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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know " Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. | |||
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"They think a bisexual guy is less "manly" (but will rarely admit it) " Very interesting. I wonder if the same assumption is made of people who are 'switches'. Like if you're not a 'pure' dom then you're going to be lacking in that department by nature. | |||
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"Some women just don’t dig guys who shag other guys. "  | |||
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"We have found that bi men are way more respectful of boundaries than some bi women though" Tis very true. | |||
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"It's practically mandatory to be bisexual or at least curious if you're a woman. I guess there are various reasons why some people don't want to meet bisexual men. " Yea its interesting, Assumed femininity or STI concerns or an aversion to sleeping with a man who has potentially slept with other men. Definitely helps explain why some guys pretend to be straight on here. Human social dynamics never cease to fascinate. | |||
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"We have found that bi men are way more respectful of boundaries than some bi women though" I guess they might be able to get away with more. I see single females looking for couples are known as 'unicorns' maybe there is less consequence for them when the attempt to cross those boundaries/they have less to lose than the average male. Wish us single males had a cool label but I just know were we to get one it would be nowhere near as flattering  | |||
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"It's practically mandatory to be bisexual or at least curious if you're a woman. I guess there are various reasons why some people don't want to meet bisexual men. Yea its interesting, Assumed femininity or STI concerns or an aversion to sleeping with a man who has potentially slept with other men. Definitely helps explain why some guys pretend to be straight on here. Human social dynamics never cease to fascinate. " Lot of gay guys here listed as bi too A lot of curious and bi-playful guys won't meet gay men So it gets them the cock they wouldn't get if they were here listed as gay 'Bi-curious' works two ways... | |||
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"I find that my bi-ness isn't as clear as my desires for ladies. Most ladies will have one attractive feature that could get you to forget about some unattractive features, but if a guy has 1 , I'm out , and that's even with a lady involved too. I have no attraction to a guy alone , but if I don't state myself as bi I feel I'm lying. Its just easier when everyone agrees, it's just sex " Thanks for sharing your perspective! | |||
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"It's practically mandatory to be bisexual or at least curious if you're a woman. I guess there are various reasons why some people don't want to meet bisexual men. Yea its interesting, Assumed femininity or STI concerns or an aversion to sleeping with a man who has potentially slept with other men. Definitely helps explain why some guys pretend to be straight on here. Human social dynamics never cease to fascinate. Lot of gay guys here listed as bi too A lot of curious and bi-playful guys won't meet gay men So it gets them the cock they wouldn't get if they were here listed as gay 'Bi-curious' works two ways..." If it works, then I can understand why they do it. Though I personally would advocate for transparency when it comes to such matters, I do understand. | |||
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"It's practically mandatory to be bisexual or at least curious if you're a woman. I guess there are various reasons why some people don't want to meet bisexual men. Yea its interesting, Assumed femininity or STI concerns or an aversion to sleeping with a man who has potentially slept with other men. Definitely helps explain why some guys pretend to be straight on here. Human social dynamics never cease to fascinate. Lot of gay guys here listed as bi too A lot of curious and bi-playful guys won't meet gay men So it gets them the cock they wouldn't get if they were here listed as gay 'Bi-curious' works two ways..." This just reinforces why some women aren’t interested as they see these men as blatant liars. | |||
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"It's practically mandatory to be bisexual or at least curious if you're a woman. I guess there are various reasons why some people don't want to meet bisexual men. Yea its interesting, Assumed femininity or STI concerns or an aversion to sleeping with a man who has potentially slept with other men. Definitely helps explain why some guys pretend to be straight on here. Human social dynamics never cease to fascinate. Lot of gay guys here listed as bi too A lot of curious and bi-playful guys won't meet gay men So it gets them the cock they wouldn't get if they were here listed as gay 'Bi-curious' works two ways... This just reinforces why some women aren’t interested as they see these men as blatant liars. " What men? | |||
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"Greater the perception of risk " A subtle but very impactful distinction. Guess I'll have to look up some studies to see if the fears are based on science. | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out." Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it | |||
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"Greater the perception of risk A subtle but very impactful distinction. Guess I'll have to look up some studies to see if the fears are based on science. " Science is only what's reported, and unbelievably it is openly gay and bisexual men who get tested more than most , openly, I think that is what appeals to finding regulars, building some trust , it's a fascinating subject | |||
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"It's practically mandatory to be bisexual or at least curious if you're a woman. I guess there are various reasons why some people don't want to meet bisexual men. Yea its interesting, Assumed femininity or STI concerns or an aversion to sleeping with a man who has potentially slept with other men. Definitely helps explain why some guys pretend to be straight on here. Human social dynamics never cease to fascinate. Lot of gay guys here listed as bi too A lot of curious and bi-playful guys won't meet gay men So it gets them the cock they wouldn't get if they were here listed as gay 'Bi-curious' works two ways... This just reinforces why some women aren’t interested as they see these men as blatant liars. What men?" The ones who lie | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it" Just got enlightened of the meaning of 'fab-straight' yesterday. Hilarious on the surface but its definitely indicative of a deeper problem. | |||
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"Greater the perception of risk A subtle but very impactful distinction. Guess I'll have to look up some studies to see if the fears are based on science. Science is only what's reported, and unbelievably it is openly gay and bisexual men who get tested more than most , openly, I think that is what appeals to finding regulars, building some trust , it's a fascinating subject " | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it Just got enlightened of the meaning of 'fab-straight' yesterday. Hilarious on the surface but its definitely indicative of a deeper problem." Been full threads of arguments on it, so, nothing new and a real minefield | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it Just got enlightened of the meaning of 'fab-straight' yesterday. Hilarious on the surface but its definitely indicative of a deeper problem. Been full threads of arguments on it, so, nothing new and a real minefield " I'll have to check those out later | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it Just got enlightened of the meaning of 'fab-straight' yesterday. Hilarious on the surface but its definitely indicative of a deeper problem. Been full threads of arguments on it, so, nothing new and a real minefield I'll have to check those out later "Recent one about ‘straight cock sucking’, so won’t be difficult to find | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it" Is "fucking anything" the sole preserve of bi and gay men? | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it Just got enlightened of the meaning of 'fab-straight' yesterday. Hilarious on the surface but its definitely indicative of a deeper problem." It's not hilarious at all It,s not indicative of a deeper problem. Men who have anal sex with other men are at higher risk of STI,s including HIV & Hepatitis B.You are asked if you have sex with men when have sex with other men , when you get tested at clinic. If you do they recommend blood tests for the above. It's not homophobic to not want to fuck bisexual men. | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it Just got enlightened of the meaning of 'fab-straight' yesterday. Hilarious on the surface but its definitely indicative of a deeper problem. It's