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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So I'm watching this dvd (no not porn) and right at the start I get the piracy warning. Afterwards it states that piracy is not a victimless crime.

I've been racking my brains, what is a victimless crime ?

Crimes of fashion ?

That was the best I could think of, but even then with a crime of fashion, there is the victim wearing the clothes.

Over to the Sunday night fab'ers ......

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

are you expecting my brain to work at this time of night?

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc


"are you expecting my brain to work at this time of night?"

+

I'll just nod and smile

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Depends, are you pissed ? Lol

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Depends, are you pissed ? Lol "

ha ha, very funny forest

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By *dinMan
over a year ago

Nr Biggleswade

Sausages !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it refers to piracy being used by gangsters etc for shifting money,drugs,porn,snuff movies etc etc..

I think that might just be outdated a little...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, i don't think there is such a thing as a 'victimless crime'

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Depends, are you pissed ? Lol

ha ha, very funny forest"

If I had missed that train .......

Shurrup will ya

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

There isn't such a thing as a victimless crime but some criminals think there is. Copying a dvd for gain, cheating on insurance claims, shoplifting are all seen by some people who commit those crimes as victimless. Of course they aren't because the likes of us pay eventually.

Whether or not you consider copying dvds to give s copy to your mate is a crime is another discussion altogether of course.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Depends, are you pissed ? Lol

ha ha, very funny forest

If I had missed that train .......

Shurrup will ya"

ooooooh you got a strop lmao

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think it refers to piracy being used by gangsters etc for shifting money,drugs,porn,snuff movies etc etc..

I think that might just be outdated a little..."

I get that, but the statement 'victimless crime' was what I referring too

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Depends, are you pissed ? Lol

ha ha, very funny forest

If I had missed that train .......

Shurrup will ya

ooooooh you got a strop lmao"

Grrrrrrrr

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it were victimless then it wouldn't be a crime surely....

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Depends, are you pissed ? Lol

ha ha, very funny forest

If I had missed that train .......

Shurrup will ya

ooooooh you got a strop lmao

Grrrrrrrr

"

gis a kiss lol

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By *exykirstyWoman
over a year ago

North of Manchester

Victim less crime is defined as tax evasion, being one, as there is not just one victim, as in with copying a DVD, it is not just one person who has the crime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if i spit on the street , thats a victimless crime...

I'd get punished..but nobody was hurt or likely to be hurt...unless I spat on a drivers windshield causing a massive grogger block on the drivers view and he then swerved into a chilli potato vending stall,killing three kilted japanese warriors and their pet dogs and pet budgies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Since 1313, it has been illegal for an MP to wear a suit of armour in the Houses of Parliament.

Just who would be the victim in that scenario?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"if i spit on the street , thats a victimless crime...

I'd get punished..but nobody was hurt or likely to be hurt...unless I spat on a drivers windshield causing a massive grogger block on the drivers view and he then swerved into a chilli potato vending stall,killing three kilted japanese warriors and their pet dogs and pet budgies "

Put Like that, dam those budgies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Taking drugs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Graffitti

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Taking drugs"

how can that be victimless lol?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Since 1313, it has been illegal for an MP to wear a suit of armour in the Houses of Parliament.

Just who would be the victim in that scenario?"

the MP I imagine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Graffitti"

vandalized property someone owns

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if i spit on the street , thats a victimless crime...

I'd get punished..but nobody was hurt or likely to be hurt...unless I spat on a drivers windshield causing a massive grogger block on the drivers view and he then swerved into a chilli potato vending stall,killing three kilted japanese warriors and their pet dogs and pet budgies "

Technically its a health hazard. Saliva contains bacteria and can also pass on viruses, so there 'could' be a victim.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Graffitti"

depends where the graffiti is. On the side of my house and I'd feel I was the victim unless your name is Banksy

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Taking drugs"

think about it and all the stuff that goes on before the drugs get to you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Graffitti

vandalized property someone owns"

Yes, but it might be public property, and it can, if creative/artistic, brighten up a community. Less offensive than the (perfectly legal) advertising hoardings if you ask me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

See, we're all stuck

Victimless crime ? There's always a victim.

I've thought of the most minuscule crime, but can keep tracing a victim

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if i spit on the street , thats a victimless crime...

