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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Are we, as a nation, becoming too litigious?

Are people no longer taking responsibility for their own actions?

Is it a default setting now to say "its not my fault"?

When did we adopt a compo culture?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was a culture adopted when people realised it was easy money. Hard to turn the ambulance chasers away.

I was removed from my motorbike a few years ago and even before the consultant and police had been to see me in a&e I'd got injury lawyers pestering me. Swiftly told to go away in not so polite terms.

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By *arkstaffsMan
over a year ago

Rugeley

Which is why insurance is now so expensive. This has gone too far now. Like the copper who wanted to claim off a garage after tripping up. Look where you're walking!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If someone's really hurt, and I'm talking life changing, then fair enough..............claim away to try and ease your suffering.

It's the flippant ones that piss me off.

'Ooo. I got a paper cut, 2 grand please boss for allowing me contact with lethal stationary.'

Wankers

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

I'll admit to using a lawyer 4 years ago after an accident at work, which was totally preventable.

My Union appointed a lawyer who got me compensation; I didn't get mega-bucks, but at least it opened up communication channels to prevent any similar events happening again.

The emphasis was made by the legal people that if I'd been standing literally one inch further to my right, where the incident occurred, I'd have been killed outright!

I'm glad to be here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the claiming culture today has gone way ott

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No Ben. It's all your fault!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Blame the Americans, they'll sue you if you don't put the toilet seat down and they hurt there back doing it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This nonsense started when the incumbant gov. at the time allowed Solicitors to advertise their services, been downhill ever since.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too many solicitors looking to make easy money.

Of course if your accident was preventable by applying common sense then tough.

If the accident was caused by someone who didn't care then sue them...

But the payout must reflect the changes to your life, hurt feelings???? damaged to property (clothes etc) = yes, time off work with sick pay = no

What actual losses that were suffered...

I also though that you were not legally allowed to benefit from a insurance claim, i.e. be better off as a result????

you have a genuine life changing injury

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are we, as a nation, becoming too litigious?

Are people no longer taking responsibility for their own actions?

Is it a default setting now to say "its not my fault"?

When did we adopt a compo culture?

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People often don't like to admit their fuckup was all of their own making. It is amusing though at times watching someone blame their situation on all but themselves.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

The great shame is that it makes all claims look dodgy, and many people truly do have grounds for a genuine claim.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you're not seriously hurt and it's someone else's fault it amounts to(at the time) free money.

who turns down free money?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Several years ago I crashed my bike quite bad. Rider error but suffered 2 fractures, 1 nasty laceration, trashed a few hundred quid worth of kit, off work for a couple of weeks. It was rider error and my fault entirely but the amount of people that suggested finding a convenient pot hole and suing the council was a real eye opener.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"if you're not seriously hurt and it's someone else's fault it amounts to(at the time) free money.

who turns down free money?"

I suppose that depends on your financial situation and how much dignity you have. Personally, I would not sue unless I had very good reason and someone that caused an injury/loss was clearly liable and at fault.

What made me start this thread was the policeman suing the garage for tripping over the kerbstone, and the amount of adverts for ambulance chasers.

I remember the first time I visited the states and was amazed how many adverts like this were on tv etc. At the time I thought I am so glad the UK ain't like that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is the responsibility of Tony B.Liar. He introduced “No win, no fee” in 2003. B.Liar himself & his ugly, hideous & greedy wife were both lawyers so it comes as no surprise that he made the UK a paradise for lawyers. In fact he says that “Signing the European human rights act was the best thing that he ever did. You bet, as his grasping wife set up a company called Matrix to look after amongst others paedophiles. One case she successfully reversed court action barring a nonce from going anywhere near a park playground. Apparently the practice earns about £5 million a year. What I find strange is that no-body says anything. If John Major had done this & his wife Norma had set up a practice we would hear no end of protests from the left about nasty, self-serving Tories, but because one of their own did it that’s ok.

Interestingly in the UK we spend annually £36 per head per person in the UK but in Germany it’s only £4 however I don’t think the Krauts are being oppressed somehow. Ultimately this is a very bad thing for the UK & costs us jobs & investment.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

How dare we have barristers defending people in criminal cases.....shameful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The culture today is not to admit liability so if the claimant has not got an easy, watertight case forget it the solicitors do not want to earn their fee's.