not hilarious at all It,s not indicative of a deeper problem. Men who have anal sex with other men are at higher risk of STI,s including HIV & Hepatitis B.You are asked if you have sex with men when have sex with other men , when you get tested at clinic. If you do they recommend blood tests for the above. It's not homophobic to not want to fuck bisexual men. " From the Terence Higgins Trust The number of new diagnoses is rising. In 2023, the number of HIV diagnoses first made in England increased by 15%. Diagnoses increased by 7% in gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men, a reversal of the declines seen in recent years. Diagnoses increased by 32% in heterosexual men and women. | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it Just got enlightened of the meaning of 'fab-straight' yesterday. Hilarious on the surface but its definitely indicative of a deeper problem. It's not hilarious at all It,s not indicative of a deeper problem. Men who have anal sex with other men are at higher risk of STI,s including HIV & Hepatitis B.You are asked if you have sex with men when have sex with other men , when you get tested at clinic. If you do they recommend blood tests for the above. It's not homophobic to not want to fuck bisexual men. From the Terence Higgins Trust The number of new diagnoses is rising. In 2023, the number of HIV diagnoses first made in England increased by 15%. Diagnoses increased by 7% in gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men, a reversal of the declines seen in recent years. Diagnoses increased by 32% in heterosexual men and women. " Facts. | |||
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"Diagnoses increased by 7% in gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men, a reversal of the declines seen in recent years. Diagnoses increased by 32% in heterosexual men and women??? surely this cannot be true,I refuse to believe that select couples who go dogging and flit between group private gangbangs,local cinema visits and then off to the local club all in search of as much cum has this knock on effect." Sounds like some of the couples profiles on here. If you seek out those into cream pie/bareback or breeding then risks are involved. Rubber up and it avoids a lot if swapping and ointments in the long run. | |||
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"It's practically mandatory to be bisexual or at least curious if you're a woman. I guess there are various reasons why some people don't want to meet bisexual men. Yea its interesting, Assumed femininity or STI concerns or an aversion to sleeping with a man who has potentially slept with other men. Definitely helps explain why some guys pretend to be straight on here. Human social dynamics never cease to fascinate. " Totally agree, yet they're just making people say they're straight and fucking them anyway which is increasing the perceived risk. What they should be asking is when did you last get tested, then it's not as much of an issue. | |||
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"Diagnoses increased by 7% in gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men, a reversal of the declines seen in recent years. Diagnoses increased by 32% in heterosexual men and women??? surely this cannot be true,I refuse to believe that select couples who go dogging and flit between group private gangbangs,local cinema visits and then off to the local club all in search of as much cum has this knock on effect." As someone said previously; bi and gay guys have a tendency to test more regularly. They recognise that there is no such thing as safe sex only safer sex. Often heterosexual couples don’t think that and fail to test regularly or even at all. | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it Just got enlightened of the meaning of 'fab-straight' yesterday. Hilarious on the surface but its definitely indicative of a deeper problem. It's not hilarious at all It,s not indicative of a deeper problem. Men who have anal sex with other men are at higher risk of STI,s including HIV & Hepatitis B.You are asked if you have sex with men when have sex with other men , when you get tested at clinic. If you do they recommend blood tests for the above. It's not homophobic to not want to fuck bisexual men. " These are very very old assumptions. The fact that it’s still used in medical practice is horrendous. Do guys get asked if they’ve had anal sex with women? The chances of transmission are just the same in those instances and just as prevalent. Swingers and sexually promiscuous people are in the same risk category as bisexuals | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it Just got enlightened of the meaning of 'fab-straight' yesterday. Hilarious on the surface but its definitely indicative of a deeper problem." That men will lie to get sex? This is not a new phenomena. | |||
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"Some women just don’t dig guys who shag other guys. " Exactly this and nothing else.. | |||
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"It's practically mandatory to be bisexual or at least curious if you're a woman. I guess there are various reasons why some people don't want to meet bisexual men. Yea its interesting, Assumed femininity or STI concerns or an aversion to sleeping with a man who has potentially slept with other men. Definitely helps explain why some guys pretend to be straight on here. Human social dynamics never cease to fascinate. Lot of gay guys here listed as bi too A lot of curious and bi-playful guys won't meet gay men So it gets them the cock they wouldn't get if they were here listed as gay 'Bi-curious' works two ways... This just reinforces why some women aren’t interested as they see these men as blatant liars. " I don't think so. Unless you're equating being bi or gay with being a liar? The lie comes after the preference - "I know some people don't like x so I'll pretend I'm not x" Totally understand people not wanting to meet a liar but that's very different to saying "I don't meet bi men because they are liars and are really gay, just pretending not to be". Apart from anything else, a gay man meeting a woman for sex is automatically bi so cannot be lying. P | |||
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"Ah, good old preferences. Yes, we all have them. Yes, of course we’re entitled to them. I find it fascinating when we dig a little deeper to see where those preferences are rooted. Sometimes it’s in old, outdated, inaccurate assumptions like some of those on the thread. Sometimes it’s in personal or anecdotal experience. I do find the fab system of putting oneself in boxes to be a very blunt tool. Many people, including me, have a more nuanced approach to sexuality and sexual encounters than fab has options for. I guess that’s where knowing yourself and communicating openly with others comes into play. Mrs TMN x" This ^^^ | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it Is "fucking anything" the sole preserve of bi and gay men?" Nope, but sometimes I can phrase clumsily, it is only a forum after all. | |||
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"I get that some women just aren't attracted to men that sleep with other men the same way I'm not attracted to dominant men and that's totally fine. What I don't get tho is the people that spout the very outdated stats and views that were around in the 80,s. Being promiscuous isn't just a bi man thing you only have to look at the amount of couples that are into bareback and the single men that brag about sleeping with hundreds of women and hardly using any form of contraception. We have never had any issues with any of the men bi men we have met but we do only meet men that openly state they are bi we are not into men that have straight to increase their chances of getting a meet on here.. " I guess those men find themselves in a catch 22. As you say, many people still hold outdated biases against bi men. So whilst I’d obviously rather people didn’t lie to me, I can understand why they do. Mrs TMN x | |||
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"I have no issues with bi males. What consenting adults do with each other is up to them. Live and let live. What does irritate me on fab is when you get couples with a bi male partner who try to lure you to meet and "convince" you to shag them/play with them. Just be open and honest about what you are after, makes life easy for everyone. " Works both ways, the amount of men who claim to be as straight as straight and want a bi meet even offered a 1-1 with him is surprising. Long and short don’t trust any profile on here as many (not all) say and do anything to get a meet, As far as STD goes it’s the responsibility of YOU to look after your health not hope the other person has is straight, honest and tested. We know a lot of people on the bi gay scene and I would say all of them regaully test and majority are on prep.. Same can’t be said for the so called straight married men on here who dare note test as they can’t because of their wife might find out and dare say a lot of couples who think they low risk despite the dogging and porn cinema anon play And you can’t judge every bi and gay men the same.. not all are fuck anything that moves and bb any old hole…. 
