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"Good. I won't mourn or miss her. " not saying any more about her there is plenty of other threads about her why start another 1 | |||
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"I for one thought she was brilliant. How about showing a little respect for the loss of another human being life. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want people talking about one of your loved ones like this after they're gone..." Would you also show respect for saddam hussain etc what you need to realise is maggie was despised by millions for various matters which will never be forgiven. Yes sad for her family but i got rid of my rose tinted glasses in 1979. | |||
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"I have found the people who are saying this most .. mostly on FB I add are too young to even know what she stood for or what she actually did" Which is how hatred continues generation after generation. I think these threads about Mrs T have shown clearly that there are people on here who are not as tolerant & friendly as they claim to be and I am glad they have shown their true colours these past two days as we wouldn't want to meet (and maybe have sex with) someone who is that unhinged. | |||
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"I for one thought she was brilliant. How about showing a little respect for the loss of another human being life. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want people talking about one of your loved ones like this after they're gone... Would you also show respect for saddam hussain etc what you need to realise is maggie was despised by millions for various matters which will never be forgiven. Yes sad for her family but i got rid of my rose tinted glasses in 1979." saddam was evil maggie was not | |||
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"Saying you wont miss her is one thing but to say that its 'good' that she's dead is disgusting. " | |||
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"I for one thought she was brilliant. How about showing a little respect for the loss of another human being life. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want people talking about one of your loved ones like this after they're gone... Would you also show respect for saddam hussain etc what you need to realise is maggie was despised by millions for various matters which will never be forgiven. Yes sad for her family but i got rid of my rose tinted glasses in 1979." She was loved by millions too, hence why she was voted in to power three times. Saddam wasn't. | |||
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"I have found the people who are saying this most .. mostly on FB I add are too young to even know what she stood for or what she actually did Which is how hatred continues generation after generation. I think these threads about Mrs T have shown clearly that there are people on here who are not as tolerant & friendly as they claim to be and I am glad they have shown their true colours these past two days as we wouldn't want to meet (and maybe have sex with) someone who is that unhinged." I was very young when she was PM but unlike others I know about her policies and what she did for the country. I would love one of the haters to try and run the country successfully | |||
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"Good. I won't mourn or miss her. " Btw OP I am sure she would not be bothered after all she doesn't need your vote now, nor are you a family member who have every right to mourn her peacefully. | |||
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"I for one thought she was brilliant. How about showing a little respect for the loss of another human being life. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want people talking about one of your loved ones like this after they're gone... Would you also show respect for saddam hussain etc what you need to realise is maggie was despised by millions for various matters which will never be forgiven. Yes sad for her family but i got rid of my rose tinted glasses in 1979." I didn't mourn Saddam's death just as I won't mourn Margaret Thatchers death but I also didn't celebrate it either. I found the images of him being killed very distasteful actually. All this hatred towards an elderly lady who has not been involved in the running if the country for some time now seems a bit over the top to me. Surely the time to rejoice was when she lost the election and was no longer primeminister? That I could understand. If what she did was so terrible why have successive governments not simply reversed the policies? | |||
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"I have found the people who are saying this most .. mostly on FB I add are too young to even know what she stood for or what she actually did Which is how hatred continues generation after generation. I think these threads about Mrs T have shown clearly that there are people on here who are not as tolerant & friendly as they claim to be and I am glad they have shown their true colours these past two days as we wouldn't want to meet (and maybe have sex with) someone who is that unhinged. I was very young when she was PM but unlike others I know about her policies and what she did for the country. I would love one of the haters to try and run the country successfully " Well said | |||
