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"Reports are in showing very disturbing footage of youngsters battling with machetes and swords in Southend, which is a place by the seaside in Essex where people go who can’t afford to go to Marbs. Is this the state of our younger generation now? Are we destined to a future of riots and murderous rampages by thugs, while the police stand and watch? This is all over the news…." excellent Tom tone 👌🏼 I'm gonna refrain from sarcastic comments linking to Southport. | |||
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"Reports are in showing very disturbing footage of youngsters battling with machetes and swords in Southend, which is a place by the seaside in Essex where people go who can’t afford to go to Marbs. Is this the state of our younger generation now? Are we destined to a future of riots and murderous rampages by thugs, while the police stand and watch? This is all over the news…. excellent Tom tone 👌🏼 I'm gonna refrain from sarcastic comments linking to Southport. " Maybe they got the address wrong for the riot? | |||
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"It’s becoming a regular thing. Southend is becoming a bit of a no go area nowadays " Why as it become a no go area ? | |||
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"What did you think was going to happen to society when the snowflakes called for no punishment for kids in schools nor at home? 🤣🤣🤣 Just talk to them, tell them where they won't wrong, blah blah blah. Don't push me or I will have you done for assault. 🥱🥱🥱 " Can you imagine their reactions, if they were made to watch Full Metal Jacket? | |||
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"Can you imagine their reactions, if they were made to watch Full Metal Jacket?" Well, at least they'd know which is for firing and which is for fun. | |||
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"What did you think was going to happen to society when the snowflakes called for no punishment for kids in schools nor at home? 🤣🤣🤣 Just talk to them, tell them where they won't wrong, blah blah blah. Don't push me or I will have you done for assault. 🥱🥱🥱 " Those with the swords and machetes did not look like snowflakes, that’s for sure.. | |||
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"What did you think was going to happen to society when the snowflakes called for no punishment for kids in schools nor at home? 🤣🤣🤣 Just talk to them, tell them where they won't wrong, blah blah blah. Don't push me or I will have you done for assault. 🥱🥱🥱 Those with the swords and machetes did not look like snowflakes, that’s for sure.." Please go back and read what we said. We didn't say the kids we're snowflakes 🤣 There's other words we call those, but don't want a forum ban 🤣🤣🤣 We said the snowflakes were the ones who said don't punish kids 🙄 | |||
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"This country is on its knees. No ditterent at. Bring back capitol punishment what it Bible says a life for a life " And when they get it wrong as historically they have done too many times? Say sorry we killed your loved one to the families? | |||
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"What did you think was going to happen to society when the snowflakes called for no punishment for kids in schools nor at home? 🤣🤣🤣 Just talk to them, tell them where they won't wrong, blah blah blah. Don't push me or I will have you done for assault. 🥱🥱🥱 Those with the swords and machetes did not look like snowflakes, that’s for sure.. Please go back and read what we said. We didn't say the kids we're snowflakes 🤣 There's other words we call those, but don't want a forum ban 🤣🤣🤣 We said the snowflakes were the ones who said don't punish kids 🙄" I read and understood what you said. I added that the yobs didn’t look like snowflakes. You weren’t being criticised. | |||
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"This country is on its knees. No ditterent at. Bring back capitol punishment what it Bible says a life for a life " The country is on it's knees dealing with idiotic beliefs like this. | |||
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"This country is on its knees. No ditterent at. Bring back capitol punishment what it Bible says a life for a life The country is on it's knees dealing with idiotic beliefs like this." Is capitol punishment being forced to listen to a crappy London radio station? | |||
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"This country is on its knees. No ditterent at. Bring back capitol punishment what it Bible says a life for a life The country is on it's knees dealing with idiotic beliefs like this. Is capitol punishment being forced to listen to a crappy London radio station?" Capitol Punishment, brought to you by Bible Radio. | |||
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"To many do gooders. The animal that has just stabbed those poor kids should not be allowed to take another breath of air. Everyday now there's stabbings. Get em in the army for discipline. I would never want my grandkids to have to go in army but I dread to think on 10 20 or 30 tears time what it will be like. " The alternative to do gooders is do badders...? Bad doers? Either way, I'd much rather have people trying to do the right thing than whatever it is you're proposing. | |||
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"What did you think was going to happen to society when the snowflakes called for no punishment for kids in schools nor at home? 🤣🤣🤣 Just talk to them, tell them where they won't wrong, blah blah blah. Don't push me or I will have you done for assault. 🥱🥱🥱 Those with the swords and machetes did not look like snowflakes, that’s for sure.. Please go back and read what we said. We didn't say the kids we're snowflakes 🤣 There's other words we call those, but don't want a forum ban 🤣🤣🤣 We said the snowflakes were the ones who said don't punish kids 🙄" Do you have any actual stats or evidence to back any of that up? Do you know the ethos of the schools these kids went to? Wjat their backgrounds or home life is like? How capitalism affects them and their environment growing up? Or do we just not like snowflakes and will link thos to any bad event that happens | |||
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" Is capitol punishment being forced to listen to a crappy London radio station?" No. It is being made to walk up a hill in Washington DC. | |||
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"Looks like the country maybe in for a bumpy ride, Southport also rioting, all we seem to hear in the news is violence, stabbings and riots seem like they are becoming the norm "No, Southport didn't riot. A rent-a-mob came to Southport deliberately, and started a riot. | |||
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"Who could have thought that the rise in popularity of a music genre that promotes criminal behaviour and gang culture could cause a problem? "People said rock n roll was the work of the devil back in the 50s and preachers preached against it. You can't blame music for the criminal behaviour of people. I listened to "It's Raining Men" but didn't expect human beings to start landing in my lap. | |||
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"Who could have thought that the rise in popularity of a music genre that promotes criminal behaviour and gang culture could cause a problem? "Yeah. Music is really the issue. It's shite parenting and getting everything handed to them. Also a lot of people have moved here from warzones and should not be living in society until they've become demilitarised. | |||
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"This country is on its knees. No ditterent at. Bring back capitol punishment what it Bible says a life for a life And when they get it wrong as historically they have done too many times? Say sorry we killed your loved one to the families? " How many were wrong? How many got out on technicalities which wouldn't have happened if they were dead. | |||
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"Who could have thought that the rise in popularity of a music genre that promotes criminal behaviour and gang culture could cause a problem?
