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"Patience is key "This thread is dead, find me over on “tits or arse”. | |||
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"I'm making poppies with my nursery kids. If I don't no one else will. Made a tuff tray with soldiers, poppies, tanks tea lights for fires. Sometimes it's more "convenient" to forget but people gave their lives for our freedom. I'll never forget those who fought in the past, I'll never fail to appreciate those fighting at the present and I pray no one has to fight in the future. " This is good, I remember years ago, my nephew told me he was asked to take his poppy off in school, i couldn’t believe it! School was contacted and they apologised and it never happened again but I thought it was outrageous. | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit " Sorry but I cant see why they need a seperate memorial tbh What has a persons sexuality got to do with those poor lads loosing their lives, i think of everyone in those 2 minutes Hope thats come across ok, not looking for a argument just stating my opinion | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit " First I’m hearing about this, are memorials for non LGBT+ different than memorials for LGBT+? Aside from rainbow flags, surely sex and gender identity doesn’t come into it when it comes to Remembrance Day services? | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit Sorry but I cant see why they need a seperate memorial tbh What has a persons sexuality got to do with those poor lads loosing their lives, i think of everyone in those 2 minutes Hope thats come across ok, not looking for a argument just stating my opinion" It has a lot to do with them losing their lives. Look up what they did to Alan Turing. And if you’re looking for a book that I think does a great job at talking about it, In Memoriam is great. It’s based in WW1. | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit First I’m hearing about this, are memorials for non LGBT+ different than memorials for LGBT+? Aside from rainbow flags, surely sex and gender identity doesn’t come into it when it comes to Remembrance Day services? " You asked me my plans and I’m telling you my plans  | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit First I’m hearing about this, are memorials for non LGBT+ different than memorials for LGBT+? Aside from rainbow flags, surely sex and gender identity doesn’t come into it when it comes to Remembrance Day services? You asked me my plans and I’m telling you my plans "I saw, I was asking a genuine question. 🤷🏻♂️ | |||
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"People were still being forced out of the military for being gay until 2000. They were sent to prison for being gay during WW1..The memorial is partly to do with making amends for that. " I guess I just don’t see how it makes amends, or how remembering fallen soldiers at a regular memorial is any different than remembering fallen soldiers at an LBGT+ memorial. But it’s 2024 and I’m white and straight, who am I to question anything. | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit Sorry but I cant see why they need a seperate memorial tbh What has a persons sexuality got to do with those poor lads loosing their lives, i think of everyone in those 2 minutes Hope thats come across ok, not looking for a argument just stating my opinion It has a lot to do with them losing their lives. Look up what they did to Alan Turing. And if you’re looking for a book that I think does a great job at talking about it, In Memoriam is great. It’s based in WW1." What who did to Alan Turing ? Yes he was treated terrible, but not by the soldiers who went and fought - completely different argument | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit Sorry but I cant see why they need a seperate memorial tbh What has a persons sexuality got to do with those poor lads loosing their lives, i think of everyone in those 2 minutes Hope thats come across ok, not looking for a argument just stating my opinion It has a lot to do with them losing their lives. Look up what they did to Alan Turing. And if you’re looking for a book that I think does a great job at talking about it, In Memoriam is great. It’s based in WW1. What who did to Alan Turing ? Yes he was treated terrible, but not by the soldiers who went and fought - completely different argument" He was given the choice of chemical castration or prison, after he was found out to be gay, as it was illegal then. He committed suicide shortly after, but yes, completely unrelated to Remembrance Day, in my opinion. | |||
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"People were still being forced out of the military for being gay until 2000. They were sent to prison for being gay during WW1..The memorial is partly to do with making amends for that. I guess I just don’t see how it makes amends, or how remembering fallen soldiers at a regular memorial is any different than remembering fallen soldiers at an LBGT+ memorial. But it’s 2024 and I’m white and straight, who am I to question anything. " Neither do I. At all | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit Sorry but I cant see why they need a seperate memorial tbh What has a persons sexuality got to do with those poor lads loosing their lives, i think of everyone in those 2 minutes Hope thats come across ok, not looking for a argument just stating my opinion It has a lot to do with them losing their lives. Look up what they did to Alan Turing. And if you’re looking for a book that I think does a great job at talking about it, In Memoriam is great. It’s based in WW1. What who did to Alan Turing ? Yes he was treated terrible, but not by the soldiers who went and fought - completely different argument" . It was terrible. But nothing to do with Remembrance Sunday | |||
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"Is no subject safe from the woke, lefties, snowflakes and easily offended. Pay your respect to those who gave their lives, black, white, straight or gay and stop looking for ways to be hurt, offended or special. LEST WE FORGET. " Seems like you’re the only offended one here  | |||
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"Wouldn’t it be fucking awesome if everyone was allowed to remember WHO they like, and HOW they like, WHEN they like. Instead of criticising a choice you don’t agree with, just keep ya trap shut and move along. Fuck sake. "Thank you so much  | |||
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"To answer your OP- it is just another day for me. " Yes, similar for me, not in a derogatory way but it’s just another day, it will be in my mind as I go about my business but I don’t do anything specific. | |||
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"On a Black history walking tour I went on last week I found out about John Henry Clavell Smythe QC MBE. Look him up. His story is one I’d never heard and one I was never taught in school. It is now in a GCSE textbook as of 2020 I believe. That’s something I’m going to remember. " Just looked him up, what an incredible life he had | |||