I'd get punished..but nobody was hurt or likely to be hurt...unless I spat on a drivers windshield causing a massive grogger block on the drivers view and he then swerved into a chilli potato vending stall,killing three kilted japanese warriors and their pet dogs and pet budgies

Technically its a health hazard. Saliva contains bacteria and can also pass on viruses, so there 'could' be a victim."

it was definitely a health hazzard for those kilted japanese warriors and their pets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Taking drugs

think about it and all the stuff that goes on before the drugs get to you. "

Yes, but that's precisely because it's illegal. The same thing doesn't happen with the alcohol trade (except for example during prohibition)

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Graffitti

vandalized property someone owns

Yes, but it might be public property, and it can, if creative/artistic, brighten up a community. Less offensive than the (perfectly legal) advertising hoardings if you ask me."

I'm inclined to agree with you but a crime is something that's illegal so graffiti qualifies for the purposes of this discussion.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Taking drugs

think about it and all the stuff that goes on before the drugs get to you.

Yes, but that's precisely because it's illegal. The same thing doesn't happen with the alcohol trade (except for example during prohibition)"

As I just said we are talking about victimless crimes and drinking alcohol isn't criminal as you point out so not relevant to the discussion.

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

Prostitution...

Euthanasia...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prostitution...

Euthanasia..."

tax evasion for the prostitution maybe?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

isn't oral sex illegal in some parts of the USA, hard to see a victim there between consensual adults.

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Prostitution...

Euthanasia...

tax evasion for the prostitution maybe?"

Who the victim??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prostitution...

Euthanasia...

tax evasion for the prostitution maybe?

Who the victim??"

the tax payer?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Prostitution...

Euthanasia..."

Hard to find a victim in the euthanasia one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"isn't oral sex illegal in some parts of the USA, hard to see a victim there between consensual adults. "

dogs have to wear knickerbockers in some states lol

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Prostitution...

Euthanasia...

tax evasion for the prostitution maybe?

Who the victim??

the tax payer?"

Manky Mary V the tax payer??

Dont think so

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Prostitution...

Euthanasia...

Hard to find a victim in the euthanasia one.

"

Might be onto a winner with that one, but legally its a crime, is it morally a crime ? Ethically a crime ?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

what about speeding? Would you call that victimless?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Prostitution...

Euthanasia...

Hard to find a victim in the euthanasia one.

Might be onto a winner with that one, but legally its a crime, is it morally a crime ? Ethically a crime ?"

Circumstance is key to that one and belief. Personally if a loved one asked me to help them end their life that was full of unbearable pain I would seriously consider doing so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Driving the wrong way around a roundabout at 4 in the morning when you can see all other entry/exit points and know 100% that there's no other traffic on the road!

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Prostitution...

Euthanasia...

Hard to find a victim in the euthanasia one.

Might be onto a winner with that one, but legally its a crime, is it morally a crime ? Ethically a crime ?"

Its a crime....But a victimless one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"what about speeding? Would you call that victimless?"

potentially victimful (made that word up)

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"what about speeding? Would you call that victimless?

potentially victimful (made that word up)"

did you! I shall use it from now on.

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"what about speeding? Would you call that victimless?"

No...

Victimless crime refers to behaviour that is illegal but does not violate or threaten the rights of anyone else....

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

Until this year it was illegal for a woman in Paris to wear trousers unless she was holding the handle bars of a bicycle or the rains of a horse.

Now that's pretty victimless if you ask me.

Jenny.

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Prostitution...

Euthanasia..."

Prostitution isn't illegal in the UK is it? I thought soliciting was the illegal part. A prostitute may pay taxes as a self-employed person.

Euthanasia is still illegal in the UK so at the moment the person helped to their death would be considered a victim and the person providing the help would also be a victim as the law would be against them.

I can't think of any victimless crimes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol"

Victim would be the person who flies through the windscreen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was talking about alcohol for purposes of comparison with illicit drugs...the only victim, directly, is the user, that's their own choice. But the effects of the drug trade happen because it's illegal. If , heroin, pot were legal like alcohol is, there wouldn't be the criminal activity in its trade.

Tax evasion...not victimless...deprives governments of money it could be spending on its citizens (many of whom have worked to make the tax evader a profit).

Prostitution...not victimless...I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to shag any dirty fucker that came along just to get by.

A victimless crime...homosexual acts between consenting adults is still illegal in many parts of the world due to outdated perceptions of morality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

haggis poaching

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol"

Is it? There may be no immediate victim on a one off occasion but going through the window and causing a Paddy type budgie accident might follow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Secondary picketing

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I was talking about alcohol for purposes of comparison with illicit drugs...the only victim, directly, is the user, that's their own choice. But the effects of the drug trade happen because it's illegal. If , heroin, pot were legal like alcohol is, there wouldn't be the criminal activity in its trade.