As for taking responsibility for actions then take a look at the welfare state, not my fault I got pregnant! how many times?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How dare we have barristers defending people in criminal cases.....shameful"

Barristers only defend the innocent

They muddy the water and tarnish everyone else if their client is guilty...

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Maybe we should revert to the system where only the well off could afford to claim damages?, the Act was brought in specifically to tackle the industrial illness and injury claims that many workers could never afford bring in the past.

Should we deny them the right?

Asbestosis was rife amongst many former manual workers, who were offered little or no protection against bad working practices......I wouldn't like to deny them that right myself but hey, each to their own.

I know for some, miners, heavy industrial workers, and the like are beneath them and are seen as riff raff....I prefer to see them as an essential part of our industrial history and feel they should be able to claim damages for any poor working practises they had to endure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you're not seriously hurt and it's someone else's fault it amounts to(at the time) free money.

who turns down free money?

I suppose that depends on your financial situation and how much dignity you have. Personally, I would not sue unless I had very good reason and someone that caused an injury/loss was clearly liable and at fault.

What made me start this thread was the policeman suing the garage for tripping over the kerbstone, and the amount of adverts for ambulance chasers.

I remember the first time I visited the states and was amazed how many adverts like this were on tv etc. At the time I thought I am so glad the UK ain't like that!"

I'm sell employed and lucky enough to be booked up for the rest of the year. If I have an accident I have insurance to cover my wages for time off. What it doesn't cover is clients goodwill. If i'm laid up for 3 weeks i have to put everything back. Potentially I'm gonna lose some of the work as people aren't very patient. and if that's because of somebody else's negligence?.............

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"if you're not seriously hurt and it's someone else's fault it amounts to(at the time) free money.

who turns down free money?

I suppose that depends on your financial situation and how much dignity you have. Personally, I would not sue unless I had very good reason and someone that caused an injury/loss was clearly liable and at fault.

What made me start this thread was the policeman suing the garage for tripping over the kerbstone, and the amount of adverts for ambulance chasers.

I remember the first time I visited the states and was amazed how many adverts like this were on tv etc. At the time I thought I am so glad the UK ain't like that!

I'm sell employed and lucky enough to be booked up for the rest of the year. If I have an accident I have insurance to cover my wages for time off. What it doesn't cover is clients goodwill. If i'm laid up for 3 weeks i have to put everything back. Potentially I'm gonna lose some of the work as people aren't very patient. and if that's because of somebody else's negligence?............."

fair point. But would you sue for burning yourself on a hot drink in a cafe? Its these sort if claims I find disgusting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you're not seriously hurt and it's someone else's fault it amounts to(at the time) free money.

who turns down free money?

I suppose that depends on your financial situation and how much dignity you have. Personally, I would not sue unless I had very good reason and someone that caused an injury/loss was clearly liable and at fault.

What made me start this thread was the policeman suing the garage for tripping over the kerbstone, and the amount of adverts for ambulance chasers.

I remember the first time I visited the states and was amazed how many adverts like this were on tv etc. At the time I thought I am so glad the UK ain't like that!

I'm sell employed and lucky enough to be booked up for the rest of the year. If I have an accident I have insurance to cover my wages for time off. What it doesn't cover is clients goodwill. If i'm laid up for 3 weeks i have to put everything back. Potentially I'm gonna lose some of the work as people aren't very patient. and if that's because of somebody else's negligence?.............

fair point. But would you sue for burning yourself on a hot drink in a cafe? Its these sort if claims I find disgusting"

no of course i wouldn't. i wouldn't blame someone for something even it was only partly my fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The lawyers have got too much sway. This costs thousands of jobs.

I work in Property & builders don't have companies now, they all work self-employed. No body wants to have someone fall off a ladder & get sued. So if your looking at it from a workers rights & protection angle, this B.Liarism made things a lot worse for the workers.

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

this is one of the reason this country is failing, people wont take responsability for their actions, if you fall on a wet floor then maybe you should have noticed its wet!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was injured during a 'routine' NHS proceedure and in pain for over two years. Still not right now but you try to get them to say 'sorry' or accept it could have been their fault... no chance, and lawyers wont touch it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"if you're not seriously hurt and it's someone else's fault it amounts to(at the time) free money.

who turns down free money?