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"On a Black history walking tour I went on last week I found out about John Henry Clavell Smythe QC MBE. Look him up. His story is one I’d never heard and one I was never taught in school. It is now in a GCSE textbook as of 2020 I believe. That’s something I’m going to remember. " I’m aware of him, he was a pilot right? I understand why certain stories and people mean more to some than to others, but for me personally - skin colour, sexual preference, gender, don’t have anything to do with it. When my friends were killed, the IED’s or rounds that killed them couldn’t give two squirts of piss what genitals they chewed on or what their skin colour was. When my great uncle told me stories and showed me his medals and telegrams he never mentioned the sexuality or skin colour of his friends, nor did it cross my mind. I get that it’s each to their own and I respect that. But I’ll be at the cenotaph not caring who’s next to me paying their respects or wondering who they’re going to be bumming that night. I’ll do my silence, remember the men and women of old, remember my friends, then go get shitfaced, on German beer. | |||
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"I'm making poppies with my nursery kids. If I don't no one else will. Made a tuff tray with soldiers, poppies, tanks tea lights for fires. Sometimes it's more "convenient" to forget but people gave their lives for our freedom. I'll never forget those who fought in the past, I'll never fail to appreciate those fighting at the present and I pray no one has to fight in the future. " Love that. | |||
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"Personally, I’m heading into Manchester City centre with a couple of current police/ex mil, first one I’ve been home for in a few years so I’m looking forwards to it, Anybody going to any services/parades or doing anything? Or is it just another day? Feel free to send nudes while we discuss." will probably go to the remembrance service held in front of the big map and memorial to railway personnel who lost Thier lives lead by the railway vicar at Manchester Victoria b | |||
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"Is no subject safe from the woke, lefties, snowflakes and easily offended. Pay your respect to those who gave their lives, black, white, straight or gay and stop looking for ways to be hurt, offended or special. LEST WE FORGET. Seems like you’re the only offended one here "I have to be honest and say I am in some respects - though not all - though I may have misread you. I believe our military serves to protect free speech and people's rights. I also believe the Gay community in the forces was treated terribly in the past. I also believe Alan Turing was despicably treated by this country. I'm incredibly glad the ban was lifted - it made no sense based on the way we see things now. Thank god we've moved on. I'm proud of my LGBTQ+ friends, especially those who serve, or have done so. I have to admit that I'm struggling to understand why you wouldn't do "anything in particular" to mark remembrance normally, but would absolutely make a trip to memorial that's only for the LGBTQ+ community. I don't want to make assumptions- nor do you owe me anything - but I have to admit the fact that (if I'm reading it correctly) you'll only do it for LGBTQ+ people troubless me a bit. Everyone who has lost their lives in conflict is equally worthy and commemorated on the same day - or are they? I've never quite understood that train of thought. Can you enlighten me please? For a community that's rightly getting a lot more recognition and acceptance in so many areas I find it odd that many within it go out of their way to be divisive on occasion. Suggesting you'll only go out of your way for LGBTQ+ people appears to do that at face value......but having served I'd absolutely defend your right to choose without prejudice. | |||
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"On a Black history walking tour I went on last week I found out about John Henry Clavell Smythe QC MBE. Look him up. His story is one I’d never heard and one I was never taught in school. It is now in a GCSE textbook as of 2020 I believe. That’s something I’m going to remember. I’m aware of him, he was a pilot right? I understand why certain stories and people mean more to some than to others, but for me personally - skin colour, sexual preference, gender, don’t have anything to do with it. When my friends were killed, the IED’s or rounds that killed them couldn’t give two squirts of piss what genitals they chewed on or what their skin colour was. When my great uncle told me stories and showed me his medals and telegrams he never mentioned the sexuality or skin colour of his friends, nor did it cross my mind. I get that it’s each to their own and I respect that. But I’ll be at the cenotaph not caring who’s next to me paying their respects or wondering who they’re going to be bumming that night. I’ll do my silence, remember the men and women of old, remember my friends, then go get shitfaced, on German beer. " Amen Brother. | |||
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"Is no subject safe from the woke, lefties, snowflakes and easily offended. Pay your respect to those who gave their lives, black, white, straight or gay and stop looking for ways to be hurt, offended or special. LEST WE FORGET. Seems like you’re the only offended one here
I have to be honest and say I am in some respects - though not all - though I may have misread you.
I believe our military serves to protect free speech and people's rights.
I also believe the Gay community in the forces was treated terribly in the past.
I also believe Alan Turing was despicably treated by this country.
I'm incredibly glad the ban was lifted - it made no sense based on the way we see things now. Thank god we've moved on. I'm proud of my LGBTQ+ friends, especially those who serve, or have done so.
I have to admit that I'm struggling to understand why you wouldn't do "anything in particular" to mark remembrance normally, but would absolutely make a trip to memorial that's only for the LGBTQ+ community.
I don't want to make assumptions- nor do you owe me anything - but I have to admit the fact that (if I'm reading it correctly) you'll only do it for LGBTQ+ people troubless me a bit. Everyone who has lost their lives in conflict is equally worthy and commemorated on the same day - or are they?
I've never quite understood that train of thought. Can you enlighten me please? For a community that's rightly getting a lot more recognition and acceptance in so many areas I find it odd that many within it go out of their way to be divisive on occasion. Suggesting you'll only go out of your way for LGBTQ+ people appears to do that at face value......but having served I'd absolutely defend your right to choose without prejudice.
