FabSwingers.com forum: Minimum Wage increase

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The national minimum wage is to rise by 12p an hour to £6.31 for adults and by 5p to £5.03 for 18-to-20-year-olds from October... Woop Woop

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By *weet DevilMan
over a year ago

dukinfield

at least its a rise !! what about all the peeps who have had bugger all with there wages frozen for years and paying more pension payments

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The national minimum wage is to rise by 12p an hour to £6.31 for adults and by 5p to £5.03 for 18-to-20-year-olds from October... Woop Woop

A 2% rise, it's better than nothing. Personally, I'd like to see the minimum wage set at £7/hour and then rise in line with inflation.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

At least we have a minimum wage, it was denied our population for far too many years, and there are still many in Parliament that would scrap it tomorrow if they could.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not much of a rise 2bh

when considering everything else just went up

2 pint of milk £1.17 p

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes but what about all those that have had the pay frozen or had to take a pay cut. Friend of mine has just had to take a pay cut if 10%

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"Yes but what about all those that have had the pay frozen or had to take a pay cut. Friend of mine has just had to take a pay cut if 10% "

Providing they don't fall under the minimum wage that is the business of an individual company/authority.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"not much of a rise 2bh

when considering everything else just went up

2 pint of milk £1.17 p"

Bloody hell where's that from Harrods? Lol. It's £1 for 4 pints in loads of places like Iceland. Or £1.25 for 4 In the overpriced co-op near me. That's shocking!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes but what about all those that have had the pay frozen or had to take a pay cut. Friend of mine has just had to take a pay cut if 10% "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"not much of a rise 2bh

when considering everything else just went up

2 pint of milk £1.17 p

Bloody hell where's that from Harrods? Lol. It's £1 for 4 pints in loads of places like Iceland. Or £1.25 for 4 In the overpriced co-op near me. That's shocking! "
the local co op

even the loaf is up £1.45

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"not much of a rise 2bh

when considering everything else just went up

2 pint of milk £1.17 p"

You're being ripped off. Milk should be nowhere near that price for two pints.

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By *tomComMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

I do feel though it is the minimum wage that has killed off manufactory in this country.

We do not make many things in this country, as it is cheaper to buy stuff from other countries that do not have a minimum wage.

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By *tomComMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"not much of a rise 2bh

when considering everything else just went up

2 pint of milk £1.17 p

Bloody hell where's that from Harrods? Lol. It's £1 for 4 pints in loads of places like Iceland. Or £1.25 for 4 In the overpriced co-op near me. That's shocking! the local co op

even the loaf is up £1.45"

Question is, will the price of milk and bread now go up more? The cost of employing people in milk production and bakers will now increase.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do feel though it is the minimum wage that has killed off manufactory in this country.

We do not make many things in this country, as it is cheaper to buy stuff from other countries that do not have a minimum wage."

Where they earn £1.20 a DAY for 14 hours work a day.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Since April 1st 2013, the Glasgow Living Wage has been £7.50 per hour. There's a list of the firms which pay that sum on the glasgowlivingwage website.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

America has no minimum wage and when i went for jobs i was being offered 4 dollars an hour....

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By *tomComMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

That is what I mean, you buy the goods that this people make because they are

cheaper.

You could say, well lets not buy these cheap goods. But then would it be fair to those people that are only earning £1.20 a day? This could be the only work that is available to them. To them £1.20 is better the £0 a day..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People complain about the benefit culture and how much it costs and yet the minimum wage is set soo low that it is not enough to live off of and so people have to claim tax credits to be able to afford to live.

Take example Asda - they pay £6.60 an hour. If a woman works 25 hours a week while her kids are at school she earns £165 a week. The government say this is not enough for her and her family to live on so they give her £100 a week tax credits.

Asda makes £billions of pounds a year profits and the government fall further and further into debt

Surely something seriously wrong with that!

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"America has no minimum wage and when i went for jobs i was being offered 4 dollars an hour....

That isn't strictly correct I am afraid, they have State Wide minimum wages

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"America has no minimum wage and when i went for jobs i was being offered 4 dollars an hour....

That isn't strictly correct I am afraid, they have State Wide minimum wages

ok sorry however 4 dollars is not exactly great....

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"America has no minimum wage and when i went for jobs i was being offered 4 dollars an hour....

That isn't strictly correct I am afraid, they have State Wide minimum wages

ok sorry however 4 dollars is not exactly great...."

When was it...and what State?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People complain about the benefit culture and how much it costs and yet the minimum wage is set soo low that it is not enough to live off of and so people have to claim tax credits to be able to afford to live.

Asda makes £billions of pounds a year profits and the government fall further and further into debt

Surely something seriously wrong with that! "

Government cannot insist that a company employs people, so it has to have some sort of safety net so that those who are working are earning enough to live on with the minimum wage plus benefits.

Some would argue that taxing companies higher would force them to spend their money on their staff, but many companies would simply move their affairs offshore whilst continuing to trade in the UK ergo denying the Treasury any UK Corporation tax at all.

I believe it would be a great idea to name and shame these big corps publicly so that their profits are directly hit when people express their disgust with their feet and go elsewhere. Things can be done but not by forcing govt to legislate or tax the companies, as the govt knows there is more to it than a knee-jerk rise in corporation tax. It needs a trend to be set to force companies to take a good look at themselves.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"not much of a rise 2bh

when considering everything else just went up

2 pint of milk £1.17 p

Bloody hell where's that from Harrods? Lol. It's £1 for 4 pints in loads of places like Iceland. Or £1.25 for 4 In the overpriced co-op near me. That's shocking! the local co op

even the loaf is up £1.45"

Yeah bread has shot up in price. Summat to do with the cost of flour production apparently. X

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"America has no minimum wage and when i went for jobs i was being offered 4 dollars an hour....

