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"But also, it’s because Black men are fucking stunning. " Looking in the mirror?  | |||
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"But also, it’s because Black men are fucking stunning. Looking in the mirror? "Yes. And I love what I see   | |||
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"But also, it’s because Black men are fucking stunning. Looking in the mirror?
Yes. And I love what I see
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"Because of a racist idea of hypersexuality and the whole myth of BBC." Yes to this. | |||
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"Only meet Black guys on here but never dated one. 🚩" Horrible and most definitely a red flag! | |||
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"But also, it’s because Black men are fucking stunning. " Yes!!!  | |||
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"Only meet Black guys on here but never dated one. 🚩" 🎯 | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔" Uninvolved 🤭🤭 | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔" For some it's a healthy preference and for others it's something grosse. Nothing wrong in being honest and candid about these things. | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔" Same as people not wanting to fuck Tories. Just preference innit 💣 | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 For some it's a healthy preference and for others it's something grosse. Nothing wrong in being honest and candid about these things. " I think that's the problem though. People expect to say that it's their preference and that's the end of it, regardless of whether they're using that word as a kop out. Maybe it's not everyone, but if they're allowed to make gross generalisations then so can I. | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔" No, you just opened Pandoras big box of preferences | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 No, you just opened Pandoras big box of preferences " Letting out all the preferences except politics, which is trapped in the box like hope? 🤣 | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 For some it's a healthy preference and for others it's something grosse. Nothing wrong in being honest and candid about these things. I think that's the problem though. People expect to say that it's their preference and that's the end of it, regardless of whether they're using that word as a kop out. Maybe it's not everyone, but if they're allowed to make gross generalisations then so can I." I think that people use the word preference because they don’t want to do the work about unpicking where those come from and what they’re based in. It’s much easier and nicer to just sweep it all under the preferential rug than clean up properly | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 For some it's a healthy preference and for others it's something grosse. Nothing wrong in being honest and candid about these things. I think that's the problem though. People expect to say that it's their preference and that's the end of it, regardless of whether they're using that word as a kop out. Maybe it's not everyone, but if they're allowed to make gross generalisations then so can I." Oh I see. Well no, people tend to shut things down when they don't the skills to articulate a point or argument. I'm not trying to insult anyone. | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 No, you just opened Pandoras big box of preferences Letting out all the preferences except politics, which is trapped in the box like hope? 🤣" There is no hope here | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 For some it's a healthy preference and for others it's something grosse. Nothing wrong in being honest and candid about these things. I think that's the problem though. People expect to say that it's their preference and that's the end of it, regardless of whether they're using that word as a kop out. Maybe it's not everyone, but if they're allowed to make gross generalisations then so can I. I think that people use the word preference because they don’t want to do the work about unpicking where those come from and what they’re based in. It’s much easier and nicer to just sweep it all under the preferential rug than clean up properly " Yes. It conflates two things for me. One, anyone can agree or refuse to have sex with anyone for any reason they like. And two, some of those reasons are gross. No one is going to override the first one, that's sacrosanct. But it can still be gross. | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 For some it's a healthy preference and for others it's something grosse. Nothing wrong in being honest and candid about these things. I think that's the problem though. People expect to say that it's their preference and that's the end of it, regardless of whether they're using that word as a kop out. Maybe it's not everyone, but if they're allowed to make gross generalisations then so can I. I think that people use the word preference because they don’t want to do the work about unpicking where those come from and what they’re based in. It’s much easier and nicer to just sweep it all under the preferential rug than clean up properly Yes. It conflates two things for me. One, anyone can agree or refuse to have sex with anyone for any reason they like. And two, some of those reasons are gross. No one is going to override the first one, that's sacrosanct. But it can still be gross." I think you've pretty much nailed it. People can have sex with whomever they choose introspection into why that's their choice can never be a bad thing. | |||
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"This is more of an observation which has me curious to know why so many women prefer black men in here, but I very rarely see mixed couples in reality? " We play with both black and white men, although I have never had a relationship with a black man. We find the attitude of black men much more chilled and they tend to approach us more than white men. In our experience, the black men have had more confidence, are super respectful but once it's done they're done i.e no trying to get a repeat meet or FWB arrangement. We have had some great white guys as well though | |||
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"Because of a racist idea of hypersexuality and the whole myth of BBC." Spot on and I'd add how boring typical British men and women live in reality So they create Fantasyland and fetishland that few will ever break and actually live in. | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 For some it's a healthy preference and for others it's something grosse. Nothing wrong in being honest and candid about these things. I think that's the problem though. People expect to say that it's their preference and that's the end of it, regardless of whether they're using that word as a kop out. Maybe it's not everyone, but if they're allowed to make gross generalisations then so can I. I think that people use the word preference because they don’t want to do the work about unpicking where those come from and what they’re based in. It’s much easier and nicer to just sweep it all under the preferential rug than clean up properly Yes. It conflates two things for me. One, anyone can agree or refuse to have sex with anyone for any reason they like. And two, some of those reasons are gross. No one is going to override the first one, that's sacrosanct. But it can still be gross. I think you've pretty much nailed it. People can have sex with whomever they choose introspection into why that's their choice can never be a bad thing." I don't think it's as simple as being put. A specific question was asked and even by the way the question was put (don't take offence OP), you can tell that they don't know the historical narrative behind this. It's not that I'm saying that every white person who has sex with a non white person, is carrying out some twisted fetish. But some are, thankfully you can spot those people a mile off! And of course those who do entertain them, that's their business because they know what they are walking in to. | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 For some it's a healthy preference and for others it's something grosse. Nothing wrong in being honest and candid about these things. I think that's the problem though. People expect to say that it's their preference and that's the end of it, regardless of whether they're using that word as a kop out. Maybe it's not everyone, but if they're allowed to make gross generalisations then so can I. I think that people use the word preference because they don’t want to do the work about unpicking where those come from and what they’re based in. It’s much easier and nicer to just sweep it all under the preferential rug than clean up properly Yes. It conflates two things for me. One, anyone can agree or refuse to have sex with anyone for any reason they like. And two, some of those reasons are gross. No one is going to override the first one, that's sacrosanct. But it can still be gross. I think you've pretty much nailed it. People can have sex with whomever they choose introspection into why that's their choice can never be a bad thing. I don't think it's as simple as being put. A specific question was asked and even by the way the question was put (don't take offence OP), you can tell that they don't know the historical narrative behind this. It's not that I'm saying that every white person who has sex with a non white person, is carrying out some twisted fetish. But some are, thankfully you can spot those people a mile off! And of course those who do entertain them, that's their business because they know what they are walking in to. " I'm speaking to the broader idea that "preference is sacrosanct", rather than saying that all people who prefer darker skin tones have gross beliefs (consciously or subconsciously). | |||
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"This is more of an observation which has me curious to know why so many women prefer black men in here, but I very rarely see mixed couples in reality? We play with both black and white men, although I have never had a relationship with a black man. We find the attitude of black men much more chilled and they tend to approach us more than white men. In our experience, the black men have had more confidence, are super respectful but once it's done they're done i.e no trying to get a repeat meet or FWB arrangement. We have had some great white guys as well though "To be clear, I've not dated a black man but that's not to say I wouldn't. We don't look specifically for black guys but they tend to find us. | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 For some it's a healthy preference and for others it's something grosse. Nothing wrong in being honest and candid about these things. I think that's the problem though. People expect to say that it's their preference and that's the end of it, regardless of whether they're using that word as a kop out. Maybe it's not everyone, but if they're allowed to make gross generalisations then so can I. I think that people use the word preference because they don’t want to do the work about unpicking where those come from and what they’re based in. It’s much easier and nicer to just sweep it all under the preferential rug than clean up properly Yes. It conflates two things for me. One, anyone can agree or refuse to have sex with anyone for any reason they like. And two, some of those reasons are gross. No one is going to override the first one, that's sacrosanct. But it can still be gross. I think you've pretty much nailed it. People can have sex with whomever they choose introspection into why that's their choice can never be a bad thing. I don't think it's as simple as being put. A specific question was asked and even by the way the question was put (don't take offence OP), you can tell that they don't know the historical narrative behind this. It's not that I'm saying that every white person who has sex with a non white person, is carrying out some twisted fetish. But some are, thankfully you can spot those people a mile off! And of course those who do entertain