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By *enegadeM OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Oxfordshire

Hello wonderful fabbers

So often you see the moans and hardships of those struggling with fab, whether that be can’t get a meet, guys too rude, no effort in messages, too many barriers/ expectations

Is there a root cause to this ? Can they be fixed? Can peoples ideas be put in place ? Or do we just have to filter our way out if it ?

Always welcome positive and healthy discussion

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By *mf123Man
12 weeks ago

with one foot out the door

Some folks have it some dont and most are in the middle

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By *nesCouple
12 weeks ago

Milton Keynes, city of dreams

Single blokes (‘not all men, but always men’) need to lose their sense of entitlement.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
12 weeks ago

Central

Most things are connected to unrealistic expectations. They assume that millions will be gagging for it, with them or almost anybody -

Or if online, must be expecting it ASAP -

It's not about personality, so flashing cock pics and saying you're a man, is more than enough -

Everything should fall into your lap, with near zero effort, etc

If they change their expectations, they'd be working smarter at potentially getting progress. Only they can do that.

But the site could give regular informational nudges

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By *ealitybitesMan
12 weeks ago

Belfast


"Single blokes (‘not all men, but always men’) need to lose their sense of entitlement. "

Speaking as one of those men it's far from being always men who have the sense of entitlement.

There are many women here who don't understand the word no and the only abuse I've ever received in 8 years here has come from couples who have contacted me with lists of instructions and demands and then called me all sorts of names when I politely refused.

I'm also one half of a fab couples profile here so I'm not coming at this just from the one angle and it's not a dig at couples in general.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

12 weeks ago

East Sussex

People need to adjust their expectations and use their darn filters and the block button.

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By *ealitybitesMan
12 weeks ago

Belfast


"Single blokes (‘not all men, but always men’) need to lose their sense of entitlement.

Speaking as one of those men it's far from being always men who have the sense of entitlement.

There are many women here who don't understand the word no and the only abuse I've ever received in 8 years here has come from couples who have contacted me with lists of instructions and demands and then called me all sorts of names when I politely refused.

I'm also one half of a fab couples profile here so I'm not coming at this just from the one angle and it's not a dig at couples in general.

"

In regard to fixing it, the best solution is to speak to people as equals rather than talking down or sucking up.

Men are given advice every day on the forums about how to improve their approach and often that advice is offered by profiles that are equally if not even more lazy than those they are advising.

Women and couples complain about the amount or the quality of messages they receive but refuse to use the tools already there to filter out most of those issues.

You can't complain about the quality of messages if you have put very little effort into your profile and can't be arsed using filters.

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By *neeyedwillieMan
12 weeks ago

Darlington

There is no fix. May sound a little doom and gloom but there are too many hurdles with this online stuff, especially on Fab. It's to impersonal and misses a lot of the nuances of face to face interactions and sexual attraction.

Meeting at socials or clubs...only way to go in my opinion and use fab to stay in touch.

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By *enegadeM OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Oxfordshire

So it seems expectations is a big part of it?

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
12 weeks ago

Leeds

Maybe you could fix my dilemma I'm seeking 12 women for an orgy, I haven't yet done a post to moan though.

Mrs

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

12 weeks ago

East Sussex

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

12 weeks ago

East Sussex


"So it seems expectations is a big part of it? "

I think so. From everyone.

I think the two main expectations are that people will behave the same on the internet as they do in real life and women will behave duffyin the internet than they do in real life. 🤷‍♀️

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

12 weeks ago

East Sussex

*differently

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By *enegadeM OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Oxfordshire


"Maybe you could fix my dilemma I'm seeking 12 women for an orgy, I haven't yet done a post to moan though.

Mrs "

I can’t imagine you would have a dilemma with getting offers, just the logistics of so many

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By *enegadeM OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Oxfordshire


"So it seems expectations is a big part of it?

I think so. From everyone.

I think the two main expectations are that people will behave the same on the internet as they do in real life and women will behave duffyin the internet than they do in real life. 🤷‍♀️"

Why do you think ?

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By *he Silver FuxMan
12 weeks ago

Uttoxeter


"Hello wonderful fabbers

So often you see the moans and hardships of those struggling with fab, whether that be can’t get a meet, guys too rude, no effort in messages, too many barriers/ expectations

Is there a root cause to this ? Can they be fixed? Can peoples ideas be put in place ? Or do we just have to filter our way out if it ?