People said rock n roll was the work of the devil back in the 50s and preachers preached against it. You can't blame music for the criminal behaviour of people. I listened to "It's Raining Men" but didn't expect human beings to start landing in my lap. "When they’re singing about shooting stabbing and post codes it is a problem, the underground shite is even worse | |||
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"This country is on its knees. No ditterent at. Bring back capitol punishment what it Bible says a life for a life And when they get it wrong as historically they have done too many times? Say sorry we killed your loved one to the families? How many were wrong? How many got out on technicalities which wouldn't have happened if they were dead. " Literally dozens since it was rightly abolished, information about the cases is easily available.. | |||
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"This country is on its knees. No ditterent at. Bring back capitol punishment what it Bible says a life for a life And when they get it wrong as historically they have done too many times? Say sorry we killed your loved one to the families? How many were wrong? How many got out on technicalities which wouldn't have happened if they were dead. Literally dozens since it was rightly abolished, information about the cases is easily available.. "Ah what's a few dozen innocent people killed if it stops one more innocent person killed.... No wait that doesn't sound right | |||
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"Capital punishment for everyone, no matter the crime. If an old granny forgets to buy a parking ticket - electric chair. If a radgy down the street is blasting their chav music and generally just a blight on society - lethal injection. If you murder, straight in the grinder. No ifs, no buts." Surely the old granny won't have to pay to park her electric chair? | |||
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"What on Earth is going on ?? Remember Lockdowns ? No one liked them but there was a much more relaxed atmosphere and consideration for our fellow man,now just so much arrogance and aggression,no need people "Think we are at boiling point the kettle is just about to spill | |||
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"Capital punishment for everyone, no matter the crime. If an old granny forgets to buy a parking ticket - electric chair. If a radgy down the street is blasting their chav music and generally just a blight on society - lethal injection. If you murder, straight in the grinder. No ifs, no buts. Surely the old granny won't have to pay to park her electric chair? " Haha  ..in my modern suburbia, granny will take the burden of many a thing including parking her EV at a high cost. On the flip side, granny will recieve a tax funded execution so they have one less thing to worry about. | |||
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"I think they should be forced into the army, or navy, plenty of good soldiers dying for nothing where those hoodlums should be put out into the warzone and see how brave they are then. Look at the SAS for example, a class unit made of renegades and it brought them back into shape" Yeah, young folk love being forced to do stuff and I'm sure the regular squaddies would love having them there too Also, what warzone? | |||
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"I think they should be forced into the army, or navy, plenty of good soldiers dying for nothing where those hoodlums should be put out into the warzone and see how brave they are then. Look at the SAS for example, a class unit made of renegades and it brought them back into shape" No indont think that would help at all, the amount of ex forces that have ptsd and severe mental health problems is unreal and they don't get much help with that. Sending kids to fight in war zone isn't the answer I don't know what is though. Violence and crime is up all over the world and seems not much can be done | |||
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"What on Earth is going on ?? Remember Lockdowns ? No one liked them but there was a much more relaxed atmosphere and consideration for our fellow man,now just so much arrogance and aggression,no need people "Not sure what lockdown you were in! There still fighting over it in the virus forum now! | |||
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"I think they should be forced into the army, or navy, plenty of good soldiers dying for nothing where those hoodlums should be put out into the warzone and see how brave they are then. Look at the SAS for example, a class unit made of renegades and it brought them back into shape Yeah, young folk love being forced to do stuff and I'm sure the regular squaddies would love having them there too Also, what warzone? " what I meant was, it might bring a bit of obedience and respect to themselves when they’re made to do something or their laptop in the MP prisons, they would not like the army which is why I think they should be punished and put in there Putting them in a normal prison, they may as well be at home in their own bedroom with their PlayStation and TVs, prison isn’t punishment unless they get wound up in gangs inside there | |||
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"I think they should be forced into the army, or navy, plenty of good soldiers dying for nothing where those hoodlums should be put out into the warzone and see how brave they are then. Look at the SAS for example, a class unit made of renegades and it brought them back into shape" Eh? You mean a regiment with strict selection criteria and processes including both physical and psychological? Hardly renegades that needed bringing back into shape? 🤔🤦♂️😂😂 | |||
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"Looks like the country maybe in for a bumpy ride, Southport also rioting, all we seem to hear in the news is violence, stabbings and riots seem like they are becoming the norm
No, Southport didn't riot. A rent-a-mob came to Southport deliberately, and started a riot. "Still a riot though. Irrespective of motivation. You can’t deny that? | |||
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"This country is on its knees. No ditterent at. Bring back capitol punishment what it Bible says a life for a life " The Bible is an incredibly violent text, you sure you really want that? | |||
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"I think they should be forced into the army, or navy, plenty of good soldiers dying for nothing where those hoodlums should be put out into the warzone and see how brave they are then. Look at the SAS for example, a class unit made of renegades and it brought them back into shape No indont think that would help at all, the amount of ex forces that have ptsd and severe mental health problems is unreal and they don't get much help with that. Sending kids to fight in war zone isn't the answer I don't know what is though. Violence and crime is up all over the world and seems not much can be done " Not according to the ONS data it's not, it's been declining for the last 30 years | |||
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"Capital punishment for everyone, no matter the crime. If an old granny forgets to buy a parking ticket - electric chair. If a radgy down the street is blasting their chav music and generally just a blight on society - lethal injection. If you murder, straight in the grinder. No ifs, no buts. Surely the old granny won't have to pay to park her electric chair? Haha ..in my modern suburbia, granny will take the burden of many a thing including parking her EV at a high cost. On the flip side, granny will recieve a tax funded execution so they have one less thing to worry about."Nahhhhhh, she's got a Blue Badge. Free on double yellows for up to 3hrs | |||
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"I think they should be forced into the army, or navy, plenty of good soldiers dying for nothing where those hoodlums should be put out into the warzone and see how brave they are then. Look at the SAS for example, a class unit made of renegades and it brought them back into shape Eh? You mean a regiment with strict selection criteria and processes including both physical and psychological? Hardly renegades that needed bringing back into shape? 🤔🤦♂️😂😂" how was the SAS formed, people who wouldn’t listen to orders or do as they were told and the more up-to-date SAS programs on TV, the ones who train you to get through have even said they were tear ways and such when they were younger | |||
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"Looks like the country maybe in for a bumpy ride, Southport also rioting, all we seem to hear in the news is violence, stabbings and riots seem like they are becoming the norm
No, Southport didn't riot. A rent-a-mob came to Southport deliberately, and started a riot.
