FabSwingers.com forum: Baroness Margaret Thatcher

By *kywatcher OP Man
over a year ago

Southwick

Her death just announced....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very sad news. RIP Mrs T.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

sad news. RIP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bye bye Maggie............ Meanwhile, I'll take a chair in the corner, as this will turn out an interesting thread I assume

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just saw this, Rip iron lady

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bye bye Maggie............ Meanwhile, I'll take a chair in the corner, as this will turn out an interesting thread I assume

It's the other thread that has all the vitriol on it. This one seems to be for the more refined among us.

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By *kywatcher OP Man
over a year ago

Southwick

"Bye bye Maggie............ Meanwhile, I'll take a chair in the corner, as this will turn out an interesting thread I assume

It's the other thread that has all the vitriol on it. This one seems to be for the more refined among us. "

The other thread and this one that I started were posted at the same time.

Looking at the other thread title is does seem a little insensitive. I neither liked nor disliked Lady Thatcher but to be gloating over the death of an elderly woman.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rip lady thatcher! Very sad news indeed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rip lady thatcher! Very sad news indeed "

Unbelievable, George Galloway (MP) has commented "Tramp the dirt down"!!

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

RIP, Baroness Thatcher - whether I agreed with all of her politics is not important. She was a truly inspiring woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rip lady thatcher! Very sad news indeed

Unbelievable, George Galloway (MP) has commented "Tramp the dirt down"!!

Maybe that's how he does things in his litter tray but we're not all like him.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

very sad and I shall respect your passing with the same dignity as I would any other 87 year old lady.

sleep well x

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"very sad and I shall respect your passing with the same dignity as I would any other 87 year old lady.

sleep well x"

As always - well put!

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By *pecifically1Woman
over a year ago

Hull

"very sad and I shall respect your passing with the same dignity as I would any other 87 year old lady.

sleep well x"

Eloquently put...

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By *pecifically1Woman
over a year ago

Hull

"RIP, Baroness Thatcher - whether I agreed with all of her politics is not important. She was a truly inspiring woman."

She was a woman, a grandma and a mother...and that in itself demands respect...

like it or not, she shaped the world

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

this must be the kind hearted people thread the others running not so pleasant RIP MRS THATCHER

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"RIP, Baroness Thatcher - whether I agreed with all of her politics is not important. She was a truly inspiring woman.

She was a woman, a grandma and a mother...and that in itself demands respect...

like it or not, she shaped the world"

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"this must be the kind hearted people thread the others running not so pleasant RIP MRS THATCHER

It is interesting that the pleasant thread is still open...

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"RIP, Baroness Thatcher - whether I agreed with all of her politics is not important. She was a truly inspiring woman.

She was a woman, a grandma and a mother...and that in itself demands respect...

like it or not, she shaped the world"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"this must be the kind hearted people thread the others running not so pleasant RIP MRS THATCHER

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She will still go down as a icon .

no matter how much some don't like her .. a lot did .. she was a very powerful woman in her time.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"this must be the kind hearted people thread the others running not so pleasant RIP MRS THATCHER

She will still go down as a icon .

no matter how much some don't like her .. a lot did .. she was a very powerful woman in her time."
You know it is interesting that in her time including the late eighties it was almost impossible to buy a maternity business suit - how times have changed for women! And she modelled that women can achieve anything if they put their mind to it. For that alone I admired her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently she's been in Hell for only a couple of hours and has closed 3 furnaces already.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rust in peace

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She was a remarkable woman who climbed the political ladder on her own merit without out sleaze or underhand rumors of corruption.

On a lighter side I loved the caricature of her in Spitting Image AS the wipe lasing Dominatrix... LOL

RIP.

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By *owlmMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Her death just announced...."

She was a woman, not a lady but I am sad for anyones death. A death is not a nice thing to happen to anyone other than someone incredibly bad like a world dictator or terrorist or something.

