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"You’re not directly involved but are one of a handful that are there on the scene immediately. It’s serious and the aftermath is hard to see. Do you rush in to try and help the victims? Would you be confident you knew the best thing to do?" Maybe I'm too sensible but I don't rush in as the safety risk is too high. If people manage to get out of the car, then I would ask them to come towards me (if they are able to). If they are conscious, I would talk to them through the car. But overall just ring the emergency services to get them the help they need. And also try and block off the road in some way shape or form to prevent people gawking. | |||
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"You’re not directly involved but are one of a handful that are there on the scene immediately. It’s serious and the aftermath is hard to see. Do you rush in to try and help the victims? Would you be confident you knew the best thing to do?" I don't "rush" in, but yes and yes. I've done it several times, for minor and major incidents. | |||
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"You’re not directly involved but are one of a handful that are there on the scene immediately. It’s serious and the aftermath is hard to see. Do you rush in to try and help the victims? Would you be confident you knew the best thing to do?" Yes saw two cars collide on a crossroads when i was a binman awful to see. Almost could of been js | |||
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"You’re not directly involved but are one of a handful that are there on the scene immediately. It’s serious and the aftermath is hard to see. Do you rush in to try and help the victims? Would you be confident you knew the best thing to do?" Yes, I'd try and help as best as I can. I have first aid training so I'd do what I could and contact emergency services etc. | |||
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"You’re not directly involved but are one of a handful that are there on the scene immediately. It’s serious and the aftermath is hard to see. Do you rush in to try and help the victims? Would you be confident you knew the best thing to do?" Absolutely, why wouldn’t you. I would check that they’re not in immediate further danger, from fire or other vehicles etc. I would make sure people were breathing, without choking or obstruction. I’d check for heavy bleeding. Id be phoning the emergency services whilst doing this. I’d have thought this would be the basic common sense thing for anyone to do. | |||
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"I’d have thought this would be the basic common sense thing for anyone to do. " You'd like to think that would be the case, but from what you see on the news these days, it seems there are a lot of people who get their mobile phones out just to record what's going on As others have said, emergency services would be called immediately. I don't care if 10 other people have done it, I would do it so I knew they were informed and hopefully en route. I have first aid training, carry hi vis, small fire extinguisher and first aid kit in the car, as well as warning triangle (requirements of driving in Europe!) and I would do all that I could. I just hope if I ever were unfortunate enough to come across this situation my brain would remember what I've been taught and not go into panic mode! | |||
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"I’d have thought this would be the basic common sense thing for anyone to do. You'd like to think that would be the case, but from what you see on the news these days, it seems there are a lot of people who get their mobile phones out just to record what's going on As others have said, emergency services would be called immediately. I don't care if 10 other people have done it, I would do it so I knew they were informed and hopefully en route. I have first aid training, carry hi vis, small fire extinguisher and first aid kit in the car, as well as warning triangle (requirements of driving in Europe!) and I would do all that I could. I just hope if I ever were unfortunate enough to come across this situation my brain would remember what I've been taught and not go into panic mode!" The mobile phone bit is a sickening part of modern humanity. | |||
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" Absolutely, why wouldn’t you. I would check that they’re not in immediate further danger, from fire or other vehicles etc. I would make sure people were breathing, without choking or obstruction. I’d check for heavy bleeding. Id be phoning the emergency services whilst doing this. I’d have thought this would be the basic common sense thing for anyone to do. " Because you may have no idea what the right thing to do might be and you’re worried about making any injuries worse. Because you’re plain scared of the things that are happening in front of your eyes and you’ve never experienced anything on the level. Basic common sense in this scenario should not be confused with basic trauma knowledge. Any person would obviously call emergency services. That is just human nature. | |||
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"You’re not directly involved but are one of a handful that are there on the scene immediately. It’s serious and the aftermath is hard to see. Do you rush in to try and help the victims? Would you be confident you knew the best thing to do?" This has happened to me, I was 19…. 3am, years before mobile phones, on a desolate section of the A69 on the way to Carlisle. A really dark night, car of 4 older people (2 couples) drove at speed, drifted straight into the back of a parked dump truck. I was driving behind them, saw their car drift off the road and their tail lights jump up in the air, thinking oh fuck, pulled up and got to the crashed car at the same time as the truck driver did. Both front seat occupants dead, rear passengers not wearing seat belts in a bad way. A horrific mess. Truck driver went into shock and uncommunicative. Not a word out of him the whole time, just sat down and didn’t move. Trying to keep two rear passengers alive, desperate for someone to drive past, pleading… 20 minutes later a car blew past, didn’t see me trying to flag it down. Fuck! 10 minutes later one of the survivors died, the other of the two women passengers, just stopped breathing and no pulse… and then a car approached, slowed and I ran over, told them to get to a phone box and call an ambulance. 15 minutes later an ambulance, then police and fire arrived. It was terrible waiting for someone who could get to a phone for me, so helpless, using clothes from their suitcases in the boot to try to stop bleeding. Turned out the man who survived was the husband of the lady in the front passenger seat, she was decapitated when the front of the car went under the truck. Poor guy. Still gives me nightmares but it motivated me to get some medical training and I’ve always carried a compact but serious EMS grade medical kit in my car that is designed for coping with traumatic injuries. Only so much you can do though. Thank fuck for mobile phones. | |||
