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"Can I put that I would meet Andrew Tate ,just incase he's browsing 😉" Sorry to break it to you, he’s gay luv | |||
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"In my honest opinion, what you’re talking about, the way we use the word preference, is not that deep. " I enjoy profiles that say ‘no Blacks’. If they call it their preference or declare themselves not racist is just a bonus laugh. It’s just the way it’s written on profiles, the people sound hilariously stupid. I’m sure they’re not but their use of language makes them seen it. | |||
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"Can I put that I would meet Andrew Tate ,just incase he's browsing 😉 Sorry to break it to you, he’s gay luv" I don't mind lol | |||
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"Can I put that I would meet Andrew Tate ,just incase he's browsing 😉" Nothing makes me drier than that waste of oxygen tbh | |||
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"...let's say a man prefers blondes, that means on average he will be more attracted to blondes, however that doesn't mean he won't be attracted to brunettes or redheads..." Preference doesn't always correlate to attraction. The blondes have to be attracted to you too. "I know a handful of women that said it straightforward without hesitation " I won't meet Asian men...there's something about them that just gives me the ick"..." It's all down to the parlance. I much prefer it when women say something like "I'm only interested in caucasian and/or afro-caribbean", as opposed to saying "I'M NOT INTERESTED IN INDIANS/ASIANS!!!" because the latter becomes a 'loaded' remark aimed at those very people. It's hurtful, demeaning and, on this site, soul destroying. | |||
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"In my honest opinion, what you’re talking about, the way we use the word preference, is not that deep. I enjoy profiles that say ‘no Blacks’. If they call it their preference or declare themselves not racist is just a bonus laugh. It’s just the way it’s written on profiles, the people sound hilariously stupid. I’m sure they’re not but their use of language makes them seen it. " They’re not stupid, you just don’t like it. But you don’t mind when they say black guys/ BBC to the front.. which is also a… preference. What we get up to and facilitated by this website is incredibly intimate. Fuck any obligation to be inclusive because someone feels butt-hurt at being left out and excluded. Race, height, age, cock size, hair colour, weight, shape, marriage status, sexuality, gender.. you should be able to freely define who you want to be intimate with. This isn’t discrimination, it’s choice. | |||
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"In my honest opinion, what you’re talking about, the way we use the word preference, is not that deep. I enjoy profiles that say ‘no Blacks’. If they call it their preference or declare themselves not racist is just a bonus laugh. It’s just the way it’s written on profiles, the people sound hilariously stupid. I’m sure they’re not but their use of language makes them seen it. They’re not stupid, you just don’t like it. But you don’t mind when they say black guys/ BBC to the front.. which is also a… preference. " You don't know Pickle, do you? | |||
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"Does it matter?" Does it matter if it matters? Does any point of conversation matter? 🤔 | |||
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"Does it matter? Does it matter if it matters? Does any point of conversation matter? 🤔" It doesn’t matter if I know Pickle or not, calling people stupid because they have set filters (choices), defined likes (preferences) is just wrong. | |||
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"Can I put that I would meet Andrew Tate ,just incase he's browsing 😉 Nothing makes me drier than that waste of oxygen tbh" 🤣 | |||
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"In my honest opinion, what you’re talking about, the way we use the word preference, is not that deep. I enjoy profiles that say ‘no Blacks’. If they call it their preference or declare themselves not racist is just a bonus laugh. It’s just the way it’s written on profiles, the people sound hilariously stupid. I’m sure they’re not but their use of language makes them seen it. They’re not stupid, you just don’t like it. But you don’t mind when they say black guys/ BBC to the front.. which is also a… preference. What we get up to and facilitated by this website is incredibly intimate. Fuck any obligation to be inclusive because someone feels butt-hurt at being left out and excluded. Race, height, age, cock size, hair colour, weight, shape, marriage status, sexuality, gender.. you should be able to freely define who you want to be intimate with. This isn’t discrimination, it’s choice." My profile clearly states how I feel about people that use the BBC label or racially fetishise. Sorry but ‘no blacks’ reads like it was written by a stupid person. You could’ve at least checked my profile before assuming I think racial fetishisation is ok because it might benefit me. 
