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"Hello fabbers! I always aim to keep healthy whenever I can and I'm trying intermittent fasting. No food after 8pm or before 12pm but then I eat whatever I want. Anyone here doing similar or done it? Any tips? Xx I'm really enjoying it so far. I feel a lot brighter and focused. " Intermittent Fasting is good but have you considered a water fast, they are brilliant, Mrs x | |||
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"Hello fabbers! I always aim to keep healthy whenever I can and I'm trying intermittent fasting. No food after 8pm or before 12pm but then I eat whatever I want. Anyone here doing similar or done it? Any tips? Xx I'm really enjoying it so far. I feel a lot brighter and focused. Intermittent Fasting is good but have you considered a water fast, they are brilliant, Mrs x" What is this that you speak of? Tell me more! | |||
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 . I had more success with weight loss with doing a 24 fast once a week but it was brutal and didn't really agree with my existing digestive issues as I had issues when I did eat again. It did suppress my appetite even on non-fasting days though. | |||
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"We recently listened to "Ultra Processed People" on an audio book and now we're cutting out ultra processed food. It's a real eye opener if you want to eat healthy food." I feel like this is gonna help a lot too. I am a believer in living life to the max, don't get me wrong, and I love cream cakes and chocolate but cutting that stuff out at night has been a game changer. | |||
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"I do it mostly involuntarily, due to time zone changes, CBA to cook for myself etc… but haven’t seen any benefit really.
I fucking hate the menopause. "Yeah that sucks. Sending you all the love getting through that. X | |||
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"Done it on and off for years, definitely don't eat what you want to. If it's to lose weight then 1500 calories is what I do a day, if it's to maintain then I allow my normal daily calories. Jacket spuds are your friend on this diet. Mr F. " Mmmm! I do like a nice jacket spud!! | |||
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"I've been doing this fairly regularly the past 3-4 months, having seen great results when paired with my weight training. I agree that it can make one feel more focused or alert. It does wonders for slimming down and regulating cortisol / blood sugar levels as well. " This is another reason for doing it too. There's diabetes in the family and I'm 44 now, so need to take action on this little boiling pot. | |||
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"We recently listened to "Ultra Processed People" on an audio book and now we're cutting out ultra processed food. It's a real eye opener if you want to eat healthy food." A lot of us take it for granted never eaten processed food but it’s a real eye opener if you’re not used to it. Have a read of headstrong performance , nutrition & bio hacks that will change how you perform mentally as well as physically  | |||
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"We recently listened to "Ultra Processed People" on an audio book and now we're cutting out ultra processed food. It's a real eye opener if you want to eat healthy food. A lot of us take it for granted never eaten processed food but it’s a real eye opener if you’re not used to it. Have a read of headstrong performance , nutrition & bio hacks that will change how you perform mentally as well as physically "I'll give this a read! | |||
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site." I've lost half a stone since cutting out food after 8pm and before 12pm. My friend has also experienced the same. Surely personal evidence is the best?? | |||
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"I've spent most my life eating like this just because I didn't like to eat until I'd finished work etc.. I only knew it was a thing after seeing a documentary about it a couple of years ago. More recently after some back trouble I've gone to low carb (under 50g per day) and as much protein as I can get.. doing this I've never felt so healthy or strong. Back pain was gone a couple of weeks after switching diet, after about 8 months of agony. Lost a stone in a little over a month and I didn't have much to lose in the first place. " This sounds like the kind of benefits we should be promoting! | |||
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site. I've lost half a stone since cutting out food after 8pm and before 12pm. My friend has also experienced the same. Surely personal evidence is the best?? " If it’s working for you, then why start a thread asking for tips? Just keep doing what’s successful for you already. | |||
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site. I've lost half a stone since cutting out food after 8pm and before 12pm. My friend has also experienced the same. Surely personal evidence is the best?? If it’s working for you, then why start a thread asking for tips? Just keep doing what’s successful for you already. "It's just nice to hear from people who may be doing the same. There may be something I've missed and from what I've read so far, there has been some positive advice. | |||
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"I do this most of the time automatically, now. I started about 12 years ago to get rid of the baby weight, and it really helped clear that sluggish brain fog that I'd been experiencing. I don't calorie count or restrict any food groups, but I do try to eat a balanced diet low in UPF's." What are UPF's? Unidentified Probing Fingers? | |||
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"This is probably the only thing that works for me losing weight. Unfortunately I'm just far too greedy to keep it up for any length of time. " Haha or you just love fooooood! Food rocks. | |||
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"I do this most of the time automatically, now. I started about 12 years ago to get rid of the baby weight, and it really helped clear that sluggish brain fog that I'd been experiencing. I don't calorie count or restrict any food groups, but I do try to eat a balanced diet low in UPF's. What are UPF's? Unidentified Probing Fingers? " It could be
Or it could be ultra processed foods | |||
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"Just eat a healthy diet, fasting is not good for. When your body needs nutrients and your fasting how is this healthy. Just watch what you eat and eat healthy." I still drink water, green tea and coffee during my fast so I'm still getting liquid. | |||