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"I have found the people who are saying this most .. mostly on FB I add are too young to even know what she stood for or what she actually did Which is how hatred continues generation after generation. I think these threads about Mrs T have shown clearly that there are people on here who are not as tolerant & friendly as they claim to be and I am glad they have shown their true colours these past two days as we wouldn't want to meet (and maybe have sex with) someone who is that unhinged." I'm sorry Wishy but I have to say this....your recent posts on last weeks threads have shown you to have little empathy for the living in this country, so please don't preach today about others not being tolerant or friendly about the dead. Tolerant of others and their personal circumstances is not something I would describe you as recently judging by your posts. | |||
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" All this hatred towards an elderly lady who has not been involved in the running if the country for some time now seems a bit over the top to me. Surely the time to rejoice was when she lost the election and was no longer prime minister? That I could understand. If what she did was so terrible why have successive governments not simply reversed the policies? " Well said Evie. I have read all the threads regarding the death of Baroness Thatcher and have found the sentiments _xpressed by some posters disgraceful. To have _xpressed joy when she was defeated in election is understandable, and whilst I understand that many people will not feel any sadness about her death, to rejoice in her death is contemptible. | |||
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"I have found the people who are saying this most .. mostly on FB I add are too young to even know what she stood for or what she actually did Which is how hatred continues generation after generation. I think these threads about Mrs T have shown clearly that there are people on here who are not as tolerant & friendly as they claim to be and I am glad they have shown their true colours these past two days as we wouldn't want to meet (and maybe have sex with) someone who is that unhinged. I'm sorry Wishy but I have to say this....your recent posts on last weeks threads have shown you to have little empathy for the living in this country, so please don't preach today about others not being tolerant or friendly about the dead. Tolerant of others and their personal circumstances is not something I would describe you as recently judging by your posts. " how you have wallowed in the her death is an insight into you as a person ! It has done you no favours and puts you in a position where you can hardly lecture others ! Your unfunny jokes and hypocrisy just vile | |||
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"I have found the people who are saying this most .. mostly on FB I add are too young to even know what she stood for or what she actually did Which is how hatred continues generation after generation. I think these threads about Mrs T have shown clearly that there are people on here who are not as tolerant & friendly as they claim to be and I am glad they have shown their true colours these past two days as we wouldn't want to meet (and maybe have sex with) someone who is that unhinged. I'm sorry Wishy but I have to say this....your recent posts on last weeks threads have shown you to have little empathy for the living in this country, so please don't preach today about others not being tolerant or friendly about the dead. Tolerant of others and their personal circumstances is not something I would describe you as recently judging by your posts. " You're quite right, I have very little empathy for people I don't know, but I still don't wish them dead and rejoice when it comes to pass though. | |||
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"I think whatever your political _iews are we have lost an amazing women. She may have screwed over a few people but show me a politician who hasn't. Maggie was a remarkable woman and she represented a stronger more united Britain in my opinion. We could do with a few more stronger willed people at the top. Again this is just my opinion. And I think it should be more RIP Baroness Thatcher. " | |||
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"Wallowed?" Gloried would be a better word. Smug even. All those Maggie jokes you posted was almost like you had them stored up on a notepad file just waiting for her to die. | |||
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"Good. I won't mourn or miss her. " Fuck me is it Monday all over again? | |||
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"Wallowed? Gloried would be a better word. Smug even. All those Maggie jokes you posted was almost like you had them stored up on a notepad file just waiting for her to die." No....I was posting them as I was receiving them on my phone. | |||