Always welcome positive and healthy discussion "

Some people aren’t very ‘fuckable’

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By *ong-leggedblondWoman
12 weeks ago

Next Door


"Hello wonderful fabbers

So often you see the moans and hardships of those struggling with fab, whether that be can’t get a meet, guys too rude, no effort in messages, too many barriers/ expectations

Is there a root cause to this ? Can they be fixed? Can peoples ideas be put in place ? Or do we just have to filter our way out if it ?

Always welcome positive and healthy discussion

Some people aren’t very ‘fuckable’ "

Well you've either got it or you haven't. The latter, for me 🤷‍♀️

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By *he Silver FuxMan
12 weeks ago

Uttoxeter


"Hello wonderful fabbers

So often you see the moans and hardships of those struggling with fab, whether that be can’t get a meet, guys too rude, no effort in messages, too many barriers/ expectations

Is there a root cause to this ? Can they be fixed? Can peoples ideas be put in place ? Or do we just have to filter our way out if it ?

Always welcome positive and healthy discussion

Some people aren’t very ‘fuckable’

Well you've either got it or you haven't. The latter, for me 🤷‍♀️"

Many, including me, disagree with your self assessment…

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By *enegadeM OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Oxfordshire


"Hello wonderful fabbers

So often you see the moans and hardships of those struggling with fab, whether that be can’t get a meet, guys too rude, no effort in messages, too many barriers/ expectations

Is there a root cause to this ? Can they be fixed? Can peoples ideas be put in place ? Or do we just have to filter our way out if it ?

Always welcome positive and healthy discussion

Some people aren’t very ‘fuckable’

Well you've either got it or you haven't. The latter, for me 🤷‍♀️

Many, including me, disagree with your self assessment…

"

I’m with him, disagree

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By *eroLondonMan
12 weeks ago

Covent Garden

Without appearing to be defeatist or insouciant in such important questions of our time...


"...Is there a root cause to this?"
Yes, unknown.


"...Can they be fixed?"
Nø, regrettably.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

12 weeks ago

East Sussex


"So it seems expectations is a big part of it?

I think so. From everyone.

I think the two main expectations are that people will behave the same on the internet as they do in real life and women will behave duffyin the internet than they do in real life. 🤷‍♀️

Why do you think ? "

Because people forget that the anonymity afforded by the net makes people do and say things they would in person.

Because people are lead to believe that swingers are somehow different and will have sex with anybody who asks.

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By *imply DeeWoman
12 weeks ago

Wherever

Logistics and timing for me. Fix that and I’ll be jumping like bunny. Quite literally.

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By *aven.Woman
12 weeks ago

Not the North West...


"Single blokes (‘not all men, but always men’) need to lose their sense of entitlement. "

I'd say there's entitlement and egos on all sides.

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By (user no longer on site)
12 weeks ago


"Single blokes (‘not all men, but always men’) need to lose their sense of entitlement.

I'd say there's entitlement and egos on all sides. "

Everywhere!!! There are egos everywhere!!

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By *elix SightedMan
12 weeks ago

Cloud 8


"So it seems expectations is a big part of it?

I think so. From everyone.

I think the two main expectations are that people will behave the same on the internet as they do in real life and women will behave duffyin the internet than they do in real life. 🤷‍♀️

Why do you think ?

Because people forget that the anonymity afforded by the net makes people do and say things they would in person.

Because people are lead to believe that swingers are somehow different and will have sex with anybody who asks.

"

Fancy a shag?

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By *rimson_RoseWoman
12 weeks ago

Tamworth


"Single blokes (‘not all men, but always men’) need to lose their sense of entitlement. "

Totally disagree there. I get messages from countless entitled women and couples and often see them posting in the forum.

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By *enegadeM OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Oxfordshire


"So it seems expectations is a big part of it?

I think so. From everyone.

I think the two main expectations are that people will behave the same on the internet as they do in real life and women will behave duffyin the internet than they do in real life. 🤷‍♀️

Why do you think ?

Because people forget that the anonymity afforded by the net makes people do and say things they would in person.

Because people are lead to believe that swingers are somehow different and will have sex with anybody who asks.