I suppose that depends on your financial situation and how much dignity you have. Personally, I would not sue unless I had very good reason and someone that caused an injury/loss was clearly liable and at fault.

What made me start this thread was the policeman suing the garage for tripping over the kerbstone, and the amount of adverts for ambulance chasers.

I remember the first time I visited the states and was amazed how many adverts like this were on tv etc. At the time I thought I am so glad the UK ain't like that!

I'm sell employed and lucky enough to be booked up for the rest of the year. If I have an accident I have insurance to cover my wages for time off. What it doesn't cover is clients goodwill. If i'm laid up for 3 weeks i have to put everything back. Potentially I'm gonna lose some of the work as people aren't very patient. and if that's because of somebody else's negligence?.............

fair point. But would you sue for burning yourself on a hot drink in a cafe? Its these sort if claims I find disgusting

no of course i wouldn't. i wouldn't blame someone for something even it was only partly my fault."

But sadly there are some that would!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Which is why insurance is now so expensive. This has gone too far now. Like the copper who wanted to claim off a garage after tripping up. Look where you're walking!"

And the one who claimed for feeling funny whilst investigating a drugs factory

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is the responsibility of Tony B.Liar. He introduced “No win, no fee” in 2003. B.Liar himself & his ugly, hideous & greedy wife were both lawyers so it comes as no surprise that he made the UK a paradise for lawyers. In fact he says that “Signing the European human rights act was the best thing that he ever did. You bet, as his grasping wife set up a company called Matrix to look after amongst others paedophiles. One case she successfully reversed court action barring a nonce from going anywhere near a park playground. Apparently the practice earns about £5 million a year. What I find strange is that no-body says anything. If John Major had done this & his wife Norma had set up a practice we would hear no end of protests from the left about nasty, self-serving Tories, but because one of their own did it that’s ok.

Interestingly in the UK we spend annually £36 per head per person in the UK but in Germany it’s only £4 however I don’t think the Krauts are being oppressed somehow. Ultimately this is a very bad thing for the UK & costs us jobs & investment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is the responsibility of Tony B.Liar. He introduced “No win, no fee” in 2003. B.Liar himself & his ugly, hideous & greedy wife were both lawyers so it comes as no surprise that he made the UK a paradise for lawyers. In fact he says that “Signing the European human rights act was the best thing that he ever did. You bet, as his grasping wife set up a company called Matrix to look after amongst others paedophiles. One case she successfully reversed court action barring a nonce from going anywhere near a park playground. Apparently the practice earns about £5 million a year. What I find strange is that no-body says anything. If John Major had done this & his wife Norma had set up a practice we would hear no end of protests from the left about nasty, self-serving Tories, but because one of their own did it that’s ok.

Interestingly in the UK we spend annually £36 per head per person in the UK but in Germany it’s only £4 however I don’t think the Krauts are being oppressed somehow. Ultimately this is a very bad thing for the UK & costs us jobs & investment.

"

That tirade was going pretty well until you ran out of emotive language. 'A bad thing' could have easily been 'catastrophic' at the very least.

You missed also a golden opportunity to label the left the 'loony' left. So marks off for that. 5/10.

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By *ss2011Man
over a year ago

Leeds/Bradford

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is funny we have gone the way America was by sueing at the drop off a hat, now America has gone the way we used to be.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Maybe we should revert to the system where only the well off could afford to claim damages?, the Act was brought in specifically to tackle the industrial illness and injury claims that many workers could never afford bring in the past.

Should we deny them the right?

Asbestosis was rife amongst many former manual workers, who were offered little or no protection against bad working practices......I wouldn't like to deny them that right myself but hey, each to their own.