"Did I say I was just going for the memorial? It’s a museum, no? I’m not going to walk like a horse with blinkers on its eyes. And I said I’m not doing anything this year. Not that I haven’t done anything in previous years. And even if I was going just to see the LGBT memorial, it shouldn’t bother you or anyone else. It’s my life and I’m free to do whatever I want, just like how it’s your life and you’re free to do whatever you want. The op asked my plans, I told him my plans. Why has it turned into a massive debate? I answered a question. | |||
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"Is no subject safe from the woke, lefties, snowflakes and easily offended. Pay your respect to those who gave their lives, black, white, straight or gay and stop looking for ways to be hurt, offended or special. LEST WE FORGET. Seems like you’re the only offended one here
I have to be honest and say I am in some respects - though not all - though I may have misread you.
I believe our military serves to protect free speech and people's rights.
I also believe the Gay community in the forces was treated terribly in the past.
I also believe Alan Turing was despicably treated by this country.
I'm incredibly glad the ban was lifted - it made no sense based on the way we see things now. Thank god we've moved on. I'm proud of my LGBTQ+ friends, especially those who serve, or have done so.
I have to admit that I'm struggling to understand why you wouldn't do "anything in particular" to mark remembrance normally, but would absolutely make a trip to memorial that's only for the LGBTQ+ community.
I don't want to make assumptions- nor do you owe me anything - but I have to admit the fact that (if I'm reading it correctly) you'll only do it for LGBTQ+ people troubless me a bit. Everyone who has lost their lives in conflict is equally worthy and commemorated on the same day - or are they?
I've never quite understood that train of thought. Can you enlighten me please? For a community that's rightly getting a lot more recognition and acceptance in so many areas I find it odd that many within it go out of their way to be divisive on occasion. Suggesting you'll only go out of your way for LGBTQ+ people appears to do that at face value......but having served I'd absolutely defend your right to choose without prejudice.
Did I say I was just going for the memorial? It’s a museum, no? I’m not going to walk like a horse with blinkers on its eyes.
And I said I’m not doing anything this year. Not that I haven’t done anything in previous years.
And even if I was going just to see the LGBT memorial, it shouldn’t bother you or anyone else. It’s my life and I’m free to do whatever I want, just like how it’s your life and you’re free to do whatever you want.
The op asked my plans, I told him my plans. Why has it turned into a massive debate? I answered a question. "Just asking one myself - respectfully and politely. | |||
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"I realise what I did here… I made a grown up mature post, my bad, won’t happen again. " To be fair you did finish it off asking for nudes lol | |||
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"Is no subject safe from the woke, lefties, snowflakes and easily offended. Pay your respect to those who gave their lives, black, white, straight or gay and stop looking for ways to be hurt, offended or special. LEST WE FORGET. Seems like you’re the only offended one here
I have to be honest and say I am in some respects - though not all - though I may have misread you.
I believe our military serves to protect free speech and people's rights.
I also believe the Gay community in the forces was treated terribly in the past.
I also believe Alan Turing was despicably treated by this country.
I'm incredibly glad the ban was lifted - it made no sense based on the way we see things now. Thank god we've moved on. I'm proud of my LGBTQ+ friends, especially those who serve, or have done so.
I have to admit that I'm struggling to understand why you wouldn't do "anything in particular" to mark remembrance normally, but would absolutely make a trip to memorial that's only for the LGBTQ+ community.
I don't want to make assumptions- nor do you owe me anything - but I have to admit the fact that (if I'm reading it correctly) you'll only do it for LGBTQ+ people troubless me a bit. Everyone who has lost their lives in conflict is equally worthy and commemorated on the same day - or are they?
I've never quite understood that train of thought. Can you enlighten me please? For a community that's rightly getting a lot more recognition and acceptance in so many areas I find it odd that many within it go out of their way to be divisive on occasion. Suggesting you'll only go out of your way for LGBTQ+ people appears to do that at face value......but having served I'd absolutely defend your right to choose without prejudice.
Did I say I was just going for the memorial? It’s a museum, no? I’m not going to walk like a horse with blinkers on its eyes.
And I said I’m not doing anything this year. Not that I haven’t done anything in previous years.
And even if I was going just to see the LGBT memorial, it shouldn’t bother you or anyone else. It’s my life and I’m free to do whatever I want, just like how it’s your life and you’re free to do whatever you want.
The op asked my plans, I told him my plans. Why has it turned into a massive debate? I answered a question.
