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By *inky_couple2020 OP   Couple
9 weeks ago

North West

Why is it that the general societal attitude to mobility scooter users is so bad? I mean, being a manual wheelchair user in public is hard enough but since my hand surgery and temporarily only able to get about on a scooter, I am discovering a whole new set of lows attitude wise (and accessibility wise).

It was a bloke today yelling at me "have you tried walking, you fat fuck", as I waited to cross the road (was scootering towards a retail park), that really kicked me in the gonads.

I get general discrimination and inaccessibility and poor attitudes in my wheelchair but I've hardly ever had overt and deliberate verbal abuse like that (I WAS once called a sp*** whilst en route to school with my daughter).

I'm getting a LOT of staring, much more obviously and what feels like judgment. In the wheelchair, people often radiate a sense of pity. Using the scooter, people seem more judgey.

Why?

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By *rimson_RoseWoman
9 weeks ago

Tamworth

Because they seem to think they have an input into a stranger’s business and because they buy into stereotypes they’ve read in the media.

I’m so sorry you’ve had that happen Mrs KC. They’re vile morons who lost their brains somewhere along the line, but that’s no comfort to you.

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By *uxurybubblesCouple
9 weeks ago

by the sea

People are cunts

Pure and simple they feel that they our better than someone so can be cunts to them with out knowing anything about them.

As for scooters over wheelchairs I think it's the dumb thing of thinking you bought the scooter by choice and a wheelchair is something you have to have if that males sense.

But the simple version is as I stated people are cunts

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By *urry BlokeMan
9 weeks ago

Stalybridge


"Why is it that the general societal attitude to mobility scooter users is so bad? I mean, being a manual wheelchair user in public is hard enough but since my hand surgery and temporarily only able to get about on a scooter, I am discovering a whole new set of lows attitude wise (and accessibility wise).

It was a bloke today yelling at me "have you tried walking, you fat fuck", as I waited to cross the road (was scootering towards a retail park), that really kicked me in the gonads.

I get general discrimination and inaccessibility and poor attitudes in my wheelchair but I've hardly ever had overt and deliberate verbal abuse like that (I WAS once called a sp*** whilst en route to school with my daughter).

I'm getting a LOT of staring, much more obviously and what feels like judgment. In the wheelchair, people often radiate a sense of pity. Using the scooter, people seem more judgey.

Why? "

I think if you are fat and in a chair or scooter, there is an assumption that you're in it cos you're fat as opposed to you being heavier because of the restrictions your disability places on you

So you are facing disability discrimination whilst at the same time being treated differently because of your size

It's normally backed up by a shitty attitude towards others in general

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By *ittlemissTinselTitsCouple
9 weeks ago

Southampton

Oh lovely I'm so sorry people have been fucking vile to you...unfortunately people are ignorant judgemental fucks ...sending hugs xx

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By *inky_couple2020 OP   Couple
9 weeks ago

North West


"People are cunts

Pure and simple they feel that they our better than someone so can be cunts to them with out knowing anything about them.

As for scooters over wheelchairs I think it's the dumb thing of thinking you bought the scooter by choice and a wheelchair is something you have to have if that males sense.

But the simple version is as I stated people are cunts "

I'd much rather not have to use the (borrowed) scooter. It's uncomfortable and much harder to get into/around places.

Currently can't even get back into my own house, nor out and back into the car on my own. I can get out of the house in my manual chair and into the car but then stuck because I can't roll back up the ramp or on any kind of not-flat or not-smooth surface. Can't do carpets at all. I can only get out of the house by controlling the free roll down the ramp and by using my not-chopped hand to slow myself on the windowsill as I go down.

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By *nnCeeWoman
9 weeks ago

East of Eden, West of Hell

What an absolute twonk. I hope he spills something hot in his lap.

People have no respect for anyone else anymore and the Internet age seems to make people think they can say/do whatever they want to.

I'm so sorry xx Sending hugs xx

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By *ichaelsmyMan
9 weeks ago

douglas

my experience as i have a blue badge.

i parked in the blue badge bays, a woman shouted at me for doing so, saying did i know they were disabled bays.

my polite reply yes i did and i have displayed my badge. didnt particularly think anything of it.

then as i walked past her car, heard her explaining that she had parked there and had got a parking ticket (no blue badge).

i couldnt resist.

my comment was that it explained her ignorance and stupidity. also the fine for ignoring the clearly marked bays was £500 so now i understood why she was upset.

then man she was talking nearly killed himself laughing.

although in fairness, my biggest bug bare is the abuse of the blue badges.

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By *inky_couple2020 OP   Couple
9 weeks ago

North West

I get the Blue Badge Police on the regular. Usually middle aged men. Sometimes middle aged women. They shut up yapping once I get into my wheelchair. Mr KC is much better than me at totally ignoring them (he's often first out of the car to fetch said wheelchair and obviously he IS not physically disabled).

