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By *ea wang OP   Man
23 weeks ago

scunthorpe

Anyone tried it ,saw it on fb and very skeptical it would work tone you up

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By *istyblue1967Man
23 weeks ago

manchester

i have seen many adverts for it

it does look good

but i didnt fancy subscribing to a site

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
23 weeks ago

East Sussex

Can you briefly describe it?

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By *mudge354Man
23 weeks ago

Mid Sussex

Not sure about the one on facebook. But fitness from being seated does work. I had to do it after having my ankle fixes.

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By *antra MassageMan
23 weeks ago

city

I think it's like armchair yoga.

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By *hilloutMan
23 weeks ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

'Think it's impossible to have a flat stomach at 60? Look at me'

So goes the advert with the bearded grandad with the six pack I keep seeing 😂😂

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By *ou only live onceMan
23 weeks ago

London

I can see that if your were 'confined' to a chair for any reason, it would be much better than doing nothing.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
23 weeks ago

East Sussex


"'Think it's impossible to have a flat stomach at 60? Look at me'

So goes the advert with the bearded grandad with the six pack I keep seeing 😂😂"

It's impossible for me because I'm not committed enough to do what's required

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By *ersona101Man
23 weeks ago

Letchworth


"i have seen many adverts for it

it does look good

but i didnt fancy subscribing to a site

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I'm the same. I don't want to subscribe to something.

It does look like a combination of yoga and dynamic tension.

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By *ersona101Man
23 weeks ago

Letchworth

There's plenty of free workouts on YouTube

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
23 weeks ago

North West


"I can see that if your were 'confined' to a chair for any reason, it would be much better than doing nothing."

There's no confinement. Hardly anyone who is disabled stays in the same place 24/7

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By (user no longer on site)
23 weeks ago

Qualified PT here!

If the exercise gets your heart rate going at 60% or more of your max heart rate (your MHR is 220 minus your age then 60% of that) then it’s definitely worth doing but I’m not sure many chair workouts would give you those kinds of benefits.

As far as toning it could work but won’t be easy, and tbh if you aren’t confined to a chair I’d honestly suggest doing something else.

Saying that their ar slots of good knee exercises you can do to strengthen your knees but they are more aimed at aiding mobility than actively toning muscle

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By *naswingdressWoman
23 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)

In my work helping frail elderly people, they got quite a lot out of it. You've got to take people from they are: some of them couldn't even walk to their front gate unaided. Exercise is exercise.

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By (user no longer on site)
23 weeks ago


"I can see that if your were 'confined' to a chair for any reason, it would be much better than doing nothing.

There's no confinement. Hardly anyone who is disabled stays in the same place 24/7 "

True but for many, Minnie included, using standard gym equipment just isn’t an option for various reasons. She can only use the recumbent bikes as her mobility is very limited, no way she could use a treadmill or rowing machine for cardio and any form of HIIT is out of the question for her.

Think what they meant was people like this

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
23 weeks ago

North West

I successfully exercise from a chair on wheels all the time. You CAN increase your heart rate via seated exercises, you just need the right equipment (probably some kind of gym, or a decent wheelchair) and someone who has a vague idea of disability sports.

Wheelchair sports at the recreational level are usually open to all, disabled or not. Ask your local council about local wheelchair sports groups. I can assure you that wheelchair sports WILL increase your heart rate. Big time.

Gyms can be used seated too. Most weights machines, rowing machines can either be used with the sliding rowing seat or for most commercial gym machines, you can remove the seated bit easily and row from a wheelchair with the brakes on or from a regular chair. You can use battle ropes from a seated position. You can box from a seated position. You can use resistance bands seated. You can throw/catch medicine balls seated. You can do modified deadlifts seated.

PTs need much more training on gym training for disabled clients. My PT and I have worked it out for ourselves. There are lots of disabled PTs sharing workout and exercise ideas on Instagram too.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
23 weeks ago

North West

And for anyone whose mobility is so challenged that they cannot do anything weight bearing, they should DEFINITELY look into wheelchair based activities and sports.

Wheelchairs are tools of enablement and should be seen as such. Exercising, including at a very high level of intensity, is only possible for me in/via a wheelchair.