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By *awkeye and HotlipsCouple
over a year ago

Takeley

Put the Great into Great Britain and made us proud and the envy of the World again. A Great Britain who will never be forgotten. My thoughts are with her family on this sad day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

R.I.P an amazing human and leader

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Already threads posted on this folks not being spoilsport just saying.

Sad loss for her family but for me its not caused so much division with her actions and policies.

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

Evil bitch who did her best to ruin this country but you must blame the imcompetent labour goverment that went before letting her in

She might of done some good putting the unions in their place but undone by all her bad

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Already threads posted on this folks not being spoilsport just saying.

Sad loss for her family but for me its not caused so much division with her actions and policies."
I can completely understand that people come from different camps re this politician. I just find it difficult to accept that people can be so nasty about a deceased person at personal level.

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By *etanreadyCouple
over a year ago

dover

"Put the Great into Great Britain and made us proud and the envy of the World again. A Great Britain who will never be forgotten. My thoughts are with her family on this sad day. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Already threads posted on this folks not being spoilsport just saying.

Sad loss for her family but for me its not caused so much division with her actions and policies.I can completely understand that people come from different camps re this politician. I just find it difficult to accept that people can be so nasty about a deceased person at personal level."

As much as it saddens me, theres a lot of that on here these days, little empathy, loads of nasty opinions.....not good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Already threads posted on this folks not being spoilsport just saying.

As much as it saddens me, theres a lot of that on here these days, little empathy, loads of nasty opinions.....not good."

Its not just on here

It appears that nowadays people seem unable to present their _iew without bile or vitriol - there seems a need to express _iews in extreme terms, dislike or disagreement coming out as hatred

This is something that has arisen with the rise of social media and celebrity over the last decade

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

RIP Lady Thatcher.

Wether you agreed with her policies or not She made up her mind what she wanted to do and did it. I wish the polititians of today had a backbone like she did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whatever your political beliefs the atrocious comments on here and facebook for a woman that stood up for her beliefs are absolutely disgusting and disrespectful. We need more strong, powerful and intelligent women to act as role models. She was a true icon. Whether I agree with all her politics is another matter however she took on a difficult job, she stood by her convictions I wonder for all of those ranting now and then about her decisions and actions.....what did you do about the situation? Did you make a difference? Take any action? Talking and doing are completely different things and I know who I respect and value.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rest in peace Maggie

Our 1st female prime minister and the biggest balls of them all

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By *rtemisiaWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

I grew up with MT in power and grew to hate so much of what she stood for, but even so, I admired her spirit. I wonder how many years will pass before we have another female PM.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rest in peace Maggie

Our 1st female prime minister and the biggest balls of them all "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Evil bitch who did her best to ruin this country but you must blame the imcompetent labour goverment that went before letting her in

She might of done some good putting the unions in their place but undone by all her bad "

Evil bitch? Really! She tried to ruin the country.....was that on the manifesto? Let's not stoop to insults...make an intelligent comment but pathetic namecalling only reflects on you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"RIP Lady Thatcher.

Wether you agreed with her policies or not She made up her mind what she wanted to do and did it. I wish the polititians of today had a backbone like she did.

Yep!

She'd have certainly got my vote had I been a little older!!

RIP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rest in peace Maggie

Our 1st female prime minister and the biggest balls of them all "

Our only female prime minister and a better country because of her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She did stand up for this country. She wouldn't back down and lead by principle

R.I.P maggie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Milk anyone?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

she shaped the world - but she set in train a long line of dominos that set us free to .. be exploited.

In a complex world we need complex rules - and people with her brand of politics - talk simplicty to drive a coach and horses through much of what is decent and humane in the name of merit, freedom, the individual - whereas the reality is that she set the strong on the weak to take the country back to misery of victorian times .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"RIP, Baroness Thatcher - whether I agreed with all of her politics is not important. She was a truly inspiring woman.

She was a woman, a grandma and a mother...and that in itself demands respect...

like it or not, she shaped the world"

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By *rumalexMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"RIP, Baroness Thatcher - whether I agreed with all of her politics is not important. She was a truly inspiring woman.