Your response to me is hilarious though. Excited for the next one. | |||
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"People only get offended by preference because it ultimately triggers their rejection complex. Nothing is personal on here and people would be happier if they just accepted that. They need to do the inner work, stop looking for justification and projecting their insecurities on to others. It's not that deep." Do you know what you've got a point. I wonder if that is why so many people lash out when rejected. As they can't handle and being rude and insulting in the face of rejection is a coping mechanism. | |||
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"In my honest opinion, what you’re talking about, the way we use the word preference, is not that deep. I enjoy profiles that say ‘no Blacks’. If they call it their preference or declare themselves not racist is just a bonus laugh. It’s just the way it’s written on profiles, the people sound hilariously stupid. I’m sure they’re not but their use of language makes them seen it. They’re not stupid, you just don’t like it. But you don’t mind when they say black guys/ BBC to the front.. which is also a… preference. You don't know Pickle, do you?" Literally my exact reaction | |||
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"In my honest opinion, what you’re talking about, the way we use the word preference, is not that deep. I enjoy profiles that say ‘no Blacks’. If they call it their preference or declare themselves not racist is just a bonus laugh. It’s just the way it’s written on profiles, the people sound hilariously stupid. I’m sure they’re not but their use of language makes them seen it. They’re not stupid, you just don’t like it. But you don’t mind when they say black guys/ BBC to the front.. which is also a… preference. You don't know Pickle, do you? Literally my exact reaction "Cos pickle is lovely.  | |||
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"Can I put that I would meet Andrew Tate ,just incase he's browsing 😉" Is that so he can sell you for sex to the highest bidder? | |||
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" My profile clearly states how I feel about people that use the BBC label or racially fetishise. You could’ve at least checked my profile before assuming I think racial fetishisation is ok because it might benefit me.
Your response to me is hilarious though. Excited for the next one. "I read your profile pickle and there’s nothing on there regarding how you feel about racial fetish. Maybe there was but it’s not there now… It doesn’t matter because a racial fetish is not the same as discrimination… Sexual Fantasy, Fetish, Kinks… they all transcend discrimination and the notional views of inclusivity. Vanilla world views of culture, race, gender, sexuality and inclusion don’t play out when it comes to sex. Are there rascist people on Fab - yes but defining sexual preferences is not always a racial issue. For example Pickle, do you want to have sex with Bi men, TS or TVs, CDs..? No? That’s your choice. No ones is going to rant at you for not being inclusive for these groups. | |||
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" My profile clearly states how I feel about people that use the BBC label or racially fetishise. You could’ve at least checked my profile before assuming I think racial fetishisation is ok because it might benefit me.
Your response to me is hilarious though. Excited for the next one.
I read your profile pickle and there’s nothing on there regarding how you feel about racial fetish.
Maybe there was but it’s not there now…
It doesn’t matter because a racial fetish is not the same as discrimination…
Sexual Fantasy, Fetish, Kinks… they all transcend discrimination and the notional views of inclusivity. Vanilla world views of culture, race, gender, sexuality and inclusion don’t play out when it comes to sex.
Are there rascist people on Fab - yes but defining sexual preferences is not always a racial issue.
For example Pickle, do you want to have sex with Bi men, TS or TVs, CDs..? No? That’s your choice. No ones is going to rant at you for not being inclusive for these groups."You’re quite right. It’s on my other profile but there is a link to it on this one 
Anyway I think you’re simply misunderstanding what I’m saying which is fine. Saying ‘No blacks’ to me, reads like a stupid person has written it. I don’t know any well educated, intelligent people that write like that.
By the way, racial fetishisation is racism. It’s rooted in racism. It comes from centuries of racism.
