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"Spent a load of money on people who are unfit to play and had another series of injuries He seems like a nice guy but nice guys don't win prizes Times up and too many excuses The latest I'm not Harry Potter bollocks " I mean... Two trophies in two years isn't too bad. Granted, it's not the big trophies but still. | |||
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"Inherited a dreadful squad, made worse by the list of sick notes. Unable to attract top quality talent to improve the squad further, due to lack of elite competition. Poor bloke’s banging his head against a brick wall. At least that’s how I’m seeing it as an outsider. " He's spent in excess of £600 million.. Radcliffe sat there with his head in his hands as Ten Hag stood there looking like he really didn't have a clue says a lot.. | |||
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"Half the problem at united is they cycle through different managers, with different tactical approaches. Then they end up with a mismatch of players, most of whom have no idea if they will be playing there next season." I would've argued that in his first and second season but there are a good number of players who are his and some of which aren't good enough. Granted, a good number of the signings were from the lack of foresight from the previous board but I really thought we would be better set up tactically by now... | |||
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"United's biggest problem is not the players or the manager, it's the fans (and the ex-players) who must be the most disloyal in the league. Go on any forum, and you'll find masses of United fans constantly slagging off their own team. Give the team some support and they might actually do quite well. Granted they're still going to get occasionally thrashed by the elite teams, but in time they could get back to the top. " If you think the fans are the biggest problem then you don’t understand football. | |||
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"Can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear , as professional players go Utd are absolutely terrible & that's not today or yesterday, too much money, arrogant out , strut around like it's ok to do so , sad thing is even if they play absolute rubbish they still get paid whereas in an ordinary job they'd be sacked if they worked like they do when they're on the pitch.⚽" Perhaps not but he has spent half a BILLION quid in the last couple of years so he’s the one who has been buying the sow’s ears. | |||
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"He's a poor manager! Not a clue what he's doing! You look at Villa! Great manger, got a plan and in the Champions League. When they had Stevie G (poor manager) relegation zone!" So why couldn't Emery do it at Arsenal? Sometimes, it's not the manager but the club itself | |||
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"They tried to find a new manager during the summer but no body wanted the job so they had no option but to stick with him..." I don't think the options were great either tbf. The names being thrown around were Poch (not exactly inspired), Tuchel (falls out with everyone), and Southgate (kill me). | |||
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"He's a poor manager! Not a clue what he's doing! You look at Villa! Great manger, got a plan and in the Champions League. When they had Stevie G (poor manager) relegation zone! So why couldn't Emery do it at Arsenal? Sometimes, it's not the manager but the club itself" I owe my Arsenal season ticket to Emery, because the football and environment was so bad most people could not wait to give their season tickets back 😂😂 The job was too big for him and the style of football was so clumbersome and drab he never endeared himself to the fan base. United need a cultural reset on and off the field. They need to decide what they want to do with Maguire, Casemiro, Rashford, Sancho, Anthony etc and either sell them for peanuts, banish them to the u23s or terminate their contracts. But they also need to engage the fans and bring through 2-3 new academy prospects that the fans can get behind during the reset. This was the same for us when Saka and Smith Rowe came through and a big part as to why Arsenal fans were so sad to see ESR leave…. He gave us hope when we had none. | |||
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"I owe my Arsenal season ticket to Emery, because the football and environment was so bad most people could not wait to give their season tickets back 😂😂 The job was too big for him and the style of football was so clumbersome and drab he never endeared himself to the fan base. United need a cultural reset on and off the field. They need to decide what they want to do with Maguire, Casemiro, Rashford, Sancho, Anthony etc and either sell them for peanuts, banish them to the u23s or terminate their contracts. But they also need to engage the fans and bring through 2-3 new academy prospects that the fans can get behind during the reset. This was the same for us when Saka and Smith Rowe came through and a big part as to why Arsenal fans were so sad to see ESR leave…. He gave us hope when we had none." I think you've got it spot on really and hoping with new people behind the scenes, we can build to that. For the first time in a while, we've had a window where we've had good outgoings in Greenwood, Wan Bissaka, and McTominay. But it takes more than one window to reset a culture. I think Ten Hag is a good manager but maybe he just came to us at the wrong time. We've had a lot of false dawns that by the time we think we're in a good place, something happens and we go right back around to having an unbalanced squad again. | |||