She was a woman, a grandma and a mother...and that in itself demands respect...

like it or not, she shaped the world

to be honest i'm neither sad nor upset about thatcher going, but in what way did she change the world?

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"RIP, Baroness Thatcher - whether I agreed with all of her politics is not important. She was a truly inspiring woman.

She was a woman, a grandma and a mother...and that in itself demands respect...

like it or not, she shaped the world

to be honest i'm neither sad nor upset about thatcher going, but in what way did she change the world?"

Some may argue that it was as a result of her economic policies (which caused a recession) but those policies were adapted from Reagan's who, in turn, used Milton Friedman's economic model (the Chicago School).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whatever your political beliefs the atrocious comments on here and facebook for a woman that stood up for her beliefs are absolutely disgusting and disrespectful. We need more strong, powerful and intelligent women to act as role models. She was a true icon. Whether I agree with all her politics is another matter however she took on a difficult job, she stood by her convictions I wonder for all of those ranting now and then about her decisions and actions.....what did you do about the situation? Did you make a difference? Take any action? Talking and doing are completely different things and I know who I respect and value. "

Can't argue with any of that. Well said.

I wasn't a fan of Mrs T in the years she was in power but I was young and easily inexperienced in such things at the time. As the years have passed and I've seen Prime Ministers of both parties come and go I have come to realise that Margaret Thatcher was a breed apart. She stood her ground like a dog with a bone and if she believed she was right she pressed on with her policies. The only time I can recall a complete turnaround was over the Poll Tax, but even that was replaced with what we have now - the Council Tax - and no party has reversed that policy since.

She knew that closing the pits would bring severe depression and hardship to those areas affected by pit closures but she also knew that keeping unprofitable pits open was unsustainable. Many of the pit villages up here are now upmarket places to live, they are pleasant and show little sign of becoming the 'ghost towns' they were predicted to become. People have an uncanny knack of surviving and one only has to look at the Quayside in Newcastle to see how regeneration works and works well.

She was Prime Minister in a different era when unions thought more of their own power base than they did of their member's wellbeing, and Thatcher knew they had to be reigned in else we would face more crippling strikes when we were already on our knees.

We know a lot more about the Falklands conflict now than we did 30 years ago and it is a documented fact that had we lost just one more capital ship we'd have lost that conflict but the alternative was to allow a military junta to invade British sovereign territory and do nothing about it. She knew that would be political suicide and she had no choice but to send our troops south to reclaim the islands - and that is was the right thing to do for the Falkland Islanders.

Did she make mistakes in her time in office? Sure, of course she did, as have all the Prime Ministers before her and since, but her true lasting legacy will be that she governed this country the way in needed to be governed.

Her death has pleased some people - as evidenced on here and other social networking sites - and that was to be expected, but I hope they have their day in 'celebration' at her passing and then tomorrow forget about it and get on with their lives. It would be a crying shame that if even now, with her demise, that some people allowed their lives and friendships to be fractured irreparably by it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't argue with any of that. Well said.

Nice one!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Evil woman, ask the miners, ask the families of the 96 who died at Hillsborough, i lost 2 good friends there and was in the same pen as them, she was instrumental in the cover up. Rot in hell you evil bitch. JFT 96.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

I'm not taking pleasure in her death, but I'm not going to condemn anyone who is. Margaret 'Nelson Mandela is a terrorist' Thatcher was not a good person, and all this guff about standing up for her principles, being strong, having balls etc does not change that.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Bye bye Maggie............ Meanwhile, I'll take a chair in the corner, as this will turn out an interesting thread I assume

It's the other thread that has all the vitriol on it. This one seems to be for the more refined among us. "

Whilst the 'other' thread was much more popular.

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

I was 12 when Mrs Thatcher became PM, she was the Prime Minister of my formative years, a great role model for a bratty teen when I took my head out of my arse long enough to notice! I shed a tear when she was ousted from office and I don't mind saying I had to wipe my eyes this afternoon when I read that she had passed away...for everyone ranting how she ruined the country, there's probably just as many like me who consider themselves to be better off because of the Thatcherite influence. Sleep well Mrs T, poor old Dennis will get no rest in heaven now!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I thought he meant that woman in the Black Eyed Peas with the Lovely Lady Lumps ......