Just asking one myself - respectfully and politely. "Then you could have messaged me 🤷🏻♂️ | |||
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"Wasn't this supposed to be about remembering the fallen. Pretty disrespectful t bringing an agenda to the conversation. By saying you'll only be remembering certain things is pretty narrow minded. I thank EVERYONE who has served and still serves regardless of colour, gender and sexuality. " 100 % | |||
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"I’m going to try and get my dad out to the cenotaph. He never misses it but he had a heart attack two weeks ago. Will be his first outing. 💪🏻 He’s an amazing man, retired from the forces years ago but helps veterans from all walks of life in a support group with their mental wellbeing. I’m very proud of him. ♥️ " Sounds like a wonderful man, and I hope he makes a full recovery. | |||
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"I realise what I did here… I made a grown up mature post, my bad, won’t happen again. To be fair you did finish it off asking for nudes lol" Just keeping it real. | |||
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"I’m going to try and get my dad out to the cenotaph. He never misses it but he had a heart attack two weeks ago. Will be his first outing. 💪🏻 He’s an amazing man, retired from the forces years ago but helps veterans from all walks of life in a support group with their mental wellbeing. I’m very proud of him. ♥️ " So you should be, sounds like a wonderful man | |||
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"I’m going to try and get my dad out to the cenotaph. He never misses it but he had a heart attack two weeks ago. Will be his first outing. 💪🏻 He’s an amazing man, retired from the forces years ago but helps veterans from all walks of life in a support group with their mental wellbeing. I’m very proud of him. ♥️ " I don't know you or your dad's personal circumstances, but if it would help him, don't forget you can hire a wheelchair from the Red Cross or Mobility centres. | |||
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"….every day is Remembrance Day " Amen to that.....for some of us. | |||
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"My sons match had a minutes silence before kick off this morning. Will be paying our respects tomorrow with family and friends then off to the steel city derby day. " ❤️ | |||
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"I’m going to try and get my dad out to the cenotaph. He never misses it but he had a heart attack two weeks ago. Will be his first outing. 💪🏻 He’s an amazing man, retired from the forces years ago but helps veterans from all walks of life in a support group with their mental wellbeing. I’m very proud of him. ♥️ " God bless him. There are organisations that assist with this. Some veterans and service personnel volunteer to assist and London Cabbies don't charge to get you there. | |||
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"I’m going to try and get my dad out to the cenotaph. He never misses it but he had a heart attack two weeks ago. Will be his first outing. 💪🏻 He’s an amazing man, retired from the forces years ago but helps veterans from all walks of life in a support group with their mental wellbeing. I’m very proud of him. ♥️ God bless him. There are organisations that assist with this. Some veterans and service personnel volunteer to assist and London Cabbies don't charge to get you there. " ....and respects to your Dad. | |||
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"I’m going to try and get my dad out to the cenotaph. He never misses it but he had a heart attack two weeks ago. Will be his first outing. 💪🏻 He’s an amazing man, retired from the forces years ago but helps veterans from all walks of life in a support group with their mental wellbeing. I’m very proud of him. ♥️ " Hugs to you both xx | |||
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"Tomorrow will be the first memorial Sunday since my nan died back in August, so I’ll be remembering both my Nan and Grandad. Grandad served in the Royal Horse Artillery, whereas my Nan served in the Civil Defence Service who, sadly, remembered a little boy losing his life in a raid, and kept mentioning him in the weeks up to when she died. "God bless 'em both. What a generation! | |||
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"My plans have changed and i AM doing something tomorrow now "❤️❤️ | |||
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"Tomorrow will be the first memorial Sunday since my nan died back in August, so I’ll be remembering both my Nan and Grandad. Grandad served in the Royal Horse Artillery, whereas my Nan served in the Civil Defence Service who, sadly, remembered a little boy losing his life in a raid, and kept mentioning him in the weeks up to when she died. "May that little boy never be forgotten. | |||
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"My grandad was a navigator on a Lancaster bomber from the start to finish of WW2. One of a very small percentage of crew to make it all the way through the war. He was such a lovely man, I have so many fond memories. He didn't ever want to speak about his time served, other than my gran mentioning his chums I have no knowledge of it. My cousin will offer his medals to a museum when he passes. My gran still went out dancing whilst he was serving, with his full knowledge. She was manageress of a shop during the war, and they provided paid childcare for her to come back after sales turned to shit (unheard of then). A power couple of their time, and I miss them both 😊" The medals bit - Not that he was 'all that', or anything more than anyone else serving at the time. He just happened to have a series of pics taken by Cecil Beaton. So it's more a common kinda interest thing based purely on that | |||
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"It's just another day" It's just another day - but also not just another day. I think it's important that we don't forget and acknowledge the lives lost in a world war. There's still many a war happening, and will happen in the future. It's a pretty shitty way to go really? One day you're living your life. The next it's snatched from you for no reason other than someone's kicking off with someone else, and we all get dragged into the fray... My cousin volunteered for body recovery in Serbia many years ago. Whole families just piled into a mass grave with others. No knowing where they'd gone/ended up, no respite to being able to acknowledge grieving... Personally I don't think it's just another day. It's recognising that if wars happen (especially world wars), then multiple lives are cut short. Families suffer, entire communities suffer. It's bigger than just 'you, or me'. It's about considering 'yeah, we fucked up. We let folk in power dictate that move, and we blindly followed that path because we had no choice'. If a letter came through my door tomorrow stating they were taking my child to fight to their death. I'd be pissed. I'd be furious! I'd want this to not happen?!... But that was the way it was, and may in our lifetime be again, sadly. | |||
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"I'm making poppies with my nursery kids. If I don't no one else will. Made a tuff tray with soldiers, poppies, tanks tea lights for fires. Sometimes it's more "convenient" to forget but people gave their lives for our freedom. I'll never forget those who fought in the past, I'll never fail to appreciate those fighting at the present and I pray no one has to fight in the future. " Thank you. | |||