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By *viatrixWoman
23 weeks ago

Redhill

Another way to look at a chair workout is using the chair as a tool to do strength exercises using your own body weight, not necessarily being seated on it.

For example, tricep dips resting your hands on the chair seat, going up and down alternating legs, press-ups, etc. it’s handy with a hotel chair and when you’re travelling and have no weight or resistance equipment available.

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By (user no longer on site)
23 weeks ago


"I successfully exercise from a chair on wheels all the time. You CAN increase your heart rate via seated exercises, you just need the right equipment (probably some kind of gym, or a decent wheelchair) and someone who has a vague idea of disability sports.

Wheelchair sports at the recreational level are usually open to all, disabled or not. Ask your local council about local wheelchair sports groups. I can assure you that wheelchair sports WILL increase your heart rate. Big time.

Gyms can be used seated too. Most weights machines, rowing machines can either be used with the sliding rowing seat or for most commercial gym machines, you can remove the seated bit easily and row from a wheelchair with the brakes on or from a regular chair. You can use battle ropes from a seated position. You can box from a seated position. You can use resistance bands seated. You can throw/catch medicine balls seated. You can do modified deadlifts seated.

PTs need much more training on gym training for disabled clients. My PT and I have worked it out for ourselves. There are lots of disabled PTs sharing workout and exercise ideas on Instagram too. "

I didn’t say you couldn’t, I was only pointing out the basic requirements for an effective cardio exercise. I know you can increase your heart rate from a seated position, was simply suggesting if you don’t have to then try something else.

A lot of people are unable to, as I said with my wife, that’s why I qualified as a PT so I could specifically help her. Everyone’s needs are different though and it isn’t a one size fits all solution.

Sorry if you misunderstood the point I was trying to make

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By *naswingdressWoman
23 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Another way to look at a chair workout is using the chair as a tool to do strength exercises using your own body weight, not necessarily being seated on it.

For example, tricep dips resting your hands on the chair seat, going up and down alternating legs, press-ups, etc. it’s handy with a hotel chair and when you’re travelling and have no weight or resistance equipment available.

"

Yes, but that's not what people mean when they say chair exercise.

I also hack my surroundings for workouts.

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By *viatrixWoman
23 weeks ago

Redhill


"Another way to look at a chair workout is using the chair as a tool to do strength exercises using your own body weight, not necessarily being seated on it.

For example, tricep dips resting your hands on the chair seat, going up and down alternating legs, press-ups, etc. it’s handy with a hotel chair and when you’re travelling and have no weight or resistance equipment available.

Yes, but that's not what people mean when they say chair exercise.

I also hack my surroundings for workouts."

Erm, why not?

I am taking it too literally? Lol.

If I google “chair fitness” I see both types of exercise. Seated and not-seated.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
23 weeks ago

North West


"I successfully exercise from a chair on wheels all the time. You CAN increase your heart rate via seated exercises, you just need the right equipment (probably some kind of gym, or a decent wheelchair) and someone who has a vague idea of disability sports.

Wheelchair sports at the recreational level are usually open to all, disabled or not. Ask your local council about local wheelchair sports groups. I can assure you that wheelchair sports WILL increase your heart rate. Big time.

Gyms can be used seated too. Most weights machines, rowing machines can either be used with the sliding rowing seat or for most commercial gym machines, you can remove the seated bit easily and row from a wheelchair with the brakes on or from a regular chair. You can use battle ropes from a seated position. You can box from a seated position. You can use resistance bands seated. You can throw/catch medicine balls seated. You can do modified deadlifts seated.

PTs need much more training on gym training for disabled clients. My PT and I have worked it out for ourselves. There are lots of disabled PTs sharing workout and exercise ideas on Instagram too.

I didn’t say you couldn’t, I was only pointing out the basic requirements for an effective cardio exercise. I know you can increase your heart rate from a seated position, was simply suggesting if you don’t have to then try something else.

A lot of people are unable to, as I said with my wife, that’s why I qualified as a PT so I could specifically help her. Everyone’s needs are different though and it isn’t a one size fits all solution.

Sorry if you misunderstood the point I was trying to make"

Your wife might not be able to. But plenty of cardio intensive exercises CAN be done seated.