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"Already threads posted on this folks not being spoilsport just saying.

Makes a pleasant change because there are some very nasty posts on this forum, that show little empathy or kindness for the living in this country...

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"I thought he meant that woman in the Black Eyed Peas with the Lovely Lady Lumps ...... "

ooohhh I luvs her.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

she became pm at the same time i left school and left when i was a husband with two kids. although very few of her policies affected me directly i can see why some are rejoicing in her death. that's for their conscience.she did appear to fuck up a lot of people's lives. one point, I've seen a few say her career 'demands respect'. i thought that had to be earned? she obviously fell way short with some. they may have a point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i bet arthur scargill cant wait to piss on her grave!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Evil bitch who did her best to ruin this country but you must blame the imcompetent labour goverment that went before letting her in

She might of done some good putting the unions in their place but undone by all her bad

Evil bitch? Really! She tried to ruin the country.....was that on the manifesto? Let's not stoop to insults...make an intelligent comment but pathetic namecalling only reflects on you. "

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"i bet arthur scargill cant wait to piss on her grave!!!"

That's probably why she's being cremated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i bet arthur scargill cant wait to piss on her grave!!!

That's probably why she's being cremated."

If they cremate the iron lady where is the slag interred?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i bet arthur scargill cant wait to piss on her grave!!!

That's probably why she's being cremated."

do we have the coal?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i bet arthur scargill cant wait to piss on her grave!!!

That's probably why she's being cremated.

do we have the coal?"

Yes because we import it as its cheaper which is why she shut down the loss making pits

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"i bet arthur scargill cant wait to piss on her grave!!!

That's probably why she's being cremated.

do we have the coal?

Yes because we import it as its cheaper which is why she shut down the loss making pits

It WAS cheaper....it isn't anymore.

But that is like anything that is being sold on a promise....cheaper tomorrow, but maybe not next year.

We were promised cheaper energy when the gas and electric were sold off....the gas from North Sea Oil drilling was said to be so cheap it could be given away for free to domestic users as it was a by product that would go to waste otherwise.....it was NEVER given away for free.

Steel was going to be cheaper to import than to manufacture....soon became more expensive once overseas companies got a foothold.

The truth is that there were far more profit making pits than there were loss making pits, and Thatcher and her ministers allowed the pits to flood to make a political point, rather than continue pumping pits in case of future shortages from abroad.

Smoke and mirrors....

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Admin have already shut a thread for comments made about this....please tone your comments down or this one will go the same way.

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/162470

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By * Jay69Man
over a year ago

Bridgwater - Somerset

"i bet arthur scargill cant wait to piss on her grave!!!

That's probably why she's being cremated.

do we have the coal?

Yes because we import it as its cheaper which is why she shut down the loss making pits

It WAS cheaper....it isn't anymore.

But that is like anything that is being sold on a promise....cheaper tomorrow, but maybe not next year.

Steel was going to be cheaper to import than to manufacture....soon became more expensive once overseas companies got a foothold.

Smoke and mirrors...."

She allowed rich people to become richer, people to make a fast buck buying their council houses (without re-investing the money in social housing), decimated our manufacturing industry and didn't care about the poor - who she made poorer.

Where are my dancing shoes?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I wasn't a lover of Thatcher..and I can understand why people really didn't like her....but some of the comments are as vile as you say the woman was

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Admin have already shut a thread for comments made about this....please tone your comments down or this one will go the same way.

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/162470"

Why wait. You'll be closing it in five minutes anyway given how some people refuse to listen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mum and dad were able to make a lovely profit after buying thier council house in the 80's RIP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whether ppl liked her or not, you have to admire her. She had gumption and took the guys by the bollocks..

R.I.P to a very strong individual !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jolly Good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i bet arthur scargill cant wait to piss on her grave!!!

That's probably why she's being cremated.

do we have the coal?