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"Yes I'm doing stuff with work so that little ones know what it's about and we'll be observing a silence on Monday. Our son is taking part in the local parade with Scouts. " Thank you. | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit " It makes me feel quite sad to think that the LGBT community feels the need to do this. In a world where those very communities claim to be striving for inclusivity, they are consistently becoming more and more divisive. Our ancestors fought and died as one for us and in order to liberate Europe. They all bravely fought side by side for their children, for their families and for what they believed in. Regardless of their sexualities, they all deserve our equal respect. I just don't think this is an appropriate event for promoting LGBT agendas. This genuinely is about paying respects to ALL those who died for us, and it's purposely been designed that way. What I don't get about this modern day concept of "inclusivity" and political correctness, is why do they consistently seek to exclude/dismiss straight white guys? Either way, I hope everybody has a good day. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit It makes me feel quite sad to think that the LGBT community feels the need to do this. In a world where those very communities claim to be striving for inclusivity, they are consistently becoming more and more divisive. Our ancestors fought and died as one for us and in order to liberate Europe. They all bravely fought side by side for their children, for their families and for what they believed in. Regardless of their sexualities, they all deserve our equal respect. I just don't think this is an appropriate event for promoting LGBT agendas. This genuinely is about paying respects to ALL those who died for us, and it's purposely been designed that way. What I don't get about this modern day concept of "inclusivity" and political correctness, is why do they consistently seek to exclude/dismiss straight white guys? Either way, I hope everybody has a good day. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️" I don't think it is? It's an art exhibit that they were on about? Which I totally get. The issues in the past surrounding the exclusion/targeting of lgbt folk in the past in the military is well known, and it's great it's being identified as moving on from this/celebrating/recognising those who suffered/hid their sexuality as a result... And let's be honest there are/were many that do! The forces aren't known for their excepting nature of women/gays. Or anyone who sits outside the 'mould' if we're really honest... All that said, there have no doubt for generations been gay folk in the services. Some will have been freaky acknowledged and accepted as such. Others hidden it as for fear of being shuned... But being gay didn't just happen in 2000. It's not a new event, and many for many centuries have just cracked on straight/bi/gay/asexual/pansexual... And not had an issue, because you know, who they choose to shag is not the world's business  | |||
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"It's just another day It's just another day - but also not just another day. I think it's important that we don't forget and acknowledge the lives lost in a world war. There's still many a war happening, and will happen in the future. It's a pretty shitty way to go really? One day you're living your life. The next it's snatched from you for no reason other than someone's kicking off with someone else, and we all get dragged into the fray... My cousin volunteered for body recovery in Serbia many years ago. Whole families just piled into a mass grave with others. No knowing where they'd gone/ended up, no respite to being able to acknowledge grieving... Personally I don't think it's just another day. It's recognising that if wars happen (especially world wars), then multiple lives are cut short. Families suffer, entire communities suffer. It's bigger than just 'you, or me'. It's about considering 'yeah, we fucked up. We let folk in power dictate that move, and we blindly followed that path because we had no choice'. If a letter came through my door tomorrow stating they were taking my child to fight to their death. I'd be pissed. I'd be furious! I'd want this to not happen?!... But that was the way it was, and may in our lifetime be again, sadly. " The O.P. asked ..... are you doing anything ? Is it just another day? I answered for ME. It is just another day for ME. | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit It makes me feel quite sad to think that the LGBT community feels the need to do this. In a world where those very communities claim to be striving for inclusivity, they are consistently becoming more and more divisive. Our ancestors fought and died as one for us and in order to liberate Europe. They all bravely fought side by side for their children, for their families and for what they believed in. Regardless of their sexualities, they all deserve our equal respect. I just don't think this is an appropriate event for promoting LGBT agendas. This genuinely is about paying respects to ALL those who died for us, and it's purposely been designed that way. What I don't get about this modern day concept of "inclusivity" and political correctness, is why do they consistently seek to exclude/dismiss straight white guys? Either way, I hope everybody has a good day. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️" The LGBT community isn’t making it. It’s being made to make amends for the way LGBT soldiers were treated. Me saying I’m doing something for LGBT doesn’t mean I’m not doing something for every else. It’s not pie, we can all have a slice. Take your weird agenda of being rude to gay people elsewhere. (P.S. being lgbt isnt an agenda. Just like how being straight and white isn’t an agenda. It’s just our lives.) | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit It makes me feel quite sad to think that the LGBT community feels the need to do this. In a world where those very communities claim to be striving for inclusivity, they are consistently becoming more and more divisive. Our ancestors fought and died as one for us and in order to liberate Europe. They all bravely fought side by side for their children, for their families and for what they believed in. Regardless of their sexualities, they all deserve our equal respect. I just don't think this is an appropriate event for promoting LGBT agendas. This genuinely is about paying respects to ALL those who died for us, and it's purposely been designed that way. What I don't get about this modern day concept of "inclusivity" and political correctness, is why do they consistently seek to exclude/dismiss straight white guys? Either way, I hope everybody has a good day. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ The LGBT community isn’t making it. It’s being made to make amends for the way LGBT soldiers were treated. Me saying I’m doing something for LGBT doesn’t mean I’m not doing something for every else. It’s not pie, we can all have a slice. Take your weird agenda of being rude to gay people elsewhere. (P.S. being lgbt isnt an agenda. Just like how being straight and white isn’t an agenda. It’s just our lives.) " I read your initial post and it came across to me as "I can't be arsed this year but I'll wait until its a bit more about me before I'll put the effort in" This is one time when its not about ourselves. It's recognising and remembering those that sacrificed so much for all our freedoms and continue to do so. | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit It makes me feel quite sad to think that the LGBT community feels the need to do this. In a world where those very communities claim to be striving for inclusivity, they are consistently becoming more and more divisive. Our ancestors fought and died as one for us and in order to liberate Europe. They all bravely fought side by side for their children, for their families and for what they believed in. Regardless of their sexualities, they all deserve our equal respect. I just don't think this is an appropriate event for promoting LGBT agendas. This genuinely is about paying respects to ALL those who died for us, and it's purposely been designed that way. What I don't get about this modern day concept of "inclusivity" and political correctness, is why do they consistently seek to exclude/dismiss straight white guys? Either way, I hope everybody has a good day. