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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Interesting ro read the divided views on Thatcher. Also interesting to read the various comments on the current regime and their policies. Given the strength of feeling why is it electoral turn outs are invariably poor. Is it because there is very little to choose between the main political parties or is it because we as a nation are just apothetic?

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Personally speaking I dont vote because I think they are all as bad as each other and its about time they gave someone like me a go at being the Top Man/Woman.

Someone who hasnt gone through private education, someone who isnt wealthy, someone who lacks intelligance but makes up for it with common sence and I can be trusted.

I couldnt tell you one cabinet minister I trust.

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By *edbagioMan
over a year ago

ripon

for me;i think the pennys dropt

and folks now see that the gov

any party that is now only care for themselves ;whats in this for me;

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Interesting ro read the divided views on Thatcher. Also interesting to read the various comments on the current regime and their policies. Given the strength of feeling why is it electoral turn outs are invariably poor. Is it because there is very little to choose between the main political parties or is it because we as a nation are just apothetic?"

I think it may be a combination of the two - apathy and simply all right-leaning politics. Along with a hefty dose of political ignorance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm afraid that if you don't take part in the process of voting then you can't complain about the outcome.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Personally speaking I dont vote because I think they are all as bad as each other and its about time they gave someone like me a go at being the Top Man/Woman.

Someone who hasnt gone through private education, someone who isnt wealthy, someone who lacks intelligance but makes up for it with common sence and I can be trusted.

I couldnt tell you one cabinet minister I trust."

Would it not be better to go to the booth and spoil your paper? Of the roughly 40% of people that simply don't bother I suspect a proportion have the same view as you. What message would it send to the establishment if a vast proportion of the country registered their disatisfaction with a protest vote?

And if you feel so strongly, stand as an independent and try and make a change?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Current politicians do little to really engage the electorate

May are career politicians only interested in power for the sake of power, as a consequence they will say anything to get elected but do little once elected.

The result is that the electorate become disillusioned and in a desparate attempt to get votes politicians try to be more populist - and so

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I can, partly, understand why people don't vote when really the politics of this country has pretty much remained stagnant since 1979. However, I take the little political freedom I have seriously and have, since I turned 18, voted in every single election except ONE by-election and ONE local election (both due to illness). I have not missed a General Election since I was able to vote. I even got my brother to vote recently who had not voted for 25 years!

Spread the word!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Current politicians do little to really engage the electorate

May are career politicians only interested in power for the sake of power, as a consequence they will say anything to get elected but do little once elected.

The result is that the electorate become disillusioned and in a desparate attempt to get votes politicians try to be more populist - and so "

Should there be a minimum requirement to be an MP? What training and qualifications are required? Should there be a minimum and maximum age? What would make you vote?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally speaking I dont vote because I think they are all as bad as each other and its about time they gave someone like me a go at being the Top Man/Woman.

Someone who hasnt gone through private education, someone who isnt wealthy, someone who lacks intelligance but makes up for it with common sence and I can be trusted.

I couldnt tell you one cabinet minister I trust."

(See quote) This is why electoral turn outs are so bad. The staggering amount of ignorance about the basic realities of running a country as displayed above, that ANYONE could do a better job than who we've got in charge is debatable. Basic literacy is needed for starters. Common SENSE innit?

Not every politician has come from a privileged background. Most in fact come from other backgrounds and jobs. The trouble is that people think they are just voting for Cameron or Miliband etc. When they are actually voting for their local MP. But I assume that most people shut the door in the prospective candidates faces when they come canvassing, rather than quiz them on what they will do/have done for them.

Politics is boring, everyone knows that, they're all as bad as each other, when's Xfactor on?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I think it is a combination of apathy and ignorance.

We will soon be at the text/telephone vote stage at a live show with all of the candidates and then maybe people will vote. Probably only if they are made to eat kangaroo bollocks or something though.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I'm afraid that if you don't take part in the process of voting then you can't complain about the outcome. "

I get ya point but if we all voted like I do by not voting then they would have to sit up and listen wouldnt they?

