FabSwingers.com forum: Thyroid Related Depression

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Somebody was good enough to start a topic the other week about Underactive Thyroid aka Hypothyroidism and ever since I shared my knowledge I've been getting a lot of requests for help.

Always glad to help when I can but now it looks like my next fight with the depression is on. Sounds silly to those that don't know.

Paranoia, low mood, sadness, aleination, neck pains and I just can't seem to wake up enough to pay attention. It comes on in the space of a week or two, sometimes as quick as a few days. Talking about it really helps you to stay focused. As does a few drops of St John's Wort in a glass of warm water twice a day.

If you suffer Hypothyroidism, don't take prozac when you get depressed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The drug of choice for your condition is Levothyroxine, one a day. Need your hormone and blood checking regularly.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

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Are you sure your depression is caused by your thyroid? A the poster above said, get regular checkups, prozac isnt the only thing thats on offer there are many drugs that could help, short or long term or as you say talking about it. Have you had your vitamin D levels checked recently?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was offered citralopram (or however its spelt) and was suicidal on them so stopped taking them. i do get low points but am pretty good on the whole at dealing with things.

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

Gawd sounds just like me ... plus my auto immune issues flair up on occasion I now have developed Psoriasis on my head . Enough to depress anyone. I have been on efexor time release they worked great but too expensive for my doc to prescribe

he put me on citalopram 20mg then raised to 40mg I was steady on that. ( flat with no ups or downs) just numb. Came off them got breast cancer and coped well.

Now im back on the downer ..blerg ! Cry itch dont sleep cry more . he gave me Amitriptyline 25mg to help sleep but they dont work and I wake up heavy ..Not sure which way to go now really so good luck with finding something that works.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Aye I was born with hypothyroidism and diagnosed age 2. Been on Levothyroxine all my life. You know they're related when the depression comes with the physical pains and oddities associated with low blood thyroxine levels.

Prozac is bad for you because its packed with fluoride, devastating to the pineal gland and the hypothalamus and if iodine intake can't fix what's wrong with your hormones etc. you can suffer a Myxedemal Coma, irreversible if the paramedics and doctors don't know what your condition is.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I was offered citralopram (or however its spelt) and was suicidal on them so stopped taking them. i do get low points but am pretty good on the whole at dealing with things."

Glad to hear you have fighting spirit. It's an essential. St John's Wort is an excellent cure too though. And fighting yourself does wear you down after a lifetime lol

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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago

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All I know is that my mother was diagnosed with under active thyroid. Extreme weight loss etc similar to cancer effects....treatment worked well and she was told she would be on treatment for life.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"All I know is that my mother was diagnosed with under active thyroid. Extreme weight loss etc similar to cancer effects....treatment worked well and she was told she would be on treatment for life."

Wasnt it Hyper-Thyroidism? (overactive)? Underactive thyroid makes you put on weight, my mum had the other and went skinny for a while. Oddly enough I was the cause of that after she gave birth to me

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By *wanzMan
over a year ago

Swansea

I've been on Citalopram for aaaages, I get good days and bad days ...

If talking helps - PLEASE feel free to drop me a line / a rant / a moan or whatever you want to vent ...

I know that there isnt a lot worse than not being able to tell anyone ...

You may not know me - but I know depression and I will try to help you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Iv been suffer with underactive thyroids for about yr and half I have blood tests every three months but the doctors won't give me tablets for it, I'm unsure why they won't give me tablets, I hate my weight iv never been this size ever iv always been slim so this size makes me depressed, x

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By *icechap50Man
over a year ago

Dudley

I'm on Levothyroxine too 1 a day for life

It is under active that you're supposed to put on weight,but it's never affected me

Can't say I've got any side effects that I've noticed

Except for the regular horn of course

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

When I started on Thyroxine 200mcg daily 20 years ago it killed my libido completely was celibate for ten years.I developed an autoimmune condition which they treated as thrush for years . sex was impossible at that time anyway so just withdrew took them ten years to find I was depressed as well. Life could have been so much better had they sorted it sooner.Loss of sex drive weight gain and LS are now found to be connected.