Yes because we import it as its cheaper which is why she shut down the loss making pits

It WAS cheaper....it isn't anymore.

But that is like anything that is being sold on a promise....cheaper tomorrow, but maybe not next year.

Steel was going to be cheaper to import than to manufacture....soon became more expensive once overseas companies got a foothold.

Smoke and mirrors...."

Could be worse I suppose - she could have helped screw the economy big time by selling half the uk's gold reserves when the price was at a 20 yr low - only for it the to sky rocket!!

But hey - she must be the only politician ever to do something unpopular in the history of British politics!

Or so it seems in the eyes of some!

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By *edbagioMan
over a year ago

ripon

"i bet arthur scargill cant wait to piss on her grave!!!

That's probably why she's being cremated.

do we have the coal?

Yes because we import it as its cheaper which is why she shut down the loss making pits

It WAS cheaper....it isn't anymore.

But that is like anything that is being sold on a promise....cheaper tomorrow, but maybe not next year.

Steel was going to be cheaper to import than to manufacture....soon became more expensive once overseas companies got a foothold.

Smoke and mirrors....

Where are my dancing shoes?"
bet you would still buy a british leyland car now eh demonstrate your at one with your comrade workers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quote"She allowed rich people to become richer, people to make a fast buck buying their council houses (without re-investing the money in social housing), decimated our manufacturing industry and didn't care about the poor - who she made poorer."

What has been different since? mass immigration, mass unemployment and now this ?government sorting out what should have been done 30-40 years ago. deal with actors & actresses on benefits, cap child benefit by numbers ie two. Put VAT on PM's bar bills

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should include MP's bar bills and perks!

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"My mum and dad were able to make a lovely profit after buying thier council house in the 80's RIP."

And that perfectly sums up why Thatcher succeeded in turning working class against working class....throw them a bone, some will be able to eat that bone...others won't.

But as long as some of them can then you will have divided a whole class of people.

Thanks for that post, it says far more than most of the posts on Thatcher today.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"i bet arthur scargill cant wait to piss on her grave!!!

That's probably why she's being cremated.

do we have the coal?

Yes because we import it as its cheaper which is why she shut down the loss making pits

It WAS cheaper....it isn't anymore.

But that is like anything that is being sold on a promise....cheaper tomorrow, but maybe not next year.

Steel was going to be cheaper to import than to manufacture....soon became more expensive once overseas companies got a foothold.

Smoke and mirrors....

Could be worse I suppose - she could have helped screw the economy big time by selling half the uk's gold reserves when the price was at a 20 yr low - only for it the to sky rocket!!

But hey - she must be the only politician ever to do something unpopular in the history of British politics!

Or so it seems in the eyes of some!

Thatcher had her own 'Gold Sale'....it was in the form of North Sea Oil, the Council House sale receipts, and the selling of our utility companies (cheaply).

Just like selling gold, just wrapped up and labelled as something different...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rip lady thatcher! Very sad news indeed

Unbelievable, George Galloway (MP) has commented "Tramp the dirt down"!!

Maybe that's how he does things in his litter tray but we're not all like him."

I agree Wishy. Yes I know. I was surprised too.

Seriously though, we here can argue political points and have our say, but it's in the worst possible taste to gloat on the death of someone's mother/grandmother.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My mum and dad were able to make a lovely profit after buying thier council house in the 80's RIP.

And that perfectly sums up why Thatcher succeeded in turning working class against working class....throw them a bone, some will be able to eat that bone...others won't.

But as long as some of them can then you will have divided a whole class of people.

Thanks for that post, it says far more than most of the posts on Thatcher today."

Was a lovely 3 bed terrace in London. Set them up nicely. RIP.

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By * Jay69Man
over a year ago

Bridgwater - Somerset

"My mum and dad were able to make a lovely profit after buying thier council house in the 80's RIP.

And that perfectly sums up why Thatcher succeeded in turning working class against working class....throw them a bone, some will be able to eat that bone...others won't.

But as long as some of them can then you will have divided a whole class of people.

Thanks for that post, it says far more than most of the posts on Thatcher today."