I find your local councillor willing and helpful but when they go to London and shout posh stuff at each other they just go round in circles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem with democracy is that partys only make popular policies as they always have to have one eye on re-election. Look at what the Tories are currently doing. Whether you agree or not its safe to say that its unpopular, therefore Labour will be back in next time. 5 years isnt long enough to see if the changes actually work or not.

I know a civil servant who advices the government (whoever is in power) and his opinion is that for democracy to truly be effective the term would have to be bewteen 10 and 15 years. Wont ever happen though.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"I'm afraid that if you don't take part in the process of voting then you can't complain about the outcome.

I get ya point but if we all voted like I do by not voting then they would have to sit up and listen wouldnt they?

I find your local councillor willing and helpful but when they go to London and shout posh stuff at each other they just go round in circles."

Not voting is not voting. You are making no statement whatsoever by not using your vote. If you want to protest you actually have to take action. Inaction is nothing.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I'm afraid that if you don't take part in the process of voting then you can't complain about the outcome.

I get ya point but if we all voted like I do by not voting then they would have to sit up and listen wouldnt they?

I find your local councillor willing and helpful but when they go to London and shout posh stuff at each other they just go round in circles.

Not voting is not voting. You are making no statement whatsoever by not using your vote. If you want to protest you actually have to take action. Inaction is nothing."

Ive really tried by looking into what they offer locally and nationally and I cant seem to trust them still.

Its obviously hypothetical but what if we all refused to vote. Its absured I know.

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over a year ago

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"I'm afraid that if you don't take part in the process of voting then you can't complain about the outcome.

I get ya point but if we all voted like I do by not voting then they would have to sit up and listen wouldnt they?

I find your local councillor willing and helpful but when they go to London and shout posh stuff at each other they just go round in circles.

Not voting is not voting. You are making no statement whatsoever by not using your vote. If you want to protest you actually have to take action. Inaction is nothing.

Ive really tried by looking into what they offer locally and nationally and I cant seem to trust them still.

Its obviously hypothetical but what if we all refused to vote. Its absured I know."

But that kind of thinking is pie in the sky - and no sane person trusts any politician! LOL They are not there for trust - they are there to do a job and not to balls it up too much. I vote for the ones I think may follow SOME of the policies I agree to. I know they will all renege on some of them - sometimes the political or economic climate is such that they CANNOT actually accomplish all they promise. But as long as they try to do something for the good of the majority (because you cannot please everyone) then that is all we can hope for. Churchill once famously said; "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no such thing as democracy in this day and age. Literally people power. Little point in voting as the coalition shows. Many voted on policy only for a massive U turn and now stuck with a Tory leader no one voted for. Same the world over. People realise its a farce so abstain.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Interesting ro read the divided views on Thatcher. Also interesting to read the various comments on the current regime and their policies. Given the strength of feeling why is it electoral turn outs are invariably poor. Is it because there is very little to choose between the main political parties or is it because we as a nation are just apothetic?"

its because politics is pathetic!!!

if i want to listen to a bunch of children make 'my dads is bigger than your dad' statements i would work in a school.

If they just focused on the facts, were truthful in their manifestos etc then maybe i would be more interested but a the moment it bores me, as do all the political threads on here which invariably end up as slanging matches.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I'm afraid that if you don't take part in the process of voting then you can't complain about the outcome.

I get ya point but if we all voted like I do by not voting then they would have to sit up and listen wouldnt they?

I find your local councillor willing and helpful but when they go to London and shout posh stuff at each other they just go round in circles.

Not voting is not voting. You are making no statement whatsoever by not using your vote. If you want to protest you actually have to take action. Inaction is nothing.

Ive really tried by looking into what they offer locally and nationally and I cant seem to trust them still.

Its obviously hypothetical but what if we all refused to vote. Its absured I know.