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"I owe my Arsenal season ticket to Emery, because the football and environment was so bad most people could not wait to give their season tickets back 😂😂 The job was too big for him and the style of football was so clumbersome and drab he never endeared himself to the fan base. United need a cultural reset on and off the field. They need to decide what they want to do with Maguire, Casemiro, Rashford, Sancho, Anthony etc and either sell them for peanuts, banish them to the u23s or terminate their contracts. But they also need to engage the fans and bring through 2-3 new academy prospects that the fans can get behind during the reset. This was the same for us when Saka and Smith Rowe came through and a big part as to why Arsenal fans were so sad to see ESR leave…. He gave us hope when we had none. I think you've got it spot on really and hoping with new people behind the scenes, we can build to that. For the first time in a while, we've had a window where we've had good outgoings in Greenwood, Wan Bissaka, and McTominay. But it takes more than one window to reset a culture. I think Ten Hag is a good manager but maybe he just came to us at the wrong time. We've had a lot of false dawns that by the time we think we're in a good place, something happens and we go right back around to having an unbalanced squad again." How long have they been trying to reshape the culture for? How many windows does it take? | |||
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"I owe my Arsenal season ticket to Emery, because the football and environment was so bad most people could not wait to give their season tickets back 😂😂 The job was too big for him and the style of football was so clumbersome and drab he never endeared himself to the fan base. United need a cultural reset on and off the field. They need to decide what they want to do with Maguire, Casemiro, Rashford, Sancho, Anthony etc and either sell them for peanuts, banish them to the u23s or terminate their contracts. But they also need to engage the fans and bring through 2-3 new academy prospects that the fans can get behind during the reset. This was the same for us when Saka and Smith Rowe came through and a big part as to why Arsenal fans were so sad to see ESR leave…. He gave us hope when we had none. I think you've got it spot on really and hoping with new people behind the scenes, we can build to that. For the first time in a while, we've had a window where we've had good outgoings in Greenwood, Wan Bissaka, and McTominay. But it takes more than one window to reset a culture. I think Ten Hag is a good manager but maybe he just came to us at the wrong time. We've had a lot of false dawns that by the time we think we're in a good place, something happens and we go right back around to having an unbalanced squad again. How long have they been trying to reshape the culture for? How many windows does it take?" When there's a different board running the football side of things that's literally just come in, then yeah, it's gonna take a few years because the last lot clearly had no fucking clue what they were doing. | |||
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"I owe my Arsenal season ticket to Emery, because the football and environment was so bad most people could not wait to give their season tickets back 😂😂 The job was too big for him and the style of football was so clumbersome and drab he never endeared himself to the fan base. United need a cultural reset on and off the field. They need to decide what they want to do with Maguire, Casemiro, Rashford, Sancho, Anthony etc and either sell them for peanuts, banish them to the u23s or terminate their contracts. But they also need to engage the fans and bring through 2-3 new academy prospects that the fans can get behind during the reset. This was the same for us when Saka and Smith Rowe came through and a big part as to why Arsenal fans were so sad to see ESR leave…. He gave us hope when we had none. I think you've got it spot on really and hoping with new people behind the scenes, we can build to that. For the first time in a while, we've had a window where we've had good outgoings in Greenwood, Wan Bissaka, and McTominay. But it takes more than one window to reset a culture. I think Ten Hag is a good manager but maybe he just came to us at the wrong time. We've had a lot of false dawns that by the time we think we're in a good place, something happens and we go right back around to having an unbalanced squad again. How long have they been trying to reshape the culture for? How many windows does it take? When there's a different board running the football side of things that's literally just come in, then yeah, it's gonna take a few years because the last lot clearly had no fucking clue what they were doing." And Ratcliffe knows what he’s doing? Are there any examples of other football clubs he’s been involved in that shows his approach works? How are Nice getting on? | |||