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"I for one thought she was brilliant. How about showing a little respect for the loss of another human being life. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want people talking about one of your loved ones like this after they're gone... Would you also show respect for saddam hussain etc what you need to realise is maggie was despised by millions for various matters which will never be forgiven. Yes sad for her family but i got rid of my rose tinted glasses in 1979. I didn't mourn Saddam's death just as I won't mourn Margaret Thatchers death but I also didn't celebrate it either. I found the images of him being killed very distasteful actually. All this hatred towards an elderly lady who has not been involved in the running if the country for some time now seems a bit over the top to me. Surely the time to rejoice was when she lost the election and was no longer primeminister? That I could understand. If what she did was so terrible why have successive governments not simply reversed the policies? " The last sentence says it all. Until Thatcher successive post war Labour Governments, and in opposition, had genuflected cravenly to the power of the Trade Union Barons..Tory Governments were equally weak, preferring to pacify and fudge. Thatcher faced up to, and delivered what everybody knew, that something had to be done. None of her reforms have been reversed. Do most of us know the names of contemporary Trade Union leaders..No,I thought not, back in the 70's we knew them all. | |||
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"I for one thought she was brilliant. How about showing a little respect for the loss of another human being life. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want people talking about one of your loved ones like this after they're gone... Would you also show respect for saddam hussain etc what you need to realise is maggie was despised by millions for various matters which will never be forgiven. Yes sad for her family but i got rid of my rose tinted glasses in 1979. I didn't mourn Saddam's death just as I won't mourn Margaret Thatchers death but I also didn't celebrate it either. I found the images of him being killed very distasteful actually. All this hatred towards an elderly lady who has not been involved in the running if the country for some time now seems a bit over the top to me. Surely the time to rejoice was when she lost the election and was no longer primeminister? That I could understand. If what she did was so terrible why have successive governments not simply reversed the policies? The last sentence says it all. Until Thatcher successive post war Labour Governments, and in opposition, had genuflected cravenly to the power of the Trade Union Barons..Tory Governments were equally weak, preferring to pacify and fudge. Thatcher faced up to, and delivered what everybody knew, that something had to be done. None of her reforms have been reversed. Do most of us know the names of contemporary Trade Union leaders..No,I thought not, back in the 70's we knew them all. " I think her actions went far further than union reform though, and had a deeper agenda. | |||
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"I have found the people who are saying this most .. mostly on FB I add are too young to even know what she stood for or what she actually did Which is how hatred continues generation after generation. I think these threads about Mrs T have shown clearly that there are people on here who are not as tolerant & friendly as they claim to be and I am glad they have shown their true colours these past two days as we wouldn't want to meet (and maybe have sex with) someone who is that unhinged. I'm sorry Wishy but I have to say this....your recent posts on last weeks threads have shown you to have little empathy for the living in this country, so please don't preach today about others not being tolerant or friendly about the dead. Tolerant of others and their personal circumstances is not something I would describe you as recently judging by your posts. how you have wallowed in the her death is an insight into you as a person ! It has done you no favours and puts you in a position where you can hardly lecture others ! Your unfunny jokes and hypocrisy just vile" It wasn't just me thinking pot/kettle then?! | |||
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"Good. I won't mourn or miss her. " Your obviously a really nice bloke being glad that someone has died. She was still a human being with kids regardless of wether you agreed with her political ideas. People like you make me sick | |||
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"We went through all this shit yesterday and while I never grassed on the guy his thread got closed, cant the same be done to this one?" Give it time lol.. I'll be off down south in a short while so I'll be keeping out of trouble as I'll be driving for four hours. | |||
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"It's been interesting to read the various threads on this topic. Many who rejoice that she's gone and many who say it is sad. The most interesting observation, for me anyway, has been the very very emotive language used against those who are glad she's gone. People, in my opinion, can feel how they like. Because they feel that way does not make them 'vile', 'disgusting', 'sick', 'evil'. I've also seen repeated comments about how she was a mother/grandmother, etc, and we should respect that. Sorry? No. Lots of women are. Lots of men are fathers and grandfathers. But unless they have done something to earn my respect I won't be told that I have to! My very first post I said I was glad she was gone. I meant it. I also stated I had sympathy for her family. I meant that also. And I won't make apologies for how I think or feel. I feel absolutely no need to defend how I think or feel. And I am fully entitled to do so. Just as others are entitled to feel the way they do. I am not 'sick', 'disgusting' or 'evil'. But I am honest. I loathed the woman. I'm hardly likely to grieve her passing." You were a lot more vociferous than that in your condemnations of her yesterday. It sounds like your initial euphoria over her passing has ebbed somewhat and you feel a little embarrassed about how you reacted to it. | |||