But that kind of thinking is pie in the sky - and no sane person trusts any politician! LOL They are not there for trust - they are there to do a job and not to balls it up too much. I vote for the ones I think may follow SOME of the policies I agree to. I know they will all renege on some of them - sometimes the political or economic climate is such that they CANNOT actually accomplish all they promise. But as long as they try to do something for the good of the majority (because you cannot please everyone) then that is all we can hope for. Churchill once famously said; "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.""

Well at the moment if I had to vote tomorrow I wouldnt know where to start.

The only time I voted was when a local turned up at my house, pissed and bloodied where some locals had jumped him.

I thought 'Fuck it - he's good, I would of gone home after getting decked'. I also like Blue, its my fav colour.

If I had to vote tommorow nationally, who do YOU suggest I vote for and why?

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"I'm afraid that if you don't take part in the process of voting then you can't complain about the outcome.

I get ya point but if we all voted like I do by not voting then they would have to sit up and listen wouldnt they?

I find your local councillor willing and helpful but when they go to London and shout posh stuff at each other they just go round in circles.

Not voting is not voting. You are making no statement whatsoever by not using your vote. If you want to protest you actually have to take action. Inaction is nothing.

Ive really tried by looking into what they offer locally and nationally and I cant seem to trust them still.

Its obviously hypothetical but what if we all refused to vote. Its absured I know.

But that kind of thinking is pie in the sky - and no sane person trusts any politician! LOL They are not there for trust - they are there to do a job and not to balls it up too much. I vote for the ones I think may follow SOME of the policies I agree to. I know they will all renege on some of them - sometimes the political or economic climate is such that they CANNOT actually accomplish all they promise. But as long as they try to do something for the good of the majority (because you cannot please everyone) then that is all we can hope for. Churchill once famously said; "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."

Well at the moment if I had to vote tomorrow I wouldnt know where to start.

The only time I voted was when a local turned up at my house, pissed and bloodied where some locals had jumped him.

I thought 'Fuck it - he's good, I would of gone home after getting decked'. I also like Blue, its my fav colour.

If I had to vote tommorow nationally, who do YOU suggest I vote for and why?"

I would NEVER suggest to anyone who they should vote for. I read the manifestos and vote for the party I agree with most and has the greatest chance of a number of seats in Parliament which can make a difference. And that, often, makes it very hard for me to decide who to vote for. I also never discuss who I have voted for - ever! Not even with closest friends/family. Who I vote for is between me and the ballot box. Always has been.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I really do think more people need to find out what politics involves. We collectivise and hand over power to others to make decisions and do jobs it would be too difficult to do alone.

I may have to start running participative democracy workshops again, except that I stopped because people found it too hard to reach agreement and make decisions.

If you don't vote, if you don't voice YOUR opinion through peaceful protest, petitions or the ballot box you are ignoring a right that many died for and abdicating responsibility for the things that happen that affect your life.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

but what if there are no candidates you blieve in?

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I'm afraid that if you don't take part in the process of voting then you can't complain about the outcome.

I get ya point but if we all voted like I do by not voting then they would have to sit up and listen wouldnt they?

I find your local councillor willing and helpful but when they go to London and shout posh stuff at each other they just go round in circles.

Not voting is not voting. You are making no statement whatsoever by not using your vote. If you want to protest you actually have to take action. Inaction is nothing.

Ive really tried by looking into what they offer locally and nationally and I cant seem to trust them still.

Its obviously hypothetical but what if we all refused to vote. Its absured I know.

But that kind of thinking is pie in the sky - and no sane person trusts any politician! LOL They are not there for trust - they are there to do a job and not to balls it up too much. I vote for the ones I think may follow SOME of the policies I agree to. I know they will all renege on some of them - sometimes the political or economic climate is such that they CANNOT actually accomplish all they promise. But as long as they try to do something for the good of the majority (because you cannot please everyone) then that is all we can hope for. Churchill once famously said; "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."

Well at the moment if I had to vote tomorrow I wouldnt know where to start.

The only time I voted was when a local turned up at my house, pissed and bloodied where some locals had jumped him.