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"And Ratcliffe knows what he’s doing? Are there any examples of other football clubs he’s been involved in that shows his approach works? How are Nice getting on?" No, but that's why he's hired people with football experience in the roles that are needed instead of bankers like the Glazers hired. The planning of the board shows on the pitch so if you don't know about the behind the scenes stuff, then you can't really comment on the effectiveness. Especially if you're comparing the operations of Nice to Manchester United. | |||
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"If you think the fans are the biggest problem then you don’t understand football." And if you don't realise that they are, then you don't understand people. It's only three years since City lost 4-1 to Liverpool. I don't remember any City fans saying Pep should be sacked. The truth is most City fans know how lucky they are. Most United fans are still stuck in the 90s when they were the richest club in the world and could buy success. | |||
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"If you think the fans are the biggest problem then you don’t understand football. And if you don't realise that they are, then you don't understand people. It's only three years since City lost 4-1 to Liverpool. I don't remember any City fans saying Pep should be sacked. The truth is most City fans know how lucky they are. Most United fans are still stuck in the 90s when they were the richest club in the world and could buy success." Oh they absolutely are, what Man U fans forget they’ve only ever been any good under two managers, Busby and Ferguson. Other than that they’ve been a good cup team at best. But It’s not the fans who are paying Casemiro stupid money on a long contract, it’s not the fans who can’t seem to identify a playing style, and it’s not the fans who are spunking £80 million on the likes of Antony. It’s not the fault of the fans that Man U who are a poorly coached bad team. | |||
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"And Ratcliffe knows what he’s doing? Are there any examples of other football clubs he’s been involved in that shows his approach works? How are Nice getting on? No, but that's why he's hired people with football experience in the roles that are needed instead of bankers like the Glazers hired. The planning of the board shows on the pitch so if you don't know about the behind the scenes stuff, then you can't really comment on the effectiveness. Especially if you're comparing the operations of Nice to Manchester United." Yes Man U are a bigger organisation but as you say the planning of the board shows on the pitch. Why wouldn’t what he has done at Nice be a good indicator of what he is going to do at Man U? | |||
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"And Ratcliffe knows what he’s doing? Are there any examples of other football clubs he’s been involved in that shows his approach works? How are Nice getting on? No, but that's why he's hired people with football experience in the roles that are needed instead of bankers like the Glazers hired. The planning of the board shows on the pitch so if you don't know about the behind the scenes stuff, then you can't really comment on the effectiveness. Especially if you're comparing the operations of Nice to Manchester United. Yes Man U are a bigger organisation but as you say the planning of the board shows on the pitch. Why wouldn’t what he has done at Nice be a good indicator of what he is going to do at Man U?" Because the resources to plan and organise a backroom staff are completely different with different pressures and obstacles to navigate. You can't compare the two because it's like going from being the owner of small company with 20 employees to a fortune 250 company with over a thousand. The expectations for Nice and Manchester United are different as well and it's going to take a lot more to get United from 8th to top. | |||
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"If you think the fans are the biggest problem then you don’t understand football. And if you don't realise that they are, then you don't understand people. It's only three years since City lost 4-1 to Liverpool. I don't remember any City fans saying Pep should be sacked. The truth is most City fans know how lucky they are. Most United fans are still stuck in the 90s when they were the richest club in the world and could buy success." And yet, a majority of United fans wanted to keep Ten Hag last season despite the fact we finished 8th because of the injury issues we had. Would City fans for all their recent success accept the same? | |||