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"I do this most of the time automatically, now. I started about 12 years ago to get rid of the baby weight, and it really helped clear that sluggish brain fog that I'd been experiencing. I don't calorie count or restrict any food groups, but I do try to eat a balanced diet low in UPF's. What are UPF's? Unidentified Probing Fingers? It could be
Or it could be ultra processed foods"That's the one! Haha. Would that be things like frozen pizza, chicken nuggets and pot noodles? | |||
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"I've done 12-8 and it did not really work for me because I still had 3 meals. What is working for me is one meal a day. But you definitely can not eat what you want. And as many have said remove the processed food and sugars and add live cultures and protein. " What wasn't working for you? X | |||
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"I do this most of the time automatically, now. I started about 12 years ago to get rid of the baby weight, and it really helped clear that sluggish brain fog that I'd been experiencing. I don't calorie count or restrict any food groups, but I do try to eat a balanced diet low in UPF's. What are UPF's? Unidentified Probing Fingers? It could be
Or it could be ultra processed foods
That's the one! Haha. Would that be things like frozen pizza, chicken nuggets and pot noodles? "UPF’s are most anything in packaging on a supermarket shelf. From mass produced bread to pot noodles. They all contain emulsifiers, seed oils etc. They’re all made to sell more units rather than benefit your health or fill you up. That’s the simple answer as much as I could to start essay posting. | |||
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"I do this most of the time automatically, now. I started about 12 years ago to get rid of the baby weight, and it really helped clear that sluggish brain fog that I'd been experiencing. I don't calorie count or restrict any food groups, but I do try to eat a balanced diet low in UPF's. What are UPF's? Unidentified Probing Fingers? It could be
Or it could be ultra processed foods
That's the one! Haha. Would that be things like frozen pizza, chicken nuggets and pot noodles?
UPF’s are most anything in packaging on a supermarket shelf. From mass produced bread to pot noodles. They all contain emulsifiers, seed oils etc. They’re all made to sell more units rather than benefit your health or fill you up. That’s the simple answer as much as I could to start essay posting. "Haha I appreciate the insights! | |||
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"Hello fabbers! I always aim to keep healthy whenever I can and I'm trying intermittent fasting. No food after 8pm or before 12pm but then I eat whatever I want. Anyone here doing similar or done it? Any tips? Xx I'm really enjoying it so far. I feel a lot brighter and focused. " I do IF. I have done 16/8 20:4 and typically OMAD. Happy to have a conversation. | |||
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"I lost 2 stone doing it. Eating between 5 and 8pm cut out sugar, eat relatively healthy and drink water, black tea or coffee during the day oh and try todo some exercise too. The weight drops off. It was hard to start with and I've had relapses due to holidays(hard to get back into it) but for me it does work. You'd think you'd be tired more but it's not the case. After a week you feel fine and don't miss the breakfast and lunch. I've trained and completed a triathlon while doing it and felt great tbh. " oh wow that's good feedback! A triathlon?! | |||
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"Lost 4 stone last year by 2 x 36 hour fasts a week eating more fermented food and cutting out sugar and ultra processed foods from my diet" That's a lot! We're you able to maintain it? | |||
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"As a recent diabetic I do this and sometimes eat a bigger lunch around 3or 4 pm and lots of liquid to drink for after 6 Good luck " Thankyou xx | |||
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"I've done 12-8 and it did not really work for me because I still had 3 meals. What is working for me is one meal a day. But you definitely can not eat what you want. And as many have said remove the processed food and sugars and add live cultures and protein. What wasn't working for you? X" Only eating between 12-8 did not work for me. | |||
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"Hello fabbers! I always aim to keep healthy whenever I can and I'm trying intermittent fasting. No food after 8pm or before 12pm but then I eat whatever I want. Anyone here doing similar or done it? Any tips? Xx I do intermittent fasting , usually fast for 20 hrs and eat in a 4 hour period , within the fasting period just drink water , it's quite hard to start but easy after a week or so....works even better if you can cut sugar I'm really enjoying it so far. I feel a lot brighter and focused. " | |||
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"Hello fabbers! I always aim to keep healthy whenever I can and I'm trying intermittent fasting. No food after 8pm or before 12pm but then I eat whatever I want. Anyone here doing similar or done it? Any tips? Xx I do intermittent fasting , usually fast for 20 hrs and eat in a 4 hour period , within the fasting period just drink water , it's quite hard to start but easy after a week or so....works even better if you can cut sugar I'm really enjoying it so far. I feel a lot brighter and focused. " All good! I'm drinking lots of water during my fasting period (and green tea) and black coffee. | |||
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"Hello fabbers! I always aim to keep healthy whenever I can and I'm trying intermittent fasting. No food after 8pm or before 12pm but then I eat whatever I want. Anyone here doing similar or done it? Any tips? Xx I'm really enjoying it so far. I feel a lot brighter and focused. Intermittent Fasting is good but have you considered a water fast, they are brilliant, Mrs x What is this that you speak of? Tell me more! " A Water Fast is exactly as it sounds. You fast, without consuming food but you drink water. You should combine this with certain amounts of salt and other minerals but abstain from eating during this period. You can start doing one for just a few days up to much longer periods. Your body will go in 'Autophagy' which sees it removing dead cells from your body whilst using up the resources left within them. It's brilliant for such things as immune system support, cancer prevention and heart disease prevention. Fasting is a natural state of beings for humans and hunger is normal too. We are not designed to eat three meals a day, every day. We are hunter gatherers by evolution and if we didn't kill or find anything to eat we would go hungry but that's not a bad thing. Eating too much, especially the wrong type of things is a plague on humanity. Mrs x | |||