them, that's their business because they know what they are walking in to. I'm speaking to the broader idea that "preference is sacrosanct", rather than saying that all people who prefer darker skin tones have gross beliefs (consciously or subconsciously)." I understand that. But if that preference is based on racism then it has to be challenged. Someone couldn't say to me 'I want to have sex with you because I've heard abc about being with black women' and I'm going to say, well because it's your preference, that's fine. No. Just no. So unless I'm misunderstanding your response. Saying someone is your preference is fine, following it up with some BS as to why is going to cause problems. | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 For some it's a healthy preference and for others it's something grosse. Nothing wrong in being honest and candid about these things. I think that's the problem though. People expect to say that it's their preference and that's the end of it, regardless of whether they're using that word as a kop out. Maybe it's not everyone, but if they're allowed to make gross generalisations then so can I. I think that people use the word preference because they don’t want to do the work about unpicking where those come from and what they’re based in. It’s much easier and nicer to just sweep it all under the preferential rug than clean up properly Yes. It conflates two things for me. One, anyone can agree or refuse to have sex with anyone for any reason they like. And two, some of those reasons are gross. No one is going to override the first one, that's sacrosanct. But it can still be gross. I think you've pretty much nailed it. People can have sex with whomever they choose introspection into why that's their choice can never be a bad thing. I don't think it's as simple as being put. A specific question was asked and even by the way the question was put (don't take offence OP), you can tell that they don't know the historical narrative behind this. It's not that I'm saying that every white person who has sex with a non white person, is carrying out some twisted fetish. But some are, thankfully you can spot those people a mile off! And of course those who do entertain them, that's their business because they know what they are walking in to. I'm speaking to the broader idea that "preference is sacrosanct", rather than saying that all people who prefer darker skin tones have gross beliefs (consciously or subconsciously). I understand that. But if that preference is based on racism then it has to be challenged. Someone couldn't say to me 'I want to have sex with you because I've heard abc about being with black women' and I'm going to say, well because it's your preference, that's fine. No. Just no. So unless I'm misunderstanding your response. Saying someone is your preference is fine, following it up with some BS as to why is going to cause problems. " I think we're on the same page. | |||
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"No one will want to know the truth but let the truth be told. like setting your preferences for anything say for example on a dating website, music whatever! That’s the truth. I’m mixed and am not triggered by someone’s else’s preferences I find it cute but far from sexy as a straight male may view a gay relationship I.e not interested just my opinion that’s all" Not interested in them sexually * | |||
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"This is more of an observation which has me curious to know why so many women prefer black men in here, but I very rarely see mixed couples in reality? " Is it "so many" or is a minority compared to the amount of women who don't have a preference towards race or those who don't like black men? Why is it a consistent thing on here of white men complaining that some women on here like black men. It's so weird. Its a preference and it doesn't affect you so don't worry about it. | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔" Tbf some people do have a genuine preference towards black men without it being weird. It's the ones who call themselves the queen of spades and shout about BBC are the weird ones | |||
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"But in reality no body really is black " Michael Jackson was until he became beige. Shamown! Heehee! | |||
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"Only meet Black guys on here but never dated one. 🚩" All the red flags.... | |||
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"This is more of an observation which has me curious to know why so many women prefer black men in here, but I very rarely see mixed couples in reality? Is it "so many" or is a minority compared to the amount of women who don't have a preference towards race or those who don't like black men? Why is it a consistent thing on here of white men complaining that some women on here like black men. It's so weird. Its a preference and it doesn't affect you so don't worry about it. " There’s lots of reasons I imagine why White men are upset about or interested in White women sleeping with Black men, on here and in wider society; all of the reasons are to do with racism. | |||
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"Are people of colour, who state they would like to meet white playmates doing so because of racial undertones and do they need to examine the historical aspects of this. Or are they just choosing to exercise a preference? Mrs x" I used to only meet white men on here simply because I barely know any in real life so there was less chance of me accidently meeting someone that I knew. That was the only reason, but I can't speak for the whole of the black community who choose to only meet white play friends | |||
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"This is more of an observation which has me curious to know why so many women prefer black men in here, but I very rarely see mixed couples in reality? Is it "so many" or is a minority compared to the amount of women who don't have a preference towards race or those who don't like black men? Why is it a consistent thing on here of white men complaining that some women on here like black men. It's so weird. Its a preference and it doesn't affect you so don't worry about it. There’s lots of reasons I imagine why White men are upset about or interested in White women sleeping with Black men, on here and in wider society; all of the reasons are to do with racism. " Absolutely I was having this convo with my friend Petals yesterday and she said she gets loads of white men asking her if she's ever had sex with a black guy. It's sooooooo weird | |||
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"Are people of colour, who state they would like to meet white playmates doing so because of racial undertones and do they need to examine the historical aspects of this. Or are they just choosing to exercise a preference? Mrs x" There’s definitely fantasies that exist that are problematic. I think that the most important thing to remember about the historical context around these racist myths or stereotypes is that they have happened and been used in oppression and to justify oppression. Calling a woman a silly woman might have sexist (and misogynistic) undertones in a way that calling someone a silly man doesn’t. Because of context | |||
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"This is more of an observation which has me curious to know why so many women prefer black men in here, but I very rarely see mixed couples in reality? Is it "so many" or is a minority compared to the amount of women who don't have a preference towards race or those who don't like black men? Why is it a consistent thing on here of white men complaining that some women on here like black men. It's so weird. Its a preference and it doesn't affect you so don't worry about it. There’s lots of reasons I imagine why White men are upset about or interested in White women sleeping with Black men, on here and in wider society; all of the reasons are to do with racism. Absolutely I was having this convo with my friend Petals yesterday and she said she gets loads of white men asking her if she's ever had sex with a black guy. It's sooooooo weird " Weird for sure! I’ve spoken to women who similarly have said White guys have asked them if they’ve been with Black men and don’t like it if they have. | |||
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"But in reality no body really is black Michael Jackson was until he became beige. Shamown! Heehee! " But still wasn't black, brown yes but nobody truly is black | |||
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"This is more of an observation which has me curious to know why so many women prefer black men in here, but I very rarely see mixed couples in reality? " Do they?  | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 For some it's a healthy preference and for others it's something grosse. Nothing wrong in being honest and candid about these things. I think that's the problem though. People expect to say that it's their preference and that's the end of it, regardless of whether they're using that word as a kop out. Maybe it's not everyone, but if they're allowed to make gross generalisations then so can I. I think that people use the word preference because they don’t want to do the work about unpicking where those come from and what they’re based in. It’s much easier and nicer to just sweep it all under the preferential rug than clean up properly Yes. It conflates two things for me. One, anyone can agree or refuse to have sex with anyone for any reason they like. And two, some of those reasons are gross. No one is going to override the first one, that's sacrosanct. But it can still be gross. I think you've pretty much nailed it. People can have sex with whomever they choose introspection into why that's their choice can never be a bad thing. I don't think it's as simple as being put. A specific question was asked and even by the way the question was put (don't take offence OP), you can tell that they don't know the historical narrative behind this. It's not that I'm saying that every white person who has sex with a non white person, is carrying out some twisted fetish. But some are, thankfully you can spot those people a mile off! And of course those who do entertain them, that's their business because they know what they are walking in to. I'm speaking to the broader idea that "preference is sacrosanct", rather than saying that all people who prefer darker skin tones have gross beliefs (consciously or subconsciously). I understand that. But if that preference is based on racism then it has to be challenged. Someone couldn't say to me 'I want to have sex with you because I've heard abc about being with black women' and I'm going to say, well because it's your preference, that's fine. No. Just no. So unless I'm misunderstanding your response. Saying someone is your preference is fine, following it up with some BS as to why is going to cause problems. I think we're on the same page." I don't think many will understand it. I pointed out to a friend who couldn't comprehend why it was insulting but he's a dr. Do I said you'd find it really silly and odd if someone said I always wanted to have sex with a B- blood type. I've only seen O+ around. Can I get a shot with you. You'd find it odd and preference wouldn't even be used. It is the Same context I can't change my skin or my race so for someone to simply specify I've always wanted to have sex with a black chic and apply no other characteristic, qualities attributes to me and simply indicate my skin. It's vile. SO yes ITS NOT a preference it's a stereotype that they are after. | |||
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"Oh no he did say that he would like to meet someone with nice personality ,that liked to have meals out etc,friendship first ,just the bit on end of profile that he preferred black women caused such a stir ,yet many women put same on profile " Same concept... | |||
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"Yes we all have different likes or dislikes ,few years ago I had a friend on here,a white guy,in his profile he stated that wanted black women only ,he got so many nasty messages from white women that he deleted account ," I truly think that some people hate the fact that we’re seen as attractive/ desirable. | |||