That isn't strictly correct I am afraid, they have State Wide minimum wages

ok sorry however 4 dollars is not exactly great....

When was it...and what State?"

Texas and about 2007

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By *risky4somesCouple
over a year ago

Near glasgow

Well I think it's about time the minimum wage increased as I work as a carer... Whilst training to be a nurse.... And I only get minimum wage but expected to attend mandatory training in my own time( and yes we have discussed being paid for training to no avail) , pay £59 for my PVG before I can start work, and additional fee for any future ones, plus now have to join a register for carers at my own cost, and attend additional training to keep up with expectations from care commission , relatives etc in providing care for their loved ones...... I love my job but sometimes think I'd be better off in tesco... And not to mention the aggression/ abuse that dementia patients can deliver unintentionally and it's all part of the job..... So I think any small increase is well deserved as most carers are working long hours to make ends meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I think it's about time the minimum wage increased as I work as a carer... Whilst training to be a nurse.... And I only get minimum wage but expected to attend mandatory training in my own time( and yes we have discussed being paid for training to no avail) , pay £59 for my PVG before I can start work, and additional fee for any future ones, plus now have to join a register for carers at my own cost, and attend additional training to keep up with expectations from care commission , relatives etc in providing care for their loved ones...... I love my job but sometimes think I'd be better off in tesco... And not to mention the aggression/ abuse that dementia patients can deliver unintentionally and it's all part of the job..... So I think any small increase is well deserved as most carers are working long hours to make ends meet"

You can get tax relief for work-related expenses you have no choice to pay for. Things like register fees and mandatory contributions you can definitely claim for as Siren claims for her professional fees on her tax returns (she's a PAYE employee, not SE)

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"America has no minimum wage and when i went for jobs i was being offered 4 dollars an hour....

That isn't strictly correct I am afraid, they have State Wide minimum wages

ok sorry however 4 dollars is not exactly great....

When was it...and what State?

Texas and about 2007 "

It's about £4.80 an hour in Texas at the moment, Obama has done a lot of work to get increases through legislation. Still a lot less than over here though, but I suppose other factors influence that.

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By *risky4somesCouple
over a year ago

Near glasgow

I might look into that but still doesn't make it fair that the people society entrusts to look after the vulnerable folk earn less than someone who stacks shelves in asda .... But I still love my job

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"America has no minimum wage and when i went for jobs i was being offered 4 dollars an hour....

That isn't strictly correct I am afraid, they have State Wide minimum wages

ok sorry however 4 dollars is not exactly great....

When was it...and what State?

Texas and about 2007

this was before obama and it was a waitress job where they said most come from tips....we were pcsd back to Germany...

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Waitressing is deemed different in the States, 'tipped labor' has a minimum wage of around $2 an hour but the employer has to ensure that it is brought up to the Federal minimum with tips included....

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Waitressing is deemed different in the States, 'tipped labor' has a minimum wage of around $2 an hour but the employer has to ensure that it is brought up to the Federal minimum with tips included...."

well there you go...lol. We went back to Germany so never took it....

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

"not much of a rise 2bh

when considering everything else just went up

2 pint of milk £1.17 p"

Thats not a PINT of milk....

That 2 litres....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"not much of a rise 2bh

when considering everything else just went up

2 pint of milk £1.17 p

Thats not a PINT of milk....

That 2 litres...."
still is far 2 expensive in my local told the lass wont be buying ny more - n only pay my bills

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By *tomComMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"not much of a rise 2bh

when considering everything else just went up

2 pint of milk £1.17 p

Thats not a PINT of milk....

That 2 litres....still is far 2 expensive in my local told the lass wont be buying ny more - n only pay my bills "

Question is, will the price of milk and bread now go up more? The cost of employing people in milk production and bakers will now increase.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"not much of a rise 2bh

when considering everything else just went up

2 pint of milk £1.17 p

Thats not a PINT of milk....

That 2 litres....still is far 2 expensive in my local told the lass wont be buying ny more - n only pay my bills

Question is, will the price of milk and bread now go up more? The cost of employing people in milk production and bakers will now increase."
they have been increasing

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"not much of a rise 2bh

when considering everything else just went up

2 pint of milk £1.17 p

Thats not a PINT of milk....

That 2 litres....still is far 2 expensive in my local told the lass wont be buying ny more - n only pay my bills

Question is, will the price of milk and bread now go up more? The cost of employing people in milk production and bakers will now increase."

Then it should be inline with the rise in minimum wage, plus any increases in raw products/delivery etc.

We can't simply freeze wages in the hope it won't affect retail prices

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the wage for under 21s is disgusting.

I worked a load of hours for a bar that purposely didn't tell us what the wage was when I was 19.

When I got my first pay packet I was devastated to discover I was being paid £4.90 an hour. Came as such a shock because I'd been earning £5.11 from 16 onwards and this increased regularly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes but what about all those that have had the pay frozen or had to take a pay cut. Friend of mine has just had to take a pay cut if 10%

You mean he CHOSE to take it. Any change to his pay is deemed a breach of his contract of employment and he is entitled to ask who else is being asked to take a pay cut and for it to be a temporary measure with an agreed review date with the intention to reinstating his normal full pay. A company cannot unilaterally cut it's workforce's pay without proving it was necessary to do so. He would have been entitled to statutory redundancy pay if he rejected the pay cut and his firm decided to dispense with his services, or he could have pursued an unfair dismissal claim through the courts."
all the staff had to take the pay cut or things may have turned out worse ie redundancies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think basically the wages we pay are not too bad compared to other counties, I've volunteers from Poland etc and their wages compared to the minimum wage in our country is dire, they'd do anything just to get that minimum wage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes but what about all those that have had the pay frozen or had to take a pay cut. Friend of mine has just had to take a pay cut if 10%

You mean he CHOSE to take it. Any change to his pay is deemed a breach of his contract of employment and he is entitled to ask who else is being asked to take a pay cut and for it to be a temporary measure with an agreed review date with the intention to reinstating his normal full pay. A company cannot unilaterally cut it's workforce's pay without proving it was necessary to do so. He would have been entitled to statutory redundancy pay if he rejected the pay cut and his firm decided to dispense with his services, or he could have pursued an unfair dismissal claim through the courts."
yep that's what I did tell, but like a lot of ppl they accept as they think they have no option, and I also think to many companies are jumping on the band wagon when it comes to asking their work force to take pay cut to help the company, even when the company is doing well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now that the majority of people are paid by BACS how difficult would be to have wage slips electronically transferred to central government for scrutiny that it conforms to minimum wage policy, and for employers found breaking the law a rapid and effective punishment can be meted out to them.