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"I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog." | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog." A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs. | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs." Well yeah that's the entire point, no carbs | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs. Well yeah that's the entire point, no carbs" Yes but if you’re not eating in a deficit you aren’t losing fat. | |||
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"Hello fabbers! I always aim to keep healthy whenever I can and I'm trying intermittent fasting. No food after 8pm or before 12pm but then I eat whatever I want. Anyone here doing similar or done it? Any tips? Xx I'm really enjoying it so far. I feel a lot brighter and focused. Intermittent Fasting is good but have you considered a water fast, they are brilliant, Mrs x What is this that you speak of? Tell me more! A Water Fast is exactly as it sounds. You fast, without consuming food but you drink water. You should combine this with certain amounts of salt and other minerals but abstain from eating during this period. You can start doing one for just a few days up to much longer periods. Your body will go in 'Autophagy' which sees it removing dead cells from your body whilst using up the resources left within them. It's brilliant for such things as immune system support, cancer prevention and heart disease prevention. Fasting is a natural state of beings for humans and hunger is normal too. We are not designed to eat three meals a day, every day. We are hunter gatherers by evolution and if we didn't kill or find anything to eat we would go hungry but that's not a bad thing. Eating too much, especially the wrong type of things is a plague on humanity. Mrs x" Combine this with a Keto diet when eating and you are supercharging your diet and will see dramatic weight loss and health benefits. My hubby is type 2, he has done this and has lost over 7 stone from his heaviest, reduced his Hb1AC from over 100 to 42 since April this year. His sugars are that good that if he wasn't taking meds he would be in remission and is currently on a reduction plan to come off the meds and be in remission. It is possible to achieve a really healthy lifestyle, you just have to change how you think about eating and your diet. Also when on a Water Fast, hunger stops after about 2 days. You'd not believe how long you can keep this up for. My hubby's done 20 days more than a couple of times and both sons have done over 40 days in a single go. Mrs x | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs." Why is cutting carbs related to water weight. Cutting carbs puts you into ketosis and you are then consuming fat and that's what causes the weight loss. Mrs x | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs. Well yeah that's the entire point, no carbs Yes but if you’re not eating in a deficit you aren’t losing fat. " I'm not counting calories, eat when I want and not dealing with any cravings, hunger or sugar withdrawal. So very much not worrying about calories | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs.Why is cutting carbs related to water weight. Cutting carbs puts you into ketosis and you are then consuming fat and that's what causes the weight loss. Mrs x" I can’t remember the exact science behind it but it has to do with glycogen stores in your muscles which are replenished by carbohydrates. | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs. Well yeah that's the entire point, no carbs" | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs. Well yeah that's the entire point, no carbs Yes but if you’re not eating in a deficit you aren’t losing fat. I'm not counting calories, eat when I want and not dealing with any cravings, hunger or sugar withdrawal. So very much not worrying about calories " I was adding to the point the poster who replied to you made. | |||
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"I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog." I know someone who was doing this, I'd never heard of it before! Not something I'd personally try myself but if it works for you then so be it
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"It’s not the entire point at all. You stated that you don’t have to worry about calories eating a carnivore diet. If you are in a calorie surplus on any diet you will gain weight. The only time you wouldn’t gain weight is if you were burning off the additional calories in the surplus off through exercise. This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs. Well yeah that's the entire point, no carbs" Me personally, on this diet right am not worrying about counting calories, eating as much as I want to and I'm losing weight. I can't make it clearer for you. | |||
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"I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. I know someone who was doing this, I'd never heard of it before! Not something I'd personally try myself but if it works for you then so be it
It's not substantial long term,so how long do you have to stick with it?"I'm going to do it for 3 months, I'm using it to manage sibo as all carbs and fibre currently make me sick. | |||
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"It’s not the entire point at all. You stated that you don’t have to worry about calories eating a carnivore diet. If you are in a calorie surplus on any diet you will gain weight. The only time you wouldn’t gain weight is if you were burning off the additional calories in the surplus off through exercise. This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs. Well yeah that's the entire point, no carbs Me personally, on this diet right am not worrying about counting calories, eating as much as I want to and I'm losing weight. I can't make it clearer for you." | |||
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"You’re not hungry because proteins are complex molecules which the body takes longer to break them down. They keep you fuller for longer. But if you ‘didn’t worry’ about calories and consumed twice your caloric intake in meat every day you gain weight exponentially. I can’t make it any clearer. It’s not the entire point at all. You stated that you don’t have to worry about calories eating a carnivore diet. If you are in a calorie surplus on any diet you will gain weight. The only time you wouldn’t gain weight is if you were burning off the additional calories in the surplus off through exercise. This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs. Well yeah that's the entire point, no carbs Me personally, on this diet right am not worrying about counting calories, eating as much as I want to and I'm losing weight. I can't make it clearer for you." The dots and clues are all there for you to connect them. I believe in you. | |||