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"You’re not directly involved but are one of a handful that are there on the scene immediately. It’s serious and the aftermath is hard to see. Do you rush in to try and help the victims? Would you be confident you knew the best thing to do? This has happened to me, I was 19…. 3am, years before mobile phones, on a desolate section of the A69 on the way to Carlisle. A really dark night, car of 4 older people (2 couples) drove at speed, drifted straight into the back of a parked dump truck. I was driving behind them, saw their car drift off the road and their tail lights jump up in the air, thinking oh fuck, pulled up and got to the crashed car at the same time as the truck driver did. Both front seat occupants dead, rear passengers not wearing seat belts in a bad way. A horrific mess. Truck driver went into shock and uncommunicative. Not a word out of him the whole time, just sat down and didn’t move. Trying to keep two rear passengers alive, desperate for someone to drive past, pleading… 20 minutes later a car blew past, didn’t see me trying to flag it down. Fuck! 10 minutes later one of the survivors died, the other of the two women passengers, just stopped breathing and no pulse… and then a car approached, slowed and I ran over, told them to get to a phone box and call an ambulance. 15 minutes later an ambulance, then police and fire arrived. It was terrible waiting for someone who could get to a phone for me, so helpless, using clothes from their suitcases in the boot to try to stop bleeding. Turned out the man who survived was the husband of the lady in the front passenger seat, she was decapitated when the front of the car went under the truck. Poor guy. Still gives me nightmares but it motivated me to get some medical training and I’ve always carried a compact but serious EMS grade medical kit in my car that is designed for coping with traumatic injuries. Only so much you can do though. Thank fuck for mobile phones." That’s a very traumatising experience. Sounds awful, you did your best and that’s all you could have done. | |||
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"You’re not directly involved but are one of a handful that are there on the scene immediately. It’s serious and the aftermath is hard to see. Do you rush in to try and help the victims? Would you be confident you knew the best thing to do? This has happened to me, I was 19…. 3am, years before mobile phones, on a desolate section of the A69 on the way to Carlisle. A really dark night, car of 4 older people (2 couples) drove at speed, drifted straight into the back of a parked dump truck. I was driving behind them, saw their car drift off the road and their tail lights jump up in the air, thinking oh fuck, pulled up and got to the crashed car at the same time as the truck driver did. Both front seat occupants dead, rear passengers not wearing seat belts in a bad way. A horrific mess. Truck driver went into shock and uncommunicative. Not a word out of him the whole time, just sat down and didn’t move. Trying to keep two rear passengers alive, desperate for someone to drive past, pleading… 20 minutes later a car blew past, didn’t see me trying to flag it down. Fuck! 10 minutes later one of the survivors died, the other of the two women passengers, just stopped breathing and no pulse… and then a car approached, slowed and I ran over, told them to get to a phone box and call an ambulance. 15 minutes later an ambulance, then police and fire arrived. It was terrible waiting for someone who could get to a phone for me, so helpless, using clothes from their suitcases in the boot to try to stop bleeding. Turned out the man who survived was the husband of the lady in the front passenger seat, she was decapitated when the front of the car went under the truck. Poor guy. Still gives me nightmares but it motivated me to get some medical training and I’ve always carried a compact but serious EMS grade medical kit in my car that is designed for coping with traumatic injuries. Only so much you can do though. Thank fuck for mobile phones. That’s a very traumatising experience. Sounds awful, you did your best and that’s all you could have done." The best thing that helped was that I was asked and then went to the funerals and was mobbed by their family, telling me I did what I could. A couple of firemen that attended the crash also came to the funerals and we sat in the pub… they talked to me, helped me work through the helplessness. They had both seen some horrors too, no professional post- trauma counselling in those days. | |||
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" Absolutely, why wouldn’t you. I would check that they’re not in immediate further danger, from fire or other vehicles etc. I would make sure people were breathing, without choking or obstruction. I’d check for heavy bleeding. Id be phoning the emergency services whilst doing this. I’d have thought this would be the basic common sense thing for anyone to do. Because you may have no idea what the right thing to do might be and you’re worried about making any injuries worse. Because you’re plain scared of the things that are happening in front of your eyes and you’ve never experienced anything on the level. Basic common sense in this scenario should not be confused with basic trauma knowledge. Any person would obviously call emergency services. That is just human nature." So you’d stand by on the phone without checking if people are breathing and have clear airways? I’d have thought that’s the basic common sense, maybe I’m wrong, but it’s what I’d do. | |||