Still a riot though. Irrespective of motivation. You can’t deny that?"Yes, it was a mindless riot caused by morons who invented a reason to riot. It was not local people protesting about something, it had no validity as a form of unrest at all because the premise for the riot was conspiracy theories and speculation. If there should be a death penalty, it should be for conspiracy theorists!!! And no, I don't believe in the death penalty. | |||
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"I think they should be forced into the army, or navy, plenty of good soldiers dying for nothing where those hoodlums should be put out into the warzone and see how brave they are then. Look at the SAS for example, a class unit made of renegades and it brought them back into shape No indont think that would help at all, the amount of ex forces that have ptsd and severe mental health problems is unreal and they don't get much help with that. Sending kids to fight in war zone isn't the answer I don't know what is though. Violence and crime is up all over the world and seems not much can be done Not according to the ONS data it's not, it's been declining for the last 30 years" A lot of ex forces don't go to get help cause it takes too long to get it and some don't want to as for help cause they think it makes them look weak so data means nothing | |||
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"This country is on its knees. No ditterent at. Bring back capitol punishment what it Bible says a life for a life " . The bible also says don’t wear mixed fabrics and don’t cut the sides of your hair. Probably not that good a guide for life. Gbat | |||
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"It’s becoming a regular thing. Southend is becoming a bit of a no go area nowadays " those of us old enough will remember the seaside battles between the mods and rockers,(I don't mean our mods  ).this sort of thing will always flair up, and then fizzle out. | |||
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"I think they should be forced into the army, or navy, plenty of good soldiers dying for nothing where those hoodlums should be put out into the warzone and see how brave they are then. Look at the SAS for example, a class unit made of renegades and it brought them back into shape No indont think that would help at all, the amount of ex forces that have ptsd and severe mental health problems is unreal and they don't get much help with that. Sending kids to fight in war zone isn't the answer I don't know what is though. Violence and crime is up all over the world and seems not much can be done Not according to the ONS data it's not, it's been declining for the last 30 years A lot of ex forces don't go to get help cause it takes too long to get it and some don't want to as for help cause they think it makes them look weak so data means nothing " Was referring to rising crime claim | |||
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"Looks like the country maybe in for a bumpy ride, Southport also rioting, all we seem to hear in the news is violence, stabbings and riots seem like they are becoming the norm
No, Southport didn't riot. A rent-a-mob came to Southport deliberately, and started a riot. "Ok maybe I should have worded it that there’s also been a riot in Southport, doesn’t matter who it was, there is reports and video footage of a riot in Southport | |||
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"Looks like the country maybe in for a bumpy ride, Southport also rioting, all we seem to hear in the news is violence, stabbings and riots seem like they are becoming the norm
No, Southport didn't riot. A rent-a-mob came to Southport deliberately, and started a riot.
Still a riot though. Irrespective of motivation. You can’t deny that?
Yes, it was a mindless riot caused by morons who invented a reason to riot. It was not local people protesting about something, it had no validity as a form of unrest at all because the premise for the riot was conspiracy theories and speculation.
If there should be a death penalty, it should be for conspiracy theorists!!!
And no, I don't believe in the death penalty. "I know you don’t kc, but surely no way can any riot be validated? Mindless violence by any faction is just that, mindless violence. | |||
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"Looks like the country maybe in for a bumpy ride, Southport also rioting, all we seem to hear in the news is violence, stabbings and riots seem like they are becoming the norm
No, Southport didn't riot. A rent-a-mob came to Southport deliberately, and started a riot.
Ok maybe I should have worded it that there’s also been a riot in Southport, doesn’t matter who it was, there is reports and video footage of a riot in Southport "There was yes but as the other poster referred to and given four our of five arrested so far are not from Southport which confirms in part what the police knew was being organised by the far right/EDL whose only aim was to attack a mosque based upon lies on the internet .. The people in Southport showed their true selves at the vigil and today when they came together to clear up and repair what the thugs did in attacking the mosque and the police.. | |||
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"Harebills Leeds , south port . Now Southend , Wouldn’t be a ythi g to do with our Asian communities would it " 
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"Capital punishment for everyone, no matter the crime. If an old granny forgets to buy a parking ticket - electric chair. If a radgy down the street is blasting their chav music and generally just a blight on society - lethal injection. If you murder, straight in the grinder. No ifs, no buts. Surely the old granny won't have to pay to park her electric chair? Haha ..in my modern suburbia, granny will take the burden of many a thing including parking her EV at a high cost. On the flip side, granny will recieve a tax funded execution so they have one less thing to worry about.
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"Harebills Leeds , south port . Now Southend , Wouldn’t be a ythi g to do with our Asian communities would it " And go and look at the footage from last night and what they were chanting before you further embarrass yourself.. | |||
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"Capital punishment for everyone, no matter the crime. If an old granny forgets to buy a parking ticket - electric chair. If a radgy down the street is blasting their chav music and generally just a blight on society - lethal injection. If you murder, straight in the grinder. No ifs, no buts. Surely the old granny won't have to pay to park her electric chair? Haha ..in my modern suburbia, granny will take the burden of many a thing including parking her EV at a high cost. On the flip side, granny will recieve a tax funded execution so they have one less thing to worry about.