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"I think whatever your political _iews are we have lost an amazing women. She may have screwed over a few people but show me a politician who hasn't. Maggie was a remarkable woman and she represented a stronger more united Britain in my opinion. We could do with a few more stronger willed people at the top. Again this is just my opinion. And I think it should be more RIP Baroness Thatcher. " screwed over a few??? Try living in scotland when she was PM She treated this country and ireland like something on the bottom of her kitten heels.. She was a dragon...and i for 1 am outraged at the over the top funeral she Will receive!! Thats MY tax money thats paying for it. Yes sorry for her family they have lost a mother...let them bury her. | |||
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"Who cares, like her or hate her, she was a person, a person who has family that loved her. As far as I'm concerned, let her rest in peace. The past is the past" No it really really isn't. We still feel the impact now. And not in a good way. I posted a great deal about it yesterday so shan't repeat that. But if you want to know the threads are still there. | |||
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"Just been reading about the aftermath of the parties last night celebrating her death.....looting, obstruction, violence and vandalism......hmmmm so is that how we should treat our country and fellow human beings! What an absolute joke and for me just proves that those who have to resort to violence, jumping on the bandwagon and resort to pathetic name calling clearly are the less intelligent. No respect or value whatsoever for people who act like that." I would imagine those mindless idiots were largely too young to even remember her. It seems some people need no excuse to be a Dick. | |||
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"Yes sorry for her family they have lost a mother...let them bury her. " That's what she requested but the state wants to honour her. Even the Labour Party agree she deserves a decent send off. A Ceremonial Funeral is one step down from a full state funeral. It is essentially the same thing but without the lying in state. Only four other Prime Ministers have been given the same tribute: Churchill, The Duke of Wellington, Viscount Palmerston and William Gladstone. | |||
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"It's been interesting to read the various threads on this topic. Many who rejoice that she's gone and many who say it is sad. The most interesting observation, for me anyway, has been the very very emotive language used against those who are glad she's gone. People, in my opinion, can feel how they like. Because they feel that way does not make them 'vile', 'disgusting', 'sick', 'evil'. I've also seen repeated comments about how she was a mother/grandmother, etc, and we should respect that. Sorry? No. Lots of women are. Lots of men are fathers and grandfathers. But unless they have done something to earn my respect I won't be told that I have to! My very first post I said I was glad she was gone. I meant it. I also stated I had sympathy for her family. I meant that also. And I won't make apologies for how I think or feel. I feel absolutely no need to defend how I think or feel. And I am fully entitled to do so. Just as others are entitled to feel the way they do. I am not 'sick', 'disgusting' or 'evil'. But I am honest. I loathed the woman. I'm hardly likely to grieve her passing. You were a lot more vociferous than that in your condemnations of her yesterday. It sounds like your initial euphoria over her passing has ebbed somewhat and you feel a little embarrassed about how you reacted to it." I posted very little which was vociferous actually. My first post was as I described. I posted a lot of stuff about her economic policy and one or two jokes. None of which I retract. And I reiterate. I loathed the woman. In fact, with an absolute Passion. And I am very glad she's gone. And, finally, I'm not going to get into any long discussion about it. I retract not one word of what I said. I apologise for not one word. GLAD SHE'S GONE. | |||
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"I'm fascinated to know what she did to Scotland during her time. Please enlighten me!" its been said poll tax lost of jobs took the working n middle class away make Scotland VERY POOR she came to Scotland on a 2 day visit at a cup final i was at it we sown her the red card at half time | |||
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"Good. I won't mourn or miss her. " And what a strong woman . We need more strong woman around ...And she may not have pleased everyone I know in her time... But Who could in a job like that. She is a icon and I for one feel she did a lot for woman in the work place .She was true to the things she felt was right at the time ... And love her hate her she is now part of our history. | |||
