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"One example of rigid thinking is religion, you can clearly see the problems that has brought through history to the present day" I think dogma is a better word for it. Many religions actively promote curiosity, questioning and testing of your faith. Similar to science, and you also find dogma within elements of the scientific community. | |||
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"I love this subject too. I talk quite a lot about it when I do autism training. You don’t always have to be just rigid or open minded. Flexibility of thought (or lack thereof) can be an issue. But it’s not a case of all people on the spectrum are always rigid thinking. But when we are…. I’m in the spectrum and I’m very very curious minded, flexible and love new things to learn and immerse myself in. But the occasional thing I am so rigid in, and those things seem quite silly and inconsequential to most. Eg. Up until recently (and after a LOT of work) I would literally just drive in a circle for an hour rather than turn off a “confused” SatNav as I’d been told I must use the van sat nav as it’s set up the the height/weight/length specs. I was so focused on not getting stuck under a low bridge etc, I could not contemplate that I can also read road signs etc. It’s quite fascinating how brains are wired." I second this, being AuDHD has opened a new world of explanations. I am quite flexible in terms of beliefs and opinions, however pretty rigid on rules, policies and guidelines, all of which make me excellent at my job | |||
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"I love this subject too. I talk quite a lot about it when I do autism training. You don’t always have to be just rigid or open minded. Flexibility of thought (or lack thereof) can be an issue. But it’s not a case of all people on the spectrum are always rigid thinking. But when we are…. I’m in the spectrum and I’m very very curious minded, flexible and love new things to learn and immerse myself in. But the occasional thing I am so rigid in, and those things seem quite silly and inconsequential to most. Eg. Up until recently (and after a LOT of work) I would literally just drive in a circle for an hour rather than turn off a “confused” SatNav as I’d been told I must use the van sat nav as it’s set up the the height/weight/length specs. I was so focused on not getting stuck under a low bridge etc, I could not contemplate that I can also read road signs etc. It’s quite fascinating how brains are wired." I find this so fascinating. I have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about the various traits us autistic folk are supposed to exhibit (don't get me started on empathy!), courtesy of Simon Baron-Cohen, and this is one of them. I've got a super curious mind, as do many of the autistic people I know. That desire to learn and understand is powerful and exhilarating. I try not to judge and be open-minded about people, their actions, and how their history has led to them making the choices they've made. "Rigid thinking" manifests in my need for a loose routine, a bit of predictability. | |||
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"I was lucky in school, we had a teacher that would have us discuss our opinions on topics, and choose a side. Then they assigned us to debate in favour of the thing we opposed. A simple excersise in researching why the other side believes what they do, it stuck with me for life. I'm always willing to look at a different viewpoint. I'm actively curious about what people stand for. (More likely a lesson in politics and going against your beliefs to win... ) but all the same it has a positive effect on me. " I think this is a very useful approach. You don’t really know something _properly_ unless you can argue against it better than your opponents can. To do that you need to understand their position better than them as well. You were lucky to have a teacher like that. | |||
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"As judge Judy said you have two ears and one mouth for a reason. Listen twice as much as you speak That said I am quite “black and white”. Life circumstances have made me that way and I understand the frustration of not for others but also for myself Over the last 10 years it is so much better though. I listen. Don’t always agree. But educate me on your point of views We forget that we don’t all have to agree. It’s what makes us individuals and people. I need opposing thoughts in my life to help me learn and to continue to grow " That is good you listen, yes, we forget that we dont have to agree, as it is what makes us individuals too | |||
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"...Another good example is the flat earth or the spherical earth argument, is it this or that..." Einstein introduced the concept of the observer. From the perception of a walker, cyclist, or coastal sailor. The earth is flat. But an astronaut, or an ocean sailor can't use that perspective. Everyone is aware of that, but problems occur when a simplified version of something is assumed to be the only viewpoint. Take gender, we teach schoolchildren that XX = female, XY = male. It kinda works as a simplification, but it's basically wrong. Most science is 'wrong' at some level. Newton's basic laws of motion are 'wrong'. The best bit is, he knew they were wrong, but in most cases they worked. Even Einstein's improvements, while they fixed the issues that Newton new about, are also wrong. We don't live in a reletavistic universe, we live in a quantum one. But his equations are 'accurate enough' for most uses. | |||
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"My rigidity of thinking varies by topic. I'm open to listening - at least that's what I tell myself! " Hi luna, yes, that is good you are open to listening too | |||
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"Good to see you indulging in something not narc related I could talk for hours on this, I used to assess thinking types of internal high performers. I think the fixed vs growth mindset comes down to whether you truly believe you can learn to do / achieve pretty much anything or that others are naturally gifted in a way you aren’t (physical limitations aside). The science is pretty definitive on this now, but fear makes it hard to accept. Curiosity and risk taking drives learning and growth mindset , it’s the workouts of the brain and the opposite of boredom & procrastination. The only lesson you need in this comes from babies and children. They learn and develop at a phenomenal pace as they have a growth mindset and are curious! Now personally or spiritually there’s another side to this - absolute truth. That’s where it gets complicated " That is good you used to assess it, yes, it comes down to that too | |||
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"I try to be open minded but I know I'm not all the time. I try to see all sides of an argument or understand why people hold the opinions that they do but I'm not always successful. 🤷♀️" That is good you try to be open minded too | |||
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"I'm quite rigid in my views, happy to listen and understand others views, but I don't have to agree with them in order to be friends with them " That is good you are happy to listen, yes, you dont have agree with them | |||
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"I love this subject too. I talk quite a lot about it when I do autism training. You don’t always have to be just rigid or open minded. Flexibility of thought (or lack thereof) can be an issue. But it’s not a case of all people on the spectrum are always rigid thinking. But when we are…. I’m in the spectrum and I’m very very curious minded, flexible and love new things to learn and immerse myself in. But the occasional thing I am so rigid in, and those things seem quite silly and inconsequential to most. Eg. Up until recently (and after a LOT of work) I would literally just drive in a circle for an hour rather than turn off a “confused” SatNav as I’d been told I must use the van sat nav as it’s set up the the height/weight/length specs. I was so focused on not getting stuck under a low bridge etc, I could not contemplate that I can also read road signs etc. It’s quite fascinating how brains are wired." That is good you also love this subject, yes, one doesnt always have to be rigid or open minded. I see, being curious minded is good too | |||
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