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ The LGBT community isn’t making it. It’s being made to make amends for the way LGBT soldiers were treated. Me saying I’m doing something for LGBT doesn’t mean I’m not doing something for every else. It’s not pie, we can all have a slice. Take your weird agenda of being rude to gay people elsewhere. (P.S. being lgbt isnt an agenda. Just like how being straight and white isn’t an agenda. It’s just our lives.) I read your initial post and it came across to me as "I can't be arsed this year but I'll wait until its a bit more about me before I'll put the effort in" This is one time when its not about ourselves. It's recognising and remembering those that sacrificed so much for all our freedoms and continue to do so. " Okay, but it’s not like that, so people getting angry at me need to stop. I literally said further down the thread that I’m doing something now because my plans have changed. The OP asked a question, I answered the question. It shouldn’t bother anyone what I’m doing, just like it doesn’t bother me what anyone else is doing. | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit It makes me feel quite sad to think that the LGBT community feels the need to do this. In a world where those very communities claim to be striving for inclusivity, they are consistently becoming more and more divisive. Our ancestors fought and died as one for us and in order to liberate Europe. They all bravely fought side by side for their children, for their families and for what they believed in. Regardless of their sexualities, they all deserve our equal respect. I just don't think this is an appropriate event for promoting LGBT agendas. This genuinely is about paying respects to ALL those who died for us, and it's purposely been designed that way. What I don't get about this modern day concept of "inclusivity" and political correctness, is why do they consistently seek to exclude/dismiss straight white guys? Either way, I hope everybody has a good day. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ The LGBT community isn’t making it. It’s being made to make amends for the way LGBT soldiers were treated. Me saying I’m doing something for LGBT doesn’t mean I’m not doing something for every else. It’s not pie, we can all have a slice. Take your weird agenda of being rude to gay people elsewhere. (P.S. being lgbt isnt an agenda. Just like how being straight and white isn’t an agenda. It’s just our lives.) I read your initial post and it came across to me as "I can't be arsed this year but I'll wait until its a bit more about me before I'll put the effort in" This is one time when its not about ourselves. It's recognising and remembering those that sacrificed so much for all our freedoms and continue to do so. Okay, but it’s not like that, so people getting angry at me need to stop. I literally said further down the thread that I’m doing something now because my plans have changed. The OP asked a question, I answered the question. It shouldn’t bother anyone what I’m doing, just like it doesn’t bother me what anyone else is doing." I'm not angry at you, you're just you being you. I admire your passion on your posts and you are a great spokesperson for the LBGT+ community. I believe Remembrance Sunday is for remembering all of the fallen, not just the ones we feel connected to. | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit It makes me feel quite sad to think that the LGBT community feels the need to do this. In a world where those very communities claim to be striving for inclusivity, they are consistently becoming more and more divisive. Our ancestors fought and died as one for us and in order to liberate Europe. They all bravely fought side by side for their children, for their families and for what they believed in. Regardless of their sexualities, they all deserve our equal respect. I just don't think this is an appropriate event for promoting LGBT agendas. This genuinely is about paying respects to ALL those who died for us, and it's purposely been designed that way. What I don't get about this modern day concept of "inclusivity" and political correctness, is why do they consistently seek to exclude/dismiss straight white guys? Either way, I hope everybody has a good day. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ The LGBT community isn’t making it. It’s being made to make amends for the way LGBT soldiers were treated. Me saying I’m doing something for LGBT doesn’t mean I’m not doing something for every else. It’s not pie, we can all have a slice. Take your weird agenda of being rude to gay people elsewhere. (P.S. being lgbt isnt an agenda. Just like how being straight and white isn’t an agenda. It’s just our lives.) I read your initial post and it came across to me as "I can't be arsed this year but I'll wait until its a bit more about me before I'll put the effort in" This is one time when its not about ourselves. It's recognising and remembering those that sacrificed so much for all our freedoms and continue to do so. Okay, but it’s not like that, so people getting angry at me need to stop. I literally said further down the thread that I’m doing something now because my plans have changed. The OP asked a question, I answered the question. It shouldn’t bother anyone what I’m doing, just like it doesn’t bother me what anyone else is doing. I'm not angry at you, you're just you being you. I admire your passion on your posts and you are a great spokesperson for the LBGT+ community. I believe Remembrance Sunday is for remembering all of the fallen, not just the ones we feel connected to." Thank you; I just assumed everyone know I was obviously still going to remember everyone. Maybe I should have made it clearer. But yes I am still going to remember everyone, but obviously, LGBT soldiers who fought in secret and died in secret hold a special place in my heart. | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit It makes me feel quite sad to think that the LGBT community feels the need to do this. In a world where those very communities claim to be striving for inclusivity, they are consistently becoming more and more divisive. Our ancestors fought and died as one for us and in order to liberate Europe. They all bravely fought side by side for their children, for their families and for what they believed in. Regardless of their sexualities, they all deserve our equal respect. I just don't think this is an appropriate event for promoting LGBT agendas. This genuinely is about paying respects to ALL those who died for us, and it's purposely been designed that way. What I don't get about this modern day concept of "inclusivity" and political correctness, is why do they consistently seek to exclude/dismiss straight white guys? Either way, I hope everybody has a good day. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ The LGBT community isn’t making it. It’s being made to make amends for the way LGBT soldiers were treated. Me saying I’m doing something for LGBT doesn’t mean I’m not doing something for every else. It’s not pie, we can all have a slice. Take your weird agenda of being rude to gay people elsewhere. (P.S. being lgbt isnt an agenda. Just like how being straight and white isn’t an agenda. It’s just our lives.) I read your initial post and it came across to me as "I can't be arsed this year but I'll wait until its a bit more about me before I'll put the effort in" This is one time when its not about ourselves. It's recognising and remembering those that sacrificed so much for all our freedoms and continue to do so. Okay, but it’s not like that, so people getting angry at me need to stop. I literally said further down the thread that I’m doing something now because my plans have changed. The OP asked a question, I answered the question. It shouldn’t bother anyone what I’m doing, just like it doesn’t bother me what anyone else is doing. I'm not angry at you, you're just you being you. I admire your passion on your posts and you are a great spokesperson for the LBGT+ community. I believe Remembrance Sunday is for remembering all of the fallen, not just the ones we feel connected to. Thank you; I just assumed everyone know I was obviously still going to remember everyone. Maybe I should have made it clearer. But yes I am still going to remember everyone, but obviously, LGBT soldiers who fought in secret and died in secret hold a special place in my heart. " As well it should
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"I'm making poppies with my nursery kids. If I don't no one else will. Made a tuff tray with soldiers, poppies, tanks tea lights for fires. Sometimes it's more "convenient" to forget but people gave their lives for our freedom. I'll never forget those who fought in the past, I'll never fail to appreciate those fighting at the present and I pray no one has to fight in the future. " 
I work in a Day Nursery too and we made a poppy wreath we are taking to the town park tomorrow. Vases of poppies on the tables and a display of medals which had come from family members, along with family pictures
We have also made poppies, spoke about why we wear them and the meaning of the colours. A child noticed my purple poppy which opened up a discussion that it wasn't just human life that was sacrificed... Lots of animals gave service and their lives too.