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"I think they should be forced into the army, or navy, plenty of good soldiers dying for nothing where those hoodlums should be put out into the warzone and see how brave they are then. Look at the SAS for example, a class unit made of renegades and it brought them back into shape No indont think that would help at all, the amount of ex forces that have ptsd and severe mental health problems is unreal and they don't get much help with that. Sending kids to fight in war zone isn't the answer I don't know what is though. Violence and crime is up all over the world and seems not much can be done Not according to the ONS data it's not, it's been declining for the last 30 years A lot of ex forces don't go to get help cause it takes too long to get it and some don't want to as for help cause they think it makes them look weak so data means nothing Was referring to rising crime claim" Fair enough, not all crimes are reported | |||
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"I think they should be forced into the army, or navy, plenty of good soldiers dying for nothing where those hoodlums should be put out into the warzone and see how brave they are then. Look at the SAS for example, a class unit made of renegades and it brought them back into shape Eh? You mean a regiment with strict selection criteria and processes including both physical and psychological? Hardly renegades that needed bringing back into shape? 🤔🤦♂️😂😂 how was the SAS formed, people who wouldn’t listen to orders or do as they were told and the more up-to-date SAS programs on TV, the ones who train you to get through have even said they were tear ways and such when they were younger" Tell me you don't know anything about Special Force selection without telling me you don't know anything about Special Forces selection. | |||
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"Looks like the country maybe in for a bumpy ride, Southport also rioting, all we seem to hear in the news is violence, stabbings and riots seem like they are becoming the norm
No, Southport didn't riot. A rent-a-mob came to Southport deliberately, and started a riot.
Still a riot though. Irrespective of motivation. You can’t deny that?
Yes, it was a mindless riot caused by morons who invented a reason to riot. It was not local people protesting about something, it had no validity as a form of unrest at all because the premise for the riot was conspiracy theories and speculation.
If there should be a death penalty, it should be for conspiracy theorists!!!
And no, I don't believe in the death penalty.
I know you don’t kc, but surely no way can any riot be validated?
Mindless violence by any faction is just that, mindless violence."I dunno, I could understand a riot if some major miscarriage of justice happened and there was evidence of the State being complicit/covering up or if me fighting back in some way protected my family from aggression. But almost never can such violence be justified, no. I wanted to make clear that this was a pre planned riot and did not represent the community it happened in. It was rent-a-mob. | |||
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"It’s becoming a regular thing. Southend is becoming a bit of a no go area nowadays " Is it really, when I have been there lately it looks like its got better. | |||
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"Harebills Leeds , south port . Now Southend , Wouldn’t be a ythi g to do with our Asian communities would it " It was to do with idiocy. Which seems alive and well here, too. Gbat | |||
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"Harebills Leeds , south port . Now Southend , Wouldn’t be a ythi g to do with our Asian communities would it It was to do with idiocy. Which seems alive and well here, too. Gbat" May I add with a touch of geographical ignorance too.. | |||
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"Who could have thought that the rise in popularity of a music genre that promotes criminal behaviour and gang culture could cause a problem? "Why not, they said heavy metal music was evil and had satanic words in it, if you played it backwards. | |||
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"What did you think was going to happen to society when the snowflakes called for no punishment for kids in schools nor at home? 🤣🤣🤣 Just talk to them, tell them where they won't wrong, blah blah blah. Don't push me or I will have you done for assault. 🥱🥱🥱 " Nobody’s been ‘punished at school for 40 years. Perhaps we should blame their parents? | |||
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"Just seen video don’t look like you normal happy go lucky tourist however they maybe enjoying our culture " Looking at them it's also their culture..
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"Capital punishment for everyone, no matter the crime. If an old granny forgets to buy a parking ticket - electric chair. If a radgy down the street is blasting their chav music and generally just a blight on society - lethal injection. If you murder, straight in the grinder. No ifs, no buts. Surely the old granny won't have to pay to park her electric chair? Haha ..in my modern suburbia, granny will take the burden of many a thing including parking her EV at a high cost. On the flip side, granny will recieve a tax funded execution so they have one less thing to worry about.
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They just decided to use the place for a tear up, as mods and rockers did in Brighton back in the day..
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"Capital punishment for everyone, no matter the crime. If an old granny forgets to buy a parking ticket - electric chair. If a radgy down the street is blasting their chav music and generally just a blight on society - lethal injection. If you murder, straight in the grinder. No ifs, no buts. Surely the old granny won't have to pay to park her electric chair? Haha ..in my modern suburbia, granny will take the burden of many a thing including parking her EV at a high cost. On the flip side, granny will recieve a tax funded execution so they have one less thing to worry about.
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Lots were guilty but got off on technicalities. Bet most of those arrested were scumbags anyway. "All that response shows is that you don't have any idea what your talking about, haven't bothered to look at the issue but based upon your ignorance you want to bring back the death penalty.. Thankfully it won't ever go to a referendum so your views will remain just that.. | |||
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Lots were guilty but got off on technicalities. Bet most of those arrested were scumbags anyway. "Because "I bet most...." is enough to end someone's life or deprive them of their liberty? Christ, I'm glad we have a proper judicial system | |||
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"I'm assuming all the Teddy boy knifings in the 50s were committed by the evil immigrants too? There has always been a violent section of society. The reason we see more these days from non-whites than we used to is because there are more non-whites than there used to be. Not because non-whites are more violent than whites. " People seem to conveniently forget that the past wasn't all rainbows and sprinkles. It's ridiculous for posters to tell us to remove our rose tinted specs, only to discount the entire IRA bombing history when discussing terrorism in the UK earlier, for example. Too many people have this unrealistic view of the past. | |||
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People said rock n roll was the work of the devil back in the 50s and preachers preached against it. You can't blame music for the criminal behaviour of people. I listened to "It's Raining Men" but didn't expect human beings to start landing in my lap. "Not sure R&R openly promoted gang violence- i'm sure all the knife crime is just the tail end of the people who used to watch cartoons before they were banned for being a bad influence? | |||
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"Fucking country has turned to shit. The police have zero control anymore and the scum know it and do whatever they want. This is the result of the soft attitude towards criminals today all the apologists jump to the defence of bad behaviour blaming everyone apart from the people committing the criminal acts themselves. The current system cleared DOES NOT WORK so clearly change needs to happen NOW. " So don't blame the system or environment just blame the people.....unless the system is to soft....then blame the system | |||
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"Fucking country has turned to shit. The police have zero control anymore and the scum know it and do whatever they want. This is the result of the soft attitude towards criminals today all the apologists jump to the defence of bad behaviour blaming everyone apart from the people committing the criminal acts themselves. The current system cleared DOES NOT WORK so clearly change needs to happen NOW. " Totally agree. People's respect for others, and morals, have reached ground zero it seems, unfortunately. | |||
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People said rock n roll was the work of the devil back in the 50s and preachers preached against it. You can't blame music for the criminal behaviour of people. I listened to "It's Raining Men" but didn't expect human beings to start landing in my lap.