You’re saying a lot here and I’m not gonna lie, you’re arguing with points I’m not making. | |||
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"I appreciate that this might be a more delicate conversation about preference than your usual one, but nonetheless here we go... Firstly what is your understanding of preference? Because for me it's very simple ...let's say a man prefers blondes, that means on average he will be more attracted to blondes, however that doesn't mean he won't be attracted to brunettes or redheads...and same with women, let's say a woman prefers tall men, that means that on average she will be attracted to tall men, but that doesn't mean she wouldn't find some shorter men attractive...example : a woman that prefers tall men has the choice between a 6'2 Andrew Tate or a 5'8 Zac Efron, but she chooses Zac Efron because visually she sees him as more attractive even though he is shorter. Now there's another form of "preference " that is a bit more complicated... the " I will not meet men/women that look like xyz, just my preference" ... so for example a woman that doesn't want a short man, will either choose Andrew Tate or reject both Andrew Tate and Zac Efron. Now the complicated part is if you exclude a group of people solely for the way they look, is it a preference? Do not get me wrong, anyone has the right to meet whoever they want - I fully support that, but I think most of us get annoyed when it comes under this pretext of "preference ". I know a handful of women that said it straightforward without hesitation " I won't meet Asian men...there's something about them that just gives me the ick" , and you know what, more power to those women, I respect your choice, as long as it is not followed by "it's just my preference ". You wouldn't say "I don't meet Andrew Tate fans, it's just my preference ", you would simply exclude Andrew Tate fans...it's not a preference it is a full exclusion (which again it is perfectly in your right to do so). And sure this might be just a technicality with the way we use the word "preference", but nonetheless... ...ladies and gents I personally think it's fine to put in your bio stuff like "I don't meet short/fat/white/asian/black/blond/ginger men/women" without putting the "it's just my preference " at the end (instead just put "I just don't like them like that" 🤭). " The trouble with preference is certainly in the wording of it their is no flexibility ,you either exclude them all or exclude them all and the beauty is you don't have to give a reason it's a preference, so not absolutely sure what this threads about but good luck with fathoming it out . | |||
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" My profile clearly states how I feel about people that use the BBC label or racially fetishise. You could’ve at least checked my profile before assuming I think racial fetishisation is ok because it might benefit me.
Your response to me is hilarious though. Excited for the next one.
I read your profile pickle and there’s nothing on there regarding how you feel about racial fetish.
Maybe there was but it’s not there now…
It doesn’t matter because a racial fetish is not the same as discrimination…
Sexual Fantasy, Fetish, Kinks… they all transcend discrimination and the notional views of inclusivity. Vanilla world views of culture, race, gender, sexuality and inclusion don’t play out when it comes to sex.
Are there rascist people on Fab - yes but defining sexual preferences is not always a racial issue.
For example Pickle, do you want to have sex with Bi men, TS or TVs, CDs..? No? That’s your choice. No ones is going to rant at you for not being inclusive for these groups.
You’re quite right. It’s on my other profile but there is a link to it on this one
Anyway I think you’re simply misunderstanding what I’m saying which is fine. Saying ‘No blacks’ to me, reads like a stupid person has written it. I don’t know any well educated, intelligent people that write like that.
By the way, racial fetishisation is racism. It’s rooted in racism. It comes from centuries of racism.
You’re saying a lot here and I’m not gonna lie, you’re arguing with points I’m not making. "Fair enough, “no blacks” is jarring and hardly subtle and I get your point. | |||
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"People only get offended by preference because it ultimately triggers their rejection complex. Nothing is personal on here and people would be happier if they just accepted that. They need to do the inner work, stop looking for justification and projecting their insecurities on to others. It's not that deep." Disagree with this comment. I'm not black or Asian but a profile that says no blacks or no Asians is an instant block for me. I'm as Caucasian as they come, blue eyes, blonde etc and clearly have no rejection issues from such people. I just see this type of language as a sign of a personality I won't like. P | |||
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"Not sure it's a debacle tbh. Everyone has preferences, and if you don't match them then you can't throw your toys out of your pram because they won't fuck you. Grow up and move on" 💯  | |||
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"Can I put that I would meet Andrew Tate ,just incase he's browsing 😉 Sorry to break it to you, he’s gay luv" He just got hotter. | |||
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"Is it really a debacle? It kinda sounds like you've just used a lot of words to say that your annoyed that some people won't meet Asian men and use the word preference to explain their choices. Preference is used in context. The context is some people don't want to meet certain races, sizes, political affiliations, ad infinitum and don't care what other people think. I agree it's not always nice and people's choice of words do make them look stupid as noted above. It's easy to express preferences without being aggressive, insulting or racist. I don't think the actual word matters much though. I see a decent few posts from Asian men on the same subject. Where's it coming from?" Nothing to do with political correctness or racism or any form of "ism". Also I'm not Asian ...also I said it in the OP and will say it again, I do not mind if someone is excluding some people or all people or just me...irrelevant.