No one ever discusses the LS openly which is a shame as you tend to think you are the only one. Thank heavens for the internet and sites set up to enable one to discuss these problems and find you not alone. No wonder Im depressed LOL

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Awww man, it gets really shitty for some people doesn't it?!

Doctors here are no better than turds in white coats sometimes. Really lacking knowledge in comparison to the ones in the states.

Keep smiling people, lets make being fucked up look good lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

due to an auto immune problem a couple of years ago i had a blip with mine and had throtoxicosis. i was a total nightmare. forgetful,aggressive,miserable and...well let's just say odd. it was a nightmare that i wouldn't wish on anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's like a big black cloud surrounds me.

I was diagnosed with an overactive thyroid. When I was 29 nd trying to start a family. I'd been on the pill for a lot of years. Which had masked most of my symptoms. After coming off the pill everything changed. I started to get the shakes. I found it pretty hard to keep still. I always had to be on the go. I never felt the cold. As I was always running on the hot side. I could eat anything in large amounts. But always felt hungry. The palpitations scared me though. I was treated with carbimazol to start with. But it's not a long term treatment. So Ended up having the radioactive iodine treatment.

I'm now left with an underactive thyroid. Talk about the flip side of the coin. The depression creeps up on me. It tends to have got a hold of me before I realise it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have it too just had my levels checked. I'm a bugger mind as find the side effects from my thyroxin and metformin so bad I have bad days and don't take them I know I know!! Anyway back to taking them daily just curious as to why some only take 1 tablet a day when I take 4? And then my 3 metformin too not a good thing for someone with a tablet phobia!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Also, just in case any of your doctors don't know, dont take anything with Codeine. Fucks you right up mentally and physically. Stumps your metabolism!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have it too just had my levels checked. I'm a bugger mind as find the side effects from my thyroxin and metformin so bad I have bad days and don't take them I know I know!! Anyway back to taking them daily just curious as to why some only take 1 tablet a day when I take 4? And then my 3 metformin too not a good thing for someone with a tablet phobia!!! "

depends on the strength of the tablets.. and the results of your TSH and t4 levels in the blood.

Their tablet could be one 100mcg tablet, you could be taking four 25mcg tablets

tablets come in strengths of 25mcg, 50mcg, 100mcg

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

"Also, just in case any of your doctors don't know, dont take anything with Codeine. Fucks you right up mentally and physically. Stumps your metabolism!"

They gave me codeine when I had the lumpectomy last year and my doc gives me cocodamol for my arthritis pain...

lol I cant be more fucked up in the mind anyway..

Just mkes me constipated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wow just read this thread. Amazing what you find with a forum search.

I had a break down at work and truly have never felt so bad.

i take 1000mcg Thyroxine daily and 60mcg of Liothyronine and yet my hormones are still not behaving remotely anywhere near the 'normal' levels.

Im constantly cold, feeling low and admitted to myself that i can no longer attempt to be wonder woman and do everyhing. Massive weight gains, hair falling out in clumps, puffy face, hoarse voice.

Trying to explain to people who dont understand is like talking to a brick wall.. gave up years ago. I was told ive got 5yrs left by my doctors if no treatment is found. My kidneys are failing and ive a fatty liver. Im 25yrs old and a daughter im petrified of leaving behind

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

Oh my lord that is terrible

I take 200mcg daily your dose is huge. Hope they find a way to help you

Do you have any other autoimmune conditions fibromialga lichen sclerosis rhuematism itchy skin psoriasis that run alongside the thyroid issues ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im also on thyroxine 150 mgs, in my teens i was diagnosed wiv overactive had it removed at 17..i have always suffered with depression on meds for that too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh my lord that is terrible

I take 200mcg daily your dose is huge. Hope they find a way to help you

Do you have any other autoimmune conditions fibromialga lichen sclerosis rhuematism itchy skin psoriasis that run alongside the thyroid issues ?"

no. they tested me for cushings syndrome but that came back negative.

i was admitted for an absoption test and discovered by blood wont absorb medication properly so im kinda stuffed until they can nail that bit.