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"But also, it’s because Black men are fucking stunning. " Some are and some aren't. Like all races. Totally agree with you're red flag comment about white people who only meet black people off Fab but have never dated one in real life. I find that a little disturbing, as I would if the roles were reversed. | |||
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"Yes we all have different likes or dislikes ,few years ago I had a friend on here,a white guy,in his profile he stated that wanted black women only ,he got so many nasty messages from white women that he deleted account , I truly think that some people hate the fact that we’re seen as attractive/ desirable. " But like in most arguments there's an opposing view. Some people love the fact that there are those of different races that are attractive and desirable. On a personal level I don't think all black guys are attractive just like I don't think all white guys are. I think that it's similar to other aspects of life. Take food for example. If you have home cooked, chips and eggs at home, when you go out for something to eat you probably want something you don't have at home, so you may go Chinese, Indian, Italian etc. You want to change it up, have something different. Doesn't mean you don't like chips & egg anymore, just now and then you want something different. Variety is the spice of life after all. I do agree it would be weird to eat a different cuisine just because it was of a certain cuisine. You still must find the food tasty. If all interracial play is based upon some form of racism then I find that sad. Does it mean all interracial relationships are based upon the same premise. I think it would be sad if mixed race kids grew up like that, that would be awful. I hope that people find people fun or sexy, even if you choose to play with someone outside of your race. So long as that choice is not motivated through hate. Mrs x | |||
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"Yes we all have different likes or dislikes ,few years ago I had a friend on here,a white guy,in his profile he stated that wanted black women only ,he got so many nasty messages from white women that he deleted account , I truly think that some people hate the fact that we’re seen as attractive/ desirable. But like in most arguments there's an opposing view. Some people love the fact that there are those of different races that are attractive and desirable. On a personal level I don't think all black guys are attractive just like I don't think all white guys are. I think that it's similar to other aspects of life. Take food for example. If you have home cooked, chips and eggs at home, when you go out for something to eat you probably want something you don't have at home, so you may go Chinese, Indian, Italian etc. You want to change it up, have something different. Doesn't mean you don't like chips & egg anymore, just now and then you want something different. Variety is the spice of life after all. I do agree it would be weird to eat a different cuisine just because it was of a certain cuisine. You still must find the food tasty. If all interracial play is based upon some form of racism then I find that sad. Does it mean all interracial relationships are based upon the same premise. I think it would be sad if mixed race kids grew up like that, that would be awful. I hope that people find people fun or sexy, even if you choose to play with someone outside of your race. So long as that choice is not motivated through hate. Mrs x" My response was just related to the poster describing his friend’s experience. I believe many people feel that way. That’s why they complain about it, ask partners if they’ve slept with black people etc. | |||
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"Yes we all have different likes or dislikes ,few years ago I had a friend on here,a white guy,in his profile he stated that wanted black women only ,he got so many nasty messages from white women that he deleted account , I truly think that some people hate the fact that we’re seen as attractive/ desirable. But like in most arguments there's an opposing view. Some people love the fact that there are those of different races that are attractive and desirable. On a personal level I don't think all black guys are attractive just like I don't think all white guys are. I think that it's similar to other aspects of life. Take food for example. If you have home cooked, chips and eggs at home, when you go out for something to eat you probably want something you don't have at home, so you may go Chinese, Indian, Italian etc. You want to change it up, have something different. Doesn't mean you don't like chips & egg anymore, just now and then you want something different. Variety is the spice of life after all. I do agree it would be weird to eat a different cuisine just because it was of a certain cuisine. You still must find the food tasty. If all interracial play is based upon some form of racism then I find that sad. Does it mean all interracial relationships are based upon the same premise. I think it would be sad if mixed race kids grew up like that, that would be awful. I hope that people find people fun or sexy, even if you choose to play with someone outside of your race. So long as that choice is not motivated through hate. Mrs x My response was just related to the poster describing his friend’s experience. I believe many people feel that way. That’s why they complain about it, ask partners if they’ve slept with black people etc. " I'm sure there are twisted fucks who have such agendas but I'm much more hopefully that the majority don't base their attraction on racism. I would hate to find out that the black guys who I've met only did so because of racist overtones. On here, I find this difficult to believe because it seems a daft way to express racism by sharing one of the most physically enjoyable experience with someone you despise racially. That principle doesn't seem to match up with the description of racism I was brought up with. I think it's the absence of hate that's an issue. So if you are going to meet up, have a fantastic time with each other, without abuse, violence, sexual assault etc then is it borne of racism just because you want to meet up with someone of a different race. I still believe you have to be attracted to the individual. I think the absence of hate is the big thing here, that only leaves love and surely that's a good thing. Mrs x | |||
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"Yes we all have different likes or dislikes ,few years ago I had a friend on here,a white guy,in his profile he stated that wanted black women only ,he got so many nasty messages from white women that he deleted account , I truly think that some people hate the fact that we’re seen as attractive/ desirable. But like in most arguments there's an opposing view. Some people love the fact that there are those of different races that are attractive and desirable. On a personal level I don't think all black guys are attractive just like I don't think all white guys are. I think that it's similar to other aspects of life. Take food for example. If you have home cooked, chips and eggs at home, when you go out for something to eat you probably want something you don't have at home, so you may go Chinese, Indian, Italian etc. You want to change it up, have something different. Doesn't mean you don't like chips & egg anymore, just now and then you want something different. Variety is the spice of life after all. I do agree it would be weird to eat a different cuisine just because it was of a certain cuisine. You still must find the food tasty. If all interracial play is based upon some form of racism then I find that sad. Does it mean all interracial relationships are based upon the same premise. I think it would be sad if mixed race kids grew up like that, that would be awful. I hope that people find people fun or sexy, even if you choose to play with someone outside of your race. So long as that choice is not motivated through hate. Mrs x My response was just related to the poster describing his friend’s experience. I believe many people feel that way. That’s why they complain about it, ask partners if they’ve slept with black people etc. I'm sure there are twisted fucks who have such agendas but I'm much more hopefully that the majority don't base their attraction on racism. I would hate to find out that the black guys who I've met only did so because of racist overtones. On here, I find this difficult to believe because it seems a daft way to express racism by sharing one of the most physically enjoyable experience with someone you despise racially. That principle doesn't seem to match up with the description of racism I was brought up with. I think it's the absence of hate that's an issue. So if you are going to meet up, have a fantastic time with each other, without abuse, violence, sexual assault etc then is it borne of racism just because you want to meet up with someone of a different race. I still believe you have to be attracted to the individual. I think the absence of hate is the big thing here, that only leaves love and surely that's a good thing. Mrs x" Racism isn’t just about consciously hating people. It’s also in the reproduction of racist myths. And in Stereotypes (even if they seem positive). These stereotypes have historically been used to justify brutalising us. But yeah. I hear what you’re saying it’s nice that you’re hopeful. Given my experiences with racism, I’m less hopeful. | |||
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"Yes we all have different likes or dislikes ,few years ago I had a friend on here,a white guy,in his profile he stated that wanted black women only ,he got so many nasty messages from white women that he deleted account , I truly think that some people hate the fact that we’re seen as attractive/ desirable. But like in most arguments there's an opposing view. Some people love the fact that there are those of different races that are attractive and desirable. On a personal level I don't think all black guys are attractive just like I don't think all white guys are. I think that it's similar to other aspects of life. Take food for example. If you have home cooked, chips and eggs at home, when you go out for something to eat you probably want something you don't have at home, so you may go Chinese, Indian, Italian etc. You want to change it up, have something different. Doesn't mean you don't like chips & egg anymore, just now and then you want something different. Variety is the spice of life after all. I do agree it would be weird to eat a different cuisine just because it was of a certain cuisine. You still must find the food tasty. If all interracial play is based upon some form of racism then I find that sad. Does it mean all interracial relationships are based upon the same premise. I think it would be sad if mixed race kids grew up like that, that would be awful. I hope that people find people fun or sexy, even if you choose to play with someone outside of your race. So long as that choice is not motivated through hate. Mrs x My response was just related to the poster describing his friend’s experience. I believe many people feel that way. That’s why they complain about it, ask partners if they’ve slept with black people etc. I'm sure there are twisted fucks who have such agendas but I'm much more hopefully that the majority don't base their attraction on racism. I would hate to find out that the black guys who I've met only did so because of racist overtones. On here, I find this difficult to believe because it seems a daft way to express racism by sharing one of the most physically enjoyable experience with someone you despise racially. That principle doesn't seem to match up with the description of racism I was brought up with. I think it's the absence of hate that's an issue. So if you are going to meet up, have a fantastic time with each other, without abuse, violence, sexual assault etc then is it borne of