I know for some, miners, heavy industrial workers, and the like are beneath them and are seen as riff raff....I prefer to see them as an essential part of our industrial history and feel they should be able to claim damages for any poor working practises they had to endure."

well said..

add in that the budget to the HSE has been reduced with a reduction in 'snap inspections' of one third and we are in danger of going back full circle to a time when ordinary good people wanting to provide for their families were injured and killed due to a lack of safety..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But you don't disagree with any of it because it is all completely factual. Unlike the looney left who lie about everything & everything's "Fatcha's fault innit!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But you don't disagree with any of it because it is all completely factual. Unlike the looney left who lie about everything & everything's "Fatcha's fault innit!" "

No not really. I just saw it, smelt it and tasted it for what it was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But you don't disagree with any of it because it is all completely factual. Unlike the looney left who lie about everything & everything's "Fatcha's fault innit!" "

Can't be bothered to comment on whether it is all completely factual or not. I do feel the need to ask why you felt it was accptable and why you felt the need to use the words hideous and ugly when talking about Cherie Blair?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It is funny we have gone the way America was by sueing at the drop off a hat, now America has gone the way we used to be."

You can get £10k compo if you drop your hat and say its someone else's fault

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"This is the responsibility of Tony B.Liar. He introduced “No win, no fee” in 2003. B.Liar himself & his ugly, hideous & greedy wife were both lawyers so it comes as no surprise that he made the UK a paradise for lawyers. In fact he says that “Signing the European human rights act was the best thing that he ever did. You bet, as his grasping wife set up a company called Matrix to look after amongst others paedophiles. One case she successfully reversed court action barring a nonce from going anywhere near a park playground. Apparently the practice earns about £5 million a year. What I find strange is that no-body says anything. If John Major had done this & his wife Norma had set up a practice we would hear no end of protests from the left about nasty, self-serving Tories, but because one of their own did it that’s ok.

Interestingly in the UK we spend annually £36 per head per person in the UK but in Germany it’s only £4 however I don’t think the Krauts are being oppressed somehow. Ultimately this is a very bad thing for the UK & costs us jobs & investment.

That tirade was going pretty well until you ran out of emotive language. 'A bad thing' could have easily been 'catastrophic' at the very least.

You missed also a golden opportunity to label the left the 'loony' left. So marks off for that. 5/10. "

lost my interest when there was no mention of the UK turning in North Korea because she is a barrister..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there was a female copper in the news last week tripped over in a petrol station after the staion called them up needing assistance,the copper stuck in a claim for a nice bit of compo,if they can do it no wonder lazy arse council estate scroungers think game on,sets a very bad example imo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there was a female copper in the news last week tripped over in a petrol station after the staion called them up needing assistance,the copper stuck in a claim for a nice bit of compo,if they can do it no wonder lazy arse council estate scroungers think game on,sets a very bad example imo "

Lazy arse council estate scroungers eh. Now that's more like it. Proper emotive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But you don't disagree with any of it because it is all completely factual. Unlike the looney left who lie about everything & everything's "Fatcha's fault innit!"

Can't be bothered to comment on whether it is all completely factual or not. I do feel the need to ask why you felt it was accptable and why you felt the need to use the words hideous and ugly when talking about Cherie Blair?"

You've got to be joking right? Have you seen her picture? She's an absolute munter! However her personality is even more ugly.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Can I put in a claim to my employer in 1986 for the attack at work? I had lots of stitches and everything. Which lawyer will handle that one for me?

I do think we are becoming too litigious but I also think it's part of the globalisation of business. Risk management is big business now.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Can I put in a claim to my employer in 1986 for the attack at work? I had lots of stitches and everything. Which lawyer will handle that one for me?

I do think we are becoming too litigious but I also think it's part of the globalisation of business. Risk management is big business now."

think for personal injury the time limit is 3 yrs..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But you don't disagree with any of it because it is all completely factual. Unlike the looney left who lie about everything & everything's "Fatcha's fault innit!"

Can't be bothered to comment on whether it is all completely factual or not. I do feel the need to ask why you felt it was accptable and why you felt the need to use the words hideous and ugly when talking about Cherie Blair?

You've got to be joking right? Have you seen her picture? She's an absolute munter! However her personality is even more ugly."

I still fail to see how those comments in anyway strengthen your argument though?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Can I put in a claim to my employer in 1986 for the attack at work? I had lots of stitches and everything. Which lawyer will handle that one for me?

I do think we are becoming too litigious but I also think it's part of the globalisation of business. Risk management is big business now.

think for personal injury the time limit is 3 yrs.."

I wasn't being serious. My employer could not have guessed that one of the cleaners would batter me about the head with an iron bar.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I put in a claim to my employer in 1986 for the attack at work? I had lots of stitches and everything. Which lawyer will handle that one for me?