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"I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. I know someone who was doing this, I'd never heard of it before! Not something I'd personally try myself but if it works for you then so be it
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"Hello fabbers! I always aim to keep healthy whenever I can and I'm trying intermittent fasting. No food after 8pm or before 12pm but then I eat whatever I want. Anyone here doing similar or done it? Any tips? Xx I'm really enjoying it so far. I feel a lot brighter and focused. Intermittent Fasting is good but have you considered a water fast, they are brilliant, Mrs x What is this that you speak of? Tell me more! A Water Fast is exactly as it sounds. You fast, without consuming food but you drink water. You should combine this with certain amounts of salt and other minerals but abstain from eating during this period. You can start doing one for just a few days up to much longer periods. Your body will go in 'Autophagy' which sees it removing dead cells from your body whilst using up the resources left within them. It's brilliant for such things as immune system support, cancer prevention and heart disease prevention. Fasting is a natural state of beings for humans and hunger is normal too. We are not designed to eat three meals a day, every day. We are hunter gatherers by evolution and if we didn't kill or find anything to eat we would go hungry but that's not a bad thing. Eating too much, especially the wrong type of things is a plague on humanity. Mrs xCombine this with a Keto diet when eating and you are supercharging your diet and will see dramatic weight loss and health benefits. My hubby is type 2, he has done this and has lost over 7 stone from his heaviest, reduced his Hb1AC from over 100 to 42 since April this year. His sugars are that good that if he wasn't taking meds he would be in remission and is currently on a reduction plan to come off the meds and be in remission. It is possible to achieve a really healthy lifestyle, you just have to change how you think about eating and your diet. Also when on a Water Fast, hunger stops after about 2 days. You'd not believe how long you can keep this up for. My hubby's done 20 days more than a couple of times and both sons have done over 40 days in a single go. Mrs x 40 continuous days on just water? "And certain minerals, yes, Mrs x | |||
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"Hello fabbers! I always aim to keep healthy whenever I can and I'm trying intermittent fasting. No food after 8pm or before 12pm but then I eat whatever I want. Anyone here doing similar or done it? Any tips? Xx I'm really enjoying it so far. I feel a lot brighter and focused. Intermittent Fasting is good but have you considered a water fast, they are brilliant, Mrs x What is this that you speak of? Tell me more! A Water Fast is exactly as it sounds. You fast, without consuming food but you drink water. You should combine this with certain amounts of salt and other minerals but abstain from eating during this period. You can start doing one for just a few days up to much longer periods. Your body will go in 'Autophagy' which sees it removing dead cells from your body whilst using up the resources left within them. It's brilliant for such things as immune system support, cancer prevention and heart disease prevention. Fasting is a natural state of beings for humans and hunger is normal too. We are not designed to eat three meals a day, every day. We are hunter gatherers by evolution and if we didn't kill or find anything to eat we would go hungry but that's not a bad thing. Eating too much, especially the wrong type of things is a plague on humanity. Mrs xCombine this with a Keto diet when eating and you are supercharging your diet and will see dramatic weight loss and health benefits. My hubby is type 2, he has done this and has lost over 7 stone from his heaviest, reduced his Hb1AC from over 100 to 42 since April this year. His sugars are that good that if he wasn't taking meds he would be in remission and is currently on a reduction plan to come off the meds and be in remission. It is possible to achieve a really healthy lifestyle, you just have to change how you think about eating and your diet. Also when on a Water Fast, hunger stops after about 2 days. You'd not believe how long you can keep this up for. My hubby's done 20 days more than a couple of times and both sons have done over 40 days in a single go. Mrs x 40 continuous days on just water? And certain minerals, yes,
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs.Why is cutting carbs related to water weight. Cutting carbs puts you into ketosis and you are then consuming fat and that's what causes the weight loss. Mrs x I can’t remember the exact science behind it but it has to do with glycogen stores in your muscles which are replenished by carbohydrates." Glycogen is the sugar made from carbs. Once you remove all glycogen from your muscles you go into ketosis which means you are getting your energy from ketone. You then burn fat, the protein you are consuming stops muscle being lost through this process. You don't need carbs for energy. Mrs x | |||
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"Hello fabbers! I always aim to keep healthy whenever I can and I'm trying intermittent fasting. No food after 8pm or before 12pm but then I eat whatever I want. Anyone here doing similar or done it? Any tips? Xx I'm really enjoying it so far. I feel a lot brighter and focused. Intermittent Fasting is good but have you considered a water fast, they are brilliant, Mrs x What is this that you speak of? Tell me more! A Water Fast is exactly as it sounds. You fast, without consuming food but you drink water. You should combine this with certain amounts of salt and other minerals but abstain from eating during this period. You can start doing one for just a few days up to much longer periods. Your body will go in 'Autophagy' which sees it removing dead cells from your body whilst using up the resources left within them. It's brilliant for such things as immune system support, cancer prevention and heart disease prevention. Fasting is a natural state of beings for humans and hunger is normal too. We are not designed to eat three meals a day, every day. We are hunter gatherers by evolution and if we didn't kill or find anything to eat we would go hungry but that's not a bad thing. Eating too much, especially the wrong type of things is a plague on humanity. Mrs xCombine this with a Keto diet when eating and you are supercharging your diet and will see dramatic weight loss and health benefits. My hubby is type 2, he has done this and has lost over 7 stone from his heaviest, reduced his Hb1AC from over 100 to 42 since April this year. His sugars are that good that if he wasn't taking meds he would be in remission and is currently on a reduction plan to come off the meds and be in remission. It is possible to achieve a really healthy lifestyle, you just have to change how you think about eating and your diet. Also when on a Water Fast, hunger stops after about 2 days. You'd not believe how long you can keep this up for. My hubby's done 20 days more than a couple of times and both sons have done over 40 days in a single go. Mrs x 40 continuous days on just water? And certain minerals, yes,