racism just because you want to meet up with someone of a different race. I still believe you have to be attracted to the individual. I think the absence of hate is the big thing here, that only leaves love and surely that's a good thing. Mrs x Racism isn’t just about consciously hating people. It’s also in the reproduction of racist myths. And in Stereotypes (even if they seem positive). These stereotypes have historically been used to justify brutalising us. But yeah. I hear what you’re saying it’s nice that you’re hopeful. Given my experiences with racism, I’m less hopeful. " These stereotypes being racist I too believe to be true. However I think it's ridiculous to base your criteria for finding a meet based upon such notions. All stereotypes are ridiculous, the French are not all wonderful lovers, not all Italian cuisine is gorgeous, go to Florence I dare you to eat a Lampredotta, not all Asians are good at Math and the English can cook, I can't but I'm sure some can. So with all the pics, videos and verifications on here I'm sure most people don't rely on stereotypes to pick their meets. I will say that stereotypes are used by some, on their own profiles when advertising themselves. Maybe they'd benefit from stopping this practice. Mrs x | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 For some it's a healthy preference and for others it's something grosse. Nothing wrong in being honest and candid about these things. I think that's the problem though. People expect to say that it's their preference and that's the end of it, regardless of whether they're using that word as a kop out. Maybe it's not everyone, but if they're allowed to make gross generalisations then so can I. I think that people use the word preference because they don’t want to do the work about unpicking where those come from and what they’re based in. It’s much easier and nicer to just sweep it all under the preferential rug than clean up properly Yes. It conflates two things for me. One, anyone can agree or refuse to have sex with anyone for any reason they like. And two, some of those reasons are gross. No one is going to override the first one, that's sacrosanct. But it can still be gross. I think you've pretty much nailed it. People can have sex with whomever they choose introspection into why that's their choice can never be a bad thing. I don't think it's as simple as being put. A specific question was asked and even by the way the question was put (don't take offence OP), you can tell that they don't know the historical narrative behind this. It's not that I'm saying that every white person who has sex with a non white person, is carrying out some twisted fetish. But some are, thankfully you can spot those people a mile off! And of course those who do entertain them, that's their business because they know what they are walking in to. I'm speaking to the broader idea that "preference is sacrosanct", rather than saying that all people who prefer darker skin tones have gross beliefs (consciously or subconsciously). I understand that. But if that preference is based on racism then it has to be challenged. Someone couldn't say to me 'I want to have sex with you because I've heard abc about being with black women' and I'm going to say, well because it's your preference, that's fine. No. Just no. So unless I'm misunderstanding your response. Saying someone is your preference is fine, following it up with some BS as to why is going to cause problems. I think we're on the same page." Awesome | |||
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"Because it's a preference OP! Now I've thrown that word out, does that shut the further topic of discussion of where those preferences come from? 🤔 Tbf some people do have a genuine preference towards black men without it being weird. It's the ones who call themselves the queen of spades and shout about BBC are the weird ones " LOL!! I agree, that is weird!! | |||
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"I wonder how many white women will stop meeting black men for fear of being accused of racism? Is this some kind of reverse psychology?" Poor souls. | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question." So you cannot have a preference without feeling ashamed? Why is that and does it only apply to sexual preferences? Mrs x | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question.So you cannot have a preference without feeling ashamed? Why is that and does it only apply to sexual preferences? Mrs x" That’s not what he said. | |||
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"This is more of an observation which has me curious to know why so many women prefer black men in here, but I very rarely see mixed couples in reality? " I always wondered until I watched her friends husband and brother fucking her | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question.So you cannot have a preference without feeling ashamed? Why is that and does it only apply to sexual preferences? Mrs x" Ashamed or don’t know why. I like olives & I’m not ashamed to admit I have no idea why and I have no interest in discovering why | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question.So you cannot have a preference without feeling ashamed? Why is that and does it only apply to sexual preferences? Mrs x Ashamed or don’t know why. I like olives & I’m not ashamed to admit I have no idea why and I have no interest in discovering why" Not quite the same thing though, is it. Whether you like olives, dislike olives or shout abuse at olives in the street, that doesn’t affect anyone other than yourself | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question. Preference is the perfect answer as no one has to justify their choice of sexual partner to anyone else. It all reeks of jealousy from some, a bit like the many “why won’t someone meet me” posts we see." You’re right they don’t have to justify it and anyone should be able to say no to anyone and not have to give any reason whatsoever. But if people are trying to debate and understand an issue and saying ‘because I can’ Or ‘preferences’, Comes across to me as being extremely defensive like they do have something to hide. Better for that person to simply not engage in the debate | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question. Preference is the perfect answer as no one has to justify their choice of sexual partner to anyone else. It all reeks of jealousy from some, a bit like the many “why won’t someone meet me” posts we see." Yes. That’s what we’ve been saying. White people that care so much about why people meet Black people are.. well But also, I’ve spoken to many white women whose reasons for being interested in me are just based on racist stereotypes. We’re so strong. We’re so masculine. We’re hypersexual. All that shit. People on here are so used to people not questioning them that they take issue with a Black man or woman saying that they won’t meet people that fetishise them and only people that like them for who they genuinely are. They’re insecure. If you know you’re not a racist or your preferences aren’t based on racism, you have nothing to worry about. | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question.So you cannot have a preference without feeling ashamed? Why is that and does it only apply to sexual preferences? Mrs x Ashamed or don’t know why. I like olives & I’m not ashamed to admit I have no idea why and I have no interest in discovering why" So why have the duality in the question? So if you can't say why the only other option is shame? It's perfectly acceptable to not know why you prefer something. That's not a cop out, it's just a preference. It's also not logical. You only have to go dress shopping with your partner to witness this. Why one dress is preferable to other similar, equally beautiful dresses, can be a mystery but it's definitely 'the one". Mrs x | |||
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"This is more of an observation which has me curious to know why so many women prefer black men in here, but I very rarely see mixed couples in reality? " Because swinging is a lot about fulfilling fantasies. Most women on Fab don’t want an ugly 5” noodle tucked under a beer belly belonging to a hairy backed, scrawny legged bedsit dweller with skin that never sees sunlight. They want fantasy fucks and buff gym lads, silver foxes, black guys, tanned Adonis’s, good looking guys with massive swinging dicks, younger, older, men in uniform, tradies, chav lads, fire-fighters… they are fantasy fucks… As much as there are woman that like fucking Black men for many reasons, there are also those that don’t want to fuck them, they want to fuck other types of guys.. Now maybe you are wondering why they don’t want to fuck you… (maybe this is really the reason why you were prompted to post this subject?) Have you got any attributes that make you a desirable fantasy guy or somehow ‘fuckable’? Does your profile show that? Fab is not a dating site! It’s a site where people get to hook up and have sex with other people that they are attracted to sexually, maybe even fetishise but not necessarily someone they would want to have a relationship with… That leaves a lot of guys left with hopeful profiles on Fab that don’t get any attention at all because they have shit profiles they don’t put any effort into or are just not ‘Fab Fuckable’ or don’t understand the concept and lack self-awareness (“I’ll just pop a picture of me in my underpants on there and maybe a really ugly thoughtless snap of my dick over a dirty toilet while I’ve got my trousers down… that’ll have them come running” ) . The couples on here are usually in solid relationships, they love each other and are indulging in an extra-marital fantasy sex life. Maybe the wife has a thing for fucking ugly fat blokes with tiny dicks, who knows? maybe they just like random encounters in car parks… There’s all sorts on here. A lot of women (and men) fantasise about something they don’t have in their marriage or just want to add some excitement to their sex lives. Fab allows them to indulge those fantasies- if that’s BBC… so be it. If it’s gang-banging squaddies, sucking off young Asian guys or wanting a handsome Dom to cuckold their husband.. whatever. That’s what they want and that’s what they’re looking for, they’re called ‘Preferences’ and we’re all allowed to have them. You don’t get a say in the matter, you might not like it and feel excluded but that’s just tough shit mate, try another website if you’re just looking for sex or maybe pay for a pro, that’s always an option. | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question.So you cannot have a preference without feeling ashamed? Why is that and does it only apply to sexual preferences? Mrs x Ashamed or don’t know why. I like olives & I’m not ashamed to admit I have no idea why and I have no interest in discovering why Not quite the same thing though, is it. Whether you like olives, dislike olives or shout abuse at olives in the street, that doesn’t affect anyone other than yourself " I think you missed the point. The point was that it’s a preference and I don’t know why I have it. Keep up | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question. Preference is the perfect answer as no one has to justify their choice of sexual partner to anyone else. It all reeks of jealousy from some, a bit like the many “why won’t someone meet me” posts we see. Yes. That’s what we’ve been saying. White people that care so much about why people meet Black people are.. well But also, I’ve spoken to many white women whose reasons for being interested in me are just based on racist stereotypes. We’re so strong. We’re so masculine. We’re hypersexual. All that shit. People on here are so used to people not questioning them that they take issue with a Black man or woman saying that they won’t meet people that fetishise them and only people that like them for who they genuinely are. They’re insecure. If you know you’re not a racist or your preferences aren’t based on racism, you have nothing to worry about. " I believe this is a thing, you have said its happened to you and it's back to the stereotyping. Just like to get you're thoughts on this. Do black guys fetishise white woman