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it Just got enlightened of the meaning of 'fab-straight' yesterday. Hilarious on the surface but its definitely indicative of a deeper problem. It's not hilarious at all It,s not indicative of a deeper problem. Men who have anal sex with other men are at higher risk of STI,s including HIV & Hepatitis B.You are asked if you have sex with men when have sex with other men , when you get tested at clinic. If you do they recommend blood tests for the above. It's not homophobic to not want to fuck bisexual men. " You may disagree, but it is hilarious and it would be to many others outside the Fab scene. Let me explain why; A 'straight' individual who is sexually attracted to people of their own sex as well as other sexes would not be considered 'straight' to the general populace -- but they are considered 'fabstraight'. This precise dichotomy of classification, this specific contrast to what is generally believed by non-fab users, is where the surface level humour arises to me. Moreover, where did I insinuate it was homophobic to not want to have intercourse with other men? It is to prevent this sort of misunderstanding that I expressed very clearly that each person is fully justified in making their preference known. I'm just a curious straight dude that was intrigued by the phenomenon nothing more. The 'deeper problem' I was referring to was the acceptance of the term 'fabstraight', a term I consider to be something like an oxymoron. Its like an inside joke term to me, a meme. Because its just not accurate with reality of what it means to be heterosexual, so the heuristics that led to 'fabstraight' being an accepted term on this site is what I define as the 'deeper problem'. Hope this explanation clears things up.  | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it Just got enlightened of the meaning of 'fab-straight' yesterday. Hilarious on the surface but its definitely indicative of a deeper problem. It's not hilarious at all It,s not indicative of a deeper problem. Men who have anal sex with other men are at higher risk of STI,s including HIV & Hepatitis B.You are asked if you have sex with men when have sex with other men , when you get tested at clinic. If you do they recommend blood tests for the above. It's not homophobic to not want to fuck bisexual men. " As for you reference to the scientific literature that's a great point. Definitely *some* people are using it as the basis for their aversion to bisexuals... Your tone is very confrontational, but I'm simply asking questions. Its about having a discussion not getting into an argument or debate. | |||
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"They think a bisexual guy is less "manly" (but will rarely admit it) " Surely a bi guy is more manly because he considers himself capable of dominating an 18-20 stone hairy beast of a man | |||
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"So I'm a new user on here and new to the swinging scene in general. This might be taboo to ask; I have no idea, so please forgive me if it is. I've observed that some people don't have an interest in meeting bisexuals. For e.g. some women are open to meeting straight males but not bisexuals. I'm simply curious as to the reasons behind this preference. I'm not making a judgement or anything, everyone has the right to be clear about their preferences -- its how things should be. I don't want to start a conflict. I just want to get your perspectives. Thanks. " Exactly the reason you stated. Preferences. | |||
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"So I'm a new user on here and new to the swinging scene in general. This might be taboo to ask; I have no idea, so please forgive me if it is. I've observed that some people don't have an interest in meeting bisexuals. For e.g. some women are open to meeting straight males but not bisexuals. I'm simply curious as to the reasons behind this preference. I'm not making a judgement or anything, everyone has the right to be clear about their preferences -- its how things should be. I don't want to start a conflict. I just want to get your perspectives. Thanks. " I'm loving the engagement, everyone! There’s so much to respond to thoughtfully, but replying to everything would take too much time, and I don’t want to just spam thumbs-up replies. Instead, I’ll respond if there’s any misunderstanding of my post. Otherwise, I’ll keep reading and enjoying your perspectives. Happy Fabbing! | |||
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"Ah, good old preferences. Yes, we all have them. Yes, of course we’re entitled to them. I find it fascinating when we dig a little deeper to see where those preferences are rooted. Sometimes it’s in old, outdated, inaccurate assumptions like some of those on the thread. Sometimes it’s in personal or anecdotal experience. I do find the fab system of putting oneself in boxes to be a very blunt tool. Many people, including me, have a more nuanced approach to sexuality and sexual encounters than fab has options for. I guess that’s where knowing yourself and communicating openly with others comes into play. Mrs TMN x" 100% this. | |||
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" From the Terence Higgins Trust The number of new diagnoses is rising. In 2023, the number of HIV diagnoses first made in England increased by 15%. Diagnoses increased by 7% in gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men, a reversal of the declines seen in recent years. Diagnoses increased by 32% in heterosexual men and women. " I notice this conversation carried on without this being picked up on, so I'm just leaving it here again to sink in | |||
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"I have no issues with bi males. What consenting adults do with each other is up to them. Live and let live. What does irritate me on fab is when you get couples with a bi male partner who try to lure you to meet and "convince" you to shag them/play with them. Just be open and honest about what you are after, makes life easy for everyone. Works both ways, the amount of men who claim to be as straight as straight and want a bi meet even offered a 1-1 with him is surprising. Long and short don’t trust any profile on here as many (not all) say and do anything to get a meet, As far as STD goes it’s the responsibility of YOU to look after your health not hope the other person has is straight, honest and tested. We know a lot of people on the bi gay scene and I would say all of them regaully test and majority are on prep.. Same can’t be said for the so called straight married men on here who dare note test as they can’t because of their wife might find out and dare say a lot of couples who think they low risk despite the dogging and porn cinema anon play And you can’t judge every bi and gay men the same.. not all are fuck anything that moves and bb any old hole….