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"And Ratcliffe knows what he’s doing? Are there any examples of other football clubs he’s been involved in that shows his approach works? How are Nice getting on? No, but that's why he's hired people with football experience in the roles that are needed instead of bankers like the Glazers hired. The planning of the board shows on the pitch so if you don't know about the behind the scenes stuff, then you can't really comment on the effectiveness. Especially if you're comparing the operations of Nice to Manchester United. Yes Man U are a bigger organisation but as you say the planning of the board shows on the pitch. Why wouldn’t what he has done at Nice be a good indicator of what he is going to do at Man U? Because the resources to plan and organise a backroom staff are completely different with different pressures and obstacles to navigate. You can't compare the two because it's like going from being the owner of small company with 20 employees to a fortune 250 company with over a thousand. The expectations for Nice and Manchester United are different as well and it's going to take a lot more to get United from 8th to top." Expectations are different but aren’t the basics of running a football club the same? Yes more people work at Man U, yes they have more money but surely setting a strategic direction, planning for how you want to achieve your targets, and appointing a coach and buying players to take you there are pretty universal things? | |||
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"Expectations are different but aren’t the basics of running a football club the same? Yes more people work at Man U, yes they have more money but surely setting a strategic direction, planning for how you want to achieve your targets, and appointing a coach and buying players to take you there are pretty universal things?" Yes, they are but if it's done badly to start with, you have to undo the bad before putting your own vision in which the board are trying to do which has probably been at United for all of 3 months. What on earth are people expecting?  | |||
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"Expectations are different but aren’t the basics of running a football club the same? Yes more people work at Man U, yes they have more money but surely setting a strategic direction, planning for how you want to achieve your targets, and appointing a coach and buying players to take you there are pretty universal things? Yes, they are but if it's done badly to start with, you have to undo the bad before putting your own vision in which the board are trying to do which has probably been at United for all of 3 months. What on earth are people expecting? "So if we agree they are universal, then surely what he has done in his five years ownership of Nice is indicative of how he will operate at Man U? I mean he’s had 5 managers in 5 years at Nice, and we know he was trying to replace Ten Hag in the summer. | |||
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"Expectations are different but aren’t the basics of running a football club the same? Yes more people work at Man U, yes they have more money but surely setting a strategic direction, planning for how you want to achieve your targets, and appointing a coach and buying players to take you there are pretty universal things? Yes, they are but if it's done badly to start with, you have to undo the bad before putting your own vision in which the board are trying to do which has probably been at United for all of 3 months. What on earth are people expecting?
So if we agree they are universal, then surely what he has done in his five years ownership of Nice is indicative of how he will operate at Man U? I mean he’s had 5 managers in 5 years at Nice, and we know he was trying to replace Ten Hag in the summer."Well no, because you're talking high level in terms of what's universal but it's the smaller details that make the difference of running Manchester United and Nice and the expectations might be adjusted as a result. Manchester United is a much bigger project which means patience and time will more likely be needed than with Nice. | |||
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"Expectations are different but aren’t the basics of running a football club the same? Yes more people work at Man U, yes they have more money but surely setting a strategic direction, planning for how you want to achieve your targets, and appointing a coach and buying players to take you there are pretty universal things? Yes, they are but if it's done badly to start with, you have to undo the bad before putting your own vision in which the board are trying to do which has probably been at United for all of 3 months. What on earth are people expecting?
So if we agree they are universal, then surely what he has done in his five years ownership of Nice is indicative of how he will operate at Man U? I mean he’s had 5 managers in 5 years at Nice, and we know he was trying to replace Ten Hag in the summer.
Well no, because you're talking high level in terms of what's universal but it's the smaller details that make the difference of running Manchester United and Nice and the expectations might be adjusted as a result. Manchester United is a much bigger project which means patience and time will more likely be needed than with Nice."You’re saying it will be different because, in the words of Gary Neville, “this is Manchester United”? | |||
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"Expectations are different but aren’t the basics of running a football club the same? Yes more people work at Man U, yes they have more money but surely setting a strategic direction, planning for how you want to achieve your targets, and appointing a coach and buying players to take you there are pretty universal things? Yes, they are but if it's done badly to start with, you have to undo the bad before putting your own vision in which the board are trying to do which has probably been at United for all of 3 months. What on earth are people expecting?