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"It’s not the entire point at all. You stated that you don’t have to worry about calories eating a carnivore diet. If you are in a calorie surplus on any diet you will gain weight. The only time you wouldn’t gain weight is if you were burning off the additional calories in the surplus off through exercise. This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs. Well yeah that's the entire point, no carbs Me personally, on this diet right am not worrying about counting calories, eating as much as I want to and I'm losing weight. I can't make it clearer for you." The carnivore diet is an extreme keto diet and you won't have to worry about counting calories, Mrs x | |||
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"Recent evidence suggests that intermittent fasting has no benefit on your health. Some people may feel “more focused” or whatever, the claims of the body going on some sort of autophagy mode are pure nonsense. It’s always difficult to distinguish between scientifically proven methods and mambo-jambo new age things, especially when everyone calls it a umbrella term which includes everything from fasting 6 hours to simply avoiding breakfast. I guess you should all stick to healthy eating and less (much less) booze. "Do you have access to this evidence? Mrs x | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs.Why is cutting carbs related to water weight. Cutting carbs puts you into ketosis and you are then consuming fat and that's what causes the weight loss. Mrs x I can’t remember the exact science behind it but it has to do with glycogen stores in your muscles which are replenished by carbohydrates.Glycogen is the sugar made from carbs. Once you remove all glycogen from your muscles you go into ketosis which means you are getting your energy from ketone. You then burn fat, the protein you are consuming stops muscle being lost through this process. You don't need carbs for energy. Mrs x" I’m well aware. I did keto for 6 months but didn’t find it sustainable. I was just explaining where an initial drop in weight would come from by cutting carbs without being in a calorie deficit. | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs.Why is cutting carbs related to water weight. Cutting carbs puts you into ketosis and you are then consuming fat and that's what causes the weight loss. Mrs x I can’t remember the exact science behind it but it has to do with glycogen stores in your muscles which are replenished by carbohydrates.Glycogen is the sugar made from carbs. Once you remove all glycogen from your muscles you go into ketosis which means you are getting your energy from ketone. You then burn fat, the protein you are consuming stops muscle being lost through this process. You don't need carbs for energy. Mrs x I’m well aware. I did keto for 6 months but didn’t find it sustainable. I was just explaining where an initial drop in weight would come from by cutting carbs without being in a calorie deficit." I will also add that keto is awful to do if you are into any form of strength training. My strength plummeted and my muscles were flat all the time. I had no pump after a workout and although people report having more energy I always felt more tired towards the end of a workout. I did lose 2 stone in a relatively short space of time though. | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs.Why is cutting carbs related to water weight. Cutting carbs puts you into ketosis and you are then consuming fat and that's what causes the weight loss. Mrs x I can’t remember the exact science behind it but it has to do with glycogen stores in your muscles which are replenished by carbohydrates.Glycogen is the sugar made from carbs. Once you remove all glycogen from your muscles you go into ketosis which means you are getting your energy from ketone. You then burn fat, the protein you are consuming stops muscle being lost through this process. You don't need carbs for energy. Mrs x I’m well aware. I did keto for 6 months but didn’t find it sustainable. I was just explaining where an initial drop in weight would come from by cutting carbs without being in a calorie deficit." But Keto diets don't require calorie deficits, Mrs x | |||
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"Recent evidence suggests that intermittent fasting has no benefit on your health. Some people may feel “more focused” or whatever, the claims of the body going on some sort of autophagy mode are pure nonsense. It’s always difficult to distinguish between scientifically proven methods and mambo-jambo new age things, especially when everyone calls it a umbrella term which includes everything from fasting 6 hours to simply avoiding breakfast. I guess you should all stick to healthy eating and less (much less) booze. Do you have access to this evidence? Mrs x"Everyone has. As long as you can distinguish between valid scientific papers and nonsense on some dubious lifestyle blog. There you go: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/research-news/16047/#:~:text=In%20a%20yearlong%20study%2C%20participants,who%20ate%20at%20any%20time. | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs.Why is cutting carbs related to water weight. Cutting carbs puts you into ketosis and you are then consuming fat and that's what causes the weight loss. Mrs x I can’t remember the exact science behind it but it has to do with glycogen stores in your muscles which are replenished by carbohydrates.Glycogen is the sugar made from carbs. Once you remove all glycogen from your muscles you go into ketosis which means you are getting your energy from ketone. You then burn fat, the protein you are consuming stops muscle being lost through this process. You don't need carbs for energy. Mrs x I’m well aware. I did keto for 6 months but didn’t find it sustainable. I was just explaining where an initial drop in weight would come from by cutting carbs without being in a calorie deficit.But Keto diets don't require calorie deficits, Mrs x" Yes they do, all weight loss is driven by calorie deficit. The carbohydrate insulin model of weightlosshas been disproven. Studies show when calories are equal, there is no difference in weight loss between high carb, low carb or no carb diets. Insulin driving weight/fat gain is nonsense. | |||