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"Just bisexual men don’t appeal to me. Also a concern regarding sexually transmitted diseases. " I'm curious about this. The diseases bit I get, as pointed out above, there is a higher risk, giving blood for example is (or was?) not allowed if you are a man who sleeps with other men). How big the difference in risk actually is I don't know. The bit I'm curious about is where you say bisexual men don't appeal to you. There is absolutely no way to distinguish between a bi and straight man from looks, behaviour (outside of sex obviously), language , race, religion or anything else. Literally the only difference is the places they have previously put their willy. This is where the accusations of homophobia come from. If the idea of a man putting his willy in another man stops you being attracted to him, aside from the risk of STD's which you clearly mention as a separate issue, it is difficult to see how this can be anything other than an aversion to the act of gay sex. This single act is literally the *only* distinguishing difference between a straight or bi man. Therefore, being put off of a person because of their participation in this act cannot be anything other than homophobia unless there's something else I have missed? P | |||
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"We don't knowingly play with bi guys, don't like it then don't look, we don't care and it won't change! No one tells us who we should be playing with, it's our preference and that's the way it'll stay. Sick of reading threads like this that turn this into bigotry. Mr F. " Told who you should pay with? We've obviously read different threads. P | |||
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"We don't knowingly play with bi guys, don't like it then don't look, we don't care and it won't change! No one tells us who we should be playing with, it's our preference and that's the way it'll stay. Sick of reading threads like this that turn this into bigotry. Mr F. " What happens if you fuck a guy that later on you found out is bisexual ? Do you say anything to them / message / block ? | |||
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"So I'm a new user on here and new to the swinging scene in general. This might be taboo to ask; I have no idea, so please forgive me if it is. I've observed that some people don't have an interest in meeting bisexuals. For e.g. some women are open to meeting straight males but not bisexuals. I'm simply curious as to the reasons behind this preference. I'm not making a judgement or anything, everyone has the right to be clear about their preferences -- its how things should be. I don't want to start a conflict. I just want to get your perspectives. Thanks. " ...personal choice? | |||
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"It’s astonishing how many women in couples proclaim to be bi, maybe just to give them more chances of meets… or to please the guy they’re with " I think a good number are doing it for the man half of couple I have met hundreds of couples over the last 15 years and a very common arc I noted was the man leading it all | |||
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"They think a bisexual guy is less "manly" (but will rarely admit it) Very interesting. I wonder if the same assumption is made of people who are 'switches'. Like if you're not a 'pure' dom then you're going to be lacking in that department by nature." Yes some people think this about switches | |||
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"I know for fact from a friend of mine that a lot of straight guys on here are very prolific on Fabguys Fab is generally as straight as cooked spaghetti "Your friend is correct. There are some guys active on both sites, sometimes with a different sexuality on each .
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" From the Terence Higgins Trust The number of new diagnoses is rising. In 2023, the number of HIV diagnoses first made in England increased by 15%. Diagnoses increased by 7% in gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men, a reversal of the declines seen in recent years. Diagnoses increased by 32% in heterosexual men and women. I notice this conversation carried on without this being picked up on, so I'm just leaving it here again to sink in " Thank you! | |||
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"Just bisexual men don’t appeal to me. Also a concern regarding sexually transmitted diseases. I'm curious about this. The diseases bit I get, as pointed out above, there is a higher risk, giving blood for example is (or was?) not allowed if you are a man who sleeps with other men). How big the difference in risk actually is I don't know. The bit I'm curious about is where you say bisexual men don't appeal to you. There is absolutely no way to distinguish between a bi and straight man from looks, behaviour (outside of sex obviously), language , race, religion or anything else. Literally the only difference is the places they have previously put their willy. This is where the accusations of homophobia come from. If the idea of a man putting his willy in another man stops you being attracted to him, aside from the risk of STD's which you clearly mention as a separate issue, it is difficult to see how this can be anything other than an aversion to the act of gay sex. This single act is literally the *only* distinguishing difference between a straight or bi man. Therefore, being put off of a person because of their participation in this act cannot be anything other than homophobia unless there's something else I have missed? P" Biphobia. Yes, it's a thing. | |||
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"I never used to meet them because of the increased sti risk. As I've been on here longer, most people have "that one person" they bareback with anyway, which is not always exclusive. So it's easier for me to assume that everyone is barebacking and always use condoms with one offs instead, this includes oral, as sti's can be transmitted via mouth/throat contact. 🐟🐟🐟" This where a little information is a dangerous thing and it’s where stigma begins. Bi men are a higher risk group than married couples but they’re in the same risk group as sexually promiscuous people, such as swingers. Bi men aren’t riddled with diseases and the people that I know take their sexual health very seriously. Far more so than most people | |||
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"Just bisexual men don’t appeal to me. Also a concern regarding sexually transmitted diseases. I'm curious about this. The diseases bit I get, as pointed out above, there is a higher risk, giving blood for example is (or was?) not allowed if you are a man who sleeps with other men). How big the difference in risk actually is I don't know. The bit I'm curious about is where you say bisexual men don't appeal to you. There is absolutely no way to distinguish between a bi and straight man from looks, behaviour (outside of sex obviously), language , race, religion or anything else. Literally the only difference is the places they have previously put their willy. This is where the accusations of homophobia come from. If the idea of a man putting his willy in another man stops you being attracted to him, aside from the risk of STD's which you clearly mention as a separate issue, it is difficult to see how this can be anything other than an aversion to the act of gay sex. This single act is literally the *only* distinguishing difference between a straight or bi man. Therefore, being put off of a person because of their participation in this act cannot be anything other than homophobia unless there's something else I have missed? P" Waits patiently for a response to this from people | |||
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"Fear of sexually transmitted diseases. Whether that’s actually the case I wouldn’t know Huh, so the fact that they can be involved with both men and women has backfired on them? Interesting how these things play out. Flipside is that if you’ll fuck anything, there’s more chance of the nasty stuff. Again, a generalisation and some do play safe, but as you’ll have seen from above there’s a lot of clouding intentions and attractions and the phrase ‘fab-straight’ is a running joke. It’s not for me, I’m just too old, set on women but, you get aware of the threads on it Just got enlightened of the meaning of 'fab-straight' yesterday. Hilarious on the surface but its definitely indicative of a deeper problem. It's not hilarious at all It,s not indicative of a deeper problem. Men who have anal sex with other men are at higher risk of STI,s including HIV & Hepatitis B.You are asked if you have sex with men when have sex with other men , when you get tested at clinic. If you do they recommend blood tests for the above. It's not homophobic to not want to fuck bisexual men. From the Terence Higgins Trust The number of new diagnoses is rising. In 2023, the number of HIV diagnoses first made in England increased by 15%. Diagnoses increased by 7% in gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men, a reversal of the declines seen in recent years. Diagnoses increased by 32% in heterosexual men and women. " I wonder what percentage of the heterosexuals in the study are actually heterosexual? You can see here on Fab forum alone that many men have sex with other men but seem to genuinely believe they are straight and would therefore claim to be so. K. | |||