So if we agree they are universal, then surely what he has done in his five years ownership of Nice is indicative of how he will operate at Man U? I mean he’s had 5 managers in 5 years at Nice, and we know he was trying to replace Ten Hag in the summer.
Well no, because you're talking high level in terms of what's universal but it's the smaller details that make the difference of running Manchester United and Nice and the expectations might be adjusted as a result. Manchester United is a much bigger project which means patience and time will more likely be needed than with Nice.
You’re saying it will be different because, in the words of Gary Neville, “this is Manchester United”?"I'm not saying it will be different. I know shit about how Manchester United are going to operate or how Ratcliffe will run them. It's just a shame I'm the only one that can admit it. | |||
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"Manchester United fans have to accept that as in all sports you can only dominate for so long .... If Pep leaves city they could in time fade just like Man United have ... No one ever stays at the top forever ..." 100% agree with this. I'm sure United will one day be a more successful club than City, that's just the way that the wheel turns. But when they do, it will be with everyone pulling together. Currently United fans are the best in the world - at whining and complaining. | |||
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"Manchester United fans have to accept that as in all sports you can only dominate for so long .... If Pep leaves city they could in time fade just like Man United have ... No one ever stays at the top forever ... 100% agree with this. I'm sure United will one day be a more successful club than City, that's just the way that the wheel turns. But when they do, it will be with everyone pulling together. Currently United fans are the best in the world - at whining and complaining." We are a more successful club than City... | |||
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"'Ten Haig at the wheel, at the wheel, at the wheel, Ten Haig at the wheel, nananana' lol. We destroyed that lot without getting into top gear. As a Liverpool fan I laugh with glee at Man Ure. How the might have fallen, they are more in chance of getting relegated then making the top four at this rate." 1 league in over 30 years | |||
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"'Ten Haig at the wheel, at the wheel, at the wheel, Ten Haig at the wheel, nananana' lol. We destroyed that lot without getting into top gear. As a Liverpool fan I laugh with glee at Man Ure. How the might have fallen, they are more in chance of getting relegated then making the top four at this rate. 1 league in over 30 years" Would be more if a certain red nose scot didn't always get his own way and the blue side of Manchester didn't cheat there way to titles oh hope after all those charges the get the Juventus/Rangers treatment. | |||
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"'Ten Haig at the wheel, at the wheel, at the wheel, Ten Haig at the wheel, nananana' lol. We destroyed that lot without getting into top gear. As a Liverpool fan I laugh with glee at Man Ure. How the might have fallen, they are more in chance of getting relegated then making the top four at this rate. 1 league in over 30 years Would be more if a certain red nose scot didn't always get his own way and the blue side of Manchester didn't cheat there way to titles oh hope after all those charges the get the Juventus/Rangers treatment." I don't think Sir Alex has anything to do with that. While he was there, Liverpool only really challenged for the league once. Facts  | |||
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"'Ten Haig at the wheel, at the wheel, at the wheel, Ten Haig at the wheel, nananana' lol. We destroyed that lot without getting into top gear. As a Liverpool fan I laugh with glee at Man Ure. How the might have fallen, they are more in chance of getting relegated then making the top four at this rate." Liverpool have the worst of it all though... At least Arsenal have a chance. Villa and Brighton are exciting prospects, scrapping it out for a top place. Liverpool... just there. Not doing much. Not achieving anything. Comfortable (for now), but not going anywhere. I'm not sure I'd be happy with that. | |||
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"'Ten Haig at the wheel, at the wheel, at the wheel, Ten Haig at the wheel, nananana' lol. We destroyed that lot without getting into top gear. As a Liverpool fan I laugh with glee at Man Ure. How the might have fallen, they are more in chance of getting relegated then making the top four at this rate. 1 league in over 30 years" 1 league in 13 years, and counting. | |||