"

I meant the difference between men and women you mentioned …how men do the same on & off here and yet women you said differ between here & off?

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By *ay W. BeauWoman
12 weeks ago

Wolvo


"Most things are connected to unrealistic expectations. They assume that millions will be gagging for it, with them or almost anybody -

Or if online, must be expecting it ASAP -

It's not about personality, so flashing cock pics and saying you're a man, is more than enough -

Everything should fall into your lap, with near zero effort, etc

If they change their expectations, they'd be working smarter at potentially getting progress. Only they can do that.

But the site could give regular informational nudges"

Well said!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

12 weeks ago

East Sussex


"So it seems expectations is a big part of it?

I think so. From everyone.

I think the two main expectations are that people will behave the same on the internet as they do in real life and women will behave duffyin the internet than they do in real life. 🤷‍♀️

Why do you think ?

Because people forget that the anonymity afforded by the net makes people do and say things they would in person.

Because people are lead to believe that swingers are somehow different and will have sex with anybody who asks.

I meant the difference between men and women you mentioned …how men do the same on & off here and yet women you said differ between here & off? "

What I meant was people will say and do things on the net that they wouldn't do and say face to face. But men mostly expect women to behave differently ie be up for sex with anyone at the drop of a hat.

Not all people but the ones who find it difficult to understand how fab works.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

12 weeks ago

East Sussex


"So it seems expectations is a big part of it?

I think so. From everyone.

I think the two main expectations are that people will behave the same on the internet as they do in real life and women will behave duffyin the internet than they do in real life. 🤷‍♀️

Why do you think ?

Because people forget that the anonymity afforded by the net makes people do and say things they would in person.

Because people are lead to believe that swingers are somehow different and will have sex with anybody who asks.

Fancy a shag?"

Can I finish my coffee unless you can manage it without me spilling any

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By *aramel.desiresMan
12 weeks ago

Holborn


"Single blokes (‘not all men, but always men’) need to lose their sense of entitlement. "

This will take years of rewiring their brain. It's all about education but definitely worth it.

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By *oo..Woman
12 weeks ago

Boo's World

Can you really fix the "knobhead" installed into some people though?

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By *enegadeM OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Oxfordshire


"Can you really fix the "knobhead" installed into some people though?

"

🤣🤣

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
12 weeks ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I think that some people bring their foibles and so on with them, whatever platform they are on.

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By *aramel.desiresMan
12 weeks ago

Holborn


"Can you really fix the "knobhead" installed into some people though?

"

We have to try otherwise the cycle never ends.

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By (user no longer on site)
12 weeks ago

Surely one takes the socks from a "nude except for..." threesome wank bank image and pops them in the mouth of the "nobody wants me" individual thereby alleviating the moaning for the rest of us (and improving the self pleasure material for the frustrated)?

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By (user no longer on site)
12 weeks ago

*And* the wank bank image sharers get to stop complaining about how their pics aren't fabbed enough.

I don't really see a flaw in the plan given sufficient sock couriers?

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By *reggSausageMan
12 weeks ago

derby

Hiding behind the veil of anonymity gives people ideas well above their station that’s for sure, they can’t be fixed, off with their heads

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By *eordieJeansCouple
12 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Yes we can!

Sorry I thought this was the Bob the Builder song.

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By *ittlebirdWoman
12 weeks ago

The Big Smoke

Why would I want to fix anyone else? If they want to act like a cunt that’s their problem 😘

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By *parkle1974Woman
12 weeks ago

Leeds

Be good if you could name/shame and show some messages that are received...half the idiots would soon disappear x

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By *amantha_JadeWoman
12 weeks ago

Newcastle

I haven’t read all of the comments above so sorry if I’m repeating but I believe the root cause of the frustrations on Fab are simply the unrealistic expectations that many of us may have…

Expecting more luck on fab than you would get in a ‘normal’ bar/club

Expecting loads of offers when your profile has one blurry picture of your knob with your pants round your ankles

Expecting virtual strangers to engage with you out of politeness

Expecting the majority to take good quality photos

Expecting anyone to be particularly charming or reliable

Expecting any form of commitment from someone who may be just solely here to have sex with multiple people

to name a few…

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By *nesCouple
12 weeks ago

Milton Keynes, city of dreams


"Why would I want to fix anyone else? If they want to act like a cunt that’s their problem 😘"

100%

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By *ansoffateMan
12 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

I think there a human tendency to think desired outcomes are a consequence of our decisions and undesired outcomes are factors outside of our control.