I thought 'Fuck it - he's good, I would of gone home after getting decked'. I also like Blue, its my fav colour.

If I had to vote tommorow nationally, who do YOU suggest I vote for and why?

I would NEVER suggest to anyone who they should vote for. I read the manifestos and vote for the party I agree with most and has the greatest chance of a number of seats in Parliament which can make a difference. And that, often, makes it very hard for me to decide who to vote for. I also never discuss who I have voted for - ever! Not even with closest friends/family. Who I vote for is between me and the ballot box. Always has been."

I fully get the privacy bit as people take offence sometimes when you used your vote to vote for someone they didnt. Thats just fucking daft. Free world aint it?

Id probably vote for whoever is the greenist as I think thats important for our kids and Im not even a hippy.

Given the choice though, I wouldnt vote.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"I'm afraid that if you don't take part in the process of voting then you can't complain about the outcome.

I get ya point but if we all voted like I do by not voting then they would have to sit up and listen wouldnt they?

I find your local councillor willing and helpful but when they go to London and shout posh stuff at each other they just go round in circles.

Not voting is not voting. You are making no statement whatsoever by not using your vote. If you want to protest you actually have to take action. Inaction is nothing.

Ive really tried by looking into what they offer locally and nationally and I cant seem to trust them still.

Its obviously hypothetical but what if we all refused to vote. Its absured I know.

But that kind of thinking is pie in the sky - and no sane person trusts any politician! LOL They are not there for trust - they are there to do a job and not to balls it up too much. I vote for the ones I think may follow SOME of the policies I agree to. I know they will all renege on some of them - sometimes the political or economic climate is such that they CANNOT actually accomplish all they promise. But as long as they try to do something for the good of the majority (because you cannot please everyone) then that is all we can hope for. Churchill once famously said; "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."

Well at the moment if I had to vote tomorrow I wouldnt know where to start.

The only time I voted was when a local turned up at my house, pissed and bloodied where some locals had jumped him.

I thought 'Fuck it - he's good, I would of gone home after getting decked'. I also like Blue, its my fav colour.

If I had to vote tommorow nationally, who do YOU suggest I vote for and why?

I would NEVER suggest to anyone who they should vote for. I read the manifestos and vote for the party I agree with most and has the greatest chance of a number of seats in Parliament which can make a difference. And that, often, makes it very hard for me to decide who to vote for. I also never discuss who I have voted for - ever! Not even with closest friends/family. Who I vote for is between me and the ballot box. Always has been.

I fully get the privacy bit as people take offence sometimes when you used your vote to vote for someone they didnt. Thats just fucking daft. Free world aint it?

Id probably vote for whoever is the greenist as I think thats important for our kids and Im not even a hippy.

Given the choice though, I wouldnt vote."

I just think of the people who died to give us our vote. From the Tolpuddle Martyrs who wanted to form a union, to the Chartists, to Emily Davis (suffragette who threw herself under the King's horse). Many people struggled to get us the vote. The freedoms we enjoy and take for granted today - the freedom to assemble (Peterloo Massacre anyone?). I always vote - because if you don't use it, sooner or later, you lose it. If no one voted then there would be some bright spark who would come up with another system, whereby, we would have NO vote. And that is a step back into the dark ages.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"but what if there are no candidates you blieve in?"

There are never any candidates I believe in. But then I do not vote for an individual but a political stance. I may not agree with all of it but the one I agree with most and which seems most likely to get the most votes, is the one I vote for. I never vote for personalities - it's not the X Factor.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"but what if there are no candidates you blieve in?"

None at all? There are always some independent candidates that might have something that you believe in. They might not make it to PM or even into government but if more of us use our vote on those we do believe in then slowly we might see politics change to reflect more views.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I read an article recently that said that never before in modern British political history have so many young people under the age of 25 chosen not to vote.....the article was about the last general election, and questioned why after 13 years in opposition why the Tories hadn't trounced the incumbent political party at the time.