I do think we are becoming too litigious but I also think it's part of the globalisation of business. Risk management is big business now."

if you got tennis elbow or white finger from grafting for your employer back in the day i'm damn certain after a doc says you have somthing that a old job can cause you could put a claim in for compo,there was always ads on the telly for miners and asbestosis sufferers about 5-10 years ago who got problems later on

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Can I put in a claim to my employer in 1986 for the attack at work? I had lots of stitches and everything. Which lawyer will handle that one for me?

I do think we are becoming too litigious but I also think it's part of the globalisation of business. Risk management is big business now.

think for personal injury the time limit is 3 yrs..

I wasn't being serious. My employer could not have guessed that one of the cleaners would batter me about the head with an iron bar."

was'nt totally sure tbh, did remove my reference to 'cut off' once i realised you had mentiond stitches lol..

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Can I put in a claim to my employer in 1986 for the attack at work? I had lots of stitches and everything. Which lawyer will handle that one for me?

I do think we are becoming too litigious but I also think it's part of the globalisation of business. Risk management is big business now.

think for personal injury the time limit is 3 yrs..

I wasn't being serious. My employer could not have guessed that one of the cleaners would batter me about the head with an iron bar.

was'nt totally sure tbh, did remove my reference to 'cut off' once i realised you had mentiond stitches lol.."

I can't shave off all my hair because of it - too many scars is not a good look.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Can I put in a claim to my employer in 1986 for the attack at work? I had lots of stitches and everything. Which lawyer will handle that one for me?

I do think we are becoming too litigious but I also think it's part of the globalisation of business. Risk management is big business now.

if you got tennis elbow or white finger from grafting for your employer back in the day i'm damn certain after a doc says you have somthing that a old job can cause you could put a claim in for compo,there was always ads on the telly for miners and asbestosis sufferers about 5-10 years ago who got problems later on"

That's because the health risks were not dealt with at the time. Asbestos is a classic case as the risks were not considered and no precautions were taken.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Strengthen my arguement? I gave a documented account of how B.Liar introduced no win no fee & how they've exploited it & how it has ruined the country & you still don't get it? My arguement doesn't need strengthening, but I do feel it necessary to call Cherie B.Liar an old hag because she is.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Can I put in a claim to my employer in 1986 for the attack at work? I had lots of stitches and everything. Which lawyer will handle that one for me?

I do think we are becoming too litigious but I also think it's part of the globalisation of business. Risk management is big business now.

if you got tennis elbow or white finger from grafting for your employer back in the day i'm damn certain after a doc says you have somthing that a old job can cause you could put a claim in for compo,there was always ads on the telly for miners and asbestosis sufferers about 5-10 years ago who got problems later on"

the personal injury has to be registered against the employer if they are negligent etc in 3 yrs or the case will fail in law..

the asbestosis issue is somewhat different as its pretty much accepted that people were working in unsafe conditions decades ago and also the effects can lay dormant for decades..

having said that other factors will come in with regards proof of employment, whether the employer still exists..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where theres a blame..theres a claim

..we're not all that bad - but we all have to make money somehow.

A lot of reform has taken place this area..so you will see a lot less of this.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Strengthen my arguement? I gave a documented account of how B.Liar introduced no win no fee & how they've exploited it & how it has ruined the country & you still don't get it? My arguement doesn't need strengthening, but I do feel it necessary to call Cherie B.Liar an old hag because she is. "

in 03 Blair was PM he was'nt practising in law at the same time, to say 'he introduced it' is stretching it..

more like your opinion largely influenced by your politics..

am not a fan of the guy either..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I put in a claim to my employer in 1986 for the attack at work? I had lots of stitches and everything. Which lawyer will handle that one for me?

I do think we are becoming too litigious but I also think it's part of the globalisation of business. Risk management is big business now.

think for personal injury the time limit is 3 yrs.."

