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"And what of the ones with doubt?" Surely if there’s doubt the cps will make the decision. | |||
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"So why not, if the accused is found guilty beyond any doubt, all prisons be demolished and holes dug deep, unclimbable structure, the size which is 5x5 meters in diameter and enclosed from the elements and prisoners get a make shift lavatory and that is all. The meals and fluids provided would be basic but all of the sentence is to be served in their holes and exercise will be walking the 5x5 meter area and push ups or whatever can be done with the body alone. Sleeping system a simple roll mat and sleeping bag. Easily maintained, easily managed and short term attendees may think twice about getting sentenced again. That’s my rant of the day 😂 peace out 😁" But what if they innocent! There's a thing called human rights , they not animals and you really can't treat ppl like that regardless wether they committed a crime or nit | |||
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"And this is for youth offenders too? And women and men convicted of murdering their abusers? And people failed by a government - who turn to crime to feed their families? Mentally unwell who are sent back into the community with no support? Yeah - sounds fucking cracking that idea. " If found guilty that’s your bed, if prison is failing as suggested it’s a very ficking cracking idea. The support needed for many can be done via an inbuilt, into structure, video screen. | |||
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"So why not, if the accused is found guilty beyond any doubt, all prisons be demolished and holes dug deep, unclimbable structure, the size which is 5x5 meters in diameter and enclosed from the elements and prisoners get a make shift lavatory and that is all. The meals and fluids provided would be basic but all of the sentence is to be served in their holes and exercise will be walking the 5x5 meter area and push ups or whatever can be done with the body alone. Sleeping system a simple roll mat and sleeping bag. Easily maintained, easily managed and short term attendees may think twice about getting sentenced again. That’s my rant of the day 😂 peace out 😁 But what if they innocent! There's a thing called human rights , they not animals and you really can't treat ppl like that regardless wether they committed a crime or nit " If innocent then the perp wouldn’t be in the position or will, after appeal, be set free. Human rights is life itself no? And being fed and watered no? | |||
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"And this is for youth offenders too? And women and men convicted of murdering their abusers? And people failed by a government - who turn to crime to feed their families? Mentally unwell who are sent back into the community with no support? Yeah - sounds fucking cracking that idea. If found guilty that’s your bed, if prison is failing as suggested it’s a very ficking cracking idea. The support needed for many can be done via an inbuilt, into structure, video screen. " Rehab via video screen? In a hole? Send Donald my regards next time you speak to him… | |||
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"Yeah that will work. They will come out really well rounded with fab mental health and definitely not require multiple agencies to support them at the expense of the tax payer 🤠 Rehabilitation is over rated " Well I think the tax payers are already paying billions in overcrowded prisons as it is, are more prisons going to be built over the necessity for housing 🤷🏽♂️ I think not but if they did guess who’s forking out for it. Plus I think the rehab would be not wanting to go to prison, the hole, again. | |||
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"And this is for youth offenders too? And women and men convicted of murdering their abusers? And people failed by a government - who turn to crime to feed their families? Mentally unwell who are sent back into the community with no support? Yeah - sounds fucking cracking that idea. If found guilty that’s your bed, if prison is failing as suggested it’s a very ficking cracking idea. The support needed for many can be done via an inbuilt, into structure, video screen. Rehab via video screen? In a hole? Send Donald my regards next time you speak to him…" I’ll text him now. | |||
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"Found guilty of what? So under your proposed system there’s one solution to suit all? No rehabilitation? No help? A parent stealing to feed their family or any other example you suggest all get the same. " Yes, and the families struggling would probably no longer struggle because the cost to taxes would be reduced, imo. There’s probably other solutions but this is my idea and I’m sticking to it. | |||
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"Yeah that will work. They will come out really well rounded with fab mental health and definitely not require multiple agencies to support them at the expense of the tax payer 🤠 Rehabilitation is over rated Well I think the tax payers are already paying billions in overcrowded prisons as it is, are more prisons going to be built over the necessity for housing 🤷🏽♂️ I think not but if they did guess who’s forking out for it. Plus I think the rehab would be not wanting to go to prison, the hole, again. " Ok. So your argument is due to overcrowding & taxpayers money? So instead of hospitals - let’s put sick people in a hole. They can have meds thrown down to them. If they don’t want to be left in a hole, then they’ll choose not to get ill any more. Same logic. No? | |||
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"Nah, anyone found guilty of a hideous crime , send them abroad to a real prison. And let them actually serve time properly without all the luxuries our prisons here seem to let them have or earn. " Holes abroad I like it 😂 Anything really besides the 5* hotels we have now. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/11/24 19:58:01]" No but those pesky sick people cost a lot of money to keep well and the hospitals take up a lot of room | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/11/24 19:58:01] No but those pesky sick people cost a lot of money to keep well and the hospitals take up a lot of room " Ah see you’ve removed your comment now | |||