With increasing youth unemployment, now said to be in excess of 1.25 million, what chances of them bothering to vote at any general election in the future?

If we continue to alienate a whole generation and push them onto a scrapheap, the very best we can expect is that they don't vote...the very worse we can expect?....well look at the recent riots and weep for our democracy.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"I read an article recently that said that never before in modern British political history have so many young people under the age of 25 chosen not to vote.....the article was about the last general election, and questioned why after 13 years in opposition why the Tories hadn't trounced the incumbent political party at the time.

With increasing youth unemployment, now said to be in excess of 1.25 million, what chances of them bothering to vote at any general election in the future?

If we continue to alienate a whole generation and push them onto a scrapheap, the very best we can expect is that they don't vote...the very worse we can expect?....well look at the recent riots and weep for our democracy."

Then our job as parents is to ensure that we educate our children about it. Explain what voting is, what democracy is, why it is important.

I did. My daughter has voted ever since turning 18 - we went together. It was rather exciting for her.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I read an article recently that said that never before in modern British political history have so many young people under the age of 25 chosen not to vote.....the article was about the last general election, and questioned why after 13 years in opposition why the Tories hadn't trounced the incumbent political party at the time.

With increasing youth unemployment, now said to be in excess of 1.25 million, what chances of them bothering to vote at any general election in the future?

If we continue to alienate a whole generation and push them onto a scrapheap, the very best we can expect is that they don't vote...the very worse we can expect?....well look at the recent riots and weep for our democracy.

Then our job as parents is to ensure that we educate our children about it. Explain what voting is, what democracy is, why it is important.

I did. My daughter has voted ever since turning 18 - we went together. It was rather exciting for her."

Yes it is. We have made an effort to try and ensure all of the children in our sphere know about politics and can shape their thoughts and questions. Start local and small and get them involved in the school council, then the local council and then national politics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I read an article recently that said that never before in modern British political history have so many young people under the age of 25 chosen not to vote.....the article was about the last general election, and questioned why after 13 years in opposition why the Tories hadn't trounced the incumbent political party at the time.

With increasing youth unemployment, now said to be in excess of 1.25 million, what chances of them bothering to vote at any general election in the future?

If we continue to alienate a whole generation and push them onto a scrapheap, the very best we can expect is that they don't vote...the very worse we can expect?....well look at the recent riots and weep for our democracy."

Paradoxically, alienating people could be an effective way of motivating them to instigate change.

I don't think education is really the issue - the youth parliament is a horrible vehicle - turns passionate young people into politically biased media trained machines.

I'd say the problem is more that politics is now a career - people don't enter into it to stand for anything they believe in, instead very well educated politicians learn how to talk crap about talking crap, and apart from themselves that has little interest to anyone. Unfortunately the education aspects are based on this too - they teach about understanding the system rather than seeking to inspire young people that they could change it.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Personally speaking I dont vote because I think they are all as bad as each other and its about time they gave someone like me a go at being the Top Man/Woman.

Someone who hasnt gone through private education, someone who isnt wealthy, someone who lacks intelligance but makes up for it with common sence and I can be trusted.

I couldnt tell you one cabinet minister I trust.

(See quote) This is why electoral turn outs are so bad. The staggering amount of ignorance about the basic realities of running a country as displayed above, that ANYONE could do a better job than who we've got in charge is debatable. Basic literacy is needed for starters. Common SENSE innit?

Not every politician has come from a privileged background. Most in fact come from other backgrounds and jobs. The trouble is that people think they are just voting for Cameron or Miliband etc. When they are actually voting for their local MP. But I assume that most people shut the door in the prospective candidates faces when they come canvassing, rather than quiz them on what they will do/have done for them.

Politics is boring, everyone knows that, they're all as bad as each other, when's Xfactor on?"