Would your wife be able to exercise via a wheelchair? That's the game changer for many but you CAN substantially increase the heart rate from a fixed or recumbent chair also. It takes creativity and a willingness to think outside the box, which most PTs are either unable* or unwilling to do.

*Unable, as in, lacking the necessary skills or knowledge.

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By *naswingdressWoman
23 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Another way to look at a chair workout is using the chair as a tool to do strength exercises using your own body weight, not necessarily being seated on it.

For example, tricep dips resting your hands on the chair seat, going up and down alternating legs, press-ups, etc. it’s handy with a hotel chair and when you’re travelling and have no weight or resistance equipment available.

Yes, but that's not what people mean when they say chair exercise.

I also hack my surroundings for workouts.

Erm, why not?

I am taking it too literally? Lol.

If I google “chair fitness” I see both types of exercise. Seated and not-seated.

"

I've only ever seen it as for people with limited mobility. I think it's useful to have a separate category for those with reduced ability (I'm not in charge of anything, but I think that that category of people needs it more than we do).

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23 weeks ago

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By *oodmessMan
23 weeks ago

yumsville


"And for anyone whose mobility is so challenged that they cannot do anything weight bearing, they should DEFINITELY look into wheelchair based activities and sports.

Wheelchairs are tools of enablement and should be seen as such. Exercising, including at a very high level of intensity, is only possible for me in/via a wheelchair. "

Whilst this might be your experience, there's plenty with muscle wasting illnesses that means pushing their body weight around just isn't feasible.

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By (user no longer on site)
23 weeks ago


"I successfully exercise from a chair on wheels all the time. You CAN increase your heart rate via seated exercises, you just need the right equipment (probably some kind of gym, or a decent wheelchair) and someone who has a vague idea of disability sports.

Wheelchair sports at the recreational level are usually open to all, disabled or not. Ask your local council about local wheelchair sports groups. I can assure you that wheelchair sports WILL increase your heart rate. Big time.

Gyms can be used seated too. Most weights machines, rowing machines can either be used with the sliding rowing seat or for most commercial gym machines, you can remove the seated bit easily and row from a wheelchair with the brakes on or from a regular chair. You can use battle ropes from a seated position. You can box from a seated position. You can use resistance bands seated. You can throw/catch medicine balls seated. You can do modified deadlifts seated.

PTs need much more training on gym training for disabled clients. My PT and I have worked it out for ourselves. There are lots of disabled PTs sharing workout and exercise ideas on Instagram too.

I didn’t say you couldn’t, I was only pointing out the basic requirements for an effective cardio exercise. I know you can increase your heart rate from a seated position, was simply suggesting if you don’t have to then try something else.

A lot of people are unable to, as I said with my wife, that’s why I qualified as a PT so I could specifically help her. Everyone’s needs are different though and it isn’t a one size fits all solution.

Sorry if you misunderstood the point I was trying to make

Your wife might not be able to. But plenty of cardio intensive exercises CAN be done seated.

Would your wife be able to exercise via a wheelchair? That's the game changer for many but you CAN substantially increase the heart rate from a fixed or recumbent chair also. It takes creativity and a willingness to think outside the box, which most PTs are either unable* or unwilling to do.

*Unable, as in, lacking the necessary skills or knowledge. "

Sorry you’ve completely mis-read what I’ve put and really need to re-read it! I said my wife only uses a recumbent bike as more standard cardio equipment is not suitable for her. I also didn’t say she couldn’t exercise, she does so most days

Thank you though for pointing out I’m “unable or unwilling to think outside the box” and I “lack the necessary skill or knowledge”. My wife is a wheelchair user but I obviously have absolutely no clue about her needs and the issues she faces on a daily basis

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By *naswingdressWoman
23 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)


"And for anyone whose mobility is so challenged that they cannot do anything weight bearing, they should DEFINITELY look into wheelchair based activities and sports.

Wheelchairs are tools of enablement and should be seen as such. Exercising, including at a very high level of intensity, is only possible for me in/via a wheelchair.

Whilst this might be your experience, there's plenty with muscle wasting illnesses that means pushing their body weight around just isn't feasible. "

And presumably wheelchairs are still an easier way to get around for them than not having a wheelchair?