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"I'm making poppies with my nursery kids. If I don't no one else will. Made a tuff tray with soldiers, poppies, tanks tea lights for fires. Sometimes it's more "convenient" to forget but people gave their lives for our freedom. I'll never forget those who fought in the past, I'll never fail to appreciate those fighting at the present and I pray no one has to fight in the future.
I work in a Day Nursery too and we made a poppy wreath we are taking to the town park tomorrow. Vases of poppies on the tables and a display of medals which had come from family members, along with family pictures
We have also made poppies, spoke about why we wear them and the meaning of the colours. A child noticed my purple poppy which opened up a discussion that it wasn't just human life that was sacrificed... Lots of animals gave service and their lives too.
"I think it's so important to keep the tradition of remembering alive. I find it so strange that war is all around us but its deemed taboo to talk about it. You sound like a great early years practitioner
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"I'm making poppies with my nursery kids. If I don't no one else will. Made a tuff tray with soldiers, poppies, tanks tea lights for fires. Sometimes it's more "convenient" to forget but people gave their lives for our freedom. I'll never forget those who fought in the past, I'll never fail to appreciate those fighting at the present and I pray no one has to fight in the future.
I work in a Day Nursery too and we made a poppy wreath we are taking to the town park tomorrow. Vases of poppies on the tables and a display of medals which had come from family members, along with family pictures
We have also made poppies, spoke about why we wear them and the meaning of the colours. A child noticed my purple poppy which opened up a discussion that it wasn't just human life that was sacrificed... Lots of animals gave service and their lives too.
I think it's so important to keep the tradition of remembering alive.
I find it so strange that war is all around us but its deemed taboo to talk about it.
You sound like a great early years practitioner
"So do you! It's a tough job and the sector needs amazing practitioners like yourself x I agree, it is important to continue these discussions and be as open and honest as appropriate to the age and stage of development, it's about firing that curiosity so that one day they can ask questions and information find....I believe that these lessons from the past should never be forgotten because how else can the future generations move forward xx | |||
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"I'm glad we have remembrance day as over here, outside of those actively serving and those close to them and refugees, we don't have many left who remember what it was like to be actively affected by war. My nan is the only person I know who remembers WW2 and she's 98 so likely won't be around a huge amount longer. I think it's important we remember so that we remember we need to do what we can to prevent it and fight against the things that can escalate into war. It does always make me sad though that every year there are people who use it as an opportunity to stir up hate, usually by spreading false information. Muslims trying to get Poppy's banned or vandalising memorials. This year it was the false information about rainbow poppies to stir up hate against LGBT people. It makes me even sadder that every time, it works. I would love for one Remembrance Day to come and pass without a load of manufacturer's anger against a specific group of people." | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit It makes me feel quite sad to think that the LGBT community feels the need to do this. In a world where those very communities claim to be striving for inclusivity, they are consistently becoming more and more divisive. Our ancestors fought and died as one for us and in order to liberate Europe. They all bravely fought side by side for their children, for their families and for what they believed in. Regardless of their sexualities, they all deserve our equal respect. I just don't think this is an appropriate event for promoting LGBT agendas. This genuinely is about paying respects to ALL those who died for us, and it's purposely been designed that way. What I don't get about this modern day concept of "inclusivity" and political correctness, is why do they consistently seek to exclude/dismiss straight white guys? Either way, I hope everybody has a good day. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ The LGBT community isn’t making it. It’s being made to make amends for the way LGBT soldiers were treated. Me saying I’m doing something for LGBT doesn’t mean I’m not doing something for every else. It’s not pie, we can all have a slice. Take your weird agenda of being rude to gay people elsewhere. (P.S. being lgbt isnt an agenda. Just like how being straight and white isn’t an agenda. It’s just our lives.) I read your initial post and it came across to me as "I can't be arsed this year but I'll wait until its a bit more about me before I'll put the effort in" This is one time when its not about ourselves. It's recognising and remembering those that sacrificed so much for all our freedoms and continue to do so. Okay, but it’s not like that, so people getting angry at me need to stop. I literally said further down the thread that I’m doing something now because my plans have changed. The OP asked a question, I answered the question. It shouldn’t bother anyone what I’m doing, just like it doesn’t bother me what anyone else is doing." I don't think anyone is angry with you my darling. You've done nothing wrong. It's just an emotive subject for many. It's ofcourse a problem that affected all demographics and their families in our country long ago. My comment wasn't directed towards you personally. | |||
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"I think it's a crying shame the way some of our veteran are treated after they have served. There is a lot of mental health issues surrounding the job and way too much homelessness. 20 odd years ago I was homeless in America and so many people I knew from the streets and soup kitchens were ex military. Soldiers that had served in the gulf War and others in Vietnam (pretty much every man over 30) I'm sure there are similar situations up and down the country. Our troops deserve better. " "When you go home, tell them of us and say, For your tomorrow, we gave our today". To the men, women and animals that gave their lives then, now and will continue to do so, regardless of sexuality, race, religion, skiing colour. It isn't just another day. | |||