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By *ap AdgeMan
over a year ago

Wirral

indeed

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"The national minimum wage is to rise by 12p an hour to £6.31 for adults and by 5p to £5.03 for 18-to-20-year-olds from October... Woop Woop

A 2% rise, it's better than nothing. Personally, I'd like to see the minimum wage set at £7/hour and then rise in line with inflation."

ive wondered on this.. how are companies supposed to sustain the outlay when there are so many redundanices are due to expenditure. I dont see it being sustainable in the present climate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the wage for under 21s is disgusting.

I worked a load of hours for a bar that purposely didn't tell us what the wage was when I was 19.

When I got my first pay packet I was devastated to discover I was being paid £4.90 an hour. Came as such a shock because I'd been earning £5.11 from 16 onwards and this increased regularly."

Didint you ask what the wage was before you started ? seems a bit daft not asking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The minimum wage is far and away the best thing labour introduced otherwise folk would still on on two quid an hour etc as tories fought it all the way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The national minimum wage is to rise by 12p an hour to £6.31 for adults and by 5p to £5.03 for 18-to-20-year-olds from October... Woop Woop

A 2% rise, it's better than nothing. Personally, I'd like to see the minimum wage set at £7/hour and then rise in line with inflation.

ive wondered on this.. how are companies supposed to sustain the outlay when there are so many redundanices are due to expenditure. I dont see it being sustainable in the present climate"

The alternative is to allow companies to take on staff and pay them a pittance yet reap the reward for their low paid labour. I've said it many times on these forums that if a company cannot survive by meeting it's running costs properly then it is working under a bad business model and doesn't deserve to survive. The directors of these companies will always drive home in nice Jaguars to an equally nice detached house.

I'm all for people setting up businesses and making money, but it should never be at the expense of the people doing the graft.

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By *tomComMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

Well minimum wage cost us our manufactory industry. Cheaper staff in other countries meant it was cheaper to make things in other countries

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

suely they drive jags because they have the foresight of setting up a successful business.. thats beside the point.

Business models too - Im all for equal pay though if a comany connot sustain the wage of its staff then its not going to be open long. Everything will increase from NI payments to business taxes.

It means if the min wage was increase costs would have to be ramped up to cover the expense - which would mean any products Nationally would also end up the same way - resulting in the same situation people are in now only they would on paper be earing more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well minimum wage cost us our manufactory industry. Cheaper staff in other countries meant it was cheaper to make things in other countries"

also the cost of living is cheaper in a lot of these countries, don't know about you but I couldn't live on £1.50 a day

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Well minimum wage cost us our manufactory industry. Cheaper staff in other countries meant it was cheaper to make things in other countries"

my point exactly - by paying people more expose is increased which will mean either closing or moviong the business.

Though the costs would have to be covered somewhere which means an increase in the price of goods - cancelling out any increase

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well minimum wage cost us our manufactory industry. Cheaper staff in other countries meant it was cheaper to make things in other countries"

Manufacturing industry was ruined by the tories and not fixed properly by labour. To blame the minimun wage is ludricous would you say to your employer hey please pay me less as i believe minimum wage maybe be harming the business. I cannot take your post seriously.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I couldnt live on minimum wage, if I was getting that I would really struggle and to be honest I think things like my virgin media and mobile would have to go, so if people struggle on that how do you expect them to live on less?

even now minimum wage is below what is expected for you to live on, that's what tax credits are for, to bump your wages up to a livable amount

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By *tomComMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

The Tory party did not ruin the manufacturing industry. The trade unions and the min wage did... Look at what happened in 1975 for example !

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"The Tory party did not ruin the manufacturing industry. The trade unions and the min wage did... Look at what happened in 1975 for example !

If you honestly believe that our manufacturing industry was ruined by the minimum wage you need a reality check.

The vast majority of people in our major manufacturing industries were earning well above the minimum wage when it was introduced in 1998.....

Think again

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ah ball bag.. cheekily asked my boss if all staff (even though we are all paid over minimum wage) would also get the 12p hike... answer was no. lol

If you dont ask, you don't get lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This country has changed so much in the last 30-40 years that things we enjoy now as run of the day things were unheard of 40 years ago. For instance, we had three TV channels to watch and one licence fee to pay; now we can choose from hundreds of channels but we have a monthly cost for that. Most families 40 years ago were lucky to have one car; now it not rare to find each person over 18 in a household has their own car. Foreign holidays were something only the rich did 40 years ago; now millions of Brits count an annual holiday abroad as an integral part of their lives.

These things all cost money, but to enjoy them one must earn them. It is not the responsibility of government, via the taxpayer, to ensure that everyone has enough money for a foreign holiday, Sky TV and a car. That's down to you, and if you can't afford it then you must better your financial circumstance or go without.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"Well minimum wage cost us our manufactory industry. Cheaper staff in other countries meant it was cheaper to make things in other countries"

I have a reasonably successful, small, fledgling manufacturing business and I pay significantly above the minimum wage.....not all manufacturing is mirrored in China and India.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well minimum wage cost us our manufactory industry. Cheaper staff in other countries meant it was cheaper to make things in other countries

I have a reasonably successful, small, fledgling manufacturing business and I pay significantly above the minimum wage.....not all manufacturing is mirrored in China and India.