Not sure R&R openly promoted gang violence- i'm sure all the knife crime is just the tail end of the people who used to watch cartoons before they were banned for being a bad influence? "My point being that music and other aspects of popular culture have blamed for the poor or allegedly immoral behaviour of young people since forever. Drill music doesn't cause knife crime. Knife crime happened way before drill music existed. | |||
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People said rock n roll was the work of the devil back in the 50s and preachers preached against it. You can't blame music for the criminal behaviour of people. I listened to "It's Raining Men" but didn't expect human beings to start landing in my lap.
Not sure R&R openly promoted gang violence- i'm sure all the knife crime is just the tail end of the people who used to watch cartoons before they were banned for being a bad influence?
My point being that music and other aspects of popular culture have blamed for the poor or allegedly immoral behaviour of young people since forever. Drill music doesn't cause knife crime. Knife crime happened way before drill music existed. "Is knife crime worse in the last few years? How long has drill music been a thing? | |||
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"I’m sorry to break to you guys, but…this “aggressive” genre of music has been around for over 20 years. And compared to the seminal rap and hip hop albums, today ganstas sound like a parody. There were issues and violence also before that music. The main cause being poverty, discrimination, poor access to schools, poor parenting. But yeah, let’s reduce a very complex problem to “I don’t like today’s music”
By the way, looks like the idiots who caused the riot were a bunch of idiots from the EDL. Interesting their twat leader, the guy who goes under a different name than his real one, fled the country just the day before to avoid going to court. How curious, those snowflakey hardmen from the fringe of politics have a habit of hiding like chickens "knives don't kill people, drillers do. | |||
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People said rock n roll was the work of the devil back in the 50s and preachers preached against it. You can't blame music for the criminal behaviour of people. I listened to "It's Raining Men" but didn't expect human beings to start landing in my lap.
Not sure R&R openly promoted gang violence- i'm sure all the knife crime is just the tail end of the people who used to watch cartoons before they were banned for being a bad influence?
My point being that music and other aspects of popular culture have blamed for the poor or allegedly immoral behaviour of young people since forever. Drill music doesn't cause knife crime. Knife crime happened way before drill music existed.
Is knife crime worse in the last few years? How long has drill music been a thing? "Since 2010ish... strangely knife crime fell until 2015ish... It could be the re-emergence of Country music? | |||
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"I’m sorry to break to you guys, but…this “aggressive” genre of music has been around for over 20 years. And compared to the seminal rap and hip hop albums, today ganstas sound like a parody. There were issues and violence also before that music. The main cause being poverty, discrimination, poor access to schools, poor parenting. But yeah, let’s reduce a very complex problem to “I don’t like today’s music”
By the way, looks like the idiots who caused the riot were a bunch of idiots from the EDL. Interesting their twat leader, the guy who goes under a different name than his real one, fled the country just the day before to avoid going to court. How curious, those snowflakey hardmen from the fringe of politics have a habit of hiding like chickens knives don't kill people, drillers do. "Please tell me you’re joking. This sounds like the NRA in USA saying that weapons don’t kill, people do. | |||
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"Who could have thought that the rise in popularity of a music genre that promotes criminal behaviour and gang culture could cause a problem?
People said rock n roll was the work of the devil back in the 50s and preachers preached against it. You can't blame music for the criminal behaviour of people. I listened to "It's Raining Men" but didn't expect human beings to start landing in my lap.
Not sure R&R openly promoted gang violence- i'm sure all the knife crime is just the tail end of the people who used to watch cartoons before they were banned for being a bad influence?
My point being that music and other aspects of popular culture have blamed for the poor or allegedly immoral behaviour of young people since forever. Drill music doesn't cause knife crime. Knife crime happened way before drill music existed.
Is knife crime worse in the last few years? How long has drill music been a thing?
Since 2010ish... strangely knife crime fell until 2015ish...
It could be the re-emergence of Country music?
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By the way, looks like the idiots who caused the riot were a bunch of idiots from the EDL. Interesting their twat leader, the guy who goes under a different name than his real one, fled the country just the day before to avoid going to court. How curious, those snowflakey hardmen from the fringe of politics have a habit of hiding like chickens "When we were younger, we were told listening to Eminem would turn children violent etc. | |||
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By the way, looks like the idiots who caused the riot were a bunch of idiots from the EDL. Interesting their twat leader, the guy who goes under a different name than his real one, fled the country just the day before to avoid going to court. How curious, those snowflakey hardmen from the fringe of politics have a habit of hiding like chickens
When we were younger, we were told listening to Eminem would turn children violent etc. "And before Eminem, it was method man, the wu tang clan, biggie and Tupac. Before that, it was rock music (it was considered satanic, nonetheless). All nonsense. Excuses weak people make to run from their responsibilities or to avoid facing difficult situations and complex problems. It’s always someone/something else’s fault | |||
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By the way, looks like the idiots who caused the riot were a bunch of idiots from the EDL. Interesting their twat leader, the guy who goes under a different name than his real one, fled the country just the day before to avoid going to court. How curious, those snowflakey hardmen from the fringe of politics have a habit of hiding like chickens knives don't kill people, drillers do.