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"Personally, I’m heading into Manchester City centre with a couple of current police/ex mil, first one I’ve been home for in a few years so I’m looking forwards to it, Anybody going to any services/parades or doing anything? Or is it just another day? Feel free to send nudes while we discuss." Your good intent is appreciated.  | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit It makes me feel quite sad to think that the LGBT community feels the need to do this. In a world where those very communities claim to be striving for inclusivity, they are consistently becoming more and more divisive. Our ancestors fought and died as one for us and in order to liberate Europe. They all bravely fought side by side for their children, for their families and for what they believed in. Regardless of their sexualities, they all deserve our equal respect. I just don't think this is an appropriate event for promoting LGBT agendas. This genuinely is about paying respects to ALL those who died for us, and it's purposely been designed that way. What I don't get about this modern day concept of "inclusivity" and political correctness, is why do they consistently seek to exclude/dismiss straight white guys? Either way, I hope everybody has a good day. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ The LGBT community isn’t making it. It’s being made to make amends for the way LGBT soldiers were treated. Me saying I’m doing something for LGBT doesn’t mean I’m not doing something for every else. It’s not pie, we can all have a slice. Take your weird agenda of being rude to gay people elsewhere. (P.S. being lgbt isnt an agenda. Just like how being straight and white isn’t an agenda. It’s just our lives.) I read your initial post and it came across to me as "I can't be arsed this year but I'll wait until its a bit more about me before I'll put the effort in" This is one time when its not about ourselves. It's recognising and remembering those that sacrificed so much for all our freedoms and continue to do so. " Quite so. Well said. | |||
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"I’m not doing anything particular this year, but when the memorial for the fallen LGBT+ soldiers opens in 2025, I’ll be planning to take a visit It makes me feel quite sad to think that the LGBT community feels the need to do this. In a world where those very communities claim to be striving for inclusivity, they are consistently becoming more and more divisive. Our ancestors fought and died as one for us and in order to liberate Europe. They all bravely fought side by side for their children, for their families and for what they believed in. Regardless of their sexualities, they all deserve our equal respect. I just don't think this is an appropriate event for promoting LGBT agendas. This genuinely is about paying respects to ALL those who died for us, and it's purposely been designed that way. What I don't get about this modern day concept of "inclusivity" and political correctness, is why do they consistently seek to exclude/dismiss straight white guys? Either way, I hope everybody has a good day. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ The LGBT community isn’t making it. It’s being made to make amends for the way LGBT soldiers were treated. Me saying I’m doing something for LGBT doesn’t mean I’m not doing something for every else. It’s not pie, we can all have a slice. Take your weird agenda of being rude to gay people elsewhere. (P.S. being lgbt isnt an agenda. Just like how being straight and white isn’t an agenda. It’s just our lives.) I read your initial post and it came across to me as "I can't be arsed this year but I'll wait until its a bit more about me before I'll put the effort in" This is one time when its not about ourselves. It's recognising and remembering those that sacrificed so much for all our freedoms and continue to do so. Okay, but it’s not like that, so people getting angry at me need to stop. I literally said further down the thread that I’m doing something now because my plans have changed. The OP asked a question, I answered the question. It shouldn’t bother anyone what I’m doing, just like it doesn’t bother me what anyone else is doing. I don't think anyone is angry with you my darling. You've done nothing wrong. It's just an emotive subject for many. It's ofcourse a problem that affected all demographics and their families in our country long ago. My comment wasn't directed towards you personally." Agreed - not remotely angry - was asking a question to clarify if I was reading things the wrong way......the written word can easily be misconstrued. Wasn't a finger pointing exercise at all. | |||
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"I'm glad we have remembrance day as over here, outside of those actively serving and those close to them and refugees, we don't have many left who remember what it was like to be actively affected by war. My nan is the only person I know who remembers WW2 and she's 98 so likely won't be around a huge amount longer. I think it's important we remember so that we remember we need to do what we can to prevent it and fight against the things that can escalate into war. It does always make me sad though that every year there are people who use it as an opportunity to stir up hate, usually by spreading false information. Muslims trying to get Poppy's banned or vandalising memorials. This year it was the false information about rainbow poppies to stir up hate against LGBT people. It makes me even sadder that every time, it works. I would love for one Remembrance Day to come and pass without a load of manufacturer's anger against a specific group of people." Totally agree! It's one time of the year where there should be no division. All kinds of people have stood against oppression - and I hope I've played my part - we should absolutely be as one on days like today. Respects to your Grandmother - part of our greatest generation. Incidentally I was at the main parade in Liverpool today. Felt incredibly proud. | |||
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