Personally, I think there's so many factors involved, it's often timing as much as it is anything else. It's quite random really, perhaps even in the hands of fate.

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By *enegadeM OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Oxfordshire


"Yes we can!

Sorry I thought this was the Bob the Builder song."

It took longer than I expected 🤣

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By *enegadeM OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Oxfordshire


"Be good if you could name/shame and show some messages that are received...half the idiots would soon disappear x"

Are you not allowed to do that? I am sure I have seen statuses with names called out before

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By *enegadeM OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Oxfordshire


"I think there a human tendency to think desired outcomes are a consequence of our decisions and undesired outcomes are factors outside of our control.

Personally, I think there's so many factors involved, it's often timing as much as it is anything else. It's quite random really, perhaps even in the hands of fate."

The gods will answer our prayers!!! Or Karen might just be available to travel 63 mile to suck a dick on a Tuesday morning before work? Luck would have it after all

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By *iker JackMan
12 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

My attitude is live and let live

Filters and the block button are there for a reason, so the site has the tools to be used, if you don’t use them then you can’t blame the site

I am pleased that it is recognised here by most that it’s not just men that are the problem. There is always great talk of how many more men are on here to woman and couples so without asking the Sydney University for any statistics I would have thought that proportionally as a percentage it’s probably about the same across all groups on here just men get a “worse press” as there are more of them

There are people on here that visually I think “hell yes” then I read a profile and see their interactions and think “hell no” and I am sure that people think the same of me

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By *acey_RedWoman
12 weeks ago

Liverpool


"Maybe you could fix my dilemma I'm seeking 12 women for an orgy, I haven't yet done a post to moan though.

Mrs "

Try leaving out a trail of pre lubed cucumbers.

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By *enegadeM OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Oxfordshire


"Maybe you could fix my dilemma I'm seeking 12 women for an orgy, I haven't yet done a post to moan though.

Mrs

Try leaving out a trail of pre lubed cucumbers."

Use of cucumbers so they can be eaten later on?

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By *wiss Army KnifeMan
12 weeks ago

Second star to the right…


"Single blokes (‘not all men, but always men’) need to lose their sense of entitlement. "

I resemble that remark, we are not an entitled bunch at all!!

Any FAF and I will be expecting you both a 7pm sharp and don’t expect petrol money as meeting me should be payment enough 😂

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By *acey_RedWoman
12 weeks ago

Liverpool


"Maybe you could fix my dilemma I'm seeking 12 women for an orgy, I haven't yet done a post to moan though.

Mrs

Try leaving out a trail of pre lubed cucumbers.

Use of cucumbers so they can be eaten later on? "

Of course! Rehydrating snacks are essential post orgy!

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By *ames 13Man
12 weeks ago

Cronton


"There is no fix. May sound a little doom and gloom but there are too many hurdles with this online stuff, especially on Fab. It's to impersonal and misses a lot of the nuances of face to face interactions and sexual attraction.

"

I agree with this. It's the same with OLD.

That initial spark, animal magnetism, shot of electricity when you initially lock eyes is very difficult to replicate on a site/app.

Failing that, there are plenty of entitled k*******s on Fab; both genders

You just have to be patient, and I agree with an above poster...good timing is often the big difference between a success and a failure over message

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By *wiss Army KnifeMan
12 weeks ago

Second star to the right…


"Maybe you could fix my dilemma I'm seeking 12 women for an orgy, I haven't yet done a post to moan though.

Mrs

Try leaving out a trail of pre lubed cucumbers.

Use of cucumbers so they can be eaten later on?

Of course! Rehydrating snacks are essential post orgy!"

Love a thread crossover

Maybe a new film can be posted online, 12 women and a cucumber 😂

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By *enegadeM OP   Man
12 weeks ago

Oxfordshire


"Maybe you could fix my dilemma I'm seeking 12 women for an orgy, I haven't yet done a post to moan though.

Mrs

Try leaving out a trail of pre lubed cucumbers.

Use of cucumbers so they can be eaten later on?

Of course! Rehydrating snacks are essential post orgy!"

I wouldn’t know …. Never had one

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