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" More recently after some back trouble I've gone to low carb (under 50g per day) and as much protein as I can get.. doing this I've never felt so healthy or strong. Back pain was gone a couple of weeks after switching diet, after about 8 months of agony. Lost a stone in a little over a month and I didn't have much to lose in the first place. " , I agree with this. I went on a low carb diet from monday to friday a year ago and eat and drink normally at the weekend. I lost two and a half stone in the first three months and have maintained the same weight since. I feel as fit and healthy as i ever have. I dont get hungry between meals and really cut out most ultra processed foods. | |||
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"This is ridiculous. If you eat 3,000 calories of meat a day or 3,000 calories of vegetables a day it’s the same calories. The only thing that differs is the macronutrient content. Saying you don’t have to worry about calories just because you’re eating meat is nonsense. I've been on the carnivore diet for the last 3 weeks and have lost 6 pounds so far. No fasting or worrying about calories, feel amazing too, way less fatigue and brain fog. A lot of the weight loss is water due to cutting carbs. If you ate like this without being in a deficit that initial weight loss would return if you added carbs.Why is cutting carbs related to water weight. Cutting carbs puts you into ketosis and you are then consuming fat and that's what causes the weight loss. Mrs x I can’t remember the exact science behind it but it has to do with glycogen stores in your muscles which are replenished by carbohydrates.Glycogen is the sugar made from carbs. Once you remove all glycogen from your muscles you go into ketosis which means you are getting your energy from ketone. You then burn fat, the protein you are consuming stops muscle being lost through this process. You don't need carbs for energy. Mrs x I’m well aware. I did keto for 6 months but didn’t find it sustainable. I was just explaining where an initial drop in weight would come from by cutting carbs without being in a calorie deficit.But Keto diets don't require calorie deficits, Mrs x" Yes they do. People think they don’t because they seriously overestimate how many calories they’re getting without carbs or haven’t worked out their TDEE. You can’t eat more calories than you burn and still lose weight. | |||
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site." Well there wouldn’t be would there? It doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. If you think spiritual fasting is about self chastisement to really have not understood what it is. The mental and philosophical breakthroughs , new insights , self are essential and massive step changes with tangible lifelong results from multi day fast are all the proof participants need that it works. Same for those who practice intermittent fasting for health and weight management they don’t need your approval. | |||
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site. Well there wouldn’t be would there? It doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. If you think spiritual fasting is about self chastisement to really have not understood what it is. The mental and philosophical breakthroughs , new insights , self are essential and massive step changes with tangible lifelong results from multi day fast are all the proof participants need that it works. Same for those who practice intermittent fasting for health and weight management they don’t need your approval." Hello man, Have a look at the link I posted above. Numerous studies debunking intermittent fasting. Let’s be honest, guys: if it was a valid method it would work for everyone. Instead we have different definitions of intermittent fasting, different diets in between, different ideas on whether to eat cereals or unleash carbmageddon, different result on people with similar diet and background etc. But if you keep it scientific (as should always do for these things) you’ll see that it’s simply non effective. | |||
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"Hello fabbers! I always aim to keep healthy whenever I can and I'm trying intermittent fasting. No food after 8pm or before 12pm but then I eat whatever I want. Anyone here doing similar or done it? Any tips? Xx I'm really enjoying it so far. I feel a lot brighter and focused. " I only eat once a day, been doing it for 2 years now. Don't watch what or how much I eat as long it's in that one meal. | |||
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site. I've lost half a stone since cutting out food after 8pm and before 12pm. My friend has also experienced the same. Surely personal evidence is the best?? " Sure, but the weight loss is really just linked to a calorie deficit. Nothing magical in phasing the consumption. Other than for Foie Gras. | |||
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site. Well there wouldn’t be would there? It doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. If you think spiritual fasting is about self chastisement to really have not understood what it is. The mental and philosophical breakthroughs , new insights , self are essential and massive step changes with tangible lifelong results from multi day fast are all the proof participants need that it works. Same for those who practice intermittent fasting for health and weight management they don’t need your approval. Hello man, Have a look at the link I posted above. Numerous studies debunking intermittent fasting. Let’s be honest, guys: if it was a valid method it would work for everyone. Instead we have different definitions of intermittent fasting, different diets in between, different ideas on whether to eat cereals or unleash carbmageddon, different result on people with similar diet and background etc. But if you keep it scientific (as should always do for these things) you’ll see that it’s simply non effective." Intermittent fasting is simply going into a fasting state, which takes about 12 hours, on an intermittent basis. Of course it works, like you say above it’s simply calorie deficit nothing magic, which will work for *anyone* if they can do it , just like exercise and healthy diet will. Of course if you eat all the pies and cakes in between it won’t work
I’m personally more interested in proper fasting , my body is in good shape , millions of years of evolution have given me everything I need to know what and when to eat to stay healthy, fit and strong. But real fasting is a game changer