I'm assuming you do so because you recognise the value of paying good staff to keep them. High staff turnaround is as damaging to a business as paying them the minimum rate one is legally obliged to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well minimum wage cost us our manufactory industry. Cheaper staff in other countries meant it was cheaper to make things in other countries

I have a reasonably successful, small, fledgling manufacturing business and I pay significantly above the minimum wage.....not all manufacturing is mirrored in China and India.

Well done just shows it can be done but even better you are british company. Folk tend to blame min wage etc when mostly in my experience the management of businesses not as strong as they could be. Its really good to see your post.

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By *tomComMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"Well minimum wage cost us our manufactory industry. Cheaper staff in other countries meant it was cheaper to make things in other countries

I have a reasonably successful, small, fledgling manufacturing business and I pay significantly above the minimum wage.....not all manufacturing is mirrored in China and India.

I am not saying that all manufacturing businesses, just seems since the min wage our manufacturing production has dropped..

Though in defense of the min wage, the biggest drops in manufacturing production was between 1973 and 1979 ..

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

The average factory worker in China now earns around $230 (US) a month....or around £40 a week (UK).

The cost of living in China is also significantly lower than the UK....it is all relevant.

That figure is expected to rise to $400 a month by 2015 due to rising food prices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well minimum wage cost us our manufactory industry. Cheaper staff in other countries meant it was cheaper to make things in other countries

I have a reasonably successful, small, fledgling manufacturing business and I pay significantly above the minimum wage.....not all manufacturing is mirrored in China and India.

I am not saying that all manufacturing businesses, just seems since the min wage our manufacturing production has dropped..

Though in defense of the min wage, the biggest drops in manufacturing production was between 1973 and 1979 ..

That's cos they were on strike for most of that period or working a 3-day week.

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By *tomComMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"The average factory worker in China now earns around $230 (US) a month....or around £40 a week (UK).

The cost of living in China is also significantly lower than the UK....it is all relevant.

That figure is expected to rise to $400 a month by 2015 due to rising food prices."

Does China have a minimum wage? What % of goods we buy are produced in countries that do not have a minimum wage ?

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

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"Well minimum wage cost us our manufactory industry. Cheaper staff in other countries meant it was cheaper to make things in other countries

I have a reasonably successful, small, fledgling manufacturing business and I pay significantly above the minimum wage.....not all manufacturing is mirrored in China and India.

I'm assuming you do so because you recognise the value of paying good staff to keep them. High staff turnaround is as damaging to a business as paying them the minimum rate one is legally obliged to."

Eastern European workers have saved my business to be honest, all but Two are now from Eastern Europe.....they turn up on time, they work hard, they don't go sick as a rule, they love overtime, they don't whinge.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

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"The average factory worker in China now earns around $230 (US) a month....or around £40 a week (UK).

The cost of living in China is also significantly lower than the UK....it is all relevant.

That figure is expected to rise to $400 a month by 2015 due to rising food prices.

Does China have a minimum wage? What % of goods we buy are produced in countries that do not have a minimum wage ?"

China has had a minimum wage since 2014....

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Sorry that was meant to read 2004.....

Haven't got a time machine....

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By *tomComMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"Sorry that was meant to read 2004.....

Haven't got a time machine....

Well you learn something new everyday.. You have not got a time machine.. lol

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over a year ago

still think 12 p is a total joke really could those mp's live on our wage i think not

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By *tomComMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"still think 12 p is a total joke really could those mp's live on our wage i think not "

Could you do an MPs job ? If so get yourself up for election

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"still think 12 p is a total joke really could those mp's live on our wage i think not "

Maybe 12p an hour is all many small businesses could afford as an increase?

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By *tomComMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"still think 12 p is a total joke really could those mp's live on our wage i think not

Maybe 12p an hour is all many small businesses could afford as an increase?

Everyone is going on about big businesses, but people forgets about the small and medium size business that really keep this country running !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"still think 12 p is a total joke really could those mp's live on our wage i think not "

What a pointless analogy. In an ideal world we'd all have the things we want and it wouldn't be a struggle to pay for them, but it isn't a perfect world and people need to stop whining all the bloody time about how much someone else has got and get off their arses and get themselves a decent job that pays enough for them to buy the things they want.

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over a year ago

"still think 12 p is a total joke really could those mp's live on our wage i think not

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not pointless its the truth read other comments and not just the 1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just 1 question I would like to ask, of all you's that have made a comment, how many have their own Business?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Tory party did not ruin the manufacturing industry. The trade unions and the min wage did... Look at what happened in 1975 for example !

The year you were born ????

Minimum wage did not kill British Industry.

Lack of investment did that all on its own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Asda makes £billions of pounds a year profits and the government fall further and further into debt

Surely something seriously wrong with that! "
don't. Think many complain about workers that claim working tax credits, it more about those that don't work and claim

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not had a pay rise in four years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Asda makes £billions of pounds a year profits and the government fall further and further into debt

Surely something seriously wrong with that! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Companies have had their wage bill subsidised for years.

The so called YTS was just free labour for companies, now we have work experiance that does just the same.

Governments pretending to give people work while the companies make record profits.

If wages are to low to live on, should the benefit system prop up mega rich corporations ??????

Wonder how much the bill is for TAX CREDITS

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Companies have had their wage bill subsidised for years.

The so called YTS was just free labour for companies, now we have work experiance that does just the same.

Governments pretending to give people work while the companies make record profits.

If wages are to low to live on, should the benefit system prop up mega rich corporations ??????