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"Reports are in showing very disturbing footage of youngsters battling with machetes and swords in Southend, which is a place by the seaside in Essex where people go who can’t afford to go to Marbs. Is this the state of our younger generation now? Are we destined to a future of riots and murderous rampages by thugs, while the police stand and watch? This is all over the news…." This is what comes from not smacking your children when they are out of order and giving them a smiley face sticker . | |||
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"Reports are in showing very disturbing footage of youngsters battling with machetes and swords in Southend, which is a place by the seaside in Essex where people go who can’t afford to go to Marbs. Is this the state of our younger generation now? Are we destined to a future of riots and murderous rampages by thugs, while the police stand and watch? This is all over the news….This is what comes from not smacking your children when they are out of order and giving them a smiley face sticker ." Is it, though? | |||
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"Reports are in showing very disturbing footage of youngsters battling with machetes and swords in Southend, which is a place by the seaside in Essex where people go who can’t afford to go to Marbs. Is this the state of our younger generation now? Are we destined to a future of riots and murderous rampages by thugs, while the police stand and watch? This is all over the news….This is what comes from not smacking your children when they are out of order and giving them a smiley face sticker ." As someone with no children and no dog in the fight - no it isn't. There's always been division in every society to ever exist. It's made worse by those who set to profit from creating these rifts in society. Probably the kind of person you vote for. It's all very simple - make the peasants fight each other while you rob them blind. A tale as old as time. | |||
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"I can smell every reform voter here foaming from the mouth without even considering that this has been going on for decades - probably their youth (with mods and rockers at the least)." And before then it was happening in dickensian London, think Oliver Twist. there's a history of this sort of thing stretching back centuries. But some people have a habit of seeing the past through rose tinted spectacles. It's a human, but rather foolish way to misunderstand a situation. | |||
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"I can smell every reform voter here foaming from the mouth without even considering that this has been going on for decades - probably their youth (with mods and rockers at the least). And before then it was happening in dickensian London, think Oliver Twist. there's a history of this sort of thing stretching back centuries. But some people have a habit of seeing the past through rose tinted spectacles. It's a human, but rather foolish way to misunderstand a situation." Are you seriously suggesting that there has not been a massive increase in knife crime over the last 20 years? All through my school years, not one pupil was knifed to death. In the last two years, all within a 5 mile radius of where I live, there has been approximately 8 murders with knives or machetes. One of the murders was by a 12 year old boy. Don’t let facts get in the way of the fairy story…. | |||
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"I can smell every reform voter here foaming from the mouth without even considering that this has been going on for decades - probably their youth (with mods and rockers at the least). And before then it was happening in dickensian London, think Oliver Twist. there's a history of this sort of thing stretching back centuries. But some people have a habit of seeing the past through rose tinted spectacles. It's a human, but rather foolish way to misunderstand a situation." What with societal change taking us out of the Dickensian era, the law of the land dealing with Teddy Boys, and Mods and Rockers, the tradition of fighting in the street with knives may have been lost forever, but - phew, we were able to import it to keep the old ways alive. It's so lovely, and I'm sure, a socialist's wet dream, to see immigrants adhering to good old British traditions. I wonder if they'll be taking part in the The Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling event, or joining a happy band of Morris dancers? | |||
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"I can smell every reform voter here foaming from the mouth without even considering that this has been going on for decades - probably their youth (with mods and rockers at the least). And before then it was happening in dickensian London, think Oliver Twist. there's a history of this sort of thing stretching back centuries. But some people have a habit of seeing the past through rose tinted spectacles. It's a human, but rather foolish way to misunderstand a situation. Are you seriously suggesting that there has not been a massive increase in knife crime over the last 20 years? All through my school years, not one pupil was knifed to death. In the last two years, all within a 5 mile radius of where I live, there has been approximately 8 murders with knives or machetes. One of the murders was by a 12 year old boy. Don’t let facts get in the way of the fairy story…." This data is just for London. Gov UK website has more data about the whole UK. 2022/23 12,786 2021/22 11,122 2020/21 10,150 2019/20 15,928 2018/19 14,902 2017/18 14,731 2016/17 12,077 2015/16 9,752 | |||
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"I can smell every reform voter here foaming from the mouth without even considering that this has been going on for decades - probably their youth (with mods and rockers at the least). And before then it was happening in dickensian London, think Oliver Twist. there's a history of this sort of thing stretching back centuries. But some people have a habit of seeing the past through rose tinted spectacles. It's a human, but rather foolish way to misunderstand a situation. Are you seriously suggesting that there has not been a massive increase in knife crime over the last 20 years? All through my school years, not one pupil was knifed to death. In the last two years, all within a 5 mile radius of where I live, there has been approximately 8 murders with knives or machetes. One of the murders was by a 12 year old boy. Don’t let facts get in the way of the fairy story…. This data is just for London. Gov UK website has more data about the whole UK. 2022/23 12,786 2021/22 11,122 2020/21 10,150 2019/20 15,928 2018/19 14,902 2017/18 14,731 2016/17 12,077 2015/16 9,752" So, it was steadily rising until covid/lockdown periods and has been increasing again ever since. Not good stats. | |||
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"^^^Knife crimes per year in London, sorry forgot the label. In the area where I live, it is through the roof. No need for statistics, it’s every time I read a local newspaper. " I think official statistics are probably a more reliable way to measure increases or decreases in a particular type of crime. | |||
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"I can smell every reform voter here foaming from the mouth without even considering that this has been going on for decades - probably their youth (with mods and rockers at the least). And before then it was happening in dickensian London, think Oliver Twist. there's a history of this sort of thing stretching back centuries. But some people have a habit of seeing the past through rose tinted spectacles. It's a human, but rather foolish way to misunderstand a situation. Are you seriously suggesting that there has not been a massive increase in knife crime over the last 20 years? All through my school years, not one pupil was knifed to death. In the last two years, all within a 5 mile radius of where I live, there has been approximately 8 murders with knives or machetes. One of the murders was by a 12 year old boy. Don’t let facts get in the way of the fairy story…. This data is just for London. Gov UK website has more data about the whole UK. 2022/23 12,786 2021/22 11,122 2020/21 10,150 2019/20 15,928 2018/19 14,902 2017/18 14,731 2016/17 12,077 2015/16 9,752 So, it was steadily rising until covid/lockdown periods and has been increasing again ever since. Not good stats." In fact, when you look at these sats and the rate of increase pre-covid, a fairly accurate estimate at the figures of 2024 would be projected at around 18500. Double than only 9 years previously. That really isn't good. | |||
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"^^^Knife crimes per year in London, sorry forgot the label. In the area where I live, it is through the roof. No need for statistics, it’s every time I read a local newspaper. I think official statistics are probably a more reliable way to measure increases or decreases in a particular type of crime. Have you forgotten that covid was a thing? Lockdowns, social distancing? Of course knife crime was reduced then, but it was rising steadily before, and steadily afterwards." The stats I shared went back to 2015, pre COVID (yes I noticed, thanks. My Grandad died of it). There are stats going back further and for wider areas of the UK than just London. I'm not disagreeing that knife crime has increased in recent years but it's also peaked higher before now and may have been higher at other points in the past. I don't know because I've not looked at the stats. Nowadays, it can seem like something is happening with greater frequency due to the 24/7 instant news and social media sharing and so it has greater visibility. | |||
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"I'm assuming all the Teddy boy knifings in the 50s were committed by the evil immigrants too? There has always been a violent section of society. The reason we see more these days from non-whites than we used to is because there are more non-whites than there used to be. Not because non-whites are more violent than whites. People seem to conveniently forget that the past wasn't all rainbows and sprinkles. It's ridiculous for posters to tell us to remove our rose tinted specs, only to discount the entire IRA bombing history when discussing terrorism in the UK earlier, for example. Too many people have this unrealistic view of the past. Things what happens when people want to erase inconvenient truths from history - as is the current woke trend. We can’t learn from mistakes if we brush them under the social carpet. Sl8v3ry, wars, racism, murderers etc. K (as an example, I had to alter one word!! )
I'm sorry the current woke trend?