Limitation period is in three parts;

Three years from date of accident (road traffic accidents etc)

Three years from date of knowledge of harm (asbestos etc)

Three years from the date they turn 18 were a minor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strengthen my arguement? I gave a documented account of how B.Liar introduced no win no fee & how they've exploited it & how it has ruined the country & you still don't get it? My arguement doesn't need strengthening, but I do feel it necessary to call Cherie B.Liar an old hag because she is. "

Documented how? You have a fantastic user name btw.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well B.Liar was PM when it got through Parliament in 2003 & he's an ex barrister. Of course he wasn't practising at the time, but don't you think that his experience of working in law might have influenced things? If it didn't Cherie certainly was working in law & making £5 million a year out of the Human Rights act.

Ok so I can't "document" the facts as I cannot put links on this forum, but please feel free to check what I've stated.

Obvioulsy I don't like Socialism, but that doesn't invalidate my arguement.

Thanks for the compliment about my username!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Ok so I can't "document" the facts...

...Thanks for the compliment about my username! "

Oh. So your lies are acceptable then.

It wasn't a compliment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only there are NO lies. Please, please, please tell me which bit is un-true! I would so like to prove you wrong!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only there are NO lies. Please, please, please tell me which bit is un-true! I would so like to prove you wrong! "

I'm going to regret giving you a free pass here, but I'm feeling generous due to a particularly good orgasm earlier this evening:

You haven't dealt with any part of Tony Blair's aspirational desire to want the same privelledges, previously reserved for the those only with the financial reserve to litigate.

You've red topped. Nothing more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah the old "Baffle with bullshit to cover up the loss of arguement" old chestnut I see!

I think I have more than covered Tony B.Liar's motivation for creating a paradise for Lawyers. Moreover, if you read the original question, I think you will find that my answers cover the subject also!

Nice debate!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah the old "Baffle with bullshit to cover up the loss of arguement" old chestnut I see!

I think I have more than covered Tony B.Liar's motivation for creating a paradise for Lawyers. Moreover, if you read the original question, I think you will find that my answers cover the subject also!

Nice debate! "

Yup. Knew I'd regret that one.

Tony B.Liar. Oh right, I see what you've done there...

Sorry, Mr B but just simply repeating previous lies doesn't qualify as 'more than covering'. It just sounds like desperation.

Still. I've distracted you. So that pleases me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I said before, please point out any "lies" that I have made. If you cannot substantiate anything then best not argue.

As you conceded that means you accept what I have said as fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As I said before, please point out any "lies" that I have made. If you cannot substantiate anything then best not argue.

As you conceded that means you accept what I have said as fact. "

So you at last see the point. I know it's a tricky concept, but just by spouting doesn't mean it's the truth. You were quite content to attribute all kinds of spurious allegation to Mr Blair,without any actual link to evidence, yet when I do this to you, I'm faced with indignation.

Concede. Interesting notion. But please don't bully people by warding them off posting on a thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You contested what I said. If you wanted to you could've varified the facts I provided quite easily on the internet. You know damn well that I cannot put links on here because it is the site rules.

So now I've decided to stand up for myself & successfully challenge your accusation of lies I get accused of bullying!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You contested what I said. If you wanted to you could've varified the facts I provided quite easily on the internet. You know damn well that I cannot put links on here because it is the site rules.

So now I've decided to stand up for myself & successfully challenge your accusation of lies I get accused of bullying!!! "

I come from a dying age. For some of us, our sole source of information is not the interweb.

Standing up for yourself would suggest you're being bullied yourself here. More accurate to say that you've been eloquently challenged. Possibly.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Empty vessels make the most noise!

Personal injury is my speciality and it's not easy to claim, and the changes in the law have made it more difficult. For a personal injury claim to proceed there needs to be more than a 50% chance of winning or the insurers won't touch it with a barge pole and it has to be someone elses fault.

I've turned down claims because it was the clients fault, claims against medical professionals and PCTs that whilst the results life changing, no fault was found.

I'm sure if you were exposed to chemicals at work that were killing you you'd be relieved to know your family would be cared for financially after your death etc.

Of course I see frivolous claims, like d*unks falling off bar stools and wanting to sue the brewery for making the beer! But after having a giggle, rolling of eyes and deep breathing I say no!

People can try and sue all they like, and in that regard claims have increased but there has to be causation and quantum of proof to succeed.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"this is one of the reason this country is failing, people wont take responsability for their actions, if you fall on a wet floor then maybe you should have noticed its wet!!!