Wonder how much the bill is for TAX CREDITS"

I work in retail, as a supplier, i have been saying this for years.

to me its not right that a multibillion pound business can make the profits that they do, and for years on end, and get propped up by the tax payer by the way of tax credits or whatever it was called before that

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over a year ago

The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm on minimum pay and only get on average 16 hours a week, more when someone else is off and needs covered. My earnings for last year were less then £6k

I don't get any benefits

And I live on it.

12p an hour is a lot more then the 3p last year so I'm grateful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Co-op charges more than a supermarket because it's convenient. Don't do your shopping there.

I'm highly qualified, work in a profession and technically on a pay cut because of a pay freeze and increased pension contributions. It's hard for lots of people at the moment.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"The national minimum wage is to rise by 12p an hour to £6.31 for adults and by 5p to £5.03 for 18-to-20-year-olds from October... Woop Woop

Just a shame that other pat rates won't go upas a rresult.

Where I used to work they had agents on 3 pay levels. Dev, OT, AT. Dev were paid minimum wage and neither had enhancements for performing well. When the nationalminimum wage it would only be the dev rate that went up until it became too close to the next rate. Anyone on salary nevergot an increase and so ttheir job was devalued by any increases!!!

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits."

Companies are in business to make money, they have a duty to their shareholders to make every attempt to make profits....or would you rather live in a country where private companies do not exist?

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over a year ago

"The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits.

Companies are in business to make money, they have a duty to their shareholders to make every attempt to make profits....or would you rather live in a country where private companies do not exist?"

and there in lies most of todays benefits problems

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"The national minimum wage is to rise by 12p an hour to £6.31 for adults and by 5p to £5.03 for 18-to-20-year-olds from October... Woop Woop

Just a shame that other pat rates won't go upas a rresult.

Many companies do in fact raise their own basic rate in line with rises in minimum wage, it is true though that the Private Sector have been freezing wages more than ever since 2010.

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By *ethany10Couple
over a year ago

falkirk

"still think 12 p is a total joke really could those mp's live on our wage i think not

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over a year ago

"The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits.

Companies are in business to make money, they have a duty to their shareholders to make every attempt to make profits....or would you rather live in a country where private companies do not exist?"

Prefer to live in one that doesnt have to subsidise private companies wage bills, so they can make millions for their rich share holders.

If they cant afford the wage bill they cant make a profit.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Yeah I worked For a crap company haha

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By *ethany10Couple
over a year ago

falkirk

It's called capitalism

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's called capitalism"

Id call it ripping off the people and the state

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits.

Companies are in business to make money, they have a duty to their shareholders to make every attempt to make profits....or would you rather live in a country where private companies do not exist?

Prefer to live in one that doesnt have to subsidise private companies wage bills, so they can make millions for their rich share holders.

If they cant afford the wage bill they cant make a profit. "

Maybe we should come up with an alternative then?

Like private companies laying off hundreds of thousands more people in order to keep those who don't agree with Personal Tax Credits happy?

MANY jobs in leading private companies are formed in exchange for freedom for company expansion, If for example the government (any government) were to raise corporation tax by say 10%....then the money lost to these companies would result in less expansion....and less new job prospects.

The bottom line is we can't have it every way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The truth is, the government is happy to subsidise wages.

Low wages mean bigger profits.

Bigger profits means more jobs.

More low paid jobs means, less revenue and bigger welfare bill.

Bit self defeating dont you think ???

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over a year ago

"The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits.

Companies are in business to make money, they have a duty to their shareholders to make every attempt to make profits....or would you rather live in a country where private companies do not exist?

Prefer to live in one that doesnt have to subsidise private companies wage bills, so they can make millions for their rich share holders.

If they cant afford the wage bill they cant make a profit.

Maybe we should come up with an alternative then?

Like private companies laying off hundreds of thousands more people in order to keep those who don't agree with Personal Tax Credits happy?

The bottom line is we can't have it every way."

So we should just be happy to let them make these profits, and move the money abroad to avoide paying tax on them as well

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over a year ago

I have my own business and you would be surprised the amount of ppl that think your rich, if only they knew the truth, how hard it is running a small business

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over a year ago

"I have my own business and you would be surprised the amount of ppl that think your rich, if only they knew the truth, how hard it is running a small business "

I hear ya brother lol.. the amount of calls I get from people wanting to sell me a mobile phone package for all my employees, or fleet sales reps contacting me to offer me a better 10-car deal, to agencies trying to get me to employ people - they all sound very dejected when I tell them I'm a business of one.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

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When Germany were driven into a reunification programme they cut the tax take from German companies by 5% for Five years, it meant multi BILLIONS less income for the German government......in exchange for THREE MILLION jobs created in those Five years.

It's a trade off

EVERYTHING is a trade off.....

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over a year ago

"I have my own business and you would be surprised the amount of ppl that think your rich, if only they knew the truth, how hard it is running a small business "

I dont think were talking about small businesses here, i really applude you for doing it

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over a year ago

"I have my own business and you would be surprised the amount of ppl that think your rich, if only they knew the truth, how hard it is running a small business "

Have been there, but its the multi nationals that declare record profits while having the wage bill paid by the state.

Wonder how many people that work in the big supermarkets get TAX CREDITS ???

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits.

Companies are in business to make money, they have a duty to their shareholders to make every attempt to make profits....or would you rather live in a country where private companies do not exist?

Prefer to live in one that doesnt have to subsidise private companies wage bills, so they can make millions for their rich share holders.

If they cant afford the wage bill they cant make a profit.

Maybe we should come up with an alternative then?

Like private companies laying off hundreds of thousands more people in order to keep those who don't agree with Personal Tax Credits happy?

The bottom line is we can't have it every way.