Tax evasion...not victimless...deprives governments of money it could be spending on its citizens (many of whom have worked to make the tax evader a profit).

Prostitution...not victimless...I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to shag any dirty fucker that came along just to get by.

A victimless crime...homosexual acts between consenting adults is still illegal in many parts of the world due to outdated perceptions of morality."

Alcohol is legal but there is still dangerous bootleg alcohol available that is killing people. Legalising something doesn't necessarily take away all of the criminal element.

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol

Victim would be the person who flies through the windscreen "

You are not counted a victim if you are the one comiting the crime...

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Victims are not those who are killed or physically harmed. Some kinds of crimes hit business and then lead to affecting people's jobs and livelihoods.

A victim of burglary or fraud is not physically hurt but they are still victims.

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol

Is it? There may be no immediate victim on a one off occasion but going through the window and causing a Paddy type budgie accident might follow."

Yeah, IF they went through windscreen..

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I was talking about alcohol for purposes of comparison with illicit drugs...the only victim, directly, is the user, that's their own choice. But the effects of the drug trade happen because it's illegal.

"

Yes I understood the point you were making but we're talking about victimless crimes and whatever we think about whether something should be illegal or not using or possessing certain drugs is illegal.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol

Victim would be the person who flies through the windscreen

You are not counted a victim if you are the one comiting the crime..."

Ok, devils advocate

What of that farmer who got jailed for reprimanding an intruder.

The criminal became the victim .....

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol

Is it? There may be no immediate victim on a one off occasion but going through the window and causing a Paddy type budgie accident might follow.

Yeah, IF they went through windscreen..

"

Even if they didn't and made a whiplash claim on the insurance then it will add to our premiums.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol

Victim would be the person who flies through the windscreen

You are not counted a victim if you are the one comiting the crime...

Ok, devils advocate

What of that farmer who got jailed for reprimanding an intruder.

The criminal became the victim ..... "

Technically they were both criminals and victims at the same time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol

Is it? There may be no immediate victim on a one off occasion but going through the window and causing a Paddy type budgie accident might follow.

Yeah, IF they went through windscreen..

"

The law in this case has to minimise risks. It's like neglecting health and safety standards doesn't necessarily result in harm, but in case it does, someone has to be held accountable.

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

You cant sit here and say "yeah, but what if..."

There are victimless crimes...

Illegal gambling..

Prostitution/Solicitation...

Taking drugs...

Driving without seat belt..

To name but a few...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol

Victim would be the person who flies through the windscreen

You are not counted a victim if you are the one comiting the crime...

Ok, devils advocate

What of that farmer who got jailed for reprimanding an intruder.

The criminal became the victim ..... "

One side says he didn't have to shoot to kill, the other says when you're in that situation, you panic

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol

Is it? There may be no immediate victim on a one off occasion but going through the window and causing a Paddy type budgie accident might follow.

Yeah, IF they went through windscreen..

The law in this case has to minimise risks. It's like neglecting health and safety standards doesn't necessarily result in harm, but in case it does, someone has to be held accountable."

Its a crime! They get punished for it!

BUT....No victim...Victimless crime!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So to summarize, there is no such thing as a 'victimless crime' ?

If the collective oracle of fab'ers can't give me one (lol) then maybe there really isn't one

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol

Is it? There may be no immediate victim on a one off occasion but going through the window and causing a Paddy type budgie accident might follow.

Yeah, IF they went through windscreen..

Even if they didn't and made a whiplash claim on the insurance then it will add to our premiums."

Your assuming they have an accident!!

Its a crime to drive without a seatbelt...accident or not!

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Driving without a seat belt would be one....

Sure there are a few we not thought of lol

Is it? There may be no immediate victim on a one off occasion but going through the window and causing a Paddy type budgie accident might follow.

Yeah, IF they went through windscreen..

Even if they didn't and made a whiplash claim on the insurance then it will add to our premiums.

Your assuming they have an accident!!

Its a crime to drive without a seatbelt...accident or not!"

Finding it difficult to argue with the seatbelt example, without adding a 'what if'

Should we try for another or is that ambitious on a Sunday evening

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"So to summarize, there is no such thing as a 'victimless crime' ?

If the collective oracle of fab'ers can't give me one (lol) then maybe there really isn't one"

To summarize.....

Victimless crime refers to behaviour that is illegal but does not violate or threaten the rights of anyone else....

So yes.....There ARE victimless crimes...

