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"This used to be a thing. It was called a community. I grew up in an area of an inner city where it had its own pub, own shops, a surgery, green spaces " Exactly - a lot of them were called 'villages' Incredible concept | |||
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"This used to be a thing. It was called a community. I grew up in an area of an inner city where it had its own pub, own shops, a surgery, green spaces " Yes. I also grew up in such an area, where everything was nearby too | |||
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"When it isnt good is if there is a sinister thought behind like if there is checks that need to made like, you have to scan with a card every time you go out of the city or you have to be back before a certain time, it could be a threat to our freedom as we would be constantly monitored and controlled." ^ This part is 100% made-up nonsense. A dystopian fantasy that nobody has proposed. A conspiracy theory thrown around online by people who are afraid of something they don’t understand. ‘15-minute neighbourhoods’ are just good town planning. Something that fell out of favour in the ’80s and ’90s as our governments tried to push retail development and car travel as drivers of the economy over and above everything else. All based on the capitalist fever dream of everlasting growth magically trickling down and providing for everybody in our society. | |||
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"So the work being done on NEOM/the line looks good , the city is totally carbon free & a Metro down the full 150 mile length , I think the city has a few hundred metres wide so there is no need for cars or any other type of transport everything is solar powered. I think these are definitely the cities of the future for desert areas I’m not sure what they look like in existing urban areas" Hasn't that been scaled back now? | |||
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"You probably have 15min city in the likes of London- everything closeby. It doesn’t work elsewhere though! The trouble is these think tanks are all based in central London and have the same mindset- few travel around the country " Yes, london already have it. I think that some villages also have it too | |||
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"I am a free soul, I don’t want anyone to tell me what to do, where to go, what shop to use, etc. " Quite so! | |||
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"I am a free soul, I don’t want anyone to tell me what to do, where to go, what shop to use, etc. " But nobody is. Aside from the conspiracy theorists. It's not about restricting people, but providing required services at a local level, rather than you needed to make pointless and unnecessary journeys to meet day to day needs. The notion of local communities isn't exactly new. Most cities and large towns wouldn't see that much change. Round here? It takes me half an hour to get to the nearest decent sized supermarket. Not everywhere is suitable for the concept, especially in remote areas. | |||
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"The sooner not using a car for almost every journey is normalised, the better " Start by banning taking kids to school by car- unless you live a couple of miles away...should significantly reduce traffic, travel times and emissions, as clearly demonstrated during commute times in any school holiday. | |||
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"The sooner not using a car for almost every journey is normalised, the better Start by banning taking kids to school by car- unless you live a couple of miles away...should significantly reduce traffic, travel times and emissions, as clearly demonstrated during commute times in any school holiday." And disabled parents and children too? If you'd be so kind. Completely impractical to do anything other than drive my child to school, even it was closer. | |||
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"So the work being done on NEOM/the line looks good , the city is totally carbon free & a Metro down the full 150 mile length , I think the city has a few hundred metres wide so there is no need for cars or any other type of transport everything is solar powered. I think these are definitely the cities of the future for desert areas I’m not sure what they look like in existing urban areas Hasn't that been scaled back now? " Quite significantly, yes. | |||
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"I would say that it could work, if it is like how we want it too, there are both pros and cons of it. Let me explain the good thing first, the good thing is that you have everything nearby and you dont need to travel far distances to get there, within a walking distance, you have the school nearby, the supermarket, the post office, the train station to name few things, we kind of already have it dont we, with many things that are close by, some countries still have this model, like france, austrailia, spain and china, isnt it how it also how it used to be in the country side and still are? When it isnt good is if there is a sinister thought behind like if there is checks that need to made like, you have to scan with a card every time you go out of the city or you have to be back before a certain time, it could be a threat to our freedom as we would be constantly monitored and controlled. What is your view about it, would it be a good idea and do you agree with the examples above? " Freedom is paramount to me so it would never work . | |||
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"I am a free soul, I don’t want anyone to tell me what to do, where to go, what shop to use, etc. " Absolutely this. | |||
