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By *entlemanP OP   Man
8 weeks ago

Grantham

Just going to throw this out there. If you add the population of the EU, UK and USA together China has approx 1.8 x the population. (there's a few of them). If you add the amount of coal fired power stations up in the same areas China has approx 6.5 x as many. (there's alot of them too - over 3000 of them).

So next time the government bang on about climate change and green taxes... The only green is going out of your bank and into the governments coffers. Or to put it another way, the UK doesn't have any coal powered power stations any more. But don't worry, your taxes make a big difference to climate change!

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
8 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

So because other countries do nothing we shouldn't? 🤔

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By *agnar73Man
8 weeks ago

glasgow-ish

I usually look for a black one.

Not a fan of private hires.

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By *entlemanP OP   Man
8 weeks ago

Grantham


"So because other countries do nothing we shouldn't? 🤔"

No, however to put it into context it's like trying to use a thimble to bail water out of the titanic. My point is if you actually want true change and not an excuse to revenue raise then tackle the major cause.

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By *entlemanP OP   Man
8 weeks ago

Grantham


"I usually look for a black one.

Not a fan of private hires."

Some people do like black ones but mines a white one lol

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By *teelballsMan
8 weeks ago

central london


"So because other countries do nothing we shouldn't? 🤔"

No. How on earth can you miss the point ?

Read it again.

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By *ongandharderMan
8 weeks ago

Rotherham


"Just going to throw this out there. If you add the population of the EU, UK and USA together China has approx 1.8 x the population. (there's a few of them). If you add the amount of coal fired power stations up in the same areas China has approx 6.5 x as many. (there's alot of them too - over 3000 of them).

So next time the government bang on about climate change and green taxes... The only green is going out of your bank and into the governments coffers. Or to put it another way, the UK doesn't have any coal powered power stations any more. But don't worry, your taxes make a big difference to climate change! "

Agreed we used to be an industrial power house in this country but instead we gave it away to all the slve labour countries

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By *rHotNottsMan
8 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Your post created 2-3g of Co2 and by the end of this thread the servers responsible for a few more drops of water from a melting iceberg.

That crap of Temu ? It’s true cost is probably several thousand pounds and a a few kilo of Co2

The only way the problem is ever going to solved is by making people and corporations pay the real cost for their actions and decisions. People won’t just decide to be good

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By *entlemanP OP   Man
8 weeks ago

Grantham

If you put a couple of ice cubes in a glass and fill it with water to the brim and leave it for the ice cubes to melt, does the glass over flow?

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By *entlemanP OP   Man
8 weeks ago

Grantham

Opps another g of co2 by me

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By *hilloutMan
8 weeks ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

Green taxes are an absolute scam. They lower the standard of living and make production of everything more expensive and uncompetitive. A painful lesson Germany is currently learning as it becomes de-undustrialised.

I'm sure people will feel great about helping the environment when heating their homes costs a fortune and the price of everything they buy becomes prohibitive.

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By *agnar73Man
8 weeks ago

glasgow-ish

Well, it’s progress

Britain first to industrialise with coal leading that and people can moan but if get ahead or catch up on others with the green technology it’s another technology revolution in a way.

Today should be last day of coal powered electricity in UK.

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By *entlemanP OP   Man
8 weeks ago

Grantham


"Green taxes are an absolute scam. They lower the standard of living and make production of everything more expensive and uncompetitive. A painful lesson Germany is currently learning as it becomes de-undustrialised.

I'm sure people will feel great about helping the environment when heating their homes costs a fortune and the price of everything they buy becomes prohibitive. "

Mate lives in Germany and you're absolutely correct. Germany was a power house and it's going down the pan. It's like heat pumps... That need a gas boost as they can't do the job alone. You've hot the nail on the head.

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By *entlemanP OP   Man
8 weeks ago

Grantham


"Well, it’s progress

Britain first to industrialise with coal leading that and people can moan but if get ahead or catch up on others with the green technology it’s another technology revolution in a way.

Today should be last day of coal powered electricity in UK."

Indeed it is the last day of it in the UK.... Still only over 3000 to get rid of in China

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By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

What do you suggest?

Should we pop over to China and close down their power stations?

Or maybe just stop buying shit from China?

Or just point at them loudly while doing whatever we wish? Cos they're way worse than us... allegedly.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
8 weeks ago

walsall


"Just going to throw this out there. If you add the population of the EU, UK and USA together China has approx 1.8 x the population. (there's a few of them). If you add the amount of coal fired power stations up in the same areas China has approx 6.5 x as many. (there's alot of them too - over 3000 of them).

So next time the government bang on about climate change and green taxes... The only green is going out of your bank and into the governments coffers. Or to put it another way, the UK doesn't have any coal powered power stations any more. But don't worry, your taxes make a big difference to climate change! "

This has been common knowledge for a while.

