FabSwingers.com forum: No matter what you do

By *heitaliandreamer OP Man
17 weeks ago

Northampton

A single man on fab is still penalized for being just a single man. You can write the best profile and put the best intentions out there but a pair of tits get 200 times more attention. Going to club is the only way to be successful for us.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
17 weeks ago

chichester

Just how the dice roll

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
17 weeks ago

East Sussex

Penalised?

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
17 weeks ago

North East Scotland, mostly

Yes, tits get more attention because of the ratios of male to female. But I don’t think that means anyone is penalising you. I regularly meet single men from fab and rarely go to a club. If anything, the decent profiles where men have put an effort in stand out more to me.

Mrs TMN x

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple
17 weeks ago

Lincoln

That's just how supply and demand works. And no, clubs aren't the only way but they are more likely to be successful.

And thirdly, what's the point of this post? 😅

LvM

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By *andynecklaceWoman
17 weeks ago

Someplace

Damn....you need some milk

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By *teve_Life_ModelMan
17 weeks ago

South Leicestershire

It is what it is.

All about supply and demand.

What we single guys are offering is not matched by demand.

If a single guy suddenly becomes part of a couple then they can pick and choose as they see fit.

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By *aTina HeadTurnerWoman
17 weeks ago

Travelling

Stick to the clubs then. Failing that, grow some tits.

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By *erry bull1Man
17 weeks ago

doncaster

Live with it

There’s always some one looking

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By *illy IdolMan
17 weeks ago

Midlands

Grow a pair of tits then. It hasn't hindered my success.

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By *ob.42Man
17 weeks ago

Near Yarmouth

It's tougher yes, but I haven't had too much trouble here. A profile description will never suit everyone's tastes and photos are a matter of opinion too but the best way I've found is have a nice opening message and don't pester.

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By *iftywaysMan
17 weeks ago

wigan

The big issue is the wankers. Those with no intention of meeting just messaging picture collecting and the females inevitably being let down. Finally the females refuse to trust all the males and the go in the ignore bucket. There is a few and far between set of females but messages largely get lost in the noise. Males get 1 message a month, females 1 message a second.

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By *olfandtazCouple
17 weeks ago

Bristol

A half decent profile, respectful messages and proof of a brain in conversation works for us

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By *ohn.Wick.Man
17 weeks ago

The Continental

Never been to a club, never been to a social, but somehow I still manage to attract and meet people.

🤔

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
17 weeks ago

East Sussex

"The big issue is the wankers. Those with no intention of meeting just messaging picture collecting and the females inevitably being let down. Finally the females refuse to trust all the males and the go in the ignore bucket. There is a few and far between set of females but messages largely get lost in the noise. Males get 1 message a month, females 1 message a second. "

If a woman is looking for a single man she will sometimes search out a guy who suits he preferences. The problems are that there is a huge difference in the number of men looking for women and vice versa and that many women prefer not to use filters to block single guys from messaging therefore end up with the whole range of message types.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
17 weeks ago

chichester

"Stick to the clubs then. Failing that, grow some tits. "

I grew tits and am now wall to wall in sticky wickets

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By (user no longer on site)
17 weeks ago

You have 40 verifications so don’t really get what this post is about unless trolling or you are a glass half empty kind of guy . Doing well from what I can see

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By *ealitybitesMan
17 weeks ago

Belfast

"It is what it is.

All about supply and demand.

What we single guys are offering is not matched by demand.

If a single guy suddenly becomes part of a couple then they can pick and choose as they see fit. "

Can they really or is that just an impression?

I'm also part of a fab couple and my experience with that profile is no different to having this one.

Neither profile gets much traffic or messages. The couples profile has been up and running for more than 2 years and we haven't had more than 30-35 messages in total in that time.

I'm just as picky on both profiles which is why I've turned down 90 percent of the offers I've received on this this profile so I don't believe for a second that I'm being penalised.

I've never had any issue starting conversations and some of those have led to social meets and more.

A little like some people tend to blame their age for lack of fab success, I've never once had a conversation about my age on here.

There are always those who look for excuses on here and in complaining too much they are actually turning away others who may actually be interested in chatting to them if they weren't moaning all the time.

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By *he Silver FuxMan
17 weeks ago

Uttoxeter

‘Penalised for being a single male’

No - there are literally thousands of men on Fab who are better looking, bigger dicks, have better profiles, who are located more conveniently than you… and me… and the whiny men that continually post that they don’t get any engagement on Fab.