Very well put.

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over a year ago

"My mum and dad were able to make a lovely profit after buying thier council house in the 80's RIP.

And that perfectly sums up why Thatcher succeeded in turning working class against working class....throw them a bone, some will be able to eat that bone...others won't.

But as long as some of them can then you will have divided a whole class of people.

Thanks for that post, it says far more than most of the posts on Thatcher today."

You seem to be suffering from the delusion that all working class people identify with other working class people and that they should all be pegged back into eternal sufferance as working class people.

Some of our parents realised that buying our council house was a way to escape traditional working class roots and gain a foothold on the next rung up the ladder. Isn't that what we all aspire to each day we go out to work? To achieve a better life for ourselves and an even better future for our children? Or is it about going to work and earning just enough to feed and clothe ourselves so that we can stand shoulder to shoulder with our 'brothers' on the picket lines without a guilty conscience that we've 'betrayed' our class.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And so it ends....

I've been looking towards this day for much of my life such was the shadow this women cast upon those of us who still believe in socialism, but I feel strangely unmoved - not how I thought I'd feel. Maybe the passing of time has eased the bitterness; maybe the knowledge of her deteriorating condition and senility has poured water on the burning hatred, or maybe it's the sadness that the kind of selfish, individualistic notion of society she advocated has taken root, but I think the 20-year saved Cava shall stay on ice tonight. She's gone and that is that.

My children and grandchildren will continue paying for the destruction she wrought - selling off the nation's assets for a few pound notes and turning us all into a country of grasping greedy I'm alright Jack fuck everybody else mother fuckers with a big slice of misplaced patriotism thrown in.

Think I'll stay away from the news for the next few days.

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over a year ago

"And so it ends....

Think I'll stay away from the news for the next few days.

Awwww jeez she wasn't Sadaam Hussain. Have a beer and lighten up. God save our gracious queen tra la la.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok... Not a thatcherite not any voter. But I was 5 when mrs t came to power. I remember the power cuts and bins piled up due to the unions holding Britain over the barrel.

I remember free milk! I had to have it. I was jubilant when it was scrapped. No more having to sit in and consume a half pint of freezing milk before being allowed out to play.

Yes she sold the infrastructure but lets face it Britain was fucked and on its knees begging the US for international aid.

I remember the miners rioting. I remember the odious scargill. I remember being a teen and seeing Britain booming with the yuppie generation. Loadsamoney and its TRUE most never had it so good.

Granted it is MY generation paying for this now. We don't get free education free council houses the security of a pension. Although i bet most posting anti Thatcher enjoy the luxeries that were up for grabs.

And yes we are still feeling the effects. Thatcher and Reagan had a 30 yr plan and knew the bubble would burst mid 2000's.

What you have to ask yourself is are we better off now because if her? Having grown up through her prominence im afraid the answer has to be yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He'll slap it up her, just another dictator now resting in hell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

maggie thatcher was responsible for a lot of innocent lives that were lost on both sides..it did however manage to boost her popular ratings when they were at an all time low and unemployement at an all time high. and was insrumental in getting the tories another term in office.thats only my opinion of course..

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By *encarolCouple
over a year ago

Tyneside

the worst prime minister weve ever had , she ruined this country , good bye to rubbish , bet there will be some partys in the next few days,

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over a year ago

"My children and grandchildren will continue paying for the destruction she wrought - selling off the nation's assets for a few pound notes and turning us all into a country of grasping greedy I'm alright Jack fuck everybody else mother fuckers with a big slice of misplaced patriotism thrown in."

You couldn't be more wrong about the youth of today. Don't believe everything that's selected for you to read as there are a lot of well adjusted, well intentioned, good kids out there who are far more worldly wise in their tender years than I ever was in mine. You'll always get the tearaways in any generation, they existed before Thatcher came to power and they've existed in every generation since, but to condemn the next generation and those after them as "greedy I'm alright Jack fuck everybody else mother fuckers" is doing them a huge disservice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

R.I.P. to one of Britain's finest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Will Dennis have to pay bedroom tax now?