So we should just be happy to let them make these profits, and move the money abroad to avoide paying tax on them as well

The vast majority of leading British companies reinvest in expansion though, you are taking a few examples and making it sound like the norm....

And it isn't the norm

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"The national minimum wage is to rise by 12p an hour to £6.31 for adults and by 5p to £5.03 for 18-to-20-year-olds from October... Woop Woop

no offence... same 1% pay rise as those everywhere else at the mo

the minimum wage, along with benefits has been going up at a higher rate, then the public sector wage rises has been for the past 5 years....

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over a year ago

"The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits.

Companies are in business to make money, they have a duty to their shareholders to make every attempt to make profits....or would you rather live in a country where private companies do not exist?

Prefer to live in one that doesnt have to subsidise private companies wage bills, so they can make millions for their rich share holders.

If they cant afford the wage bill they cant make a profit.

Maybe we should come up with an alternative then?

Like private companies laying off hundreds of thousands more people in order to keep those who don't agree with Personal Tax Credits happy?

The bottom line is we can't have it every way.

So we should just be happy to let them make these profits, and move the money abroad to avoide paying tax on them as well

The vast majority of leading British companies reinvest in expansion though, you are taking a few examples and making it sound like the norm....

And it isn't the norm"

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over a year ago

Major BRITISH companies ?????

Now you are dreaming, most have gone and only very specialist are left.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

".........Have been there, but its the multi nationals that declare record profits while having the wage bill paid by the state.

Wonder how many people that work in the big supermarkets get TAX CREDITS ???"

Quite a few I'd wager.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits.

Companies are in business to make money, they have a duty to their shareholders to make every attempt to make profits....or would you rather live in a country where private companies do not exist?

Prefer to live in one that doesnt have to subsidise private companies wage bills, so they can make millions for their rich share holders.

If they cant afford the wage bill they cant make a profit.

Maybe we should come up with an alternative then?

Like private companies laying off hundreds of thousands more people in order to keep those who don't agree with Personal Tax Credits happy?

The bottom line is we can't have it every way.

So we should just be happy to let them make these profits, and move the money abroad to avoide paying tax on them as well

The vast majority of leading British companies reinvest in expansion though, you are taking a few examples and making it sound like the norm....

And it isn't the norm

Then you should know better than most that the Supermarkets have engaged in a massive expansion programme over the last decade which has resulted in...

(a) Increased sales for their suppliers

(b) Countless construction and building materials jobs

Trouble is, as I have said before on here, some people want it EVERY way.

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over a year ago

"I have my own business and you would be surprised the amount of ppl that think your rich, if only they knew the truth, how hard it is running a small business

I dont think were talking about small businesses here, i really applude you for doing it

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took the gamble 8 years ago next month, would I do it again Yes I would, I wish others instead if winging about who get this and who gets that, take the gamble like I did, yes it's very hard but worth it

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over a year ago

Torquay

".........Have been there, but its the multi nationals that declare record profits while having the wage bill paid by the state.

Wonder how many people that work in the big supermarkets get TAX CREDITS ???

Quite a few I'd wager."

Probably the vast majority.....but if it were not for the Labour party there would not be the safety net of tax credits for millions to rely on.

To assume that wages would have risen sufficiently to match tax credits is foolish

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over a year ago

"The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits.

Companies are in business to make money, they have a duty to their shareholders to make every attempt to make profits....or would you rather live in a country where private companies do not exist?

Prefer to live in one that doesnt have to subsidise private companies wage bills, so they can make millions for their rich share holders.

If they cant afford the wage bill they cant make a profit.

Maybe we should come up with an alternative then?

Like private companies laying off hundreds of thousands more people in order to keep those who don't agree with Personal Tax Credits happy?

The bottom line is we can't have it every way.

So we should just be happy to let them make these profits, and move the money abroad to avoide paying tax on them as well

The vast majority of leading British companies reinvest in expansion though, you are taking a few examples and making it sound like the norm....

And it isn't the norm

Then you should know better than most that the Supermarkets have engaged in a massive expansion programme over the last decade which has resulted in...

(a) Increased sales for their suppliers

(b) Countless construction and building materials jobs

Trouble is, as I have said before on here, some people want it EVERY way."

I do think you need a reallity check

1 - No growth in profits for most suppliers, increased sales yes but at the suppliers expense

2 - Try to see how your figures add up, looking at the unemployment register

3 - All low paid deskilled jobs, subsidised mostly by the tax payer by benfits

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over a year ago

"The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits.

Companies are in business to make money, they have a duty to their shareholders to make every attempt to make profits....or would you rather live in a country where private companies do not exist?

Prefer to live in one that doesnt have to subsidise private companies wage bills, so they can make millions for their rich share holders.

If they cant afford the wage bill they cant make a profit.

Maybe we should come up with an alternative then?

Like private companies laying off hundreds of thousands more people in order to keep those who don't agree with Personal Tax Credits happy?

The bottom line is we can't have it every way.

So we should just be happy to let them make these profits, and move the money abroad to avoide paying tax on them as well

The vast majority of leading British companies reinvest in expansion though, you are taking a few examples and making it sound like the norm....

And it isn't the norm

I actually work for a big food manufacturing company, there only reinvesting the money we pay them to stock and promote our products, yes WE not the supermarkets pay for your BOGOFFS, and for the promotional material around them "
u wife worked for a major company supplying supermarkets, they supped frozen goods that had to have a min 18mth shelf life and if the supermarkets

Had this products left with only 6 month left on the shelf life, the company had to replace them with product with 18 mth shelf life again

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

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3 - All low paid deskilled jobs, subsidised mostly by the tax payer by benfits "

Often in factories/ warehouses funded by government grants.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits.

Companies are in business to make money, they have a duty to their shareholders to make every attempt to make profits....or would you rather live in a country where private companies do not exist?