in a similar way at all? Are there stereotypes in this regard? Is it true that there is animosity towards black guys that seek out white woman? Is this a thing at all? Mrs x | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question.So you cannot have a preference without feeling ashamed? Why is that and does it only apply to sexual preferences? Mrs x Ashamed or don’t know why. I like olives & I’m not ashamed to admit I have no idea why and I have no interest in discovering why Not quite the same thing though, is it. Whether you like olives, dislike olives or shout abuse at olives in the street, that doesn’t affect anyone other than yourself I think you missed the point. The point was that it’s a preference and I don’t know why I have it. Keep up " "I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. I must have misread your first paragraph then. But certainly looks like you feel it's a 'cop out" for people to think of things as preferences because they are too ashamed.... or don't understand. Hope I've caught up, Mrs x | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question. Preference is the perfect answer as no one has to justify their choice of sexual partner to anyone else. It all reeks of jealousy from some, a bit like the many “why won’t someone meet me” posts we see. Yes. That’s what we’ve been saying. White people that care so much about why people meet Black people are.. well But also, I’ve spoken to many white women whose reasons for being interested in me are just based on racist stereotypes. We’re so strong. We’re so masculine. We’re hypersexual. All that shit. People on here are so used to people not questioning them that they take issue with a Black man or woman saying that they won’t meet people that fetishise them and only people that like them for who they genuinely are. They’re insecure. If you know you’re not a racist or your preferences aren’t based on racism, you have nothing to worry about. I believe this is a thing, you have said its happened to you and it's back to the stereotyping. Just like to get you're thoughts on this. Do black guys fetishise white woman in a similar way at all? Are there stereotypes in this regard? Is it true that there is animosity towards black guys that seek out white woman? Is this a thing at all? Mrs x" There are definitely other similar racial/physical paired stereotypes typically from guys but they are too scared to talk about them on here. I guess the women openly asking for BBC are in a position of power where they don’t really give a fuck they can get lots of guys and so able to prioritise their fantasies openly. | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question. Preference is the perfect answer as no one has to justify their choice of sexual partner to anyone else. It all reeks of jealousy from some, a bit like the many “why won’t someone meet me” posts we see. Yes. That’s what we’ve been saying. White people that care so much about why people meet Black people are.. well But also, I’ve spoken to many white women whose reasons for being interested in me are just based on racist stereotypes. We’re so strong. We’re so masculine. We’re hypersexual. All that shit. People on here are so used to people not questioning them that they take issue with a Black man or woman saying that they won’t meet people that fetishise them and only people that like them for who they genuinely are. They’re insecure. If you know you’re not a racist or your preferences aren’t based on racism, you have nothing to worry about. I believe this is a thing, you have said its happened to you and it's back to the stereotyping. Just like to get you're thoughts on this. Do black guys fetishise white woman in a similar way at all? Are there stereotypes in this regard? Is it true that there is animosity towards black guys that seek out white woman? Is this a thing at all? Mrs x" I think there’s fetishisation that occurs the other way definitely. I think it doesn’t have the same historical context. But it’s complex. The relationship with Black men and white women has been complex but ultimately much of the power in many societies belonged to the white women. But there are for sure sexist and misogynistic ideas about white women’s femininity for example. These are also often placed, I find, in contrast to the femininity of Black women and excluding Black women from traditional western ideas of femininity. So yeah it goes both ways. It’s gross. It’s complex. I don’t like it either. Especially as someone raised by Black people, I love Black women, I personally don’t get not loving Black women. In terms of your question about animosity- yeah of course there is. I have a white fiancé and I have seen from other Black people that they don’t agree with it or like it. It’s not nice. But I don’t get mad at them. I understand what they feel even if I disagree. But it is what it is. I think again it has to be placed in context. And some of that context could be the fact that Black women are seen as undesirable in society and it can be hard to feel that rejection coming from men of your own race. Especially when it is based on white supremacist and racist myths about beauty and femininity etc. | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question. Preference is the perfect answer as no one has to justify their choice of sexual partner to anyone else. It all reeks of jealousy from some, a bit like the many “why won’t someone meet me” posts we see. Yes. That’s what we’ve been saying. White people that care so much about why people meet Black people are.. well But also, I’ve spoken to many white women whose reasons for being interested in me are just based on racist stereotypes. We’re so strong. We’re so masculine. We’re hypersexual. All that shit. People on here are so used to people not questioning them that they take issue with a Black man or woman saying that they won’t meet people that fetishise them and only people that like them for who they genuinely are. They’re insecure. If you know you’re not a racist or your preferences aren’t based on racism, you have nothing to worry about. I believe this is a thing, you have said its happened to you and it's back to the stereotyping. Just like to get you're thoughts on this. Do black guys fetishise white woman in a similar way at all? Are there stereotypes in this regard? Is it true that there is animosity towards black guys that seek out white woman? Is this a thing at all? Mrs x I think there’s fetishisation that occurs the other way definitely. I think it doesn’t have the same historical context. But it’s complex. The relationship with Black men and white women has been complex but ultimately much of the power in many societies belonged to the white women. But there are for sure sexist and misogynistic ideas about white women’s femininity for example. These are also often placed, I find, in contrast to the femininity of Black women and excluding Black women from traditional western ideas of femininity. So yeah it goes both ways. It’s gross. It’s complex. I don’t like it either. Especially as someone raised by Black people, I love Black women, I personally don’t get not loving Black women. In terms of your question about animosity- yeah of course there is. I have a white fiancé and I have seen from other Black people that they don’t agree with it or like it. It’s not nice. But I don’t get mad at them. I understand what they feel even if I disagree. But it is what it is. I think again it has to be placed in context. And some of that context could be the fact that Black women are seen as undesirable in society and it can be hard to feel that rejection coming from men of your own race. Especially when it is based on white supremacist and racist myths about beauty and femininity etc. " My opinion ofc I’m not speaking for everyone. | |||
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"I’m starting to think preferences or ‘because I can’ is just a copout for those people too ashamed to say why, or don’t understand why themselves. There are reasons for why we like what we like. Saying preferences just avoids answering the question. Preference is the perfect answer as no one has to justify their choice of sexual partner to anyone else. It all reeks of jealousy from some, a bit like the many “why won’t someone meet me” posts we see. Yes. That’s what we’ve been saying. White people that care so much about why people meet Black people are.. well But also, I’ve spoken to many white women whose reasons for being interested in me are just based on racist stereotypes. We’re so strong. We’re so masculine. We’re hypersexual. All that shit. People on here are so used to people not questioning them that they take issue with a Black man or woman saying that they won’t meet people that fetishise them and only people that like them for who they genuinely are. They’re insecure. If you know you’re not a racist or your preferences aren’t based on racism, you have nothing to worry about. I believe this is a thing, you have said its happened to you and it's back to the stereotyping. Just like to get you're thoughts on this. Do black guys fetishise white woman in a similar way at all? Are there stereotypes in this regard? Is it true that there is animosity towards black guys that seek out white woman? Is this a thing at all? Mrs x I think there’s fetishisation that occurs the other way definitely. I think it doesn’t have the same historical context. But it’s complex. The relationship with Black men and white women has been complex but ultimately much of the power in many societies belonged to the white women. But there are for sure sexist and misogynistic ideas about white women’s femininity for example. These are also often placed, I find, in contrast to the femininity of Black women and excluding Black women from traditional western ideas of femininity. So yeah it goes both ways. It’s gross. It’s complex. I don’t like it either. Especially as someone raised by Black people, I love Black women, I personally don’t get not loving Black women. In terms of your question about animosity- yeah of course there is. I have a white fiancé and I have seen from other Black people that they don’t agree with it or like it. It’s not nice. But I don’t get mad at them. I understand what they feel even if I disagree. But it is what it is. I think again it has to be placed in context. And some of that context could be the fact that Black women are seen as undesirable in society and it can be hard to feel that rejection coming from men of your own race. Especially when it is based on white supremacist and racist myths about beauty and femininity etc. " But your saying historical context, how long ago are we talking? Is this relevant to people who have no knowledge of history regarding this? And from a personal point of view, did you choose to embark on an interracial relationship because of the historical context or in spite of it? Or did you just grow to love a person who just happens to come from a different race? I already suspect I know the answer, given that we don't agree often I know you seem like a nice guy, who doesn't spout hate and so I believe it's all about the love. I'm just saying I believe that history should never be forgotten but it shouldn't be used to continue saying things are a certain way unless they objectively are. Falling in love, sharing moments of passion and intimacy with others who are different from yourselves does not seem to qualify as racism. These acts are not hateful, unlike all the abhorrent stuff committed over the last few weeks. This is more to do with love than hate, whether for one night or one lifetime. This should be encouraged not frowned up. Mrs x | |||