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By *encarolCouple
over a year ago

Tyneside

????????????????hes dead as well , (isnt he)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Will Dennis have to pay bedroom tax now? "

I doubt it, he died many years ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Goodbye Margaret Thatcher. I do hope that, with hindsight, you will undersrtand how much damage you did, and that your next incarnation will ensure that you develop the compassion you so badly lacked, this time around.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Who's gonna bet the 8:30 BBC doc tonight has one of the highest grossing audiences for a good while?

She may have caused unrest though her determination to bring Britain back to force will still be heard generations to come.

How many individuals and significantly those in positions of power, will truely be remembered in our history, only a handful. She made our tiny fractious island an authority on a global scale.

RIP.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

whatever you think of her... I think alex salmond, the first minister of the scottish parliament said it best today....

"Margaret Thatcher was a truly formidable prime minister whose policies defined a political generation.

“No doubt there will now be a renewed debate about the impact of that legacy.

“Today, however, the proper reaction should be respect and condolences to her family."

in effect she not only changed one political party... but she changed 2....

the tories went from the right to the centre... labour went from the left to the centre.......

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Well I was the youth of the Thather days and I did not come out too badly... I am sorry but she was the only PM that had a set of bollocks....So I will say RIP..

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

to be honest i'm neither sad nor upset about thatcher going, but in what way did she change the world?"

actually in more ways than you probably realise...

she was loved in eastern europe.... between her and reagan they helped bring down the iron curtain...

she was one of the first people to believe in a more integrated europe.. and an expanded european union...

she was one of the first to talk about climate change and to get people doing something... none of the climate change treaties would have happened without her...

personally.. as much as i may like or hate her... without right to buy my mum may have never have gotten on the housing ladder....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok... Not a thatcherite not any voter. But I was 5 when mrs t came to power. I remember the power cuts and bins piled up due to the unions holding Britain over the barrel.

I remember free milk! I had to have it. I was jubilant when it was scrapped. No more having to sit in and consume a half pint of freezing milk before being allowed out to play.

Yes she sold the infrastructure but lets face it Britain was fucked and on its knees begging the US for international aid.

I remember the miners rioting. I remember the odious scargill. I remember being a teen and seeing Britain booming with the yuppie generation. Loadsamoney and its TRUE most never had it so good.

And yes we are still feeling the effects. Thatcher and Reagan had a 30 yr plan and knew the bubble would burst mid 2000's.

What you have to ask yourself is are we better off now because if her? Having grown up through her prominence im afraid the answer has to be yes"
great post

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Alex Salmond has just released a statement on behalf of the Scottish Parliament...

RIP Margaret Thatcher.

A woman who did more damage to Scotland than alcohol and the deep-frying process combined.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Admin have already shut a thread for comments made about this....please tone your comments down or this one will go the same way.

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/162470"

Posts have been removed. Another reminder.

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By *iamp86Man
over a year ago

preston

I was never a big fan of Maggie - but will be raising a small glass of malt to her memory tonight

Even though she took my milk when I was at school ... I was proud to be British when she was in Number 10

I suspect history will .. in time .. rank her as great a statesman as Churchill

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For those that lived thru that period will know that as a country we could no longer carry on as we had been, we (uk)were finito. Has every one forgotten the winter of discontent? Cometh the hour cometh the man!

Laundry workers on hospital picket lines deciding who could be admitted to hospital, gravediggers on strike, power stations closed down, 3 day weeks, no heating,light or power, Arthur and red robbo leading the uk down the road to perdition, the uk being the sick man of the west, super hi inflation, loaning billions from the gnomes of Europe just to stay afloat. Truth be told then the unions and especially arthur really elected her!

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

Whilst I cannot as some are doing here and elsewhere "rejoice " at an old ladys death as much as I disliked her and her kind .I can remember her stood on the steps of 10 downing street telling the nation to " rejoice rejoice rejoice " at the deaths of 323 conscripts onboard the General Belgrano .

Just a thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't that what we all aspire to each day we go out to work?"