Prefer to live in one that doesnt have to subsidise private companies wage bills, so they can make millions for their rich share holders.

If they cant afford the wage bill they cant make a profit.

Maybe we should come up with an alternative then?

Like private companies laying off hundreds of thousands more people in order to keep those who don't agree with Personal Tax Credits happy?

The bottom line is we can't have it every way.

So we should just be happy to let them make these profits, and move the money abroad to avoide paying tax on them as well

The vast majority of leading British companies reinvest in expansion though, you are taking a few examples and making it sound like the norm....

And it isn't the norm

Then you should know better than most that the Supermarkets have engaged in a massive expansion programme over the last decade which has resulted in...

(a) Increased sales for their suppliers

(b) Countless construction and building materials jobs

Trouble is, as I have said before on here, some people want it EVERY way.

I do think you need a reallity check

1 - No growth in profits for most suppliers, increased sales yes but at the suppliers expense

2 - Try to see how your figures add up, looking at the unemployment register

3 - All low paid deskilled jobs, subsidised mostly by the tax payer by benfits "

So are you advocating that we abolish Tax Credits?......

Simple question, where do you think that would leave us?

Do you think that abolishing Tax Credits, or stifling growth in Supermarkets, would have a positive effect on your employment as a food supply employee?

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over a year ago

Torquay

"........................ .......

3 - All low paid deskilled jobs, subsidised mostly by the tax payer by benfits

Often in factories/ warehouses funded by government grants."

Give me/us a workable alternative...

Higher Corporation Tax?

Anything?

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over a year ago

".........Have been there, but its the multi nationals that declare record profits while having the wage bill paid by the state.

Wonder how many people that work in the big supermarkets get TAX CREDITS ???

Quite a few I'd wager.

Probably the vast majority.....but if it were not for the Labour party there would not be the safety net of tax credits for millions to rely on.

To assume that wages would have risen sufficiently to match tax credits is foolish"

To assume the state should pay private companies wage bills is even more stupid.

When does it end, when no bugger earns enough to pay tax ??

When 90% of people get tax credits ??

We can carry on as we are and let the big companies take every penny the state gives them, or start again like Germany did.

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over a year ago

"The government should take back what it pays out in tax credits to employees, from those companies that report massive profits.

Companies are in business to make money, they have a duty to their shareholders to make every attempt to make profits....or would you rather live in a country where private companies do not exist?

Prefer to live in one that doesnt have to subsidise private companies wage bills, so they can make millions for their rich share holders.

If they cant afford the wage bill they cant make a profit.

Maybe we should come up with an alternative then?

Like private companies laying off hundreds of thousands more people in order to keep those who don't agree with Personal Tax Credits happy?

The bottom line is we can't have it every way.

So we should just be happy to let them make these profits, and move the money abroad to avoide paying tax on them as well

The vast majority of leading British companies reinvest in expansion though, you are taking a few examples and making it sound like the norm....

And it isn't the norm

Then you should know better than most that the Supermarkets have engaged in a massive expansion programme over the last decade which has resulted in...

(a) Increased sales for their suppliers

(b) Countless construction and building materials jobs

Trouble is, as I have said before on here, some people want it EVERY way.

I do think you need a reallity check

1 - No growth in profits for most suppliers, increased sales yes but at the suppliers expense

2 - Try to see how your figures add up, looking at the unemployment register

3 - All low paid deskilled jobs, subsidised mostly by the tax payer by benfits

So are you advocating that we abolish Tax Credits?......

Simple question, where do you think that would leave us?

Do you think that abolishing Tax Credits, or stifling growth in Supermarkets, would have a positive effect on your employment as a food supply employee?

I've never said anything about getting rid of tax credits, im advocating the supermarkets share there wealth with there employees, as opposed to the state supplementing the cost

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"........................ .......

3 - All low paid deskilled jobs, subsidised mostly by the tax payer by benfits

Often in factories/ warehouses funded by government grants.

Give me/us a workable alternative...

Higher Corporation Tax?

Anything?"

How about companies/ "entrepreneurs" who want the financial benefits fund start-up/ expansion themselves or via venture capital?

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over a year ago

"........................ .......

Give me/us a workable alternative...

Higher Corporation Tax?

Anything?"

How about tax credits paid to employees, are taken back out of the reported profits.

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over a year ago

"........................ .......

Give me/us a workable alternative...

Higher Corporation Tax?

Anything?

How about tax credits paid to employees, are taken back out of the reported profits."

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"........................ .......

Give me/us a workable alternative...

Higher Corporation Tax?

Anything?

How about tax credits paid to employees, are taken back out of the reported profits."

They pay corporation tax already, are you advocating raising corporation tax?

If you are thinking Starbucks you are thinking in the minority of companies, the trouble with alarmist headlines is that it gives people the impression that no companies pay corporation tax.

The likes of Starbucks are in the vast minority.....

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

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absolutely pathetic

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

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"absolutely pathetic

Who?....What?....When?

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over a year ago

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"........................ .......

3 - All low paid deskilled jobs, subsidised mostly by the tax payer by benfits

Often in factories/ warehouses funded by government grants.

Give me/us a workable alternative...

Higher Corporation Tax?

Anything?

How about companies/ "entrepreneurs" who want the financial benefits fund start-up/ expansion themselves or via venture capital?"

The vast majority do....and I think you know that.

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over a year ago

"........................ .......

Give me/us a workable alternative...

Higher Corporation Tax?

Anything?

How about tax credits paid to employees, are taken back out of the reported profits.

They pay corporation tax already, are you advocating raising corporation tax?

If you are thinking Starbucks you are thinking in the minority of companies, the trouble with alarmist headlines is that it gives people the impression that no companies pay corporation tax.

The likes of Starbucks are in the vast minority....."

I dont recall mentioning increasing any tax

If they make record profits, should they not pay their own wage bill ????