Dispite my 1000mcg daily dose my TSH levels are currently at 314.

Doctors and my Endocronologists are truly baffled by this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anyone else had theirs removed??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Has anyone else had theirs removed??

i have a friend who had hers removed.. she is now on a low level of thyroxine for life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I understand your situation as I had my Thyroid removed in May.

It has taken 6 months to get my dose right I am currently on 175mg of thyroxin.(I am still have blood tests to be sure)

But I found the whole experience an absolute nightmare. I have experience tiredness, mood changes, hair loss,dry skin and loads of other symptoms.

I have found that taking several vitamin supplement I am back to my old self. I was very skeptical about taking the supplement but they seem to be making a difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well 30 years on thyroxine here....its not fun..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't have your thyroid removed unless you really have too. As this can cause more problems.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"I understand your situation as I had my Thyroid removed in May.

It has taken 6 months to get my dose right I am currently on 175mg of thyroxin.(I am still have blood tests to be sure)

But I found the whole experience an absolute nightmare. I have experience tiredness, mood changes, hair loss,dry skin and loads of other symptoms.

I have found that taking several vitamin supplement I am back to my old self. I was very skeptical about taking the supplement but they seem to be making a difference.

had mine removed 3 years ago with a huge goitre( had underactive which unusual to get a goitre) which extended to my ear... Was very ill and many just dont realise the importance of our thyroid. That said finally got thyroxin dose right be it a huge dose! ( on 300mcg daily ) and feel the best i have in years!! With all symptoms and bad effects reversed totaly

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Interesting, I've had poor thyroid function for a while, not bad enough to treat, just various symptoms over the years...and funnily enough did a lot of research in the field 'cos I also had two sick horses, one with a rare thyroid adenocarcinoma, and her son, who was hypothyroid.

I found St Johns Wort helpful for me - I felt so good on Zyban when I gave up smoking I worked out that was the nearest I could get in a herbal. Vitex too as a dopamine agonist.

There is a link between thyroid lets say inefficiency and insulin resistance, so worth checking out the diet is appropriate for controlling that. And yes, I too found supplementation in humans and horses might be required, sufficient magnesium, iodine, selenium, zinc etc.. L-Carnitine for muscle problems.

Beware of anything containing phytoestrogens though, they can depress thyroid function - I made that mistake earlier this year and my TSH went up.

And I believe I found a broad spectrum daylight bulb really helped in winter - gonna order another one of those as soon as I finish this post. It may be that in some cases there is a hypothalamic/pituitary cause to a range of secondary symptoms. The horses nearly always ended up with Cushings after years of metabolic problems of one description or another and that was mooted in their case too. Something environmental (in the broader sense of the word) seems to be the cause in their case and I suspect many humans too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I take a combination of B12,Vitamin E,D,B complex, Zinc, Selenium and Magnesium daily and it really seems to be doing the trick.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My sister was diagnosed for years with an under/over active thyroid. Last year got the correct diagnosis of haemochromatosis (body absorbing/holding too much iron) she now gives a pint of blood a month & is better than I have seen her since we were kids.

This is a widespread genetic trate & the 2nd largest cause of heartattacks after heart disease but no-one seems to gave heard of it. Luckily sisters diagnosis has meant my dads been diagnosed as well & both being monitored.

Just thought I'd share as my sister was messed about for half her life for an.illness she didn't really have and what has got it in check is quite simple.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"wow just read this thread. Amazing what you find with a forum search.

I had a break down at work and truly have never felt so bad.

i take 1000mcg Thyroxine daily and 60mcg of Liothyronine and yet my hormones are still not behaving remotely anywhere near the 'normal' levels.

Im constantly cold, feeling low and admitted to myself that i can no longer attempt to be wonder woman and do everyhing. Massive weight gains, hair falling out in clumps, puffy face, hoarse voice.