You are not being penalised, you are just a small fish in a big pond. Going to a club is just making your situation a much smaller pond.. with fewer bigger fish around… The other advantage of clubs, socials, parties is that your personality and physical presence can be seen and realised, something that online profiles rarely provide. Obviously this is isn’t always a positive experience - ‘great profile but undesirable IRL’

Stop moaning - it’s not sexy

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By *ockDoctorMan
17 weeks ago

cheshire and north wales

I understand what your saying but there are several contributing factors to this...one is pure m.f ratio...second is amount of non genuine people..the men pretending to be couples or women etc..the inundation of mail females get ..the over reliance on photo ..not reading profiles...I would suggest if there is a genuine lady she will find you..but the odds are stacked..

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By *issmorganWoman
17 weeks ago

Calderdale innit

Not really op.

The good profiles and messages really stand out in the dross of will fill in later or hi hun messages.

I'm not actively meeting, but I still speak to some sound men, who have put the effort in.

My partner was also a single man when we met here & he hasn't done too badly & I had some great meets with single men.

Yes tits will always get the fabs/messages, but as someone else said that's due to how many men are on fab. Those messages aren't all quality ones anyway op.

If clubs work best for you though, you keep at it.

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By *exxyyDy11Man
17 weeks ago

Darwen

Penalised? I've never felt once I've been penalised.

It is a numbers guy, there is a high ratio of single guys on here. You need to be able to navigate through that and persevere. Eventually you'll find some success on here. Also not the end of the world if you don't get a meet, plenty more stuff you can do on this site.

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By *heitaliandreamer OP Man
17 weeks ago

Northampton

Thank you all for your precious feedback. I will survive

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
17 weeks ago

Stockport

"A single man on fab is still penalized for being just a single man. You can write the best profile and put the best intentions out there but a pair of tits get 200 times more attention. Going to club is the only way to be successful for us."

You think you've got it difficult? Try being a non-op trans woman who likes women. A pair of tits will get you attention, but only from men who want to fuck your arse and whom (mostly, there are exceptions) wouldn't be seen dead with you in public. There are a few women who love trans women, but 99.9999% of them have already found their person, and the 0.00001% live at least 200 miles away.

As a man, you at least have the luxury of the "conventional" routes to meet women with the assurance that a pretty good percentage of those women will be heterosexual and in principle might be attracted to you. For those like me, no such "conventional" routes exist. I try not to winge about it though, instead I try to build on my wit and charm and intelligence and natural beauty (okay I lied about that last one).

My advice is to look at and use what advantages you do have, instead of complaining that the system is stacked against you because you don't have tits...

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By *WB85Man
17 weeks ago

Staffordshire

You have 40 verifications.....you aren't exactly doing bad.

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By *naswingdressWoman
17 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)

🎻

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By (user no longer on site)
17 weeks ago

"Just how the dice roll "

He dumped his I initiative stat.

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By *cflirtyMan
17 weeks ago

Hampshire

"Penalised? "

I think he means Penisised

hehe

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By *lowupdollTV/TS
17 weeks ago

Herts/Beds/Lomdon

"Penalised?

I think he means Penisised

hehe"

This thread just peaked.

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By *r-8-BBCMan
17 weeks ago

LONDON

"Damn....you need some milk"

Eeemotional daamege!

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By *WANDTGCouple
17 weeks ago

Borough of Greenwich

"Damn....you need some milk"

I always love this comeback

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By *inceIlkestonMan
17 weeks ago

Ilkeston

I agree but I perform much better 121 and getting to know someone.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
17 weeks ago

Reading

It's not a penalty just a numbers game. The forum can help you get noticed if you become a regular but still won't guarantee you sex.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
17 weeks ago

Leeds

🍼

( taps on shoulder) Excuse me I think you dropped this

The mr

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By *ellroseWoman
17 weeks ago

Brum

Do you need a hug 🤔

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By *he Silver FuxMan
17 weeks ago

Uttoxeter

"It's not a penalty just a numbers game. The forum can help you get noticed if you become a regular but still won't guarantee you sex."

WAT?!? 😲 What’s the fucking point then? I want some certainty over here. Wasting hours on this forum shit

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By *he Silver FuxMan
17 weeks ago

Uttoxeter

"Thank you all for your precious feedback. I will survive

Italianrealist

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By *carlet SeductionWoman
17 weeks ago

Maidstone

I've got tits but I'm not seeing all these options I'm supposed to have. Am I doing tits wrong??