Ooooo Ooooo Ooooh Jodie .... dunno but ... Britains Got Talent starts Saturday.... yayyyyyyy I'll be away in London tho ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We don't live in a real democracy anyway ... not considering we are nominally a monarchy and the government generally doesn't do what it promises, no matter who they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I read an article recently that said that never before in modern British political history have so many young people under the age of 25 chosen not to vote.....the article was about the last general election, and questioned why after 13 years in opposition why the Tories hadn't trounced the incumbent political party at the time.

With increasing youth unemployment, now said to be in excess of 1.25 million, what chances of them bothering to vote at any general election in the future?

If we continue to alienate a whole generation and push them onto a scrapheap, the very best we can expect is that they don't vote...the very worse we can expect?....well look at the recent riots and weep for our democracy.

Then our job as parents is to ensure that we educate our children about it. Explain what voting is, what democracy is, why it is important.

I did. My daughter has voted ever since turning 18 - we went together. It was rather exciting for her.

Yes it is. We have made an effort to try and ensure all of the children in our sphere know about politics and can shape their thoughts and questions. Start local and small and get them involved in the school council, then the local council and then national politics."

School Councils are a very effective introduction to politics. They teach children that it doesn't matter what they stand for, but how many friends they have. And that no mater how often they meet, ultimately somebody else has the real power.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I'm afraid that if you don't take part in the process of voting then you can't complain about the outcome.

I get ya point but if we all voted like I do by not voting then they would have to sit up and listen wouldnt they?

I find your local councillor willing and helpful but when they go to London and shout posh stuff at each other they just go round in circles."

What does 'posh' mean ?

Extended vocabulary ?

Truffles ?

Fois de Gras ?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I'm afraid that if you don't take part in the process of voting then you can't complain about the outcome.

I get ya point but if we all voted like I do by not voting then they would have to sit up and listen wouldnt they?

I find your local councillor willing and helpful but when they go to London and shout posh stuff at each other they just go round in circles.

What does 'posh' mean ?

Extended vocabulary ?

Truffles ?

Fois de Gras ? "

Tickets to Gylndebourne dear, what else could it mean?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I really do think more people need to find out what politics involves. We collectivise and hand over power to others to make decisions and do jobs it would be too difficult to do alone.

I may have to start running participative democracy workshops again, except that I stopped because people found it too hard to reach agreement and make decisions.

If you don't vote, if you don't voice YOUR opinion through peaceful protest, petitions or the ballot box you are ignoring a right that many died for and abdicating responsibility for the things that happen that affect your life.

"

some may see not voting as a peaceful

protest.

a spoilt ballot card is a vote nonetheless. a

vote for 'none of the above' is a vote.

sadly they don't count them. more might do

it if they did.

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Adding 'none of the above' would be very interesting.

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Politics isn't just about being PM. It starts at local level, don't like your councillors then get yourself on the ballot and run for office. If you don't vote because you don't "trust" politicians then why don't you get off your arse and make it better! Life has contributors, enablers and whiners. If you're a whiner then you too are part of the problem! Anyone who's of sound mind 18 and over can run for MP as an Independant, or as a local councillor or an MEP.

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"Politics isn't just about being PM. It starts at local level, don't like your councillors then get yourself on the ballot and run for office. If you don't vote because you don't "trust" politicians then why don't you get off your arse and make it better! Life has contributors, enablers and whiners. If you're a whiner then you too are part of the problem! Anyone who's of sound mind 18 and over can run for MP as an Independant, or as a local councillor or an MEP. "

Correction ...anyone who can afford the 3500 can run. Like any other profession politics is a business and the players are all just aiming to feather their nests. I think if you are an mp you should be barred from sitting on think tanks. Committees etc as they are all corrupt

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Current politicians tend to panda to the press and opt for the middle ground and just try to appeal to the populist view.

It leaves us with clones of boring non plus characters who are just out to become career politicians.

Maggie had her own principles and stood by them, be they correct or not.

Pity we don't have more political characters like her these days.