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" From the Terence Higgins Trust The number of new diagnoses is rising. In 2023, the number of HIV diagnoses first made in England increased by 15%. Diagnoses increased by 7% in gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men, a reversal of the declines seen in recent years. Diagnoses increased by 32% in heterosexual men and women. I notice this conversation carried on without this being picked up on, so I'm just leaving it here again to sink in " Really interesting statistic - I have also been told the STI's are increasing with middle ages people - typically they get divorced and start dating / having casual sex again. As a bi male who is regularly tested and take precautions and state this on my profile, I was asked by one guy whether I was actually bi, because stating I was regularly tested / on PREP made me sound gay!!!! | |||
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"Just bisexual men don’t appeal to me. Also a concern regarding sexually transmitted diseases. I'm curious about this. The diseases bit I get, as pointed out above, there is a higher risk, giving blood for example is (or was?) not allowed if you are a man who sleeps with other men). How big the difference in risk actually is I don't know. The bit I'm curious about is where you say bisexual men don't appeal to you. There is absolutely no way to distinguish between a bi and straight man from looks, behaviour (outside of sex obviously), language , race, religion or anything else. Literally the only difference is the places they have previously put their willy. This is where the accusations of homophobia come from. If the idea of a man putting his willy in another man stops you being attracted to him, aside from the risk of STD's which you clearly mention as a separate issue, it is difficult to see how this can be anything other than an aversion to the act of gay sex. This single act is literally the *only* distinguishing difference between a straight or bi man. Therefore, being put off of a person because of their participation in this act cannot be anything other than homophobia unless there's something else I have missed? P Biphobia. Yes, it's a thing." Very much so. Which is why you have lots of men on Fab are happy to play with other guys but still put straight on their profiles. At least say bi-curious. You would have hoped that the swinging community would be more open minded than society in general. | |||
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"Just bisexual men don’t appeal to me. Also a concern regarding sexually transmitted diseases. I'm curious about this. The diseases bit I get, as pointed out above, there is a higher risk, giving blood for example is (or was?) not allowed if you are a man who sleeps with other men). How big the difference in risk actually is I don't know. The bit I'm curious about is where you say bisexual men don't appeal to you. There is absolutely no way to distinguish between a bi and straight man from looks, behaviour (outside of sex obviously), language , race, religion or anything else. Literally the only difference is the places they have previously put their willy. This is where the accusations of homophobia come from. If the idea of a man putting his willy in another man stops you being attracted to him, aside from the risk of STD's which you clearly mention as a separate issue, it is difficult to see how this can be anything other than an aversion to the act of gay sex. This single act is literally the *only* distinguishing difference between a straight or bi man. Therefore, being put off of a person because of their participation in this act cannot be anything other than homophobia unless there's something else I have missed? P Waits patiently for a response to this from people " That's the worse analogy I've ever heard! It's a sexual preference, get yourself over it, we're not into bestiality either, but we've no issues with dogs... Ridiculous comment. Your profile states, and I quote: "I hate to have to drop this in here but guys, if you have straight on your profile, I’m not interested" So on your analogy above... Isn't that bigotry towards straight guys on your profile?? Mr F. | |||
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"I never used to meet them because of the increased sti risk. As I've been on here longer, most people have "that one person" they bareback with anyway, which is not always exclusive. So it's easier for me to assume that everyone is barebacking and always use condoms with one offs instead, this includes oral, as sti's can be transmitted via mouth/throat contact. 🐟🐟🐟 This where a little information is a dangerous thing and it’s where stigma begins. Bi men are a higher risk group than married couples but they’re in the same risk group as sexually promiscuous people, such as swingers. Bi men aren’t riddled with diseases and the people that I know take their sexual health very seriously. Far more so than most people " It’s not sexual orientation that relates to increased risk of STI exposure… it’s marital / relationship status. Married/ partnered men cheating with men or women do not get tested, more likely to have risky unprotected sex, visit sex workers etc. The subterfuge necessary for cheating means that testing, prep, even condoms isn’t possible due to the risk of being found out. Who’s a greater risk? An openly bisexual single male who uses prep, condoms and is tested regularly or a married truck driver who occasionally fucks skanky hoes (unprotected anal sex maybe) that cruise logistics parking lots? | |||
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"Just bisexual men don’t appeal to me. Also a concern regarding sexually transmitted diseases. I'm curious about this. The diseases bit I get, as pointed out above, there is a higher risk, giving blood for example is (or was?) not allowed if you are a man who sleeps with other men). How big the difference in risk actually is I don't know. The bit I'm curious about is where you say bisexual men don't appeal to you. There is absolutely no way to distinguish between a bi and straight man from looks, behaviour (outside of sex obviously), language , race, religion or anything else. Literally the only difference is the places they have previously put their willy. This is where the accusations of homophobia come from. If the idea of a man putting his willy in another man stops you being attracted to him, aside from the risk of STD's which you clearly mention as a separate issue, it is difficult to see how this can be anything other than an aversion to the act of gay sex. This single act is literally the *only* distinguishing difference between a straight or bi man. Therefore, being put off of a person because of their participation in this act cannot be anything other than homophobia unless there's something else I have missed? P Waits patiently for a response to this from people That's the worse analogy I've ever heard! It's a sexual preference, get yourself over it, we're not into bestiality either, but we've no issues with dogs... Ridiculous comment. Your profile states, and I quote: "I hate to have to drop this in here but guys, if you have straight on your profile, I’m not interested" So on your analogy above... Isn't that bigotry towards straight guys on your profile?? Mr F. " It’s not an analogy it’s a very simple question, one which you appear to have got annoyed with and not answered | |||
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"I wouldn’t be interested in meeting bi men. It turns me off to think that their cock has been up another man’s arse or they may have had one up theirs. That’s my preference. I wouldn’t be interested in someone who was younger, short, skinny, who has sex with esc0rts/ pr0stitutes or uses dr*gs either - also preferences. Having a preference is not always ‘phobic’. Just because I choose not to have sex with someone who is bisexual, they are free to have consensual sex with whoever they want. Preference - ‘a greater liking for one alternative over another or others’ " Preferences based on bigotry and prejudice are still preferences but are also bigoted | |||
