ago

Abergavenny

When a teenager signs up and they are asked their age. They put 18. Lol

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By *iker Jack OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Wolverhampton


"They are looking at blocking social media not the whole internet and I agree, it can be an awful place for young people.

Mrs

Not just young people but people on the whole

What I don’t understand about age restrictions is that you go from 17-18 in one day or in this proposed case 12-13 in one day.

What changes to you on that day that suddenly makes you more responsible or aware

For me things start at home and in school. Known and learned behaviours.

Teach people that not everything is as it seems or appears

That could be said for the legal age of anything though it's only 1 day.

Mrs "

That’s exactly what I mean. I guess you have to just set a date and go with it

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
12 weeks ago

Central

I'd like it to be stricter, with a ban outright

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
12 weeks ago

East Sussex

Start with parents/carers/guardians. I'm often shocked when a parent says they had no idea their child was being bullied on line (or worse) when they've effectively allowed them access to the almost the entire population of the world in private with no one watching.

Our kids were young teenagers in the infancy of social media. We checked their internet history regularly and actually prevented some bad stuff from happening.

It's not as easy now I know but adults need to take charge of this situation, we also need to hold the people behind social media platforms to account.

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By *uckyNineMan
12 weeks ago

prescot

Sat in a cafe the other morning and there was a young couple on their phones at one table not talking to each other and an old couple sat at another table both with a newspaper each reading and not talking to each other, probably an age thing but I was like them 2 on their phones just ignoring each other but the old cpl reading the daily news looked kinda endearing. Essentially they were both sat there ignoring each other doing basically the same thing but it was funny how you view it differently

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
12 weeks ago

East Sussex

^^ I was about to say something similar.

Years ago our daughter was in hospital. The doctor who came to see her expressed surprise that both of us were sitting quietly reading books and congratulated us on it. I wonder if we'd have been congratulated if we were both reading on our phones.

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
12 weeks ago

West Suffolk


"Sime people can't even sit and enjoy a meal with family at a restaurant without soending most of the time on their phone. Unless as you say they are working of course🤷‍♂️"

I remember a few years ago having brunch in a bistro with my daughter and her partner who were both around 25 at the time. It was between Xmas and new year and the place was pretty packed. I didn’t live local to them and we were discussing where to go afterwards. We were also discussing when my son would be free so we could all get together for the day.

Her partner was on his phone checking opening times and entry prices of a couple of places, I was texting my son to see when he was free and my daughter was sorting out an urgent work email (she’d booked the day off but as she’s the manager she was always on call)

I didn’t hear it by my daughter said as we left that the table behind her were making sarky comments to each other about “so much for family time, they are all on their phones”. Just shows you don’t know what people are doing on their phone, it’s not always social media!

As for the ban. I don’t think it’s workable. Unless there is a way to enter the phone owners date of birth that can never b changed and the social media platforms take the data from that rather than a simple “are you over 13” question that even a nine year old can say yet to, it’s just not enforceable

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