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"And Ratcliffe knows what he’s doing? Are there any examples of other football clubs he’s been involved in that shows his approach works? How are Nice getting on? No, but that's why he's hired people with football experience in the roles that are needed instead of bankers like the Glazers hired. The planning of the board shows on the pitch so if you don't know about the behind the scenes stuff, then you can't really comment on the effectiveness. Especially if you're comparing the operations of Nice to Manchester United." Yes he has hired football people … and put a cycling coach in charge. Different sport. In cycling, they do exactly as they are told every day. Man United squad? Nah, think I’ll go on the piss in Belfast … | |||
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"'Ten Haig at the wheel, at the wheel, at the wheel, Ten Haig at the wheel, nananana' lol. We destroyed that lot without getting into top gear. As a Liverpool fan I laugh with glee at Man Ure. How the might have fallen, they are more in chance of getting relegated then making the top four at this rate. Liverpool have the worst of it all though... At least Arsenal have a chance. Villa and Brighton are exciting prospects, scrapping it out for a top place. Liverpool... just there. Not doing much. Not achieving anything. Comfortable (for now), but not going anywhere. I'm not sure I'd be happy with that." 0-3 | |||
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"'Ten Haig at the wheel, at the wheel, at the wheel, Ten Haig at the wheel, nananana' lol. We destroyed that lot without getting into top gear. As a Liverpool fan I laugh with glee at Man Ure. How the might have fallen, they are more in chance of getting relegated then making the top four at this rate. 1 league in over 30 years Would be more if a certain red nose scot didn't always get his own way and the blue side of Manchester didn't cheat there way to titles oh hope after all those charges the get the Juventus/Rangers treatment. I don't think Sir Alex has anything to do with that. While he was there, Liverpool only really challenged for the league once. Facts "Liverpool actually won the league twice while Fergie managed Utd. | |||
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"And Ratcliffe knows what he’s doing? Are there any examples of other football clubs he’s been involved in that shows his approach works? How are Nice getting on? No, but that's why he's hired people with football experience in the roles that are needed instead of bankers like the Glazers hired. The planning of the board shows on the pitch so if you don't know about the behind the scenes stuff, then you can't really comment on the effectiveness. Especially if you're comparing the operations of Nice to Manchester United. Yes he has hired football people … and put a cycling coach in charge. Different sport. In cycling, they do exactly as they are told every day. Man United squad? Nah, think I’ll go on the piss in Belfast … " Dan Ashworth who was at Newcastle, Jason Wilcox who was at Southampton and Omar Berrada who was at City are cycling people? 🤔 | |||
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"'Ten Haig at the wheel, at the wheel, at the wheel, Ten Haig at the wheel, nananana' lol. We destroyed that lot without getting into top gear. As a Liverpool fan I laugh with glee at Man Ure. How the might have fallen, they are more in chance of getting relegated then making the top four at this rate. 1 league in over 30 years Would be more if a certain red nose scot didn't always get his own way and the blue side of Manchester didn't cheat there way to titles oh hope after all those charges the get the Juventus/Rangers treatment. I don't think Sir Alex has anything to do with that. While he was there, Liverpool only really challenged for the league once. Facts
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"He’s been given a vote of confidence by the board, so nothing can go wrong now!" Which he was given before the Liverpool match but sure, keep your agenda 👍 | |||
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"'Ten Haig at the wheel, at the wheel, at the wheel, Ten Haig at the wheel, nananana' lol. We destroyed that lot without getting into top gear. As a Liverpool fan I laugh with glee at Man Ure. How the might have fallen, they are more in chance of getting relegated then making the top four at this rate. 1 league in over 30 years Would be more if a certain red nose scot didn't always get his own way and the blue side of Manchester didn't cheat there way to titles oh hope after all those charges the get the Juventus/Rangers treatment. I don't think Sir Alex has anything to do with that. While he was there, Liverpool only really challenged for the league once. Facts
Liverpool actually won the league twice while Fergie managed Utd.