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By *oodmessMan
9 weeks ago

yumsville

Get a sticker made with anything you want written on it. They don't cost much

eg.

Fill in the blank: Don't be a ****

I have a scooter, jealous much?

This cost more than your mum

Warning. May contain nuts.

It's not my driving, it's your wonky head.

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By *exySiren01Woman
9 weeks ago

RCT

I have a blue badge and some days I have to use a cane, other days crutches and others none at all. There have been times I have used the mobility scooters in the supermarket as I can't walk very far and the looks and comments I have had off people when I have had to use them is unreal. Generally I'm just lazy according to them...I feel like shouting do you really think I'd choose to use one of these and endure the judgy stares off people!! I now find it less embarrassing to get home delivery and stay at home on the days when I have to use walking aids

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
9 weeks ago

Central

I wonder if it's because a tiny number of people have driven them on roads, like a car?

Life is difficult enough as it is, without causing pain for others, by spreading hatred, etc

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By *agnar73Man
9 weeks ago

glasgow-ish

I’m sorry that happened to you. I don’t understand the need to comment aloud that some people seem to have and it’s always from a point of ignorance

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By *oubleswing2019Man
9 weeks ago

Colchester

Sorry to hear all that KC.

Slipnot had it best with their song "People = Shit"

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Sadly, as long as there are people, there will be shit. Not everywhere or everyone of course.

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You know who you are, and that's what matters.

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By *inky_couple2020 OP   Couple
9 weeks ago

North West


"I wonder if it's because a tiny number of people have driven them on roads, like a car?

Life is difficult enough as it is, without causing pain for others, by spreading hatred, etc"

Yes, I drove my mobility scooter on the road today (residential roads). Why? Because the pavement was so steeply cambered and so full of potholes and lacking in dropped sections, that it felt like my spine was breaking and I was hanging on for dear life due to the angle. Scooting in the road (the cycle path bit) was at least marginally tolerable.

It WAS terrifying, even more so than when I have to take my wheelchair in the road. Why? Because you can't accelerate out of the way and you can't attempt to ping up a kerb out of the way. It's frankly quite frightening and so anyone scooting in the road is likely doing it because there's little other choice. They're not doing it because they think it's fun to hold up traffic behind them.

The scooter I've got has a max speed of 4mph. This means it's legally allowed on the absolutely crap pavements. Some scooters have higher max speeds are are actually illegal to operate on a pavement in any case. They HAVE to be scooted on the road, by law.

What I would say to anyone who gets pissed off with mobility aids existing in their sphere is - give it a try. See what it's like. I guarantee the vast majority of people will be very keen to hand the device back and continue walking or cycling or whatever.

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By *ipstick KissesWoman
9 weeks ago

South Down

Over here in NI, the assumption is strong that mobility scooters = disability benefit fraud, so perhaps that might be part of the reason you've encountered a difference in attitude? Other than the person being a twunt obviously

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By *illan-KillashMan
9 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"Why is it that the general societal attitude to mobility scooter users is so bad? I mean, being a manual wheelchair user in public is hard enough but since my hand surgery and temporarily only able to get about on a scooter, I am discovering a whole new set of lows attitude wise (and accessibility wise).

It was a bloke today yelling at me "have you tried walking, you fat fuck", as I waited to cross the road (was scootering towards a retail park), that really kicked me in the gonads.

I get general discrimination and inaccessibility and poor attitudes in my wheelchair but I've hardly ever had overt and deliberate verbal abuse like that (I WAS once called a sp*** whilst en route to school with my daughter).

I'm getting a LOT of staring, much more obviously and what feels like judgment. In the wheelchair, people often radiate a sense of pity. Using the scooter, people seem more judgey.

Why? "

His mother must be so proud. What a cunt.

The people who know you love and appreciate you.

The cunty opinion of total cunts on the high street is worthless.

I have no other sage words.

4 cunts before 6am is a new record.

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By *tYourPleasure_80Man
9 weeks ago

Newcastle


"Why is it that the general societal attitude to mobility scooter users is so bad? I mean, being a manual wheelchair user in public is hard enough but since my hand surgery and temporarily only able to get about on a scooter, I am discovering a whole new set of lows attitude wise (and accessibility wise).

It was a bloke today yelling at me "have you tried walking, you fat fuck", as I waited to cross the road (was scootering towards a retail park), that really kicked me in the gonads.

I get general discrimination and inaccessibility and poor attitudes in my wheelchair but I've hardly ever had overt and deliberate verbal abuse like that (I WAS once called a sp*** whilst en route to school with my daughter).

I'm getting a LOT of staring, much more obviously and what feels like judgment. In the wheelchair, people often radiate a sense of pity. Using the scooter, people seem more judgey.

Why? "

Some people just cannot help themselves, sorry you've had to endure the dross of society. IMO I have found it's easier for people to criticise and rather than to ask the question "how can I help?".