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By *MisschiefxTV/TS
8 weeks ago

London

People in general lack the ability to think abstractly into the future. Because people can't understand things they haven't experienced we're not going to stop climate change but we are going to have to deal with it when it comes.

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By *agnar73Man
8 weeks ago

glasgow-ish


"What do you suggest?

Should we pop over to China and close down their power stations?

Or maybe just stop buying shit from China?

Or just point at them loudly while doing whatever we wish? Cos they're way worse than us... allegedly."

Stopping buying the cheap shite that’s on a certain website/app might help.

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By *2000ManMan
8 weeks ago

Worthing

They push the green agenda as the elite have investments in the industry. Nothing to do with "saving the planet".

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By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago


"They push the green agenda as the elite have investments in the industry. Nothing to do with "saving the planet"."

Wouldn't think they're doing too badly from their investments in oil. Or arms.

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By *MisschiefxTV/TS
8 weeks ago

London


"They push the green agenda as the elite have investments in the industry. Nothing to do with "saving the planet"."

Who is 'they'?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
8 weeks ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Without an environment habitable for all, everything else is pointless. Whatever others do, we need to get the ball rolling as soon as possible.

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By *entlemanP OP   Man
8 weeks ago

Grantham

It's always nice to see the people with their eyes open and switched onto the bullshitery that's before them.... And then there's the sheeple....

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By *ib.Man
8 weeks ago

Hampshire

Even forgetting China for the minute...

Most large EU countries cut their output by just stopping and purchasing coal energy from eastern European countries to try and fiddle their numbers.

Nothing is really helping the matter but it's slow progress.

Everyone needs to throw large (like completely ridiculous) taxes on Chinese goods to start the move away we and they need from heavy industry.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
8 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"So because other countries do nothing we shouldn't? 🤔

No. How on earth can you miss the point ?

Read it again. "

What point did I miss?

How do you propose we enforce any restrictions on China? We have zero control over Chinese government policy.

I'm not arguing against the point that China produces a huge amount of pollution. Just curious how you propose to change that? 🤔

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By *rHotNottsMan
8 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Green taxes are an absolute scam. They lower the standard of living and make production of everything more expensive and uncompetitive. A painful lesson Germany is currently learning as it becomes de-undustrialised.

I'm sure people will feel great about helping the environment when heating their homes costs a fortune and the price of everything they buy becomes prohibitive. "

If it’s done right it’s not about feeling good it’s about changing behaviours.

Paying sportsman millions to wear sneakers to make them ‘cool’ while simultaneously running sweatshops in Indonesia amd polluting the planet and then charging £100 for something that’s costs a dollar or two to make. People don’t feel bad about this , so stick an extra £900 tax on them for the abuse of people, planet and resources and let’s those who still want to be ‘cool’ and can afford them have them.

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By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

Ah 'sheeple'. Always from the mouth of a true independent thinker

Coal has long been the least source of power in this country for many reasons. But you keep fighting the good fight.

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By *winging freyrMan
8 weeks ago

Warwickshire

Bored of hearing the self centred argument.

Few important points

A) no one has ever said we must stop co2 getting into atmosphere, ever. It’s amount reducing the amount and the rate it’s going into atmosphere. So, if Europe and America do there bit and China carry on, the global levels will still be less.

B) with more electric cars and energy firms going green it means the treasury is receiving less money, that gap needs to be replaced to pay for services ect (if the govt spend appropriately of course!)

Basically, if you look beyond your own tiny circle the answers and reasons are there.

If everyone changes 1% of their life to be greener, it’ll make a huge difference.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
8 weeks ago

Central

Have you studied what has been done for greener generation in China OP? Rather than take a static snapshot, what have they been doing and what's in the pipeline?

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By *imon and saffyCouple
8 weeks ago

southampton


"If you put a couple of ice cubes in a glass and fill it with water to the brim and leave it for the ice cubes to melt, does the glass over flow? "

The mistake you're making here is assuming that the ice they're worried about is the stuff that's floating.

The vast majority of the ice is locked up on land at the south pole etc.

If that melts then the water level increases.

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By *lynJMan
8 weeks ago

Morden


"Just going to throw this out there. If you add the population of the EU, UK and USA together China has approx 1.8 x the population. (there's a few of them). If you add the amount of coal fired power stations up in the same areas China has approx 6.5 x as many. (there's alot of them too - over 3000 of them).

So next time the government bang on about climate change and green taxes... The only green is going out of your bank and into the governments coffers. Or to put it another way, the UK doesn't have any coal powered power stations any more. But don't worry, your taxes make a big difference to climate change! "

The UK doesn't have any coal powered power stations from today.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y35qz73n8o

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