Please, everyone knows football didn't exist before the Premier League 😆"Ha you pre-empted my next comment. Well-played, sir! | |||
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"He’s been given a vote of confidence by the board, so nothing can go wrong now! Which he was given before the Liverpool match but sure, keep your agenda 👍" Good to see Man U fans taking the humiliation well. | |||
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"He’s been given a vote of confidence by the board, so nothing can go wrong now! Which he was given before the Liverpool match but sure, keep your agenda 👍 Good to see Man U fans taking the humiliation well." I just find it funny that you care more about another team than your own while probably knowing the same amount about both... That's nothing in case you needed it spelling out ❤️ | |||
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"He’s been given a vote of confidence by the board, so nothing can go wrong now! Which he was given before the Liverpool match but sure, keep your agenda 👍 Good to see Man U fans taking the humiliation well. I just find it funny that you care more about another team than your own while probably knowing the same amount about both... That's nothing in case you needed it spelling out ❤️" I don’t care about them particularly, just like to keep up with the fortunes of mid table clubs rather than just those challenging for the title. | |||
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"He’s been given a vote of confidence by the board, so nothing can go wrong now! Which he was given before the Liverpool match but sure, keep your agenda 👍 Good to see Man U fans taking the humiliation well. I just find it funny that you care more about another team than your own while probably knowing the same amount about both... That's nothing in case you needed it spelling out ❤️ I don’t care about them particularly, just like to keep up with the fortunes of mid table clubs rather than just those challenging for the title." It's ok, you can admit your bias. United ruined plenty of other childhoods too. You're not alone. | |||
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"He’s been given a vote of confidence by the board, so nothing can go wrong now! Which he was given before the Liverpool match but sure, keep your agenda 👍 Good to see Man U fans taking the humiliation well. I just find it funny that you care more about another team than your own while probably knowing the same amount about both... That's nothing in case you needed it spelling out ❤️ I don’t care about them particularly, just like to keep up with the fortunes of mid table clubs rather than just those challenging for the title. It's ok, you can admit your bias. United ruined plenty of other childhoods too. You're not alone." Oh dear no, Man U were also rans when I was a lad, they’ve simply reverted to type as far as I’m concerned. | |||
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"He’s been given a vote of confidence by the board, so nothing can go wrong now! Which he was given before the Liverpool match but sure, keep your agenda 👍 Good to see Man U fans taking the humiliation well. I just find it funny that you care more about another team than your own while probably knowing the same amount about both... That's nothing in case you needed it spelling out ❤️ I don’t care about them particularly, just like to keep up with the fortunes of mid table clubs rather than just those challenging for the title. It's ok, you can admit your bias. United ruined plenty of other childhoods too. You're not alone. Oh dear no, Man U were also rans when I was a lad, they’ve simply reverted to type as far as I’m concerned." Then no need to resurrect a thread after 13 hours just to talk about a vote of confidence. Hated, adored... | |||
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"United will bounce back even though it's been tough last 10 years, still won 5 or 6 trophies not bad for a lean spell. City before the money came in struggled to even say in the Premier league." Exactly. The fans of most teams would be ecstatic to have the success that United have had over the last few years. But the truth is a lot of so called United fans only chose them because they were successful, and so can't take a comparatively lean patch, and so whinge everywhere when they should be supporting their team. The same is likely to happen to City and their new fans eventually. And United didn't win much before the money started to pour in either. | |||
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"And Ratcliffe knows what he’s doing? Are there any examples of other football clubs he’s been involved in that shows his approach works? How are Nice getting on? No, but that's why he's hired people with football experience in the roles that are needed instead of bankers like the Glazers hired. The planning of the board shows on the pitch so if you don't know about the behind the scenes stuff, then you can't really comment on the effectiveness. Especially if you're comparing the operations of Nice to Manchester United. Yes he has hired football people … and put a cycling coach in charge. Different sport. In cycling, they do exactly as they are told every day. Man United squad? Nah, think I’ll go on the piss in Belfast … Dan Ashworth who was at Newcastle, Jason Wilcox who was at Southampton and Omar Berrada who was at City are cycling people? 🤔" Hi. They fall under the “he has hired football people” bit. Try reading what I actually posted. 🙄 | |||