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"Yes we all have different likes or dislikes ,few years ago I had a friend on here,a white guy,in his profile he stated that wanted black women only ,he got so many nasty messages from white women that he deleted account , I truly think that some people hate the fact that we’re seen as attractive/ desirable. But like in most arguments there's an opposing view. Some people love the fact that there are those of different races that are attractive and desirable. On a personal level I don't think all black guys are attractive just like I don't think all white guys are. I think that it's similar to other aspects of life. Take food for example. If you have home cooked, chips and eggs at home, when you go out for something to eat you probably want something you don't have at home, so you may go Chinese, Indian, Italian etc. You want to change it up, have something different. Doesn't mean you don't like chips & egg anymore, just now and then you want something different. Variety is the spice of life after all. I do agree it would be weird to eat a different cuisine just because it was of a certain cuisine. You still must find the food tasty. If all interracial play is based upon some form of racism then I find that sad. Does it mean all interracial relationships are based upon the same premise. I think it would be sad if mixed race kids grew up like that, that would be awful. I hope that people find people fun or sexy, even if you choose to play with someone outside of your race. So long as that choice is not motivated through hate. Mrs x My response was just related to the poster describing his friend’s experience. I believe many people feel that way. That’s why they complain about it, ask partners if they’ve slept with black people etc. I'm sure there are twisted fucks who have such agendas but I'm much more hopefully that the majority don't base their attraction on racism. I would hate to find out that the black guys who I've met only did so because of racist overtones. On here, I find this difficult to believe because it seems a daft way to express racism by sharing one of the most physically enjoyable experience with someone you despise racially. That principle doesn't seem to match up with the description of racism I was brought up with. I think it's the absence of hate that's an issue. So if you are going to meet up, have a fantastic time with each other, without abuse, violence, sexual assault etc then is it borne of racism just because you want to meet up with someone of a different race. I still believe you have to be attracted to the individual. I think the absence of hate is the big thing here, that only leaves love and surely that's a good thing. Mrs x White sl-ve masters used to r-pe and impregnant black sl-ves, so this isn't the argument that you think it is " So are you saying that because things happened in the past has something to do with why certain people are attracted to others today? Mrs x | |||
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"But your saying historical context, how long ago are we talking? Is this relevant to people who have no knowledge of history regarding this? And from a personal point of view, did you choose to embark on an interracial relationship because of the historical context or in spite of it? Or did you just grow to love a person who just happens to come from a different race? I already suspect I know the answer, given that we don't agree often I know you seem like a nice guy, who doesn't spout hate and so I believe it's all about the love. I'm just saying I believe that history should never be forgotten but it shouldn't be used to continue saying things are a certain way unless they objectively are. Falling in love, sharing moments of passion and intimacy with others who are different from yourselves does not seem to qualify as racism. These acts are not hateful, unlike all the abhorrent stuff committed over the last few weeks. This is more to do with love than hate, whether for one night or one lifetime. This should be encouraged not frowned up. Mrs x" Historical context will always be relevant. It has shaped how societies and people understand race and racism. It’s important to know and understand these things. We have to know why society has created perceptions and reproduced stereotypes and represented groups in certain ways over time. Black men as aggressive. Black women as angry. Black women as aggressive. Black men as hypersexual. And these stereotypes are centuries old and as fab proves time and time again- they’re still going around. Whether people do so intentionally or not is somewhat irrelevant because it is still happening. As for my partner- yeah of course love was what won. But I still find women of all races attractive. And I still am intimate with people of all different races. I hear what you’re saying but like I said, even if it’s not hateful, I am well within my rights to say, ew, I don’t like the reasons you have for finding me attractive and out of self respect, I’m going to step away. | |||
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"Yes we all have different likes or dislikes ,few years ago I had a friend on here,a white guy,in his profile he stated that wanted black women only ,he got so many nasty messages from white women that he deleted account , I truly think that some people hate the fact that we’re seen as attractive/ desirable. But like in most arguments there's an opposing view. Some people love the fact that there are those of different races that are attractive and desirable. On a personal level I don't think all black guys are attractive just like I don't think all white guys are. I think that it's similar to other aspects of life. Take food for example. If you have home cooked, chips and eggs at home, when you go out for something to eat you probably want something you don't have at home, so you may go Chinese, Indian, Italian etc. You want to change it up, have something different. Doesn't mean you don't like chips & egg anymore, just now and then you want something different. Variety is the spice of life after all. I do agree it would be weird to eat a different cuisine just because it was of a certain cuisine. You still must find the food tasty. If all interracial play is based upon some form of racism then I find that sad. Does it mean all interracial relationships are based upon the same premise. I think it would be sad if mixed race kids grew up like that, that would be awful. I hope that people find people fun or sexy, even if you choose to play with someone outside of your race. So long as that choice is not motivated through hate. Mrs x My response was just related to the poster describing his friend’s experience. I believe many people feel that way. That’s why they complain about it, ask partners if they’ve slept with black people etc. I'm sure there are twisted fucks who have such agendas but I'm much more hopefully that the majority don't base their attraction on racism. I would hate to find out that the black guys who I've met only did so because of racist overtones. On here, I find this difficult to believe because it seems a daft way to express racism by sharing one of the most physically enjoyable experience with someone you despise racially. That principle doesn't seem to match up with the description of racism I was brought up with. I think it's the absence of hate that's an issue. So if you are going to meet up, have a fantastic time with each other, without abuse, violence, sexual assault etc then is it borne of racism just because you want to meet up with someone of a different race. I still believe you have to be attracted to the individual. I think the absence of hate is the big thing here, that only leaves love and surely that's a good thing. Mrs x White sl-ve masters used to r-pe and impregnant black sl-ves, so this isn't the argument that you think it is So are you saying that because things happened in the past has something to do with why certain people are attracted to others today? Mrs x No it’s evidence that people can be vehemently against people having rights, they can be hateful and full of racism, and they can still engage in ‘sexual activity.’ Those stories from that period aren’t love stories they’re horrible stories of R***. By having sex with them? Yeah that’ll keep em down….
Are you disputing whether Sl*ve masters were racist or not because they r*aped their ‘property’?"Not at all. That is historical fact. I’m disputing that modern are using that history to suppress black men. But you knew that and tried to steer the conversation the other way. | |||
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist. | |||
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist. "‘I’m not racist my kids are mixed race’ - this doesn’t prove anything. And the example Tess gave is but one example of it | |||
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"I do think that it’s always rather ironic how it’s often white people telling others why there simply can’t be a racist basis for their ‘preference’. Just like it’s always straight people saying why something isn’t bigoted. If a person thinks that all black guys have huge cocks, that’s still a prejudice and if that’s why you want to meet them, then that’s fetishising someone " Amazingly, in here, this is hard to understand | |||
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"But your saying historical context, how long ago are we talking? Is this relevant to people who have no knowledge of history regarding this? And from a personal point of view, did you choose to embark on an interracial relationship because of the historical context or in spite of it? Or did you just grow to love a person who just happens to come from a different race? I already suspect I know the answer, given that we don't agree often I know you seem like a nice guy, who doesn't spout hate and so I believe it's all about the love. I'm just saying I believe that history should never be forgotten but it shouldn't be used to continue saying things are a certain way unless they objectively are. Falling in love, sharing moments of passion and intimacy with others who are different from yourselves does not seem to qualify as racism. These acts are not hateful, unlike all the abhorrent stuff committed over the last few weeks. This is more to do with love than hate, whether for one night or one lifetime. This should be encouraged not frowned up. Mrs x Historical context will always be relevant. It has shaped how societies and people understand race and racism. It’s important to know and understand these things. We have to know why society has created perceptions and reproduced stereotypes and represented groups in certain ways over time. Black men as aggressive. Black women as angry. Black women as aggressive. Black men as hypersexual. And these stereotypes are centuries old and as fab proves time and time again- they’re still going around. Whether people do so intentionally or not is somewhat irrelevant because it is still happening. As for my partner- yeah of course love was what won. But I still find women of all races attractive. And I still am intimate with people of all different races. I hear what you’re saying but like I said, even if it’s not hateful, I am well within my rights to say, ew, I don’t like the reasons you have for finding me attractive and out of self respect, I’m going to step away. " I think that you are 100^ right history should never be forgotten, it does shape society and attitudes. However the problem with history is that it becomes less relevant with the passing of time. So yeah I cannot deny the things you say happened but are these reasons still relevant for how people behave today? I do, as I've already stated, believe history shapes society but it also evolves too. Changing for the better. Interracial relationships were banned historically, now they aren't. So isn't that a positive change, shouldn't this be encouraged? Or should it be frowned upon saying, 'years ago you hated us'. Well that attitude is obviously changing. As for the stereotypes etc, anyone would be stupid to believe these. Talk to people, get to know them. And as for the 'big dick' stereotype, if people used this and believed ALL black guys have big kicks, then asking for this would be redundant. I'm positive people as for big dick or cock is that's because they don't want a guy with a little dick. So from a historical perspective, just because something happen years and years ago doesn't mean that's why people are making their choices today. Just like society, people's attitudes evolve over time, we are not like our ancestors. Mrs x | |||