Maybe your suggesting nationalising everything.

That way we keep the obscene profits

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

"still think 12 p is a total joke really could those mp's live on our wage i think not

there speaks some one who is lucky enough to have a trade that allowed you to set up your own business,

Many factory workers dont.

so they have to get off their arses and get a better job

As you probably know but chose to ignore the fact that there are 25 people for every vacancy in the NE and this is from the employment agency figs

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over a year ago

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"........................ .......

Give me/us a workable alternative...

Higher Corporation Tax?

Anything?

How about tax credits paid to employees, are taken back out of the reported profits.

They pay corporation tax already, are you advocating raising corporation tax?

If you are thinking Starbucks you are thinking in the minority of companies, the trouble with alarmist headlines is that it gives people the impression that no companies pay corporation tax.

The likes of Starbucks are in the vast minority.....

I dont recall mentioning increasing any tax

If they make record profits, should they not pay their own wage bill ????

Maybe your suggesting nationalising everything.

That way we keep the obscene profits

I don't get where you get this notion that companies are not paying their own wage bill?

The matter of Working Tax Credits is a personal one between individual tax payer and government.....

You earn your wages, you get paid by your employer for the hours you work, your Tax Credits are based on your individual circumstances.

Companies do not set the minimum wage, neither do they have any say in Tax Credits.

I ask you again...are you suggesting we scrap Working Tax Credits?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

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The likes of Starbucks are in the vast minority....."

The sums involved are vast.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"............I ask you again...are you suggesting we scrap Working Tax Credits?

I don't think anyone's suggesting scrapping WTC, just reclaiming it from corporate profits.

Whilst we're at it, we might just look to recover DWP Housing Benefit paid to private renting tenants and on to landlords from the proceeds of the sale of the property via a charge.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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I ask you again...are you suggesting we scrap Working Tax Credits?

Huge multi national companies have their wage bill subsidised by TAX CREDITS.

Keep the credits and lets see how long before only the rich pay any tax.

Then what do you think will happen ????

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By *quirrelMan
over a year ago

East Manchester

When the idea of a minimum wage was first promoted the CBI Vehemently opposed it saying it would cost jobs. it hasnt, subsidies and other benefits means that minimum wage is actually a great deal lower than the living wage which is calculated to be at a level which if paid would mean the workers would recieve enough money so that no benefits could be claimed whatsoever, thus reducing the governments bill for supporting workers at companies too greedy to pay a decent wage.

The govt failed manufacturing in this country because it wanted to strangle the unions hold on an industry that was holding the country to ransom, it wasn't the truth but propaganda used to excuse their actions. Greedy self interested directors made massive errors which resulted in job losses, but, when they got it right they were rewarded with bigger salaries, (how can someone be rewarded for making the right decision but blameless when they get it wrong?)workers wanted a share and a say in the decision making process of their company to secure its future and employment in their communities.

China and India have grown strong due to low labour rates and virtually nil safety and environmental laws (chinas CO2 emissions last year were 20 times higher than australia)so production is cheaper without the rules about toxic waste disposal and air quality and as H&S is non existant so are the future lives of their workers.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

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The likes of Starbucks are in the vast minority.....

The sums involved are vast."

Nowhere nearly vast enough to cover the Tax Credits bill.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"........................ .......

I ask you again...are you suggesting we scrap Working Tax Credits?

Huge multi national companies have their wage bill subsidised by TAX CREDITS.

Keep the credits and lets see how long before only the rich pay any tax.

Then what do you think will happen ????"

The multi nationals are going to pay worker 'J.Bloggs' £7.10 an hour regardless of whether the government give tax credits or not, if the companies pay their regulated corporation tax then why should they then pay a punitive tax on top?....just because they earn decent profits you want to punish them?

They are private companies, they have shareholders to answer to.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Let's nip the 'Living Wage' fairy tales in the bud before we get too carried away....

Let us imagine that in an ideal world EVERY employer (from the largest to the smallest) pays the living wage of £7.50 (or £7.80 in London)

It will only serve one purpose, to impose an unacceptable levy on many thousands of small companies, the £1.31-£1.61 difference in hourly pay will not wipe out the need for Tax Credits for millions.....

The price rises that will pass on to the public will eat all that £1.31-£1.61 up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"America has no minimum wage and when i went for jobs i was being offered 4 dollars an hour....

That isn't strictly correct I am afraid, they have State Wide minimum wages

ok sorry however 4 dollars is not exactly great....

When was it...and what State?

Texas and about 2007 "

its gone up since then, from wiki "The federal government mandates a nationwide minimum wage level of $7.25 per hour"

Thing with minimum wage is it's about equivalence to cost of living. some manufacturing countries may pay the equivalent of £1.20 a day, but if you can feed and house your family on that it is a living wage. if you can't then it isn't the actual number is irrelevant.

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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago

folkestone

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The likes of Starbucks are in the vast minority.....

The sums involved are vast.

Nowhere nearly vast enough to cover the Tax Credits bill.

Tax evasion and avoidance is estimated to be 3 Trillion pounds worldwide. It's something the rich have always done - hidden their wealth.

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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago

folkestone

You have a perfectly good business partnership model with John Lewis. Every employee is a shareholder, so they have the motivation to build the business through a can do customer service.

Contrast with Tesco, where if my local store is anything to go by, there is zero motivation to give a good level of customer service.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the minimum wage is a good thing, I know this sounds like one of those back in my day stories.

My first job was a security officer and the wage was £2.80 an hour, good job I was only 19 and still lived at home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You have a perfectly good business partnership model with John Lewis. Every employee is a shareholder, so they have the motivation to build the business through a can do customer service.

Contrast with Tesco, where if my local store is anything to go by, there is zero motivation to give a good level of customer service. "
strange has Tesco staff also receive shares

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