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By *mf123Man
17 weeks ago

with one foot out the door

Fail

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By *osey WalesMan
17 weeks ago

Surrey

I agree a pair of boobs will always reap more messages than my pic and profile. However, the messages from all the thirsty fellas received by those boobs i dont wish to have.

But now you have come to the realisation with how fab works. Congratulations.

Enjoy and use it for what it is

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By *lfa RomeoMan
17 weeks ago

southeast , Herts, Beds

I've never looked at it had a hiderence, more then just the way it is, supply and demand.

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By *eyond PurityCouple
17 weeks ago

Lincolnshire

If you go along with the narrative that couples and single women have it easier on here then you are part of the problem of undermining yourself.

I was a single guy on here and I done well without going to a club and I went to one social. I put the effort in, was respectful and I never moaned about not getting anywhere or why I couldn’t instantly get what I wanted.

I chatted to people as humans and I was respectful.

I never felt penalised at all.

If you continually look at FAB with disdain then it will never for you as you want it to.

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By *irthandgirthMan
17 weeks ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

Not really. I have been pretty 'successful', although I dislike that terminology. I have been fortunate enough to meet many lovely people from this site. I have only met a couple of people in clubs, normally through friends, so I would refute your assertion it is the 'only way'. I have seen many men in clubs still fail to meet people, mainly due to their inability to partake in basic social norms like striking up conversation before waving their dick in someone's general direction.

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By *AYENCouple
17 weeks ago

Lincolnshire

I thought a lot of the fab guys like to penilised

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By *wiss Army KnifeMan
17 weeks ago

Second star to the right…

"Damn....you need some milk"

I am unfamiliar with this expression but it sounds funny

It has always been tough for single guys on here.

Making friends and going to clubs is probably far easier than cold messaging women when they get more messages than they could possibly reply to.

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By *orningcoffee9Man
17 weeks ago

Manchester

Okay I always had this thought to ask as single male, because even myself i struggle getting a reply back. I understand the ratio of men to women are high and you may just have a better chance of meeting someone in a club. But what if and I know it wouldn't happen but what if all the women on here started to not receive any messages from single males whatsoever. Would you prefer that than receiving hundreds of messages from them?

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By *hil most chillMan
17 weeks ago

South East & Europe

This is simply untrue. I've only ever been to one club, and even that was a pre-arranged first meet. Had plenty of meets as a single male, with women and couples.

Does anyone who writes these whiny posts about "poor single men" think it's a good look? That someone might find it attractive and offer to change your fortunes??

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By *heHookyMonsterMan
4 days ago

Liverpool

"It is what it is.

All about supply and demand.

What we single guys are offering is not matched by demand.

If a single guy suddenly becomes part of a couple then they can pick and choose as they see fit. "

Absolutely spot on!

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
4 days ago

Reading

So how come it works for some men?

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By *riar BelisseWoman
4 days ago

Delightful Bliss

Well yes. Its like going Into a sweet shop and picking one tub, we fancy tasting from the hundreds of tubs on the shelves. Then that one flavour tastes delicious, so we keep going back to that one flavour in the little time we have free.

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By *ad NannaWoman
4 days ago

East London

The ones meeting lots of people aren't being penalised.

If you look through the single male profiles you'll see many of them meeting without going to clubs.

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By *inkywife1981Couple
4 days ago

A town near you

I dont think you need to be a mathematician to appreciate the membership statistics and ratios of this site.

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By *heHookyMonsterMan
4 days ago

Liverpool

You've identified that only clubs work OP. That's a positive! It means you shouldn't need to waste your time with this place.

I joined Fab as part of a couple ten years ago or so - and it was instant success. Returning as a single male I was initially fairly successful, but the Fab world has changed a lot in that time and the swinging world has evolved to a place where even good single guys are routinely ignored.

I found stopping bothering my arse to message on here to be a very positive move, as there's no longer any sense of rejection. Even a great profile, well crafted messages and good photos are likely to get a single fella a perpetually empty inbox, which can be soul-destroying. That being so stop playing the game and stick to clubs where good single guys stand out. I've been really successful consistently having done so - and over a concerted period - and I'm a pretty average Joe looks-wise. A good reputation via clubs and verification can really pay dividends.

Stop bothering to make an effort in an environment where no woman/couple is going to bother either - it's the old adage of 'doing what you've always done and getting what you've always got'. When those opportunities do arise stay classy......and even when they don't, but don't waste your time on people who aren't going to give you a second of their time either. Be a high value man.

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By *ony MannMan
4 days ago

Las Gaviotos, Fuerteventura

I don't feel penalised for being a man but sometimes wish.....