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site. Well there wouldn’t be would there? It doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. If you think spiritual fasting is about self chastisement to really have not understood what it is. The mental and philosophical breakthroughs , new insights , self are essential and massive step changes with tangible lifelong results from multi day fast are all the proof participants need that it works. Same for those who practice intermittent fasting for health and weight management they don’t need your approval. Hello man, Have a look at the link I posted above. Numerous studies debunking intermittent fasting. Let’s be honest, guys: if it was a valid method it would work for everyone. Instead we have different definitions of intermittent fasting, different diets in between, different ideas on whether to eat cereals or unleash carbmageddon, different result on people with similar diet and background etc. But if you keep it scientific (as should always do for these things) you’ll see that it’s simply non effective. Intermittent fasting is simply going into a fasting state, which takes about 12 hours, on an intermittent basis. Of course it works, like you say above it’s simply calorie deficit nothing magic, which will work for *anyone* if they can do it , just like exercise and healthy diet will. Of course if you eat all the pies and cakes in between it won’t work
I’m personally more interested in proper fasting , my body is in good shape , millions of years of evolution have given me everything I need to know what and when to eat to stay healthy, fit and strong. But real fasting is a game changer
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site. Well there wouldn’t be would there? It doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. If you think spiritual fasting is about self chastisement to really have not understood what it is. The mental and philosophical breakthroughs , new insights , self are essential and massive step changes with tangible lifelong results from multi day fast are all the proof participants need that it works. Same for those who practice intermittent fasting for health and weight management they don’t need your approval. Hello man, Have a look at the link I posted above. Numerous studies debunking intermittent fasting. Let’s be honest, guys: if it was a valid method it would work for everyone. Instead we have different definitions of intermittent fasting, different diets in between, different ideas on whether to eat cereals or unleash carbmageddon, different result on people with similar diet and background etc. But if you keep it scientific (as should always do for these things) you’ll see that it’s simply non effective. Intermittent fasting is simply going into a fasting state, which takes about 12 hours, on an intermittent basis. Of course it works, like you say above it’s simply calorie deficit nothing magic, which will work for *anyone* if they can do it , just like exercise and healthy diet will. Of course if you eat all the pies and cakes in between it won’t work
I’m personally more interested in proper fasting , my body is in good shape , millions of years of evolution have given me everything I need to know what and when to eat to stay healthy, fit and strong. But real fasting is a game changer
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site. Well there wouldn’t be would there? It doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. If you think spiritual fasting is about self chastisement to really have not understood what it is. The mental and philosophical breakthroughs , new insights , self are essential and massive step changes with tangible lifelong results from multi day fast are all the proof participants need that it works. Same for those who practice intermittent fasting for health and weight management they don’t need your approval. Hello man, Have a look at the link I posted above. Numerous studies debunking intermittent fasting. Let’s be honest, guys: if it was a valid method it would work for everyone. Instead we have different definitions of intermittent fasting, different diets in between, different ideas on whether to eat cereals or unleash carbmageddon, different result on people with similar diet and background etc. But if you keep it scientific (as should always do for these things) you’ll see that it’s simply non effective. Intermittent fasting is simply going into a fasting state, which takes about 12 hours, on an intermittent basis. Of course it works, like you say above it’s simply calorie deficit nothing magic, which will work for *anyone* if they can do it , just like exercise and healthy diet will. Of course if you eat all the pies and cakes in between it won’t work
I’m personally more interested in proper fasting , my body is in good shape , millions of years of evolution have given me everything I need to know what and when to eat to stay healthy, fit and strong. But real fasting is a game changer
Judging by your post, you haven’t read any of the studies I linked."No I haven’t. But I’m guessing whoever wrote them doesn’t have any better ideas , because if they did, it work work on everyone right ? And then they’d be no overweight people…. | |||
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site. Well there wouldn’t be would there? It doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. If you think spiritual fasting is about self chastisement to really have not understood what it is. The mental and philosophical breakthroughs , new insights , self are essential and massive step changes with tangible lifelong results from multi day fast are all the proof participants need that it works. Same for those who practice intermittent fasting for health and weight management they don’t need your approval. Hello man, Have a look at the link I posted above. Numerous studies debunking intermittent fasting. Let’s be honest, guys: if it was a valid method it would work for everyone. Instead we have different definitions of intermittent fasting, different diets in between, different ideas on whether to eat cereals or unleash carbmageddon, different result on people with similar diet and background etc. But if you keep it scientific (as should always do for these things) you’ll see that it’s simply non effective. Intermittent fasting is simply going into a fasting state, which takes about 12 hours, on an intermittent basis. Of course it works, like you say above it’s simply calorie deficit nothing magic, which will work for *anyone* if they can do it , just like exercise and healthy diet will. Of course if you eat all the pies and cakes in between it won’t work
I’m personally more interested in proper fasting , my body is in good shape , millions of years of evolution have given me everything I need to know what and when to eat to stay healthy, fit and strong. But real fasting is a game changer
Judging by your post, you haven’t read any of the studies I linked.