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"He’s been given a vote of confidence by the board, so nothing can go wrong now! Which he was given before the Liverpool match but sure, keep your agenda 👍" What agenda is that then? | |||
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"He’s been given a vote of confidence by the board, so nothing can go wrong now! Which he was given before the Liverpool match but sure, keep your agenda 👍 Good to see Man U fans taking the humiliation well. I just find it funny that you care more about another team than your own while probably knowing the same amount about both... That's nothing in case you needed it spelling out ❤️" Why so offensive? This thread is about the man United manager, by the way, so seems pretty logical that posters are posting about the man United manager. … in case you need it spelling out! 🤣 | |||
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"United will bounce back even though it's been tough last 10 years, still won 5 or 6 trophies not bad for a lean spell. City before the money came in struggled to even say in the Premier league." You seem to me saying that United have hugely lowered their expectations. Yeah, that’s fair | |||
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"Boardroom backing’ is shorthand for you are getting your arse so fired, except we don’t have anyone else lined up that’s silly enough to take the job on so we will let you dig a deeper hole and then fire you and make you out to be the bad egg, Man Utd are rotten from the top down, this is what happens when you bleed a club dry " Actually, several reports suggest that they have lined up a replacement. Tuchel | |||
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"Half the problem at united is they cycle through different managers, with different tactical approaches. Then they end up with a mismatch of players, most of whom have no idea if they will be playing there next season. I would've argued that in his first and second season but there are a good number of players who are his and some of which aren't good enough. Granted, a good number of the signings were from the lack of foresight from the previous board but I really thought we would be better set up tactically by now..." On reflection, and after watching some of the tactical analysis of the match, you have a good point. His tactical frailty was exposed too easily and he didn't have an answer to it. I still think getting some stability is the most important thing for Man United, so if they change manager they really need to be sure about who they are getting in. | |||
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"Half the problem at united is they cycle through different managers, with different tactical approaches. Then they end up with a mismatch of players, most of whom have no idea if they will be playing there next season. I would've argued that in his first and second season but there are a good number of players who are his and some of which aren't good enough. Granted, a good number of the signings were from the lack of foresight from the previous board but I really thought we would be better set up tactically by now... On reflection, and after watching some of the tactical analysis of the match, you have a good point. His tactical frailty was exposed too easily and he didn't have an answer to it. I still think getting some stability is the most important thing for Man United, so if they change manager they really need to be sure about who they are getting in." Absolutely. They have got a reputation now for being quick to fire managers, and burned their way through some good experienced managers. JR has inherited ETH, and will want to keep him if possible rather than introduce more turmoil. | |||
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"Half the problem at united is they cycle through different managers, with different tactical approaches. Then they end up with a mismatch of players, most of whom have no idea if they will be playing there next season. I would've argued that in his first and second season but there are a good number of players who are his and some of which aren't good enough. Granted, a good number of the signings were from the lack of foresight from the previous board but I really thought we would be better set up tactically by now... On reflection, and after watching some of the tactical analysis of the match, you have a good point. His tactical frailty was exposed too easily and he didn't have an answer to it. I still think getting some stability is the most important thing for Man United, so if they change manager they really need to be sure about who they are getting in." That’s the most damning thing for Ten Hag, he’s now into his third season and the players still don’t seem to know what he wants them to do. And that’s with him spending over half a billion on players. | |||
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