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"I have my chosen charities that I give to, and this year I will be raising more than normal for one charity close to my heart by doing a charity event. This evening I took a call from the charity thanking me for my support, and talking about what they do. However this then lead to asking me to donate more money. When I advised I couldn't due to having a limit that I give to charities and the fact I raised a large sum in 2011 and would again this year, the guy then tried ppushing me from monthly to quarterly to 6 monthly. It left me feeling a tad annoyed. So do charities sometimes take things too far? and if they didn't pay outsourcing companies to cold call would they not have more money? " I think they do take things too far and I get very annoyed when they ring and ask me to increase my donation. I guess they do it because it works, the gains must outweigh the cost. On the other side of the coin I was in a charity shop today and a woman was haggling over the price of a very inexpensive item. I dislike that too. | |||
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"I have my chosen charities that I give to, and this year I will be raising more than normal for one charity close to my heart by doing a charity event. This evening I took a call from the charity thanking me for my support, and talking about what they do. However this then lead to asking me to donate more money. When I advised I couldn't due to having a limit that I give to charities and the fact I raised a large sum in 2011 and would again this year, the guy then tried ppushing me from monthly to quarterly to 6 monthly. It left me feeling a tad annoyed. So do charities sometimes take things too far? and if they didn't pay outsourcing companies to cold call would they not have more money? I think they do take things too far and I get very annoyed when they ring and ask me to increase my donation. I guess they do it because it works, the gains must outweigh the cost. On the other side of the coin I was in a charity shop today and a woman was haggling over the price of a very inexpensive item. I dislike that too." I'm a manager of a charity shop I get it all the time. In the end I got a poster made for the till asking for no discount as its taking away from the charity. Happy to knock a fiver off a piece of furniture if there's a scratch etc plus we are the cheapest charity shop around | |||
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"I support small local charities rather than the large nationals. Mainly because I know that my donation is actually going to help rather than fund a conference or salary. Where I used to work we had a lot of conferences, one of which was for a large national cancer charity. They used to spend around a quarter of a million pounds to fund an annual three day, all expenses paid piss up for the regional directors of the charity. Since then I have never donated a penny to this charity, despite them being affiliated to my current employer and having multiple fund raising events at work" the charity i volunteer forcanceledheir annual conferece this year because of the cost | |||
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"I support small local charities rather than the large nationals. Mainly because I know that my donation is actually going to help rather than fund a conference or salary. Where I used to work we had a lot of conferences, one of which was for a large national cancer charity. They used to spend around a quarter of a million pounds to fund an annual three day, all expenses paid piss up for the regional directors of the charity. Since then I have never donated a penny to this charity, despite them being affiliated to my current employer and having multiple fund raising events at work the charity i volunteer forcanceledheir annual conferece this year because of the cost " Good for them | |||
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"basically your money goes to paying cold callers..junk mailouts and chuggers.." not all of it. the call centres are pushed very low o the cost of providing services and are on fact more cost effective than doing it in house at times. legally charities have to disclose what percentage of the donation goes on admin etc | |||
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"Totally Sick fed-up of the multi-national people that are selling a certain magazine.. They only seem to appear at the doors of your the local supermarkets .. near easter / christmas etc.. " is their nationality relevant? | |||
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"I have my chosen charities that I give to, and this year I will be raising more than normal for one charity close to my heart by doing a charity event. This evening I took a call from the charity thanking me for my support, and talking about what they do. However this then lead to asking me to donate more money. When I advised I couldn't due to having a limit that I give to charities and the fact I raised a large sum in 2011 and would again this year, the guy then tried ppushing me from monthly to quarterly to 6 monthly. It left me feeling a tad annoyed. So do charities sometimes take things too far? and if they didn't pay outsourcing companies to cold call would they not have more money? " Which charity? I'm curious as I have ties to the industry. Charity is a funny thing. The reality is if you don't ask you don't get. Fact! Until this thread, how many people were thinking about donating to a worthy cause? I'd say very few. So charity's will always look to their current donors for further support. Some can, some can't. I think it down to the individual personal link to the charity. Some people give for the sake of giving and some have a personal attachment for private reasons. That call with have about a thousand different outcomes basically. | |||
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"Totally Sick fed-up of the multi-national people that are selling a certain magazine.. They only seem to appear at the doors of your the local supermarkets .. near easter / christmas etc.. " If you're talking about The Big Issue the vendors buy the magazine to sell at a profit they aren't asking for a donation they are working to make a living. | |||