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"Politics isn't just about being PM. It starts at local level, don't like your councillors then get yourself on the ballot and run for office. If you don't vote because you don't "trust" politicians then why don't you get off your arse and make it better! Life has contributors, enablers and whiners. If you're a whiner then you too are part of the problem! Anyone who's of sound mind 18 and over can run for MP as an Independant, or as a local councillor or an MEP.

Correction ...anyone who can afford the 3500 can run. Like any other profession politics is a business and the players are all just aiming to feather their nests. I think if you are an mp you should be barred from sitting on think tanks. Committees etc as they are all corrupt"

Correction it doesn' t cost 3500 to run as a local councillor it doesn't require a deposit at all!

Do you have any examples of think tank corruption? Or indeed what think tanks you're talking about? Don't like it? Get involved

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"Politics isn't just about being PM. It starts at local level, don't like your councillors then get yourself on the ballot and run for office. If you don't vote because you don't "trust" politicians then why don't you get off your arse and make it better! Life has contributors, enablers and whiners. If you're a whiner then you too are part of the problem! Anyone who's of sound mind 18 and over can run for MP as an Independant, or as a local councillor or an MEP.

Correction ...anyone who can afford the 3500 can run. Like any other profession politics is a business and the players are all just aiming to feather their nests. I think if you are an mp you should be barred from sitting on think tanks. Committees etc as they are all corrupt

Correction it doesn' t cost 3500 to run as a local councillor it doesn't require a deposit at all!

Do you have any examples of think tank corruption? Or indeed what think tanks you're talking about? Don't like it? Get involved"

There are numerous instances of 'conflicts of interests' where mps sit on shareholders boards whilst simultaneously voting on policy which could affect their share price.

I was under the impression you had to pay £3.5k to register

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"Current politicians tend to panda to the press and opt for the middle ground and just try to appeal to the populist view.

It leaves us with clones of boring non plus characters who are just out to become career politicians.

Maggie had her own principles and stood by them, be they correct or not.

Pity we don't have more political characters like her these days. "

When Michael Foot died, she said "that's one less of us" she had deep respect for Benn and Foot because they said what they believed not what got them votes.

The general population moan about politicians who're bland and about the ones that stand up for themselves, they then sweepingly say they don't trust any of them. Politics is in this state not because of politicians but because of the people who would rather spend 50p voting for a bland singer via text and not for a person who might stand up for what you need.

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"Politics isn't just about being PM. It starts at local level, don't like your councillors then get yourself on the ballot and run for office. If you don't vote because you don't "trust" politicians then why don't you get off your arse and make it better! Life has contributors, enablers and whiners. If you're a whiner then you too are part of the problem! Anyone who's of sound mind 18 and over can run for MP as an Independant, or as a local councillor or an MEP.

Correction ...anyone who can afford the 3500 can run. Like any other profession politics is a business and the players are all just aiming to feather their nests. I think if you are an mp you should be barred from sitting on think tanks. Committees etc as they are all corrupt

Correction it doesn' t cost 3500 to run as a local councillor it doesn't require a deposit at all!

Do you have any examples of think tank corruption? Or indeed what think tanks you're talking about? Don't like it? Get involved

There are numerous instances of 'conflicts of interests' where mps sit on shareholders boards whilst simultaneously voting on policy which could affect their share price.

I was under the impression you had to pay £3.5k to register "

Politicians have to declare their shares, conflict of interest is therefore public domain. As a general rule, everything

A senior politician does affects all share prices!

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"Current politicians tend to panda to the press and opt for the middle ground and just try to appeal to the populist view.

It leaves us with clones of boring non plus characters who are just out to become career politicians.

Maggie had her own principles and stood by them, be they correct or not.

Pity we don't have more political characters like her these days.

When Michael Foot died, she said "that's one less of us" she had deep respect for Benn and Foot because they said what they believed not what got them votes.

The general population moan about politicians who're bland and about the ones that stand up for themselves, they then sweepingly say they don't trust any of them. Politics is in this state not because of politicians but because of the people who would rather spend 50p voting for a bland singer via text and not for a person who might stand up for what you need."

Absolutely

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