I know British people who went ti school in the 80s and 90s who where bearly thought any history about the British presence on the Island of Ireland.
Not learning about and from the past isn't a new woke trend.
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"What did you think was going to happen to society when the snowflakes called for no punishment for kids in schools nor at home? 🤣🤣🤣 Just talk to them, tell them where they won't wrong, blah blah blah. Don't push me or I will have you done for assault. 🥱🥱🥱 " Liberal experiment has a lot to answer for but of course all it’s supporters live in lovely area. I’m enjoying good old fashioned conservative values , there’s no crime here, no unemployment or homelessness everyone is safe & happy. You can’t choose to identify as a fluffy but I think it’s a small price to pay | |||
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"What did you think was going to happen to society when the snowflakes called for no punishment for kids in schools nor at home? 🤣🤣🤣 Just talk to them, tell them where they won't wrong, blah blah blah. Don't push me or I will have you done for assault. 🥱🥱🥱 Liberal experiment has a lot to answer for but of course all it’s supporters live in lovely area. I’m enjoying good old fashioned conservative values , there’s no crime here, no unemployment or homelessness everyone is safe & happy. You can’t choose to identify as a fluffy but I think it’s a small price to pay What in Nottingham "Lol no. In Nottingham you can identify as a fluffy or a furry, but you cannot wear a nice watch when you’re out at night | |||
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"If the police are met by rioters then let them use as much force as they need with the full back of the courts stop blaming them for being soft if they retaliate then thre too heavy headed they cannot win" And then everyone on social media goes nuts. Every fucker and their granny carrys a camera phone camera so the police are scrutinized in minute detail for every action. I wouldn't be a police officer in this current climate for even 50k a year. | |||
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"Music influences people in many different ways. Some makes them happy and invigorated. Some calm and at peace and some aggressive and may other feelings too. At no point in any past music have we had such aggressive lyrics and "movement". Im sure some scientists will be along soon to deny any link between music and behaviour and some will be along to form that link. Common sense does not seem to exist any more until we are told what we can see by some reliable source. Whatever happened in the past, it can not be denied that there is a very high knife crime now. It seems to be that some people either deny this is the case or that it happened also in the past so it should be acceptable now. To fix a problem you have to first see the problem. " I agree you have to identify a problem to fix it... Focusing on a type of music, which I would argue is a very very small % of the overall attitude and behaviour of any one individual, is not in my option a very efficient way of identifying the overall problem. Something is going very very wrong in our current society but I would point to the factors like minimum wages being below reasonable living wage, the gap between the 1% and the rest growing ever wider, the rise of social media, the lack of strong moral leaders in the countries that used to be beacons of justice (this one is arguable and is probably more to do with the veil being lifted) among many others, as much much greater factors than the music someone listens to. | |||
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"Music influences people in many different ways. Some makes them happy and invigorated. Some calm and at peace and some aggressive and may other feelings too. At no point in any past music have we had such aggressive lyrics and "movement". Im sure some scientists will be along soon to deny any link between music and behaviour and some will be along to form that link. Common sense does not seem to exist any more until we are told what we can see by some reliable source. Whatever happened in the past, it can not be denied that there is a very high knife crime now. It seems to be that some people either deny this is the case or that it happened also in the past so it should be acceptable now. To fix a problem you have to first see the problem. " Yup, I was eating the heads off bats as a teenager… couldn’t help myself. K | |||
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"Reports are in showing very disturbing footage of youngsters battling with machetes and swords in Southend, which is a place by the seaside in Essex where people go who can’t afford to go to Marbs. Is this the state of our younger generation now? Are we destined to a future of riots and murderous rampages by thugs, while the police stand and watch? This is all over the news….This is what comes from not smacking your children when they are out of order and giving them a smiley face sticker . Is it, though?" Oh yes no discipline kids are rude to adults ,no sense of respect for others or themselves that's how it starts ,I saw a picture on the front page of the news these people actually caught the train to take part ,they all looked violent, they had hard faces and clenched fists some even wore masks and hoodies ,the ring leaders mind didn't wear masks ,destined for another visit behind bars .Career thugs .You are the product of your upbringing. Trouble with today we all have to zip it ,be politically correct but respect is an important discipline and very much overlooked in today's society ,many of us are I give respect where respect is due . | |||
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"Reports are in showing very disturbing footage of youngsters battling with machetes and swords in Southend, which is a place by the seaside in Essex where people go who can’t afford to go to Marbs. Is this the state of our younger generation now? Are we destined to a future of riots and murderous rampages by thugs, while the police stand and watch? This is all over the news….This is what comes from not smacking your children when they are out of order and giving them a smiley face sticker ." You sound like someone who has been smacked when little. Thanks for showing the results. | |||
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"Reports are in showing very disturbing footage of youngsters battling with machetes and swords in Southend, which is a place by the seaside in Essex where people go who can’t afford to go to Marbs. Is this the state of our younger generation now? Are we destined to a future of riots and murderous rampages by thugs, while the police stand and watch? This is all over the news….This is what comes from not smacking your children when they are out of order and giving them a smiley face sticker . You sound like someone who has been smacked when little. Thanks for showing the results." Irrespective of whether I was hit when a child I have respect I'm not violent and don't condone violence this kind of thuggery is common place at football matches ,perhaps not the machetes and swords ,it all stems from discipline growing up ,their isn't any .Taking the childs telephone off them ,grounding them ,giving them smiley face rewards or sad face punishments doesn't work . You however it would appear have formed an opinion of me already without knowing anything about me just a comment about violence and violent people, it says more about you than words can say . | |||