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"I have my chosen charities that I give to, and this year I will be raising more than normal for one charity close to my heart by doing a charity event. This evening I took a call from the charity thanking me for my support, and talking about what they do. However this then lead to asking me to donate more money. When I advised I couldn't due to having a limit that I give to charities and the fact I raised a large sum in 2011 and would again this year, the guy then tried ppushing me from monthly to quarterly to 6 monthly. It left me feeling a tad annoyed. So do charities sometimes take things too far? and if they didn't pay outsourcing companies to cold call would they not have more money? Which charity? I'm curious as I have ties to the industry. Charity is a funny thing. The reality is if you don't ask you don't get. Fact! Until this thread, how many people were thinking about donating to a worthy cause? I'd say very few. So charity's will always look to their current donors for further support. Some can, some can't. I think it down to the individual personal link to the charity. Some people give for the sake of giving and some have a personal attachment for private reasons. That call with have about a thousand different outcomes basically. " What am I saying...None of us were thinking about charity. We're on a swinging site for f**k's sake! Lol! | |||
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"I have been stopped many times by chuggers. Only once did I ever sign up for a direct debit. Just altered my name slightly and 2 or three numbers of my bank account. I only did it because he was pissing me off. Most are fine with a refusal, but anyone gets bolshy with me and they will get the same treatment." Why? | |||
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"I have my chosen charities that I give to, and this year I will be raising more than normal for one charity close to my heart by doing a charity event. This evening I took a call from the charity thanking me for my support, and talking about what they do. However this then lead to asking me to donate more money. When I advised I couldn't due to having a limit that I give to charities and the fact I raised a large sum in 2011 and would again this year, the guy then tried ppushing me from monthly to quarterly to 6 monthly. It left me feeling a tad annoyed. So do charities sometimes take things too far? and if they didn't pay outsourcing companies to cold call would they not have more money? " i dont like it when charities try to raise the profiles of immoral companies such as cancer research uk working with tesco. Tesco only interested in their profits and shouldnt have anything to do with cancer. tesco are a food charity. annoys me when asda try to help the community. bollocks. they should stop ripping off their suppliers. they dont care about charity imho. | |||
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"I have been stopped many times by chuggers. Only once did I ever sign up for a direct debit. Just altered my name slightly and 2 or three numbers of my bank account. I only did it because he was pissing me off. Most are fine with a refusal, but anyone gets bolshy with me and they will get the same treatment. Why? " When they get intimidating or insulting, that's when they cross the line. | |||
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"To answer the op's original question, then no, I don't believe they "push it too far", I have a DD set up for Cancer Research and will tell anyone who approaches me in the street. They are only trying to do their job, which is to raise awareness of the particular charity that they are raising money for. A polite "No thanks" is all that is needed. I used to raise money for SCBU on wet and windy streets, not pleasant at all. " A polite "no thanks" usually works. Some of them end up being rude or just irritating. They should not be doing the job if they can't see that their behaviour is to the detriment of the charity. | |||
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"Some of them end up being rude or just irritating. They should not be doing the job if they can't see that their behaviour is to the detriment of the charity." Totally agree with you on that, there are some that like to push the boundaries, but generally most folk tend to be humble. A bloke who sells the Big Issue in Derby even makes up his own songs and sings them to passers by, fair play to the man | |||
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"I have been stopped many times by chuggers. Only once did I ever sign up for a direct debit. Just altered my name slightly and 2 or three numbers of my bank account. I only did it because he was pissing me off. Most are fine with a refusal, but anyone gets bolshy with me and they will get the same treatment. Why? When they get intimidating or insulting, that's when they cross the line. " But there's no point. You waste your time, stop someone else donating and the charity spends the next month trying to process a bogus donation. | |||
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"It is indicative that there are more jobs than ever advertised for charity fundraisers as in the economic climate charities (across the board) are struggling to get funding and particularly for unrestricted funding. I am not defending the approach of pushing those that already give, is the right one but it has become really tight for some charities." | |||
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"Say, if what I give is not good enough, I'll take it somewhere where it is good enough. Charities should only be a charity if a large percent of donations is spent on the cause (more on the cause than admin/salary). Many charities are a lifestyle thing by many... A animal sanctuary on a Mediterranean island, or a nice farm in the UK for example...." i agree. if it were possible to track where every penny of my money went then i would happily give to charity. Its hard trusting charities when there is so much pain and suffering and such a big difference between rich and poor. You shouldnt feel 'guilty' for not giving to charity. | |||