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By *oodmessMan
23 weeks ago

yumsville


"And for anyone whose mobility is so challenged that they cannot do anything weight bearing, they should DEFINITELY look into wheelchair based activities and sports.

Wheelchairs are tools of enablement and should be seen as such. Exercising, including at a very high level of intensity, is only possible for me in/via a wheelchair.

Whilst this might be your experience, there's plenty with muscle wasting illnesses that means pushing their body weight around just isn't feasible.

And presumably wheelchairs are still an easier way to get around for them than not having a wheelchair?"

I would expect so. Some are electric, some are pushed by others.

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By *naswingdressWoman
23 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)


"And for anyone whose mobility is so challenged that they cannot do anything weight bearing, they should DEFINITELY look into wheelchair based activities and sports.

Wheelchairs are tools of enablement and should be seen as such. Exercising, including at a very high level of intensity, is only possible for me in/via a wheelchair.

Whilst this might be your experience, there's plenty with muscle wasting illnesses that means pushing their body weight around just isn't feasible.

And presumably wheelchairs are still an easier way to get around for them than not having a wheelchair?

I would expect so. Some are electric, some are pushed by others. "

Yes. Which would make wheelchairs a tool of enablement for them, too.

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By *oodmessMan
23 weeks ago

yumsville


"And for anyone whose mobility is so challenged that they cannot do anything weight bearing, they should DEFINITELY look into wheelchair based activities and sports.

Wheelchairs are tools of enablement and should be seen as such. Exercising, including at a very high level of intensity, is only possible for me in/via a wheelchair.

Whilst this might be your experience, there's plenty with muscle wasting illnesses that means pushing their body weight around just isn't feasible.

And presumably wheelchairs are still an easier way to get around for them than not having a wheelchair?

I would expect so. Some are electric, some are pushed by others.

Yes. Which would make wheelchairs a tool of enablement for them, too."

It seems you're wanting to split hairs and prove a point. I was quoting their use in sports, exercise and heart rate increase.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
23 weeks ago

North West


"And for anyone whose mobility is so challenged that they cannot do anything weight bearing, they should DEFINITELY look into wheelchair based activities and sports.

Wheelchairs are tools of enablement and should be seen as such. Exercising, including at a very high level of intensity, is only possible for me in/via a wheelchair.

Whilst this might be your experience, there's plenty with muscle wasting illnesses that means pushing their body weight around just isn't feasible. "

I didn't mean just self propelled wheelchairs. Sport can be done via powerchairs too, if desired, e.g. powerchair football. Even if sport isn't feasible for someone who uses a powerchair, the chair is still a tool of enablement. Presumably without the powerchair, they'd be even less able to moved around or be positioned in an appropriate way for them?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
23 weeks ago

North West


"I successfully exercise from a chair on wheels all the time. You CAN increase your heart rate via seated exercises, you just need the right equipment (probably some kind of gym, or a decent wheelchair) and someone who has a vague idea of disability sports.

Wheelchair sports at the recreational level are usually open to all, disabled or not. Ask your local council about local wheelchair sports groups. I can assure you that wheelchair sports WILL increase your heart rate. Big time.

Gyms can be used seated too. Most weights machines, rowing machines can either be used with the sliding rowing seat or for most commercial gym machines, you can remove the seated bit easily and row from a wheelchair with the brakes on or from a regular chair. You can use battle ropes from a seated position. You can box from a seated position. You can use resistance bands seated. You can throw/catch medicine balls seated. You can do modified deadlifts seated.

PTs need much more training on gym training for disabled clients. My PT and I have worked it out for ourselves. There are lots of disabled PTs sharing workout and exercise ideas on Instagram too.

I didn’t say you couldn’t, I was only pointing out the basic requirements for an effective cardio exercise. I know you can increase your heart rate from a seated position, was simply suggesting if you don’t have to then try something else.

A lot of people are unable to, as I said with my wife, that’s why I qualified as a PT so I could specifically help her. Everyone’s needs are different though and it isn’t a one size fits all solution.

Sorry if you misunderstood the point I was trying to make

Your wife might not be able to. But plenty of cardio intensive exercises CAN be done seated.

Would your wife be able to exercise via a wheelchair? That's the game changer for many but you CAN substantially increase the heart rate from a fixed or recumbent chair also. It takes creativity and a willingness to think outside the box, which most PTs are either unable* or unwilling to do.