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"I am a free soul, I don’t want anyone to tell me what to do, where to go, what shop to use, etc. " Good job that no-one is proposing to do so then. 15 minute Cities are just about having amenities near to you - this idea that you won't be allowed to go elsewhere is just a conspiracy theory. | |||
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"Every time anyone tries to discuss improving anything, it's really a conspiracy to control everyone. Think about it. What's a wheelchair ramp but a way of forcing a wheelchair user to use a certain route? What's free contraception but a way of forcing us not to procreate? Gotta be one step ahead 🙂↕️" Can't be any steps ahead, as a wheelchair user ♿💪🏻 | |||
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"What's free contraception but a way of forcing us not to procreate? " Nothing to do with keeping STI rates down, and saving the NHS a few bob on having to treat the clap? | |||
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"I would say that it could work, if it is like how we want it too, there are both pros and cons of it. Let me explain the good thing first, the good thing is that you have everything nearby and you dont need to travel far distances to get there, within a walking distance, you have the school nearby, the supermarket, the post office, the train station to name few things, we kind of already have it dont we, with many things that are close by, some countries still have this model, like france, austrailia, spain and china, isnt it how it also how it used to be in the country side and still are? When it isnt good is if there is a sinister thought behind like if there is checks that need to made like, you have to scan with a card every time you go out of the city or you have to be back before a certain time, it could be a threat to our freedom as we would be constantly monitored and controlled. What is your view about it, would it be a good idea and do you agree with the examples above? " I lived in the centre of a city didn't need a car. Could walk to pubs and clubs, train to work. Most of the time it was great and saved me money. Sadly moved now. | |||
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"So the work being done on NEOM/the line looks good , the city is totally carbon free & a Metro down the full 150 mile length , I think the city has a few hundred metres wide so there is no need for cars or any other type of transport everything is solar powered. I think these are definitely the cities of the future for desert areas I’m not sure what they look like in existing urban areas Hasn't that been scaled back now? " So they recently broke the silence on this and confirmed not , a long term unprecedented project of modular design Still recruiting very large numbers globally for this and the moneys still being spent at a phenomenal rate | |||
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"So the work being done on NEOM/the line looks good , the city is totally carbon free & a Metro down the full 150 mile length , I think the city has a few hundred metres wide so there is no need for cars or any other type of transport everything is solar powered. I think these are definitely the cities of the future for desert areas I’m not sure what they look like in existing urban areas Hasn't that been scaled back now? So they recently broke the silence on this and confirmed not , a long term unprecedented project of modular design Still recruiting very large numbers globally for this and the moneys still being spent at a phenomenal rate " NEOM was supposed to be a $500 billion project. Its sounds a lot but considering a single bridge over the mersey cost £600 million, $500 billion is not going to buy a lot. | |||
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"So the work being done on NEOM/the line looks good , the city is totally carbon free & a Metro down the full 150 mile length , I think the city has a few hundred metres wide so there is no need for cars or any other type of transport everything is solar powered. I think these are definitely the cities of the future for desert areas I’m not sure what they look like in existing urban areas Hasn't that been scaled back now? So they recently broke the silence on this and confirmed not , a long term unprecedented project of modular design Still recruiting very large numbers globally for this and the moneys still being spent at a phenomenal rate " Yeah, we have some involvement with the education side of it. Can't say much more really. It's definitely been scaled back from the original idea. | |||
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"So the work being done on NEOM/the line looks good , the city is totally carbon free & a Metro down the full 150 mile length , I think the city has a few hundred metres wide so there is no need for cars or any other type of transport everything is solar powered. I think these are definitely the cities of the future for desert areas I’m not sure what they look like in existing urban areas Hasn't that been scaled back now? So they recently broke the silence on this and confirmed not , a long term unprecedented project of modular design Still recruiting very large numbers globally for this and the moneys still being spent at a phenomenal rate " It's an interesting concept that is so challenging to what we expect a city to be like. I'm uncertain I'd like to live that way and also how much pollution its construction could entail. But I'm not its target type of resident. | |||
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"Every time anyone tries to discuss improving anything, it's really a conspiracy to control everyone. Think about it. What's a wheelchair ramp but a way of forcing a wheelchair user to use a certain route? What's free contraception but a way of forcing us not to procreate? Gotta be one step ahead 🙂↕️ Can't be any steps ahead, as a wheelchair user ♿💪🏻" You just need a revolution 😎 | |||
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