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"I'm fascinated to know what she did to Scotland during her time. Please enlighten me!" I personally benefited. I am grateful for the opportunities that some of her policies helped me achieve. I am also saddened for people who suffered hardship. Moving forward, all the best to the people who may be still struggling. | |||
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"I'm fascinated to know what she did to Scotland during her time. Please enlighten me! I personally benefited. I am grateful for the opportunities that some of her policies helped me achieve. I am also saddened for people who suffered hardship. Moving forward, all the best to the people who may be still struggling. " same here ... and I am also sad for the people who suffered and there family's . | |||
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"I'm fascinated to know what she did to Scotland during her time. Please enlighten me!its been said poll tax lost of jobs took the working n middle class away make Scotland VERY POOR she came to Scotland on a 2 day visit at a cup final i was at it we sown her the red card at half time " and gave us the right to buy our council houses. The shift from tenant to homeowner was one that would not have happened, Most of her policies were not overturned when labour got in nor were all the privatised industries renationalised. So she could not have been all bad and no before you launch I am not a Thatcherite and I am scottish... I just respect that she was a mother and grandmother and she has passed... | |||
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"In general there is a different attitude up north to her than in the home counties. I guess thats because she was a self interested woman who wanted to make her friends rich whilst oppress the working man. If people want to despise her then its their right to do so as she did so little to inspire millions more the opposite. " There is a difference certainly between those who actually had to live through her policies (as adults) and those who were teens or children. Many, though not all on here, who were adults seem to not have their rose-tinted glasses on. However, that said, each person is entitled to their own opinion. They should not be attacked for it on a personal level on here, as has happened. I certainly have not done so yet there have been posts stating that anyone who is pleased at her passing is 'sick', 'evil', etc, and that they are glad they know of such people as they wouldn't now want to meet them. That is really personal and not discussion. I too am glad those people would not want to meet me. I think we would have very little in common. Moving on ... | |||
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"I for one thought she was brilliant. How about showing a little respect for the loss of another human being life. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want people talking about one of your loved ones like this after they're gone... Would you also show respect for saddam hussain etc what you need to realise is maggie was despised by millions for various matters which will never be forgiven. Yes sad for her family but i got rid of my rose tinted glasses in 1979. I didn't mourn Saddam's death just as I won't mourn Margaret Thatchers death but I also didn't celebrate it either. I found the images of him being killed very distasteful actually. All this hatred towards an elderly lady who has not been involved in the running if the country for some time now seems a bit over the top to me. Surely the time to rejoice was when she lost the election and was no longer primeminister? That I could understand. If what she did was so terrible why have successive governments not simply reversed the policies? The last sentence says it all. Until Thatcher successive post war Labour Governments, and in opposition, had genuflected cravenly to the power of the Trade Union Barons..Tory Governments were equally weak, preferring to pacify and fudge. Thatcher faced up to, and delivered what everybody knew, that something had to be done. None of her reforms have been reversed. Do most of us know the names of contemporary Trade Union leaders..No,I thought not, back in the 70's we knew them all. I think her actions went far further than union reform though, and had a deeper agenda." That's as maybe, I'm not an apologist for Thatcher, many of her policies I did, and continue to, disagree with. Nevertheless, the mindless, childish, hate directed at a Prime Minister who dared to think, and do, the unthinkable by taking on the Unions, is pathetic. Ageing 80's class warrior students, and generational socialists aside, any grown up political analysis would have to acknowledge that Thatcher's battle with Trade Union power was a desperately necessary for the economic health of the country. | |||
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"not every one in the north hated her, she did what needed doing at the time she had more balls than any pm since was from yorkshire i can remember labour in power in 70s we had 4 hours with elicicity 4 hours without that for several weeks. unions running country she was a leader when we were in need of one, love her or hate her she was needed at the time" | |||
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