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"Yes and yes, and have done countless times but I’m well trained and well experienced with some serious kit if I’m in my vehicle. I’d encourage everyone to get, at the very least, CPR training and the basics of how to stop a catastrophic bleed. You can make all the difference, it’s not as scary as you may think" Learn how to deal with the stuff of life - Drowning, bone fractures / breaks, dislocations, bleeding, how to use an AED, burns, shock… And remember if you find something sticking in you (knife, large piece of glass, fence post...) DON’T pull it out like they do in the movies- Hollywood will kill you. Some lives can only be saved in the emergency room but you can buy the time that lets them get there whilst still alive | |||
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"You’re not directly involved but are one of a handful that are there on the scene immediately. It’s serious and the aftermath is hard to see. Do you rush in to try and help the victims? Would you be confident you knew the best thing to do? This has happened to me, I was 19…. 3am, years before mobile phones, on a desolate section of the A69 on the way to Carlisle. A really dark night, car of 4 older people (2 couples) drove at speed, drifted straight into the back of a parked dump truck. I was driving behind them, saw their car drift off the road and their tail lights jump up in the air, thinking oh fuck, pulled up and got to the crashed car at the same time as the truck driver did. Both front seat occupants dead, rear passengers not wearing seat belts in a bad way. A horrific mess. Truck driver went into shock and uncommunicative. Not a word out of him the whole time, just sat down and didn’t move. Trying to keep two rear passengers alive, desperate for someone to drive past, pleading… 20 minutes later a car blew past, didn’t see me trying to flag it down. Fuck! 10 minutes later one of the survivors died, the other of the two women passengers, just stopped breathing and no pulse… and then a car approached, slowed and I ran over, told them to get to a phone box and call an ambulance. 15 minutes later an ambulance, then police and fire arrived. It was terrible waiting for someone who could get to a phone for me, so helpless, using clothes from their suitcases in the boot to try to stop bleeding. Turned out the man who survived was the husband of the lady in the front passenger seat, she was decapitated when the front of the car went under the truck. Poor guy. Still gives me nightmares but it motivated me to get some medical training and I’ve always carried a compact but serious EMS grade medical kit in my car that is designed for coping with traumatic injuries. Only so much you can do though. Thank fuck for mobile phones." What a brave and terryifing thing to do especially with the gravity of the situation xx | |||
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"You’re not directly involved but are one of a handful that are there on the scene immediately. It’s serious and the aftermath is hard to see. Do you rush in to try and help the victims? Would you be confident you knew the best thing to do? This has happened to me, I was 19…. 3am, years before mobile phones, on a desolate section of the A69 on the way to Carlisle. A really dark night, car of 4 older people (2 couples) drove at speed, drifted straight into the back of a parked dump truck. I was driving behind them, saw their car drift off the road and their tail lights jump up in the air, thinking oh fuck, pulled up and got to the crashed car at the same time as the truck driver did. Both front seat occupants dead, rear passengers not wearing seat belts in a bad way. A horrific mess. Truck driver went into shock and uncommunicative. Not a word out of him the whole time, just sat down and didn’t move. Trying to keep two rear passengers alive, desperate for someone to drive past, pleading… 20 minutes later a car blew past, didn’t see me trying to flag it down. Fuck! 10 minutes later one of the survivors died, the other of the two women passengers, just stopped breathing and no pulse… and then a car approached, slowed and I ran over, told them to get to a phone box and call an ambulance. 15 minutes later an ambulance, then police and fire arrived. It was terrible waiting for someone who could get to a phone for me, so helpless, using clothes from their suitcases in the boot to try to stop bleeding. Turned out the man who survived was the husband of the lady in the front passenger seat, she was decapitated when the front of the car went under the truck. Poor guy. Still gives me nightmares but it motivated me to get some medical training and I’ve always carried a compact but serious EMS grade medical kit in my car that is designed for coping with traumatic injuries. Only so much you can do though. Thank fuck for mobile phones. What a brave and terryifing thing to do especially with the gravity of the situation xx" Not brave I’m afraid.. scared, desperate, ill-equipped, untrained and… alone. I tried to explain to my kids how life was before mobile phones. Help couldn’t be summoned the way they have grown used to. | |||
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"Problem with helping is that, you can cause more injury, then you are culpable foe that.... Saying that I would help if I could, as long as it didn't put my own safety in jeopardy, or if I thought I'd do more injury by acting in some way. Mr " You’re not anymore. Good Samaritan act. As long as you ask a conscious person if you can help… if they are not conscious then it’s implied consent. There is literally nothing to fear from that. Your safety absolutely comes first though | |||
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"You’re not directly involved but are one of a handful that are there on the scene immediately. It’s serious and the aftermath is hard to see. Do you rush in to try and help the victims? Would you be confident you knew the best thing to do?" Why do you assume I’d stop. The mr | |||
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"Absolutely yes - More over I really wish schools would teach first aid It’s vital people should learn the basics to help ! If you can save someone then it’s morally right " I think it's okay for people to call experts to help | |||
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