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"I dont trust charities full stop. cancer research uk for instance seems a great charity but when it starts with tesco i get a right headache and it puts me off donating anything to cancer research. tesco is the reason people have cancer in the first place because people cant afford decent food so they have to eat ready meal crap in the first place because farmers are going out of business. i hate it when charities le their way into private enterprises. puts me right off. " why or why is Tesco to blame for Cancer, I have never seen so much crap written by 1 person, so ppl can't afford to eat decent food so they turn to ready meal Bollocks, the main reason lots of ppl turn to ready meals or take away is convenience, and what about all the other supermarkets that sell such meal, ah just because Tesco supports the Race For Life | |||
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"I also think that cancer charities can be dodgy. their marketing tactics turn cancer into an industry rather than a disease. breast cancer for instance is treat like a seperate disease. cancer is cancer and it all needs research and treatment so why the administrative burden of having several different breast cancer charities and projects going on??? wouldnt it be cheaper to just direct-debit and giftaid it without trying to make supermarkets look 'charitable' by having people 'race for life' in daft stupid looking pink fairy costumes?? its not even funny its sick the amount of administration, costs, health and safety and PR this stuff costs. i cant believe tesco are bucking off a deadly disease to improve their image to customers to make them shop at their stores. i think its absolutely sick. i dont mind donating directly to cancer research but when they advertise and rebrand and market so much it puts me off donating becuase i know its not very efficient. " You really hate Tesco don't you | |||
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"I also think that cancer charities can be dodgy. their marketing tactics turn cancer into an industry rather than a disease. breast cancer for instance is treat like a seperate disease. cancer is cancer and it all needs research and treatment so why the administrative burden of having several different breast cancer charities and projects going on??? wouldnt it be cheaper to just direct-debit and giftaid it without trying to make supermarkets look 'charitable' by having people 'race for life' in daft stupid looking pink fairy costumes?? its not even funny its sick the amount of administration, costs, health and safety and PR this stuff costs. i cant believe tesco are bucking off a deadly disease to improve their image to customers to make them shop at their stores. i think its absolutely sick. i dont mind donating directly to cancer research but when they advertise and rebrand and market so much it puts me off donating becuase i know its not very efficient. You really hate Tesco don't you " think he needs to look at all these charities that try and get ppl to run for them in such races as the London marathon and and GNR and then tell you the min amount you must raise and if you fail to raise that amount it's down to you to make up the diff | |||
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"Your right 95% of all cold call and suppermarket venues, were sales reps get paid, to get you to give your money , to there fund, these sales reps earn on ave £50kpa,they are managed by ,managers they earn£75k, plus,they work for a firm that has call centers admin they turn over millions, and only a very small amount of money get to were it is supposed to,i was offerd £100k, a few yrs back to run north west , when i found out were the money went i turned it down, only donate direct ,not to any tv add or any one colectin . even some shops employe staff , look for shops were all staff work for free, your not being push because charitys need more funds , you are being push to reach some ones sale targets, hope this helps ," Your points are very valid....however your average earnings figures are way off, I think when making a valid point about something on here it gets ruined when exaggeration creeps in. | |||
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"I dont trust charities full stop. cancer research uk for instance seems a great charity but when it starts with tesco i get a right headache and it puts me off donating anything to cancer research. tesco is the reason people have cancer in the first place because people cant afford decent food so they have to eat ready meal crap in the first place because farmers are going out of business. i hate it when charities le their way into private enterprises. puts me right off. " Sorry....and trying hard not to be rude here, but your post is frankly ridiculous. | |||
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"Your right 95% of all cold call and suppermarket venues, were sales reps get paid, to get you to give your money , to there fund, these sales reps earn on ave £50kpa,they are managed by ,managers they earn£75k, plus,they work for a firm that has call centers admin they turn over millions, and only a very small amount of money get to were it is supposed to,i was offerd £100k, a few yrs back to run north west , when i found out were the money went i turned it down, only donate direct ,not to any tv add or any one colectin . even some shops employe staff , look for shops were all staff work for free, your not being push because charitys need more funds , you are being push to reach some ones sale targets, hope this helps , Your points are very valid....however your average earnings figures are way off, I think when making a valid point about something on here it gets ruined when exaggeration creeps in." I too feel a lot of things have been exaggerated here. Some people blow the reasons why you shouldn't give out of proportion simply to escape the reasons why you should. Charities are audited heavier than most recognised businesses because they're getting money off good will so every penny has to be accounted for. I think we should leave the tabloids alone, open a book and read about how charities are sustained. | |||
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"I give to the hospices where Dad died and have put on successful events including a ball for the Cystic Fibrosis Trust. I tell chuggers that I prefer to give my money directly to the charity. For every advert on tv only 1% of people watching will pick up the phone. " Most charities now have an in-house street fundraising team so you are giving directly to the charity. If you ask, they have to tell you, by law, whether or not this is the case. | |||
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