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"Yeah that will work. They will come out really well rounded with fab mental health and definitely not require multiple agencies to support them at the expense of the tax payer 🤠 Rehabilitation is over rated Well I think the tax payers are already paying billions in overcrowded prisons as it is, are more prisons going to be built over the necessity for housing 🤷🏽♂️ I think not but if they did guess who’s forking out for it. Plus I think the rehab would be not wanting to go to prison, the hole, again. Ok. So your argument is due to overcrowding & taxpayers money? So instead of hospitals - let’s put sick people in a hole. They can have meds thrown down to them. If they don’t want to be left in a hole, then they’ll choose not to get ill any more. Same logic. No? " Are people in hospitals committing crimes? No!! But build superior hospitals on the remaining unused grounds of old prisons 👍🏽 good thinking. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/11/24 19:58:01] No but those pesky sick people cost a lot of money to keep well and the hospitals take up a lot of room Ah see you’ve removed your comment now " No 🤦🏽 had to rewrite as I misread the comment I was replying to 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/11/24 19:58:01] No but those pesky sick people cost a lot of money to keep well and the hospitals take up a lot of room Ah see you’ve removed your comment now No 🤦🏽 had to rewrite as I misread the comment I was replying to 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽" Yes. Because god forbid you look foolish…. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/11/24 19:58:01] No but those pesky sick people cost a lot of money to keep well and the hospitals take up a lot of room Ah see you’ve removed your comment now No 🤦🏽 had to rewrite as I misread the comment I was replying to 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 Yes. Because god forbid you look foolish…." God forbid, but I’m allowed my foolishness like many other wonderful forumites 👏🏽🤷🏽♂️👍🏽🎉👏🏽 | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/11/24 19:58:01] No but those pesky sick people cost a lot of money to keep well and the hospitals take up a lot of room Ah see you’ve removed your comment now No 🤦🏽 had to rewrite as I misread the comment I was replying to 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 Yes. Because god forbid you look foolish…. God forbid, but I’m allowed my foolishness like many other wonderful forumites 👏🏽🤷🏽♂️👍🏽🎉👏🏽" As is your right. We all have them. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/11/24 19:58:01] No but those pesky sick people cost a lot of money to keep well and the hospitals take up a lot of room Ah see you’ve removed your comment now No 🤦🏽 had to rewrite as I misread the comment I was replying to 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 Yes. Because god forbid you look foolish…. God forbid, but I’m allowed my foolishness like many other wonderful forumites 👏🏽🤷🏽♂️👍🏽🎉👏🏽 As is your right. We all have them." 😉😘 | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/11/24 19:58:01] No but those pesky sick people cost a lot of money to keep well and the hospitals take up a lot of room Ah see you’ve removed your comment now No 🤦🏽 had to rewrite as I misread the comment I was replying to 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 Yes. Because god forbid you look foolish…. God forbid, but I’m allowed my foolishness like many other wonderful forumites 👏🏽🤷🏽♂️👍🏽🎉👏🏽 As is your right. We all have them." Not the people in the OPs prisons. They have zero rights | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/11/24 19:58:01] No but those pesky sick people cost a lot of money to keep well and the hospitals take up a lot of room Ah see you’ve removed your comment now No 🤦🏽 had to rewrite as I misread the comment I was replying to 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 Yes. Because god forbid you look foolish…. God forbid, but I’m allowed my foolishness like many other wonderful forumites 👏🏽🤷🏽♂️👍🏽🎉👏🏽 As is your right. We all have them. Not the people in the OPs prisons. They have zero rights " Damn straight, you get the jist 👍🏽 do the crime serve the time 😁 in a hole yes !!!! | |||
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"I’m actually coming round to the idea of the hole. People that say holibobs? In the hole. People that don’t let you merge? in the hole. " Add in those that say wifey and hubby. | |||
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"I’m actually coming round to the idea of the hole. People that say holibobs? In the hole. People that don’t let you merge? in the hole. " Only 2 more sleeps until...... Get in the hole!!! | |||
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"I’m actually coming round to the idea of the hole. People that say holibobs? In the hole. People that don’t let you merge? in the hole. " For these most serious of crimes (I can't even type that h-word) the hole feels right. Sunglasses on the tube criminal types would languish in there too. For most criminals though, OP, I think the deprivation of liberty in prison is punishment enough. I don't generally want the state chucking people into holes in the ground. And I've no idea how it's any cheaper anyway, if that's your concern. | |||
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"I’m actually coming round to the idea of the hole. People that say holibobs? In the hole. People that don’t let you merge? in the hole. " People who even mention the hole. Believe it or not? Hole. | |||
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"So why not, if the accused is found guilty beyond any doubt, all prisons be demolished and holes dug deep, unclimbable structure, the size which is 5x5 meters in diameter and enclosed from the elements and prisoners get a make shift lavatory and that is all. The meals and fluids provided would be basic but all of the sentence is to be served in their holes and exercise will be walking the 5x5 meter area and push ups or whatever can be done with the body alone. Sleeping system a simple roll mat and sleeping bag. Easily maintained, easily managed and short term attendees may think twice about getting sentenced again. That’s my rant of the day 😂 peace out 😁" What type of person would we be releasing back into society | |||
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So... same concept but worse. Perhaps... and here's an idea we do the opposite to what doesn't work. Some sort of rehabilitation?
Unless you own a ground works company? I'm that case. Great idea | |||
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