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"I wouldn’t be interested in meeting bi men. It turns me off to think that their cock has been up another man’s arse or they may have had one up theirs. That’s my preference. I wouldn’t be interested in someone who was younger, short, skinny, who has sex with esc0rts/ pr0stitutes or uses dr*gs either - also preferences. Having a preference is not always ‘phobic’. Just because I choose not to have sex with someone who is bisexual, they are free to have consensual sex with whoever they want. Preference - ‘a greater liking for one alternative over another or others’ " Your preference is on your profile too - so you are open about it! | |||
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"Just bisexual men don’t appeal to me. Also a concern regarding sexually transmitted diseases. I'm curious about this. The diseases bit I get, as pointed out above, there is a higher risk, giving blood for example is (or was?) not allowed if you are a man who sleeps with other men). How big the difference in risk actually is I don't know. The bit I'm curious about is where you say bisexual men don't appeal to you. There is absolutely no way to distinguish between a bi and straight man from looks, behaviour (outside of sex obviously), language , race, religion or anything else. Literally the only difference is the places they have previously put their willy. This is where the accusations of homophobia come from. If the idea of a man putting his willy in another man stops you being attracted to him, aside from the risk of STD's which you clearly mention as a separate issue, it is difficult to see how this can be anything other than an aversion to the act of gay sex. This single act is literally the *only* distinguishing difference between a straight or bi man. Therefore, being put off of a person because of their participation in this act cannot be anything other than homophobia unless there's something else I have missed? P Waits patiently for a response to this from people That's the worse analogy I've ever heard! It's a sexual preference, get yourself over it, we're not into bestiality either, but we've no issues with dogs... Ridiculous comment. Your profile states, and I quote: "I hate to have to drop this in here but guys, if you have straight on your profile, I’m not interested" So on your analogy above... Isn't that bigotry towards straight guys on your profile?? Mr F. It’s not an analogy it’s a very simple question, one which you appear to have got annoyed with and not answered " Funny as it was answered perfectly, but noticed you missed off my bigotry question to you? ... Listen, put your phobia cards away and get over yourself pal, you're being ridiculous and you know it | |||
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"I wouldn’t be interested in meeting bi men. It turns me off to think that their cock has been up another man’s arse or they may have had one up theirs. That’s my preference. I wouldn’t be interested in someone who was younger, short, skinny, who has sex with esc0rts/ pr0stitutes or uses dr*gs either - also preferences. Having a preference is not always ‘phobic’. Just because I choose not to have sex with someone who is bisexual, they are free to have consensual sex with whoever they want. Preference - ‘a greater liking for one alternative over another or others’ " 100% this, perfectly put. But some on here belive you have to shag what they say otherwise they pull out their phobia cards. Mr F. | |||
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"Just bisexual men don’t appeal to me. Also a concern regarding sexually transmitted diseases. I'm curious about this. The diseases bit I get, as pointed out above, there is a higher risk, giving blood for example is (or was?) not allowed if you are a man who sleeps with other men). How big the difference in risk actually is I don't know. The bit I'm curious about is where you say bisexual men don't appeal to you. There is absolutely no way to distinguish between a bi and straight man from looks, behaviour (outside of sex obviously), language , race, religion or anything else. Literally the only difference is the places they have previously put their willy. This is where the accusations of homophobia come from. If the idea of a man putting his willy in another man stops you being attracted to him, aside from the risk of STD's which you clearly mention as a separate issue, it is difficult to see how this can be anything other than an aversion to the act of gay sex. This single act is literally the *only* distinguishing difference between a straight or bi man. Therefore, being put off of a person because of their participation in this act cannot be anything other than homophobia unless there's something else I have missed? P Waits patiently for a response to this from people That's the worse analogy I've ever heard! It's a sexual preference, get yourself over it, we're not into bestiality either, but we've no issues with dogs... Ridiculous comment. Your profile states, and I quote: "I hate to have to drop this in here but guys, if you have straight on your profile, I’m not interested" So on your analogy above... Isn't that bigotry towards straight guys on your profile?? Mr F. It’s not an analogy it’s a very simple question, one which you appear to have got annoyed with and not answered Funny as it was answered perfectly, but noticed you missed off my bigotry question to you? ... Listen, put your phobia cards away and get over yourself pal, you're being ridiculous and you know it "If you are a man who wants sex with other men, saying you won't meet straight men isn't bigoted - there is literally no point in doing so if they are actually straight. I won't meet gay women, not because I don't like gay women but because they won't be sexually interested in me. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not being accusatory or judgemental with my question. If you find the idea of two men having sex distasteful that is, as you say, a preference. Provided a person doesn't discriminate against a person for their sexuallity (and last I checked, not wanting sexy with someone isn't discrimination) then all is good. The point I'm getting at is that people (for whatever reason) appear (to me) to be hiding their distaste for gay sex behind the curtain of 'sexual preference'. There is no way you can claim to not be sexually attracted to all bi men as there is not one single distinguishing feature of being bi. The only way you can ever know is when a person tells you they are bi which means it can only be the knowledge of what they like that puts you off. There are a number of similar types of threads that appear around (for example) people who put on their profile that they don't fancy Asian men or black men and similar debates ensure. The difference in these cases is there is a set of physically distinguishing features associated with the preference and while in some cases the preference may have racist origins, it isn't possible to say it always does. In this case though, there is literally nothing to distinguish a bi man from a straight one except knowledge of their preference. Therefore it can only be the idea of gay sex that is the issue. And that's fine, but let's not pretend this isn't the case eh? P | |||
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"I wouldn’t be interested in meeting bi men. It turns me off to think that their cock has been up another man’s arse or they may have had one up theirs. That’s my preference. I wouldn’t be interested in someone who was younger, short, skinny, who has sex with esc0rts/ pr0stitutes or uses dr*gs either - also preferences. Having a preference is not always ‘phobic’. Just because I choose not to have sex with someone who is bisexual, they are free to have consensual sex with whoever they want. Preference - ‘a greater liking for one alternative over another or others’ 100% this, perfectly put. But some on here belive you have to shag what they say otherwise they pull out their phobia cards. Mr F. " Not all bi guys indulge in anal, the same as not all heterosexual people. 🤷♂️🤷♂️ | |||