No.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"For those that lived thru that period will know that as a country we could no longer carry on as we had been, we (uk)were finito. Has every one forgotten the winter of discontent? Cometh the hour cometh the man!

I am glad you mentioned it because I was just about to.... I was wondering it people for some reason had a super rosy recollect of that, people may not like everything she did... I certainly don't... but whether you like it or now.... the country was in a better position for when she left govt than when she got in........

without thatcher you wouldn't have had for example, new labour.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me and her shared the same birthday the same ideals and both work hard for what we want i feel a loss for this country

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By *edbagioMan
over a year ago

ripon

without thatcher you wouldn't have had for example, new labour....."
thanks for new labour

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over a year ago

"Whilst I cannot as some are doing here and elsewhere "rejoice " at an old ladys death as much as I disliked her and her kind .I can remember her stood on the steps of 10 downing street telling the nation to " rejoice rejoice rejoice " at the deaths of 323 conscripts onboard the General Belgrano .

Just a thought "

Being someone who was involved in the Falklands campaign I for one am glad I could rejoice. Conscripts or not at the time they where the enemy

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over a year ago

I would rather be remembered as someone who loved my country, stood by my (sometimes bad) decisions, had the courage of my convictions than someone who is best remembered for licking imaginary milk out of Rula Lenskas hands....

Growing up in the 80's if she hadn't have won in 1979? The Falklands would have been the Malvinas, there would have been weekly strikes - oh no wait a minute they wouldnt as the Govt would have caved every time....

At the end of the day condolences to her family. Legacy and notoriety is for another day.....

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By *rsIdiotWoman
over a year ago

Bedworth

While I do not like her political _iews, I do think she was one hell of a woman!

I will always respect her for her for what she has achieved in her life and the success she had in her chosen career

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over a year ago

Just a thought

Being someone who was involved in the Falklands campaign I for one am glad I could rejoice. Conscripts or not at the time they where the enemy "

Well said.

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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago

folkestone

Thatcher was a very very lucky Prime minster. Had the revenue from the north sea oil(started under the previous labour government) not come into the government coffers, she would have not been able to push through her policies and cut the national deficit.

She sold off anything she could at below market value just to prove a ideological point, and then failed to invest the money generated into schools and hospitals that were falling down.

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By *thukguyMan
over a year ago

Wirral /Cyprus

without thatcher you wouldn't have had for example, new labour.....thanks for new labour

Exactly and look what state Tony Blair's years have left the country in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's all too easy to live in the past and vilify someone specific as the catalyst of all your present woes but if you consider your life to be on track today let's nip back in time and prevent Mrs Thatcher from ever gaining office. Can you be 100% certain your life today would be the same, would you take that risk bearing in mind that you could be a whole lot worse off. We'll never know who would have been at the helm during the Thatcher years nor the ramifications of that person's policies, so what do we do?

Nothing.

She lived in her time and some of us felt her presence in our lives. We're still alive though and we're no worse off for having lived under her forceful will. What that should tell you is that the only person who is in control of your destiny is yourself and if events of 30 years ago are still prevalent in your mind then it is you who has stagnated whilst the rest of us have moved on.

She was what she was and we are what we are. The two are mutually exclusive.

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

"whatever you think of her... I think alex salmond, the first minister of the scottish parliament said it best today....

"Margaret Thatcher was a truly formidable prime minister whose policies defined a political generation.

“No doubt there will now be a renewed debate about the impact of that legacy.

“Today, however, the proper reaction should be respect and condolences to her family."

in effect she not only changed one political party... but she changed 2....

the tories went from the right to the centre... labour went from the left to the centre......."

This is the best possible comment on here alongside the other positive ones too.

Whatever your political leanings, beliefs and so on, this is not the place to start slagging off someone.

To those who have commented in negative or even totally vile and thoroughly spiteful, venemous tones, let us know when your elderly relatives die, so we can respond in a similar fashion and see how you like it!!

As my grandmother said, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say it at all!"

Food for thought!

RIP Maggie Thatcher.