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How your AI use affects the climate.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
15 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

I read an interesting article about ai and apparently, did you know that your use of ai could affect the climate?

Here is how, it said that for every time you perform a simple search via an ai powered chatbot like chatgp, it takes about half a liter of water to cool down the data server halls needed for the system to function.

They added that search engines or chatbots are the type of technology where you start to see quite clearly that energy use and the carbon footprint are growing

What is your view about it, do you think that a simple search could affect the climate as they say? Imagine if 1 billion did a search at the same, that is about 1 billion liter of water, what does it cost us in terms of energy and the environment, interesting isnt it?

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By *ouple4voyeurCouple
15 weeks ago

Birmingham

Well 1 wonder how many litres of water it took for people to come up with this. 🤔

But I wondering like your post it's over estimated.

You say it take .5ltr to cool down server for 1 search. Then you say it's 1 billion litres to cool 1 billion searches when in fact it would be 500,000ltr.

You ever thought of running for the government as they like to twist things 🤣🤣🤣

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By *ouple4voyeurCouple
15 weeks ago

Birmingham

500,000 million litres not 1 billion oops, my bad

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
15 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

Yeah, that maths is off.

But also, the server farms housing AIs will require a large amount of cooling whether it's currently being used or not. How much extra it costs to actually utilise it will be a much smaller amount.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
15 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"Yeah, that maths is off.

But also, the server farms housing AIs will require a large amount of cooling whether it's currently being used or not. How much extra it costs to actually utilise it will be a much smaller amount."
Yes, it is, it should be less amount of water, that is right, those ai server farms would require a large amount of cooling whether it is used or not too

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By *ulieScrumptiousWoman
15 weeks ago

North West

Shag, your determination to see both sides of everything reminds me of a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon about neo-Cubism 😁😉

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By *icolerobbieCouple
15 weeks ago

walsall

But the water is infinitely recyclable so it’s all good, apart from the energy to pump it that comes from nuclear* power station.

*or coal, gas.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
15 weeks ago

Central

It's frightening just how much energy and resources AI takes. . If we do a typical web search upon AI, rather than via the regular formatz it's disgusting just what the impact is.

Of course, these AI systems have to be trained first, which also has a very large impact, before the public gets a chance to use them.

I've made a tiny use of AI directly but it will have been brought into use indirectly, when I've used the internet for other things.

I'd prefer some tight controls but it's not going to happen. The systems in The Republic of Ireland use a large part of the country's resources at times. 'Nearly a fifth of Ireland’s electricity is used up by data centres', said the BBC in May.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
15 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

It won't be that way for ever Shag.

Skynet and the terminators will kill us all long before we run out of water.

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By *rHotNottsMan
15 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham

All computing resource takes power and cooling, Complex AI & supercomputers does take more. Hardware will evolve to deal with this in the next 20 years, there are some good sound video AI hardware in the pipeline

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By *rHotNottsMan
15 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"It's frightening just how much energy and resources AI takes. . If we do a typical web search upon AI, rather than via the regular formatz it's disgusting just what the impact is.

Of course, these AI systems have to be trained first, which also has a very large impact, before the public gets a chance to use them.

I've made a tiny use of AI directly but it will have been brought into use indirectly, when I've used the internet for other things.

I'd prefer some tight controls but it's not going to happen. The systems in The Republic of Ireland use a large part of the country's resources at times. 'Nearly a fifth of Ireland’s electricity is used up by data centres', said the BBC in May. "

Remember bitcoin mining ? A lot of it shifted to Iceland to be powered by solar and cooled naturally.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
15 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"Shag, your determination to see both sides of everything reminds me of a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon about neo-Cubism 😁😉"
Hi julie, yes. I always like to see both sides of everything too

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
15 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"All computing resource takes power and cooling, Complex AI & supercomputers does take more. Hardware will evolve to deal with this in the next 20 years, there are some good sound video AI hardware in the pipeline"
Yes, all computing resource takes power and cooling too.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
15 weeks ago

Central

It's a pity that we don't have our impact on global heating more under control, as the AI load is phenomenal.

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By *electableicecreamMan
15 weeks ago

The West

Doesn't add up. The number of data centers running AI right now are fractional compared to what is the currently powering the Internet globally.

It will increase obviously but the current scaremongering is just that.

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By (user no longer on site)
15 weeks ago

*Woody Google’s to see if this is true …

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By *electableicecreamMan
15 weeks ago

The West


"*Woody Google’s to see if this is true … "

I used an AI to get the info 😁

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
15 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"It's frightening just how much energy and resources AI takes. . If we do a typical web search upon AI, rather than via the regular formatz it's disgusting just what the impact is.

Of course, these AI systems have to be trained first, which also has a very large impact, before the public gets a chance to use them.

I've made a tiny use of AI directly but it will have been brought into use indirectly, when I've used the internet for other things.

I'd prefer some tight controls but it's not going to happen. The systems in The Republic of Ireland use a large part of the country's resources at times. 'Nearly a fifth of Ireland’s electricity is used up by data centres', said the BBC in May. "
Yes, ai takes up a lot of energy and resources too.

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By *younaughty2Man
15 weeks ago

preston


"But the water is infinitely recyclable so it’s all good, apart from the energy to pump it that comes from nuclear* power station.

*or coal, gas."

I was thinking the same thing, its almost a closed loop, some gasses do escape the atmosphere but that's about it everything else (energy) will be broken down eventually in the future

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By *illiam101000Man
15 weeks ago

Melton Mowbray

What really effects energy usage and climate change is the huge power drain in keeping everyone's data storage of mainly useless information and pictures storage and gaming capabilities. It's all linked to our addiction of storage.

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