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"“Modern women Lol no I genuinely wasn’t sure what you meant so asked for clarity. But in the modern day, nobody is arguing that it’s the same as then. I am pretty sure Tess was highlighting that the absence of hate doesn’t mean that people aren’t racist or that they don’t have racist motivations for sleeping with someone? I was supporting that argument. So just to be perfectly clear. You support the idea that white women who enjoy black sexual partners are racist. I don’t understand how you’re getting to that conclusion
No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist. "It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above. Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024. | |||
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"But your saying historical context, how long ago are we talking? Is this relevant to people who have no knowledge of history regarding this? And from a personal point of view, did you choose to embark on an interracial relationship because of the historical context or in spite of it? Or did you just grow to love a person who just happens to come from a different race? I already suspect I know the answer, given that we don't agree often I know you seem like a nice guy, who doesn't spout hate and so I believe it's all about the love. I'm just saying I believe that history should never be forgotten but it shouldn't be used to continue saying things are a certain way unless they objectively are. Falling in love, sharing moments of passion and intimacy with others who are different from yourselves does not seem to qualify as racism. These acts are not hateful, unlike all the abhorrent stuff committed over the last few weeks. This is more to do with love than hate, whether for one night or one lifetime. This should be encouraged not frowned up. Mrs x Historical context will always be relevant. It has shaped how societies and people understand race and racism. It’s important to know and understand these things. We have to know why society has created perceptions and reproduced stereotypes and represented groups in certain ways over time. Black men as aggressive. Black women as angry. Black women as aggressive. Black men as hypersexual. And these stereotypes are centuries old and as fab proves time and time again- they’re still going around. Whether people do so intentionally or not is somewhat irrelevant because it is still happening. As for my partner- yeah of course love was what won. But I still find women of all races attractive. And I still am intimate with people of all different races. I hear what you’re saying but like I said, even if it’s not hateful, I am well within my rights to say, ew, I don’t like the reasons you have for finding me attractive and out of self respect, I’m going to step away. I think that you are 100^ right history should never be forgotten, it does shape society and attitudes. However the problem with history is that it becomes less relevant with the passing of time. So yeah I cannot deny the things you say happened but are these reasons still relevant for how people behave today? I do, as I've already stated, believe history shapes society but it also evolves too. Changing for the better. Interracial relationships were banned historically, now they aren't. So isn't that a positive change, shouldn't this be encouraged? Or should it be frowned upon saying, 'years ago you hated us'. Well that attitude is obviously changing. As for the stereotypes etc, anyone would be stupid to believe these. Talk to people, get to know them. And as for the 'big dick' stereotype, if people used this and believed ALL black guys have big kicks, then asking for this would be redundant. I'm positive people as for big dick or cock is that's because they don't want a guy with a little dick. So from a historical perspective, just because something happen years and years ago doesn't mean that's why people are making their choices today. Just like society, people's attitudes evolve over time, we are not like our ancestors. Mrs x" I hear what you’re saying and I respectfully disagree. We won’t agree I don’t think but fair enough. | |||
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
"Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all. | |||
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all. "Mixed race people have literally spoken about racist anti black parents and family members. | |||
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist. "When you talk about slav@rs being racist, and the sex being an abhorrent act of violence towards the victim then you are correct. But that has nothing to do with today's society living here. We never did this. I can't see how this has any bearing on a decision to enjoy sex with a black guy or black girl today if you are white. What objective standard of racism would apply to such an act today, unless it was r**e or sexual assault. So we are meeting guys and girls today, our actions should be judged by today's standards. So in the absence of domination, degradation, violence, non consent etc how is it racist, today and not hundreds of years ago? Mrs x | |||
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"“Modern women Lol no I genuinely wasn’t sure what you meant so asked for clarity. But in the modern day, nobody is arguing that it’s the same as then. I am pretty sure Tess was highlighting that the absence of hate doesn’t mean that people aren’t racist or that they don’t have racist motivations for sleeping with someone? I was supporting that argument. So just to be perfectly clear. You support the idea that white women who enjoy black sexual partners are racist. I don’t understand how you’re getting to that conclusion
No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all. "Ok, I understand your position. The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking. I’ll leave it there. We can agree that we disagree and that’s perfectly fine. | |||
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Why is it only about white supremacists? There are lots of smaller acts of racism, micro acts of prejudice and discrimination that happen in everyday life. You don’t have to vote for reform to still have racist tendencies. "Nuance is wasted here, I think 🤷♀️ | |||
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Why is it only about white supremacists? There are lots of smaller acts of racism, micro acts of prejudice and discrimination that happen in everyday life. You don’t have to vote for reform to still have racist tendencies.
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Why is it only about white supremacists? There are lots of smaller acts of racism, micro acts of prejudice and discrimination that happen in everyday life. You don’t have to vote for reform to still have racist tendencies.
Nuance is wasted here, I think 🤷♀️"Nuance, concepts of prejudice, privilege and recognition that being cis het and white doesn’t give you all the answers on questions of race, gender and sexuality | |||
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"“Modern women Lol no I genuinely wasn’t sure what you meant so asked for clarity. But in the modern day, nobody is arguing that it’s the same as then. I am pretty sure Tess was highlighting that the absence of hate doesn’t mean that people aren’t racist or that they don’t have racist motivations for sleeping with someone? I was supporting that argument. So just to be perfectly clear. You support the idea that white women who enjoy black sexual partners are racist. I don’t understand how you’re getting to that conclusion
No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist. When you talk about slav@rs being racist, and the sex being an abhorrent act of violence towards the victim then you are correct. But that has nothing to do with today's society living here. We never did this. I can't see how this has any bearing on a decision to enjoy sex with a black guy or black girl today if you are white.
What objective standard of racism would apply to such an act today, unless it was r**e or sexual assault.
So we are meeting guys and girls today, our actions should be judged by today's standards. So in the absence of domination, degradation, violence, non consent etc how is it racist, today and not hundreds of years ago?
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" Nuance is wasted here, I think 🤷♀️ Nuance, concepts of prejudice, privilege and recognition that being cis het and white doesn’t give you all the answers on questions of race, gender and sexuality " Except when it's about the majority group. Then we get out the microscope because it's compulsory. We have to cater to individuals in every facet. Funny who gets to be individual and ego doesn't | |||
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"“Modern women Lol no I genuinely wasn’t sure what you meant so asked for clarity. But in the modern day, nobody is arguing that it’s the same as then. I am pretty sure Tess was highlighting that the absence of hate doesn’t mean that people aren’t racist or that they don’t have racist motivations for sleeping with someone? I was supporting that argument. So just to be perfectly clear. You support the idea that white women who enjoy black sexual partners are racist. I don’t understand how you’re getting to that conclusion
No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all.
Ok, I understand your position.
The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking.
I’ll leave it there. We can agree that we disagree and that’s perfectly fine. "Is the aggressive tone in the room with us? | |||
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all.
Ok, I understand your position.
The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking.
I’ll leave it there. We can agree that we disagree and that’s perfectly fine.
Is the aggressive tone in the room with us?
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all.
Ok, I understand your position.
The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking.
I’ll leave it there. We can agree that we disagree and that’s perfectly fine.
Is the aggressive tone in the room with us?
Come on p, we have a different outlook. No more no less. It’s ok. "I don’t care that we disagree. I disagree with most of the forums. Especially on racism. I am serious about the aggressive tone though. But we can leave it. | |||
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all.
Ok, I understand your position.
The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking.
I’ll leave it there. We can agree that we disagree and that’s perfectly fine.
Is the aggressive tone in the room with us?
Come on p, we have a different outlook. No more no less. It’s ok.
I don’t care that we disagree. I disagree with most of the forums. Especially on racism. I am serious about the aggressive tone though. But we can leave it. "It was when you started to swear. But we’re both adults. I respect your views. As a black man I couldn’t dismiss your lived experiences and feelings, in the same way that you couldn’t a white woman’s. | |||
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all.
Ok, I understand your position.
The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking.
I’ll leave it there. We can agree that we disagree and that’s perfectly fine.
Is the aggressive tone in the room with us?
Come on p, we have a different outlook. No more no less. It’s ok.
I don’t care that we disagree. I disagree with most of the forums. Especially on racism. I am serious about the aggressive tone though. But we can leave it. "If you think I've been aggressive that's not my intention, Mrs x | |||
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all.
Ok, I understand your position.
The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking.
I’ll leave it there. We can agree that we disagree and that’s perfectly fine.
Is the aggressive tone in the room with us?
Come on p, we have a different outlook. No more no less. It’s ok.
I don’t care that we disagree. I disagree with most of the forums. Especially on racism. I am serious about the aggressive tone though. But we can leave it. If you think I've been aggressive that's not my intention, Mrs x"I don’t think you have been at all. I don’t think any of us have been. | |||
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all.
Ok, I understand your position.