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"I wouldn’t be interested in meeting bi men. It turns me off to think that their cock has been up another man’s arse or they may have had one up theirs. That’s my preference. I wouldn’t be interested in someone who was younger, short, skinny, who has sex with esc0rts/ pr0stitutes or uses dr*gs either - also preferences. Having a preference is not always ‘phobic’. Just because I choose not to have sex with someone who is bisexual, they are free to have consensual sex with whoever they want. Preference - ‘a greater liking for one alternative over another or others’ 100% this, perfectly put. But some on here belive you have to shag what they say otherwise they pull out their phobia cards. Mr F. Not all bi guys indulge in anal, the same as not all heterosexual people. 🤷♂️🤷♂️" I think this is one of the problems with Fab labels. What one person considers bi another wouldn't. And adding "curious" is weird, it seems to be short hand for "a little bit" there's plenty of people who aren't curious, know exactly what their boundaries are but wouldn't consider themselves bi but who would be happy with say mutual touching in a 3some situation. P | |||
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"I wouldn’t be interested in meeting bi men. It turns me off to think that their cock has been up another man’s arse or they may have had one up theirs. That’s my preference. I wouldn’t be interested in someone who was younger, short, skinny, who has sex with esc0rts/ pr0stitutes or uses dr*gs either - also preferences. Having a preference is not always ‘phobic’. Just because I choose not to have sex with someone who is bisexual, they are free to have consensual sex with whoever they want. Preference - ‘a greater liking for one alternative over another or others’ 100% this, perfectly put. But some on here belive you have to shag what they say otherwise they pull out their phobia cards. Mr F. Not all bi guys indulge in anal, the same as not all heterosexual people. 🤷♂️🤷♂️" Anal was just an example. I don’t find the idea of any man on man play (kissing, touching, oral) a turn on either. No offence intended. I have no problem with others indulging in what they like but it just wouldn’t do it for me 🤷🏼♀️ | |||
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" Its ok for bi men not to want to meet straight men but if straight men dont want to meet bi men then there is a problem? And saying there is no way to not be sexually attracted to all bi men? If you are straight then you are not attracted to men full stop be it straight, bi or gay Re read and compare the 2 paragraphs" Who said anything about men not wanting to meet bi men? This is about people who do meet men but distinguish between those who are straight and those who are bi. Saying "I am a straight man and don't want sex with another man" is fine. If you are a couple and say that you want to meet men but say you find bi men unattractive, the only thing that you find unattractive is the knowledge of their being bi - there is literally no other things that distinguishes between them and straight men. You seem to be labouring under the misconception that I'm saying this is wrong, I'm not. I'm just saying let's not pretend that there is some other reason. Anyone who meets men but claims they're not sexually attracted to bi men is saying they find the act of gay sex so distasteful they'll not meet anyone who has done it. P | |||
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" Its ok for bi men not to want to meet straight men but if straight men dont want to meet bi men then there is a problem? And saying there is no way to not be sexually attracted to all bi men? If you are straight then you are not attracted to men full stop be it straight, bi or gay Re read and compare the 2 paragraphs Who said anything about men not wanting to meet bi men? This is about people who do meet men but distinguish between those who are straight and those who are bi. Saying "I am a straight man and don't want sex with another man" is fine. If you are a couple and say that you want to meet men but say you find bi men unattractive, the only thing that you find unattractive is the knowledge of their being bi - there is literally no other things that distinguishes between them and straight men. You seem to be labouring under the misconception that I'm saying this is wrong, I'm not. I'm just saying let's not pretend that there is some other reason. Anyone who meets men but claims they're not sexually attracted to bi men is saying they find the act of gay sex so distasteful they'll not meet anyone who has done it. P" Maybe its a trust issue then? There are plenty of posts not just about bi men but also bi women who claim they can play straight but as soon as the clothes start coming off they seem to ignore or forget the boundaries that were set. | |||
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" Its ok for bi men not to want to meet straight men but if straight men dont want to meet bi men then there is a problem? And saying there is no way to not be sexually attracted to all bi men? If you are straight then you are not attracted to men full stop be it straight, bi or gay Re read and compare the 2 paragraphs Who said anything about men not wanting to meet bi men? This is about people who do meet men but distinguish between those who are straight and those who are bi. Saying "I am a straight man and don't want sex with another man" is fine. If you are a couple and say that you want to meet men but say you find bi men unattractive, the only thing that you find unattractive is the knowledge of their being bi - there is literally no other things that distinguishes between them and straight men. You seem to be labouring under the misconception that I'm saying this is wrong, I'm not. I'm just saying let's not pretend that there is some other reason. Anyone who meets men but claims they're not sexually attracted to bi men is saying they find the act of gay sex so distasteful they'll not meet anyone who has done it. P Maybe its a trust issue then? There are plenty of posts not just about bi men but also bi women who claim they can play straight but as soon as the clothes start coming off they seem to ignore or forget the boundaries that were set." There is more than enough straight men who fail to comprehend boundaries once sex starts regardless of being bisexual. We just need to look at news and assault reports for this concerning rising figure in general | |||
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"Just bisexual men don’t appeal to me. Also a concern regarding sexually transmitted diseases. I'm curious about this. The diseases bit I get, as pointed out above, there is a higher risk, giving blood for example is (or was?) not allowed if you are a man who sleeps with other men). How big the difference in risk actually is I don't know. The bit I'm curious about is where you say bisexual men don't appeal to you. There is absolutely no way to distinguish between a bi and straight man from looks, behaviour (outside of sex obviously), language , race, religion or anything else. Literally the only difference is the places they have previously put their willy. This is where the accusations of homophobia come from. If the idea of a man putting his willy in another man stops you being attracted to him, aside from the risk of STD's which you clearly mention as a separate issue, it is difficult to see how this can be anything other than an aversion to the act of gay sex. This single act is literally the *only* distinguishing difference between a straight or bi man. Therefore, being put off of a person because of their participation in this act cannot be anything other than homophobia unless there's something else I have missed? P Waits patiently for a response to this from people That's the worse analogy I've ever heard! It's a sexual preference, get yourself over it, we're not into bestiality either, but we've no issues with dogs... Ridiculous comment. Your profile states, and I quote: "I hate to have to drop this in here but guys, if you have straight on your profile, I’m not interested" So on your analogy above... Isn't that bigotry towards straight guys on your profile?? Mr F. It’s not an analogy it’s a very simple question, one which you appear to have got annoyed with and not answered Funny as it was answered perfectly, but noticed you missed off my bigotry question to you? ... Listen, put your phobia cards away and get over yourself pal, you're being ridiculous and you know it
If you are a man who wants sex with other men, saying you won't meet straight men isn't bigoted - there is literally no point in doing so if they are actually straight. I won't meet gay women, not because I don't like gay women but because they won't be sexually interested in me.