No I haven’t.
But I’m guessing whoever wrote them doesn’t have any better ideas , because if they did, it work work on everyone right ? And then they’d be no overweight people…."So you didn’t read any of the studies I posted, but you feel you can judge them anyway. You are, in your words, “guessing”. Tells me ever I need to know about your opinions, really. Not worth discussing further. | |||
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"Fasting if done right is great and once in routine easy to keep to and weight loss is noticeable, definitely feel better in self to" I'm enjoying it a lot. It's a real life style change. X I feel lighter, more upbeat, not as hungry (weirdly) and have more time somehow lol | |||
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site. Well there wouldn’t be would there? It doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. If you think spiritual fasting is about self chastisement to really have not understood what it is. The mental and philosophical breakthroughs , new insights , self are essential and massive step changes with tangible lifelong results from multi day fast are all the proof participants need that it works. Same for those who practice intermittent fasting for health and weight management they don’t need your approval. Hello man, Have a look at the link I posted above. Numerous studies debunking intermittent fasting. Let’s be honest, guys: if it was a valid method it would work for everyone. Instead we have different definitions of intermittent fasting, different diets in between, different ideas on whether to eat cereals or unleash carbmageddon, different result on people with similar diet and background etc. But if you keep it scientific (as should always do for these things) you’ll see that it’s simply non effective. Intermittent fasting is simply going into a fasting state, which takes about 12 hours, on an intermittent basis. Of course it works, like you say above it’s simply calorie deficit nothing magic, which will work for *anyone* if they can do it , just like exercise and healthy diet will. Of course if you eat all the pies and cakes in between it won’t work
I’m personally more interested in proper fasting , my body is in good shape , millions of years of evolution have given me everything I need to know what and when to eat to stay healthy, fit and strong. But real fasting is a game changer
Judging by your post, you haven’t read any of the studies I linked.
No I haven’t.
But I’m guessing whoever wrote them doesn’t have any better ideas , because if they did, it work work on everyone right ? And then they’d be no overweight people….
So you didn’t read any of the studies I posted, but you feel you can judge them anyway. You are, in your words, “guessing”.
Tells me ever I need to know about your opinions, really. Not worth discussing further. "There’s not really any substitute for experience. Most “studies’ ate just marketing nonsense anyway by someone selling something , usually a book about how to be thin and happy and rich and have a perfect life……. (Spoiler - they lie) Save yourself some time and effort put down the books and actually try it, you’ll change you views when you see the impact it has | |||
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"There is no evidence to suggest fasting works. Any study quoted talks to obesity and associated co-morbidities. The self chastisement that known faiths practise in the name of spiritual cleansing achieve the same, more trips to visit us in A&E or pharmacies. Hypoglycaemia and dehydration. Try eating in moderation for a protracted period, ie establish it as your daily diet. Fasting and fad diets... no evidence to support them at all. If you do try and dispel my claim, please quote peer reviewed journals and not some quack with a web site. Well there wouldn’t be would there? It doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. If you think spiritual fasting is about self chastisement to really have not understood what it is. The mental and philosophical breakthroughs , new insights , self are essential and massive step changes with tangible lifelong results from multi day fast are all the proof participants need that it works. Same for those who practice intermittent fasting for health and weight management they don’t need your approval. Hello man, Have a look at the link I posted above. Numerous studies debunking intermittent fasting. Let’s be honest, guys: if it was a valid method it would work for everyone. Instead we have different definitions of intermittent fasting, different diets in between, different ideas on whether to eat cereals or unleash carbmageddon, different result on people with similar diet and background etc. But if you keep it scientific (as should always do for these things) you’ll see that it’s simply non effective. Intermittent fasting is simply going into a fasting state, which takes about 12 hours, on an intermittent basis. Of course it works, like you say above it’s simply calorie deficit nothing magic, which will work for *anyone* if they can do it , just like exercise and healthy diet will. Of course if you eat all the pies and cakes in between it won’t work
I’m personally more interested in proper fasting , my body is in good shape , millions of years of evolution have given me everything I need to know what and when to eat to stay healthy, fit and strong. But real fasting is a game changer
Judging by your post, you haven’t read any of the studies I linked.
No I haven’t.
But I’m guessing whoever wrote them doesn’t have any better ideas , because if they did, it work work on everyone right ? And then they’d be no overweight people….
So you didn’t read any of the studies I posted, but you feel you can judge them anyway. You are, in your words, “guessing”.
Tells me ever I need to know about your opinions, really. Not worth discussing further.
There’s not really any substitute for experience.
Most “studies’ ate just marketing nonsense anyway by someone selling something , usually a book about how to be thin and happy and rich and have a perfect life……. (Spoiler - they lie)
Save yourself some time and effort put down the books and actually try it, you’ll change you views when you see the impact it has "My dear fella, experience is not a substitute for scientific evidence. In fact, in the ladder of scientific evidence, it’s in the lowest point. But you think you know everything because you tried it once, who am I to stop you? I don’t try to reason to people like you, I merely get my popcorns out and watch Darwin’s theories in action | |||
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