The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking.
I’ll leave it there. We can agree that we disagree and that’s perfectly fine.
Is the aggressive tone in the room with us?
Come on p, we have a different outlook. No more no less. It’s ok.
I don’t care that we disagree. I disagree with most of the forums. Especially on racism. I am serious about the aggressive tone though. But we can leave it.
It was when you started to swear.
But we’re both adults.
I respect your views. As a black man I couldn’t dismiss your lived experiences and feelings, in the same way that you couldn’t a white woman’s.
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all.
Ok, I understand your position.
The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking.
I’ll leave it there. We can agree that we disagree and that’s perfectly fine.
Is the aggressive tone in the room with us?
Come on p, we have a different outlook. No more no less. It’s ok.
I don’t care that we disagree. I disagree with most of the forums. Especially on racism. I am serious about the aggressive tone though. But we can leave it.
It was when you started to swear.
But we’re both adults.
I respect your views. As a black man I couldn’t dismiss your lived experiences and feelings, in the same way that you couldn’t a white woman’s.
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"Yes we all have different likes or dislikes ,few years ago I had a friend on here,a white guy,in his profile he stated that wanted black women only ,he got so many nasty messages from white women that he deleted account , I truly think that some people hate the fact that we’re seen as attractive/ desirable. But like in most arguments there's an opposing view. Some people love the fact that there are those of different races that are attractive and desirable. On a personal level I don't think all black guys are attractive just like I don't think all white guys are. I think that it's similar to other aspects of life. Take food for example. If you have home cooked, chips and eggs at home, when you go out for something to eat you probably want something you don't have at home, so you may go Chinese, Indian, Italian etc. You want to change it up, have something different. Doesn't mean you don't like chips & egg anymore, just now and then you want something different. Variety is the spice of life after all. I do agree it would be weird to eat a different cuisine just because it was of a certain cuisine. You still must find the food tasty. If all interracial play is based upon some form of racism then I find that sad. Does it mean all interracial relationships are based upon the same premise. I think it would be sad if mixed race kids grew up like that, that would be awful. I hope that people find people fun or sexy, even if you choose to play with someone outside of your race. So long as that choice is not motivated through hate. Mrs x My response was just related to the poster describing his friend’s experience. I believe many people feel that way. That’s why they complain about it, ask partners if they’ve slept with black people etc. I'm sure there are twisted fucks who have such agendas but I'm much more hopefully that the majority don't base their attraction on racism. I would hate to find out that the black guys who I've met only did so because of racist overtones. On here, I find this difficult to believe because it seems a daft way to express racism by sharing one of the most physically enjoyable experience with someone you despise racially. That principle doesn't seem to match up with the description of racism I was brought up with. I think it's the absence of hate that's an issue. So if you are going to meet up, have a fantastic time with each other, without abuse, violence, sexual assault etc then is it borne of racism just because you want to meet up with someone of a different race. I still believe you have to be attracted to the individual. I think the absence of hate is the big thing here, that only leaves love and surely that's a good thing. Mrs x White sl-ve masters used to r-pe and impregnant black sl-ves, so this isn't the argument that you think it is So are you saying that because things happened in the past has something to do with why certain people are attracted to others today? Mrs x" No I'm saying that just because people choose to have sex with people of other races doesn't automatically mean they aren't racist. | |||
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"“Modern women Lol no I genuinely wasn’t sure what you meant so asked for clarity. But in the modern day, nobody is arguing that it’s the same as then. I am pretty sure Tess was highlighting that the absence of hate doesn’t mean that people aren’t racist or that they don’t have racist motivations for sleeping with someone? I was supporting that argument. So just to be perfectly clear. You support the idea that white women who enjoy black sexual partners are racist. I don’t understand how you’re getting to that conclusion
No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all.
Ok, I understand your position.
The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking.
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all.
Ok, I understand your position.
The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking.
I’ll leave it there. We can agree that we disagree and that’s perfectly fine.
Not the 'aggressive tone' "
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all.
Ok, I understand your position.
The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking.
I’ll leave it there. We can agree that we disagree and that’s perfectly fine.
Not the 'aggressive tone'
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No I support the idea that White women that have Black sexual partners CAN still be racist and that their interest in Black people CAN be based on racism/ racist myths/ racist stereotypes. And that them having sex with Black people is NOT evidence that they’re not racist.
It’s an easy conclusion to make after reading your words above.
Do you honestly believe that racists / white supremacists, call them what they are, really want to have sex with black people. Honestly, do you really think that? And I’m not talking about rapists 150 years ago, I’m talking modern women in 2024.
Yes because racists are more than neo n*zi skin heads that want us all deported back to Africa. So yes, I think people are racist and still sleep with people of other races. Like I said the old ‘I’m not racist, I have a black boyfriend/ mixed kids’ literally means fuck all.
Ok, I understand your position.
The aggressive tone of the last response speaks volumes, but i do understand your frustration at someone challenging magical thinking.
I’ll leave it there. We can agree that we disagree and that’s perfectly fine.
Not the 'aggressive tone'
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"This is more of an observation which has me curious to know why so many women prefer black men in here, but I very rarely see mixed couples in reality? Is it "so many" or is a minority compared to the amount of women who don't have a preference towards race or those who don't like black men? Why is it a consistent thing on here of white men complaining that some women on here like black men. It's so weird. Its a preference and it doesn't affect you so don't worry about it. There’s lots of reasons I imagine why White men are upset about or interested in White women sleeping with Black men, on here and in wider society; all of the reasons are to do with racism. Absolutely I was having this convo with my friend Petals yesterday and she said she gets loads of white men asking her if she's ever had sex with a black guy. It's sooooooo weird " That's me
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"I think I've spent over 90% of my time on here as part of a mixed race couple. I do wonder if I have something of a type preference, I don't believe I do, I think it's some other elusive factor potentially though. Yeah the BBC thing is a bit 🙄, my partner certainly felt so. Moreso the black guys who turned a blind eye to it, in order to get the sex. Her biggest irritation was the 'I've never had a black woman before' line, which was a huge turn off for her. Many shot themselves in the foot with that one." 🥴 ‘I’ve never been with a block woman before‘ is gross. I’ve also spoken to Black women who have said they’ve had approaches like this. Some I wouldn’t even write on this forum. | |||
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"Yes we all have different likes or dislikes ,few years ago I had a friend on here,a white guy,in his profile he stated that wanted black women only ,he got so many nasty messages from white women that he deleted account , I truly think that some people hate the fact that we’re seen as attractive/ desirable. But like in most arguments there's an opposing view. Some people love the fact that there are those of different races that are attractive and desirable. On a personal level I don't think all black guys are attractive just like I don't think all white guys are. I think that it's similar to other aspects of life. Take food for example. If you have home cooked, chips and eggs at home, when you go out for something to eat you probably want something you don't have at home, so you may go Chinese, Indian, Italian etc. You want to change it up, have something different. Doesn't mean you don't like chips & egg anymore, just now and then you want something different. Variety is the spice of life after all. I do agree it would be weird to eat a different cuisine just because it was of a certain cuisine. You still must find the food tasty. If all interracial play is based upon some form of racism then I find that sad. Does it mean all interracial relationships are based upon the same premise. I think it would be sad if mixed race kids grew up like that, that would be awful. I hope that people find people fun or sexy, even if you choose to play with someone outside of your race. So long as that choice is not motivated through hate. Mrs x My response was just related to the poster describing his friend’s experience. I believe many people feel that way. That’s why they complain about it, ask partners if they’ve slept with black people etc. I'm sure there are twisted fucks who have such agendas but I'm much more hopefully that the majority don't base their attraction on racism. I would hate to find out that the black guys who I've met only did so because of racist overtones. On here, I find this difficult to believe because it seems a daft way to express racism by sharing one of the most physically enjoyable experience with someone you despise racially. That principle doesn't seem to match up with the description of racism I was brought up with. I think it's the absence of hate that's an issue. So if you are going to meet up, have a fantastic time with each other, without abuse, violence, sexual assault etc then is it borne of racism just because you want to meet up with someone of a different race. I still believe you have to be attracted to the individual. I think the absence of hate is the big thing here, that only leaves love and surely that's a good thing. Mrs x White sl-ve masters used to r-pe and impregnant black sl-ves, so this isn't the argument that you think it is So are you saying that because things happened in the past has something to do with why certain people are attracted to others today? Mrs x No I'm saying that just because people choose to have sex with people of other races doesn't automatically mean they aren't racist. " So let's say I'm a strong racist, in this case against black people, lets say its a deep hatred for this particular race. What, as such a racist, am I getting out of sleeping with a black guy? It's this that I don't understand. Also when you say someone can sleep with other races but it doesn't automatically mean you are not racist can be true. But then it can also be true that someone doing this is not automatically a racist. Don't you agree? Mrs x | |||
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