"

Tell that to a blind person

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I was injured during a 'routine' NHS proceedure and in pain for over two years. Still not right now but you try to get them to say 'sorry' or accept it could have been their fault... no chance, and lawyers wont touch it."

Probably because no one was at fault. With clinical negligence you seek expert medical opinion. They retrieve your medical records and go through it, these professionals are consultants.

If a procedure is carried out in a way they and the majority of doctors would do it, then you don't have a claim. Every medical procedure carries some risks and it's explained beforehand.

You'd think by the I'll informed comments lawyers would be throwing money at you, but as you've found, that's not the case.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Miss Tress,,,I could not contact you one on one so Quote "I'm sure if you were exposed to chemicals at work that were killing you you'd be relieved to know your family would be cared for financially after your death etc" He was exposed to chemicals at work, one ingredient not on the data sheet, it took seven years to get a final diagnosis because of this missing data, Formaldehyde also a Biocide that cannot be found on the HSE biocide register. So outside the legal framework, timewise etc. So yes the work has to be done by the claimant and certainly not relieved by the support provided by any legal/medical body.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Can I put in a claim to my employer in 1986 for the attack at work? I had lots of stitches and everything. Which lawyer will handle that one for me?

I do think we are becoming too litigious but I also think it's part of the globalisation of business. Risk management is big business now.

if you got tennis elbow or white finger from grafting for your employer back in the day i'm damn certain after a doc says you have somthing that a old job can cause you could put a claim in for compo,there was always ads on the telly for miners and asbestosis sufferers about 5-10 years ago who got problems later on

the personal injury has to be registered against the employer if they are negligent etc in 3 yrs or the case will fail in law..

the asbestosis issue is somewhat different as its pretty much accepted that people were working in unsafe conditions decades ago and also the effects can lay dormant for decades..

having said that other factors will come in with regards proof of employment, whether the employer still exists..

"

Most claims the time limit is three years, less one day, two years for accidents at sea, no limit on asbestos, as it's usually 30 post exposure the cancer appears and it's 100% terminal.

I've never dealt with a case beginning to end where the claimant was alive when the case settled.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Miss Tress,,,I could not contact you one on one so Quote "I'm sure if you were exposed to chemicals at work that were killing you you'd be relieved to know your family would be cared for financially after your death etc" He was exposed to chemicals at work, one ingredient not on the data sheet, it took seven years to get a final diagnosis because of this missing data, Formaldehyde also a Biocide that cannot be found on the HSE biocide register. So outside the legal framework, timewise etc. So yes the work has to be done by the claimant and certainly not relieved by the support provided by any legal/medical body.

"

Unfortunately that is sometimes the case. I've had clients exposed to chemicals and seriously injured at work outside the UK. They're not covered and they've spent thousands trying to seek compensation in the country of origin.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"I was injured during a 'routine' NHS proceedure and in pain for over two years. Still not right now but you try to get them to say 'sorry' or accept it could have been their fault... no chance, and lawyers wont touch it."

And sometimes a 'sorry' is all people want, just to have someone say 'we messed up' but the NHS seem to have a rule against it. In my case that was all I wanted but all I got was a wall of silence which made me take it further. In fact the Ambulance chasers were worse than useless, they only really want cases that are easy, guaranteed winners.

A chance conversation with a lawyer that specialised in employment law put me in contact with a Med-Neg lawyer who saw it as a challenge and went on to win me some compensation. Personally I would rather not have had the two stays in hospital (1 month at the beginning, 2 weeks at a later date to put things right) and the months of not being able to work or really do anything strenuous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sadly it was in the UK, infact in a Primary School. Might even be the case that the chemical as a biocide did not have European Commission Environment Product Authorisation because it cannot be found on the register. If this was the case then the chemical was illegally on the market 2004-2008.reach-compliance.eu

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"But you don't disagree with any of it because it is all completely factual. Unlike the looney left who lie about everything & everything's "Fatcha's fault innit!"

Can't be bothered to comment on whether it is all completely factual or not. I do feel the need to ask why you felt it was accptable and why you felt the need to use the words hideous and ugly when talking about Cherie Blair?"

His description of Cherish is irrelevant to this thread, but it is true...

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

And Tony B Liar is a good name for His Tonyness

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