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By *viatrixWoman
4 days ago

Redhill

No one is entitled to anything on here. Man, woman or chimera.

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By *ellinever70Woman
4 days ago

Ayrshire

"It is what it is.

All about supply and demand.

What we single guys are offering is not matched by demand.

If a single guy suddenly becomes part of a couple then they can pick and choose as they see fit.

Absolutely spot on!

I think that's nonsense...there are plenty of couples profiles where one or other of them (quite often the ma) are still whining about not having any 'success '

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By *luebell888Woman
4 days ago

Glasgowish

I know alot of men who do well on fab and none of them have set foot in a club.

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By *ustAnotherMan
4 days ago

wherever I may roam

Grumbling threads on the forum literally always result in 150% more profile hits.

Right?

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By *ildTimes.Man
4 days ago

Colchester/London

Going to a club screams desperation

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By *rumcouple2013Couple
4 days ago

Tamworth

OP understand your frustrations as a single male on here. But believe me it’s isn’t that much easier for couples. We have the same issues attracting single females and other couples. We get the time wasters, picture collectors and fake profiles.

We have tried clubs, social parties and advertising here for private meets. The sene has changed a lot over the last few years, with swinging becoming more prominent with tv shows doing full features about the scene and giving the wrong impression.

You can either carry on and continue with the clubs or give up and walk away. We all have the same options.

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By *heHookyMonsterMan
4 days ago

Liverpool

"Going to a club screams desperation "

Is there any need to be rude and arrogant?

Wouldn't do for us all to be the same surely? Different strokes for different folks.

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By *idnightMouthfulMan
4 days ago

London

There are better places online for a man to get laid - like regular dating and chat sites for example.

Nobody is being penalised - but, in all fairness, the sheer amount of men simping over women is an embarassment.

The way men approach women is a joke, and if there is anyone being 'penalised' then look towards the behaviour of other men for a clue.

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By *ittlemissFlirtyCouple
4 days ago

Southampton

"Going to a club screams desperation "

How?

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By *ustAnotherMan
4 days ago

wherever I may roam

It's the sandwich boards they wear that does it

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By *orthern BeardMan
4 days ago

Preston

Is it just me who thinks it really isn’t that difficult on here?

Maybe I’m just lucky

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By *heHookyMonsterMan
4 days ago

Liverpool

"Is it just me who thinks it really isn’t that difficult on here?

Maybe I’m just lucky "

Think it's horses for courses definitely. Fair play to you if you do well.

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By *heHookyMonsterMan
4 days ago

Liverpool

"There are better places online for a man to get laid - like regular dating and chat sites for example.

Nobody is being penalised - but, in all fairness, the sheer amount of men simping over women is an embarassment.

The way men approach women is a joke, and if there is anyone being 'penalised' then look towards the behaviour of other men for a clue."

That's a pretty good shout!

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By *heHookyMonsterMan
4 days ago

Liverpool

"OP understand your frustrations as a single male on here. But believe me it’s isn’t that much easier for couples. We have the same issues attracting single females and other couples. We get the time wasters, picture collectors and fake profiles.

You can either carry on and continue with the clubs or give up and walk away. We all have the same options. "

Having spoken to a lot of couples I know - and from my initial experiences the issues tend to be different, but equally as daunting on occasion. Establishing interest/attraction is even more difficult when there are four of you. Other issues too.

Complaining on the forums really doesn't help single guys mind you - tends to have the opposite effect I suspect.

I've been incredibly lucky in getting to meet and enjoy the company of those I know.

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By *ubemewetMan
4 days ago

Coventry

I'm married and am getting absolutely nowhere 🙃

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By *izz70Woman
4 days ago

Sheffield

"Yes, tits get more attention because of the ratios of male to female. But I don’t think that means anyone is penalising you. I regularly meet single men from fab and rarely go to a club. If anything, the decent profiles where men have put an effort in stand out more to me.

Mrs TMN x"
well said

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By *ony MannMan
3 days ago

Las Gaviotos, Fuerteventura

"I'm married and am getting absolutely nowhere 🙃 "

But you are single on fab

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By *vaRose43Woman
3 days ago

Forest of Dean

I’d say that’s down to numbers. I only meet single guys and I’m certainly not unique in that so your argument falls down there

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By *ife NinjaMan
3 days ago

Dunfermline

Age, condition, numbers. Be honest with yourself, it's difficult to compete with a 30 odd year old gym toned fella.

So, be selective in who you message. If you don't get a reply, don't get arsey, just move on. Clubs are very useful though

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