Please don't get me wrong, I'm not being accusatory or judgemental with my question. If you find the idea of two men having sex distasteful that is, as you say, a preference. Provided a person doesn't discriminate against a person for their sexuallity (and last I checked, not wanting sexy with someone isn't discrimination) then all is good. The point I'm getting at is that people (for whatever reason) appear (to me) to be hiding their distaste for gay sex behind the curtain of 'sexual preference'. There is no way you can claim to not be sexually attracted to all bi men as there is not one single distinguishing feature of being bi. The only way you can ever know is when a person tells you they are bi which means it can only be the knowledge of what they like that puts you off.
There are a number of similar types of threads that appear around (for example) people who put on their profile that they don't fancy Asian men or black men and similar debates ensure. The difference in these cases is there is a set of physically distinguishing features associated with the preference and while in some cases the preference may have racist origins, it isn't possible to say it always does. In this case though, there is literally nothing to distinguish a bi man from a straight one except knowledge of their preference. Therefore it can only be the idea of gay sex that is the issue. And that's fine, but let's not pretend this isn't the case eh?
P"Who are you to tell us what we think? Your soap box rant will not change our minds, we won't go with bi men no matter what you think, that's clearly a 'you' problem like all the others on here who throw around their 'phobic' cards to make themselves look good, it looks sad in my opinion. If anyone doesn't like the fact that Mrs F will not shove a a 'bi' dick up her fanny then don't look, honestly we give not one shite! Enjoy playing another one of your 'phobic' cards to this response, again not one shit given
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"I am openly Bi and proud of it. if people dont like it that is their problem not mine..but I dont deserve abuse like I ve had on here. Some of the generalisations on here are absolutely hilarious....we dont all have a cock up our arses or our cock pounding some rugby player in a wood somewhere. It might suprise some on here that alot of us are very selective on who we meet...as yet Ive not had the urge to turn up in a car park after dark and open my legs for random men, who ive never met, shoot their spunk into me...but each to their own. Anyway its not all doom, Ive had some great meets on here with couples and other guys.I get lots of offers from straight guys who want a BJ...wont be me doing it unless you are honest about your sexuality. Back to the abuse I got. It tickled me that the lady concerned, who acused me of spreading diseases, has a lovely pic of her with someones seed seeping from her. Perhaps some people should think before they post...love on this Sunday people " Well said Thank you 💜💜 | |||
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"I wouldn’t be interested in meeting bi men. It turns me off to think that their cock has been up another man’s arse or they may have had one up theirs. That’s my preference. I wouldn’t be interested in someone who was younger, short, skinny, who has sex with esc0rts/ pr0stitutes or uses dr*gs either - also preferences. Having a preference is not always ‘phobic’. Just because I choose not to have sex with someone who is bisexual, they are free to have consensual sex with whoever they want. Preference - ‘a greater liking for one alternative over another or others’ 100% this, perfectly put. But some on here belive you have to shag what they say otherwise they pull out their phobia cards. Mr F. Not all bi guys indulge in anal, the same as not all heterosexual people. 🤷♂️🤷♂️ Anal was just an example. I don’t find the idea of any man on man play (kissing, touching, oral) a turn on either. No offence intended. I have no problem with others indulging in what they like but it just wouldn’t do it for me 🤷🏼♀️" Me neither. People can’t seem to understand that though. Oh well. We like what we like | |||
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"I wouldn’t be interested in meeting bi men. It turns me off to think that their cock has been up another man’s arse or they may have had one up theirs. That’s my preference. I wouldn’t be interested in someone who was younger, short, skinny, who has sex with esc0rts/ pr0stitutes or uses dr*gs either - also preferences. Having a preference is not always ‘phobic’. Just because I choose not to have sex with someone who is bisexual, they are free to have consensual sex with whoever they want. Preference - ‘a greater liking for one alternative over another or others’ 100% this, perfectly put. But some on here belive you have to shag what they say otherwise they pull out their phobia cards. Mr F. Not all bi guys indulge in anal, the same as not all heterosexual people. 🤷♂️🤷♂️ Anal was just an example. I don’t find the idea of any man on man play (kissing, touching, oral) a turn on either. No offence intended. I have no problem with others indulging in what they like but it just wouldn’t do it for me 🤷🏼♀️ Me neither. People can’t seem to understand that though. Oh well. We like what we like "There's lots of things that don't do it for me either but I wouldn't refuse to meet someone because they have enjoyed those things previously - out even intend to again. I'm not turned on in the slightest by bdsm of any kind, there is an element of fascination but I've never watched someone being spanked and got aroused. Shibari is again a really interesting skill but has zero arousal factor for me. I wouldn't however refuse to meet someone who admitted an interest in, or enjoyment of, these things. I don't think anyone (at least not anyone with a brain) is saying everyone should be turned on by bi sex. The issue being discussed is the refusal to meet someone who has that interest. For a woman in particular, there is no way a meet with a bi man could ever involve anything bi, it could only ever be heterosexual sex. I get that for a man there may be the fear that a bi man may sexually assault them - and from the very aggressive and defensive answers since have given I suspect fear is a big driver but that is only my opinion. The point I've tried to make, with clearly limited success, isn't that people *should* enjoy bi sex, it that, aside from the knowledge of what someone enjoys, there is absolutely no difference between a bi man and a straight man. If you are a person (or couple) that meets men, but refuses to meet bi men, aside from the rather dubious idea that they carry a higher risk of std's, the ONLY reason for that refusal is the knowledge of the fact that the person has indulged in gay sex is so awful to you it puts you off the person altogether. I would suggest that there are not many (legal) sexual practices that would prevent the majority of people on here meeting a person they otherwise liked. In most cases, it would simply be a case of "I'm not interested in doing X or y with you, but I'll happily do z" Where people do have such boundaries - I don't meet smokers, I won't meet people who take dr#gs, I won't meet people who have bareback sex, I don't meet people with kids upstairs, I don't meet unverified etc - there is either an attraction issue (smoking) moral issue (dr#gs, kids in the house) or perceived safety issue (bareback, unverified) I submit there are very few other sexual preferences that don't have one of these issues attached that are commonly found on profiles as an absolute no chance of ever meeting anyone who practices them. It is common for people to say for example "I'm not into the 3 p's. I'm yet to see a profile that says 'I refuse to meet anyone who has ever enjoyed pain as part of sex' Maybe that explains a bit better the difference that some of us seem to believe is there and others clearly don't? P | |||
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