I don't understand why some find it hard to be kind to they're fellow human.

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
9 weeks ago

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Like people have said I think it's some people with stereotypes in their head, they see most people on scooters being elderly, so wrongly think others that need them are just being lazy.

Same kind of thing as the horrid judgey comments people can receive when their toddler with sen is in a pushchair past the age that the busy bodies deem appropriate.

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By (user no longer on site)
9 weeks ago

Some people seem to have an opinion that anybody on a mobility scooter that isn't elderly or very visibly disabled are using it because they are lazy or they are commiting a level of disability benefit fraud.

There is a reason many disabled toilets have to have signs on that say "Not all disabilities are visible".

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
9 weeks ago

East Sussex

Because 'people' are nasty

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By *ellinever70Woman
9 weeks ago

Ayrshire


"Because 'people' are nasty "

#notallpeople

Some are actually quite nice

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By *ack FrostyMan
9 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

Opinions are like arseholes

Most people have them

It doesn’t mean they are always right or even nice and when you are dealing with the hand you have been dealt then sometimes you just want to shout and scream

Now days I just say “thank you, your unasked for opinion is duly noted, have a nice day”

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By *inky_couple2020 OP   Couple
9 weeks ago

North West


"Over here in NI, the assumption is strong that mobility scooters = disability benefit fraud, so perhaps that might be part of the reason you've encountered a difference in attitude? Other than the person being a twunt obviously "

What is the basis for that association, do you know? It seems odd to me that people would deliberately expose themselves to the kinds of attitude I encounter, willingly and deliberately. I see or know of more people struggling to continue walking (with or without a stick/frame) or not going out, purely because they refuse to use something like a wheelchair or scooter.

People in the disability world would call that "internalised ableism". I used to suffer from it and it's the reason I didn't start using a wheelchair until 2yrs after I should have done.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
9 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

Omg Mrs KC. That’s just horrid. I have no words. I’m so sorry you had to go through that 😞❤️

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By *r John WickMan
9 weeks ago

The Continental

You already know the answer to the question from your experiences.

Some people are cunts.

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By *arkus1812Man
9 weeks ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"Over here in NI, the assumption is strong that mobility scooters = disability benefit fraud, so perhaps that might be part of the reason you've encountered a difference in attitude? Other than the person being a twunt obviously

What is the basis for that association, do you know? It seems odd to me that people would deliberately expose themselves to the kinds of attitude I encounter, willingly and deliberately. I see or know of more people struggling to continue walking (with or without a stick/frame) or not going out, purely because they refuse to use something like a wheelchair or scooter.

People in the disability world would call that "internalised ableism". I used to suffer from it and it's the reason I didn't start using a wheelchair until 2yrs after I should have done. "

I am afraid I suffer from "internalised ableism", my age does not help either.

Pressure from my family to get a mobility scooter gets ignored

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
9 weeks ago

East Sussex


"Over here in NI, the assumption is strong that mobility scooters = disability benefit fraud, so perhaps that might be part of the reason you've encountered a difference in attitude? Other than the person being a twunt obviously

What is the basis for that association, do you know? It seems odd to me that people would deliberately expose themselves to the kinds of attitude I encounter, willingly and deliberately. I see or know of more people struggling to continue walking (with or without a stick/frame) or not going out, purely because they refuse to use something like a wheelchair or scooter.

People in the disability world would call that "internalised ableism". I used to suffer from it and it's the reason I didn't start using a wheelchair until 2yrs after I should have done. "

There's no basis for that association other than a bloke in the pub (or on Facebook) knows someone whose sisters neighbour claims disability benefit fraudulently by using a mobility scooter.

My mum was housebound for years only able to leave if my dad took her in the car because she refused to use a mobility scooter. Once she accepted one she told me she'd got her independence back. My dad is the same he even feels a failure because he needs hearing aids, glasses and false teeth at 97 years of age. I can't help feeling that it's societies attitude to disability that causes this.

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By *ipstick KissesWoman
9 weeks ago

South Down


"Over here in NI, the assumption is strong that mobility scooters = disability benefit fraud, so perhaps that might be part of the reason you've encountered a difference in attitude? Other than the person being a twunt obviously

What is the basis for that association, do you know? It seems odd to me that people would deliberately expose themselves to the kinds of attitude I encounter, willingly and deliberately. I see or know of more people struggling to continue walking (with or without a stick/frame) or not going out, purely because they refuse to use something like a wheelchair or scooter.

People in the disability world would call that "internalised ableism". I used to suffer from it and it's the reason I didn't start using a wheelchair until 2yrs after I should have done.

There's no basis for that association other than a bloke in the pub (or on Facebook) knows someone whose sisters neighbour claims disability benefit fraudulently by using a mobility scooter.

"

This is exactly it

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