It is simply the fact that exclusivity is not the same as preference and people know that but still use it as a protection bubble. When someone says "I don't want to be friends with black people...it's just my preference " ...that for me is not a preference (it's an exclusion) and I would call them out on it...not because they don't want to be friends with black people (that is their choice) but because they use "preference " as an attempt to not appear in a specific way. If you say to me "I don't want to be friends with trans people " ....I'd say cool I'm not trans so we can still socialise, and that's the end of it, but if you use "preference " as the reason for not wanting trans friends, I'd look you in the eye and tell you exclusion is not a preference. | |||
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"Also exclusion is absolutely a preference. It's the actual definition of the word." I think this is wrong. An absolute preference s u describe is an oxymoron. My dog has an absolute preference for chasing squirrels over being recalled. That is, when presented with a choice of squirrel or recall, he will always choose squirrel. This doesn't mean he never chooses recall. Given an option of approaching human or recall, he will choose recall. An absolute preference does not (as you suggest) mean that a person will always choose one thing at all times, only that when placed against other, specific, choices it will always be chosen. P | |||
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"Save the eye roll. You singled out Asian men as an example. I mentioned that many Asian men make similar posts and they do. I didn't suggest you were Asian " | |||
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"Also exclusion is absolutely a preference. It's the actual definition of the word." 🤔 time to get out the ole Oxford dictionary | |||
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"Save the eye roll. You singled out Asian men as an example. I mentioned that many Asian men make similar posts and they do. I didn't suggest you were Asian " | |||
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"There’s fine line between preference and standards. Many here, in my opinion, that I’ve witnessed… have next to no standards, so I imagine their preference would be… a pulse." Love this... | |||
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"Also exclusion is absolutely a preference. It's the actual definition of the word. 🤔 time to get out the ole Oxford dictionary " I'm a Mirriam Webster guy myself. Honestly though. People use words in all sorts of ways and in general everyone knows that they mean. I'm terms of fab it kind just means 'I'm not going to fuck you'. | |||
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"Also exclusion is absolutely a preference. It's the actual definition of the word. 🤔 time to get out the ole Oxford dictionary I'm a Mirriam Webster guy myself. Honestly though. People use words in all sorts of ways and in general everyone knows that they mean. I'm terms of fab it kind just means 'I'm not going to fuck you'." Ah I dunno. I’ve veered outside of my preferences many times and had a good time in doing so. I just have a few things that make me really 🤤 🤤 But I’d never limit myself to just my preferences. Blimey I’d never have the sex  | |||
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"Also exclusion is absolutely a preference. It's the actual definition of the word. 🤔 time to get out the ole Oxford dictionary I'm a Mirriam Webster guy myself. Honestly though. People use words in all sorts of ways and in general everyone knows that they mean. I'm terms of fab it kind just means 'I'm not going to fuck you'. Ah I dunno. I’ve veered outside of my preferences many times and had a good time in doing so. I just have a few things that make me really 🤤 🤤 But I’d never limit myself to just my preferences. Blimey I’d never have the sex "I get you. I just meant in terms of the OP's exclusionary and absolute context. If your Asian and the profile says no Asian men. That's that. And I think that is a preference even if it's a little unsubtle. Just like lots of profiles say Not looking for single men. | |||
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"preference noun pref·er·ence {¬y4g=¬}pre-f{¬yZk=¬}rn(t)s, {¬y4g=¬}pre-f({¬yZk=¬}-)r{¬yZk=¬}n(t)s Synonyms of preference 1 a : the act of preferring : the state of being preferred b : the power or opportunity of choosing 2 : one that is preferred 3 : the act, fact, or principle of giving advantages to some over others 4 : priority in the right to demand and receive satisfaction of an obligation 5 offensive; see usage paragraph below : ORIENTATION sense 2b sexual preference Usage of Preference The term preference as used to refer to sexual orientation is widely considered offensive in its implied suggestion that a person can choose who they are sexually or romantically attracted to. Merriam-Webster" No ..It isn't 🤷♂️ | |||
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"I think the issue is hiding behind a word in order to appear less bigoted, phobic, racist etc.. Nothing wrong with being any of those. The issue is trying to hide and pretend you aren't, just so you can appear a better version of the person than you actually are." I think saying you have a preference in a way is providing more information than you need ,if you don't want to meet them just filter them out in the messaging process . | |||
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