*Unable, as in, lacking the necessary skills or knowledge.

Sorry you’ve completely mis-read what I’ve put and really need to re-read it! I said my wife only uses a recumbent bike as more standard cardio equipment is not suitable for her. I also didn’t say she couldn’t exercise, she does so most days

Thank you though for pointing out I’m “unable or unwilling to think outside the box” and I “lack the necessary skill or knowledge”. My wife is a wheelchair user but I obviously have absolutely no clue about her needs and the issues she faces on a daily basis "

I didn't say you specifically. I said PTs. As a general group. It took me over 2yrs to find a PT who would even contemplate assisting me.

I asked if your wife would be able to exercise via a wheelchair, because if feasible, this opens up a plethora of potential options for cardio and other exercises. A lot of people don't consider wheelchair sporting activities because they don't think they should be wheelchair users, when in fact anyone can use a wheelchair for exercise.

Believe it or not, I'm trying to suggest that there might be things not previously considered. I hadn't realised or thought about the range of exercise I could achieve, until I had a wheelchair.

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By *naswingdressWoman
23 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)


"And for anyone whose mobility is so challenged that they cannot do anything weight bearing, they should DEFINITELY look into wheelchair based activities and sports.

Wheelchairs are tools of enablement and should be seen as such. Exercising, including at a very high level of intensity, is only possible for me in/via a wheelchair.

Whilst this might be your experience, there's plenty with muscle wasting illnesses that means pushing their body weight around just isn't feasible.

And presumably wheelchairs are still an easier way to get around for them than not having a wheelchair?

I would expect so. Some are electric, some are pushed by others.

Yes. Which would make wheelchairs a tool of enablement for them, too.

It seems you're wanting to split hairs and prove a point. I was quoting their use in sports, exercise and heart rate increase. "

I didn't think that it was that big of a thing. For those who need them, wheelchairs allow them to do more than they could do without a wheelchair. That's all.

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By *oodmessMan
23 weeks ago

yumsville


"And for anyone whose mobility is so challenged that they cannot do anything weight bearing, they should DEFINITELY look into wheelchair based activities and sports.

Wheelchairs are tools of enablement and should be seen as such. Exercising, including at a very high level of intensity, is only possible for me in/via a wheelchair.

Whilst this might be your experience, there's plenty with muscle wasting illnesses that means pushing their body weight around just isn't feasible.

And presumably wheelchairs are still an easier way to get around for them than not having a wheelchair?

I would expect so. Some are electric, some are pushed by others.

Yes. Which would make wheelchairs a tool of enablement for them, too.

It seems you're wanting to split hairs and prove a point. I was quoting their use in sports, exercise and heart rate increase.

I didn't think that it was that big of a thing. For those who need them, wheelchairs allow them to do more than they could do without a wheelchair. That's all."

So there's a thread about exercise, chair fitness, inability, disability and you don't think its a big thing to detract from that stating 'so long as they can get around it's all good'.

Pats on your back, and I'll leave it as that.

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By *naswingdressWoman
23 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)


"And for anyone whose mobility is so challenged that they cannot do anything weight bearing, they should DEFINITELY look into wheelchair based activities and sports.

Wheelchairs are tools of enablement and should be seen as such. Exercising, including at a very high level of intensity, is only possible for me in/via a wheelchair.

Whilst this might be your experience, there's plenty with muscle wasting illnesses that means pushing their body weight around just isn't feasible.

And presumably wheelchairs are still an easier way to get around for them than not having a wheelchair?

I would expect so. Some are electric, some are pushed by others.

Yes. Which would make wheelchairs a tool of enablement for them, too.

It seems you're wanting to split hairs and prove a point. I was quoting their use in sports, exercise and heart rate increase.

I didn't think that it was that big of a thing. For those who need them, wheelchairs allow them to do more than they could do without a wheelchair. That's all.

So there's a thread about exercise, chair fitness, inability, disability and you don't think its a big thing to detract from that stating 'so long as they can get around it's all good'.

Pats on your back, and I'll leave it as that. "

Point me to anywhere where I've ever said that.

Or maybe don't, because as you say, this is now detracting from the discussion.

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