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Your doc need to send you to see specials at the hospital as your GP only know so much .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Gawd sounds just like me ... plus my auto immune issues flair up on occasion I now have developed Psoriasis on my head . Enough to depress anyone. I have been on efexor time release they worked great but too expensive for my doc to prescribe

he put me on citalopram 20mg then raised to 40mg I was steady on that. ( flat with no ups or downs) just numb. Came off them got breast cancer and coped well.

Wow!! Tough times. Huge hug and a smile xx

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"My sister was diagnosed for years with an under/over active thyroid. Last year got the correct diagnosis of haemochromatosis (body absorbing/holding too much iron) she now gives a pint of blood a month & is better than I have seen her since we were kids.

Just thought I'd share as my sister was messed about for half her life for an.illness she didn't really have and what has got it in check is quite simple."

Good point, the horses actually have no mechanism for ridding the body of iron so it can build up with them quite easily and seriously adversely affect liver and metabolic function - so worth checking ferritin levels have been checked I would think.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Also, just in case any of your doctors don't know, dont take anything with Codeine. Fucks you right up mentally and physically. Stumps your metabolism!"

I have been on max thyroxine dose for a while, 200 mg, only other advice is take it at night as it is absorbed better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Also, just in case any of your doctors don't know, dont take anything with Codeine. Fucks you right up mentally and physically. Stumps your metabolism!

I have been on max thyroxine dose for a while, 200 mg, only other advice is take it at night as it is absorbed better."

200mcg isnt a maximum dose..

i was told take it in the morning an hour before food was the optimum time.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"Also, just in case any of your doctors don't know, dont take anything with Codeine. Fucks you right up mentally and physically. Stumps your metabolism!

I have been on max thyroxine dose for a while, 200 mg, only other advice is take it at night as it is absorbed better.

200mcg isnt a maximum dose..

i was told take it in the morning an hour before food was the optimum time. "

same here, morning before food and i'm on 300mcg( after total thyroid removal) originally started on 25mcg years back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had my thyroid removed 3 years ago due to cancer and never felt the same since

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Also, just in case any of your doctors don't know, dont take anything with Codeine. Fucks you right up mentally and physically. Stumps your metabolism!

I have been on max thyroxine dose for a while, 200 mg, only other advice is take it at night as it is absorbed better.

200mcg isnt a maximum dose..

i was told take it in the morning an hour before food was the optimum time.

same here, morning before food and i'm on 300mcg( after total thyroid removal) originally started on 25mcg years back "

But two important studies -- a 2007 study published in the journal Clinical Endocrinology, and a follow-up larger randomized trial reported in the December 2010 issue of the Archives of Internal Medicine -- have found that taking the same dose of levothyroxine (i.e., Synthroid) at bedtime, as compared to first thing in the morning, may be better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Also, just in case any of your doctors don't know, dont take anything with Codeine. Fucks you right up mentally and physically. Stumps your metabolism!

I have been on max thyroxine dose for a while, 200 mg, only other advice is take it at night as it is absorbed better.

200mcg isnt a maximum dose..

i was told take it in the morning an hour before food was the optimum time.

same here, morning before food and i'm on 300mcg( after total thyroid removal) originally started on 25mcg years back

Ive just been trusting my Endocronologist as his advice

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Also, just in case any of your doctors don't know, dont take anything with Codeine. Fucks you right up mentally and physically. Stumps your metabolism!

I have been on max thyroxine dose for a while, 200 mg, only other advice is take it at night as it is absorbed better.

200mcg isnt a maximum dose..

i was told take it in the morning an hour before food was the optimum time.

same here, morning before food and i'm on 300mcg( after total thyroid removal) originally started on 25mcg years back

Ive just been trusting my Endocronologist as his advice"

I dont have one. I research independently, since my docs dont understand the links between hypothyroidism and depression

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

CCK, a lot of DRs know nothing about any kind of related Depression.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"CCK, a lot of DRs know nothing about any kind of related Depression.

Femme knows!

Depression is the new PTS, nobody wants to acknowledge it

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