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"Reports are in showing very disturbing footage of youngsters battling with machetes and swords in Southend, which is a place by the seaside in Essex where people go who can’t afford to go to Marbs. Is this the state of our younger generation now? Are we destined to a future of riots and murderous rampages by thugs, while the police stand and watch? This is all over the news….This is what comes from not smacking your children when they are out of order and giving them a smiley face sticker . You sound like someone who has been smacked when little. Thanks for showing the results.Irrespective of whether I was hit when a child I have respect I'm not violent and don't condone violence this kind of thuggery is common place at football matches ,perhaps not the machetes and swords ,it all stems from discipline growing up ,their isn't any .Taking the childs telephone off them ,grounding them ,giving them smiley face rewards or sad face punishments doesn't work . You however it would appear have formed an opinion of me already without knowing anything about me just a comment about violence and violent people, it says more about you than words can say ." Stop babbling, kiddo. You are the one who formed a random opinion. I am not violent and I wasn’t smacked as a child. Your assumption makes no sense and I’m here to call it for what it is | |||
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"Reports are in showing very disturbing footage of youngsters battling with machetes and swords in Southend, which is a place by the seaside in Essex where people go who can’t afford to go to Marbs. Is this the state of our younger generation now? Are we destined to a future of riots and murderous rampages by thugs, while the police stand and watch? This is all over the news….This is what comes from not smacking your children when they are out of order and giving them a smiley face sticker . You sound like someone who has been smacked when little. Thanks for showing the results.Irrespective of whether I was hit when a child I have respect I'm not violent and don't condone violence this kind of thuggery is common place at football matches ,perhaps not the machetes and swords ,it all stems from discipline growing up ,their isn't any .Taking the childs telephone off them ,grounding them ,giving them smiley face rewards or sad face punishments doesn't work . You however it would appear have formed an opinion of me already without knowing anything about me just a comment about violence and violent people, it says more about you than words can say . Stop babbling, kiddo. You are the one who formed a random opinion. I am not violent and I wasn’t smacked as a child. Your assumption makes no sense and I’m here to call it for what it is" Thank you daddy . | |||
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"License knifes over a certain size and big prison time for anyone carrying one. " Well yes. I mean who needs a knife to go out anywhere? Stop and search and zero tolerance. | |||
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"Music influences people in many different ways. Some makes them happy and invigorated. Some calm and at peace and some aggressive and may other feelings too. At no point in any past music have we had such aggressive lyrics and "movement". Im sure some scientists will be along soon to deny any link between music and behaviour and some will be along to form that link. Common sense does not seem to exist any more until we are told what we can see by some reliable source. Whatever happened in the past, it can not be denied that there is a very high knife crime now. It seems to be that some people either deny this is the case or that it happened also in the past so it should be acceptable now. To fix a problem you have to first see the problem. I agree you have to identify a problem to fix it... Focusing on a type of music, which I would argue is a very very small % of the overall attitude and behaviour of any one individual, is not in my option a very efficient way of identifying the overall problem. Something is going very very wrong in our current society but I would point to the factors like minimum wages being below reasonable living wage, the gap between the 1% and the rest growing ever wider, the rise of social media, the lack of strong moral leaders in the countries that used to be beacons of justice (this one is arguable and is probably more to do with the veil being lifted) among many others, as much much greater factors than the music someone listens to." Yep agree with all of that. It is multi faceted and complex. It's not possible to address all and quickly. But unless a start is made it won't change. Add to this the apparent increase in aggressive attitudes of young men toward women... And casual violence | |||
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"License knifes over a certain size and big prison time for anyone carrying one. Well yes. I mean who needs a knife to go out anywhere? Stop and search and zero tolerance. " Not in any way justifying it but every time those, what I would call youngsters which is literally sadly from those just in double figures to late teens) who are asked why say it's to feel safe because someone else is carrying.. That we've got to such a point is a problem societally of course with many issues within the why and the how does society deal with it.. | |||
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"What did you think was going to happen to society when the snowflakes called for no punishment for kids in schools nor at home? 🤣🤣🤣 Just talk to them, tell them where they won't wrong, blah blah blah. Don't push me or I will have you done for assault. 🥱🥱🥱 Liberal experiment has a lot to answer for but of course all it’s supporters live in lovely area. I’m enjoying good old fashioned conservative values , there’s no crime here, no unemployment or homelessness everyone is safe & happy. You can’t choose to identify as a fluffy but I think it’s a small price to pay" You only see the UAE they want you to see. Honestly 😂 | |||
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"License knifes over a certain size and big prison time for anyone carrying one. Well yes. I mean who needs a knife to go out anywhere? Stop and search and zero tolerance. Not in any way justifying it but every time those, what I would call youngsters which is literally sadly from those just in double figures to late teens) who are asked why say it's to feel safe because someone else is carrying.. That we've got to such a point is a problem societally of course with many issues within the why and the how does society deal with it.." It's a little like the American justification for gun carrying isn't it? He's got one.. So if I've got two that makes us all safer. | |||
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"I’m so glad I’ve missed the last few days on here. Bigotry seems to be rife on this platform and quite frankly the mods and site owners need to do something about it. Can I interest you in a flying pig?" I need to have a fab tantrum and say what I really feel. | |||
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"License knifes over a certain size and big prison time for anyone carrying one. Well yes. I mean who needs a knife to go out anywhere? Stop and search and zero tolerance. Not in any way justifying it but every time those, what I would call youngsters which is literally sadly from those just in double figures to late teens) who are asked why say it's to feel safe because someone else is carrying.. That we've got to such a point is a problem societally of course with many issues within the why and the how does society deal with it.. It's a little like the American justification for gun carrying isn't it? He's got one.. So if I've got two that makes us all safer. " Seen the rise of knife and gun crime become more common from the late eighties in South London to a point where it simply wasn't news particularly the latter.. | |||
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