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

Solicitation....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Various types of pornography have previously been illegal in this country (hardcore until 1999, prior to that erotic literature...most recently things such as bondage, watersports)...because they would supposedly 'corrupt' those who viewed it. Now I'm not suggesting the pornography industry itself is victimless, but its possible that these could have been illegal when everyone involved was a consenting adult...again it's changing perceptions of sexual morality. Most people on this site would have been breaking the law 15 years ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

regarding the spitting in the street as a crime that may be about public health(i think its more about it being seen as a vile act than a health one), what if I, openly snot on the ground?????

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

Is gobbin a crime?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

D'oh can't believe I missed this one

University occupations

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is gobbin a crime? "

I know it is abroad in some places ..and not too sure but here I think u can be fined for it, or they are proposing it

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"D'oh can't believe I missed this one

University occupations"

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Is gobbin a crime?

I know it is abroad in some places ..and not too sure but here I think u can be fined for it, or they are proposing it"

It should be.....Its vile!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is gobbin a crime?

I know it is abroad in some places ..and not too sure but here I think u can be fined for it, or they are proposing it

It should be.....Its vile!!"

worse when ur on the number 40 lol

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Is gobbin a crime?

I know it is abroad in some places ..and not too sure but here I think u can be fined for it, or they are proposing it

It should be.....Its vile!!

worse when ur on the number 40 lol "

ewwwwwwwww can imagine! LOL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is gobbin a crime?

I know it is abroad in some places ..and not too sure but here I think u can be fined for it, or they are proposing it

It should be.....Its vile!!

worse when ur on the number 40 lol

ewwwwwwwww can imagine! LOL"

yeahh..that or sitting on someones pish! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry it's late on a Sunday but what about parking on a curb, you get a ticket for that down our street but who is that hurting.

Parking on a yellow line is a crime, who's the victim ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry it's late on a Sunday but what about parking on a curb, you get a ticket for that down our street but who is that hurting.

Parking on a yellow line is a crime, who's the victim ? "

parking is a good one I suppose...well done lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is thought of as victimless as if you didn't copy the film, you aren't likely to buy it either.

So the victim, the movie studio, wouldn't be getting your money either way.

However, with piracy leading to drugs, human trafficking, terrorism and whatever else they feel like linking it to this week, they are saying there are.victims.

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

As far as Im aware it is still illegal to sodomize a woman in this country.

So all the anal sex which takes place between consenting adults of opposite genders where the female receives is a crime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As far as Im aware it is still illegal to sodomize a woman in this country.

So all the anal sex which takes place between consenting adults of opposite genders where the female receives is a crime "

Pretty sure that law was repealed back in the '90's...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Blasphemy - The only victimless crime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As far as Im aware it is still illegal to sodomize a woman in this country.

So all the anal sex which takes place between consenting adults of opposite genders where the female receives is a crime

Pretty sure that law was repealed back in the '90's..."

bloody hope so

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Blasphemy - The only victimless crime"

I don't think that is a crime, anymore.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sorry it's late on a Sunday but what about parking on a curb, you get a ticket for that down our street but who is that hurting.

Parking on a yellow line is a crime, who's the victim ?

parking is a good one I suppose...well done lol"

Parking does have a victim, if you park on double yellow you may be obstructing traffic, and they would be the victims

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

The growing and manufacture of drugs.

Prostitution ( both parties willing )

Being naked outdoors ( as long as you are not seen )

Euthenasia

Not wearing a seat belt ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Taking drugs

think about it and all the stuff that goes on before the drugs get to you. "

Picking and eating magic mushrooms?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Breaking the law without incident?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A black cab driver not carrying a bail of hay in his boot is a crime.

Who's the victim of this heinous act though ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haymakers.

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By *itzWoman
over a year ago

south wales

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By *itzWoman
over a year ago

south wales

streaking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A black cab driver not carrying a bail of hay in his boot is a crime.

Who's the victim of this heinous act though ? "

It would be very sad if there was a hungry horse nearby.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

defacing an image of the queen on a currency?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"defacing an image of the queen on a currency?"

Would she not be awfully upset at this very rude act.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"defacing an image of the queen on a currency?

Would she not be awfully upset at this very rude act. "

one raises one's arse in i dont give a shit what one thinks!..lets raise ones arse in unison!

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"defacing an image of the queen on a currency?"

Well, you might be the victim if shops refuse to take it as not legal tender.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Blasphemy

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Blasphemy"

Some people do genuinely feel very offended by that so they could call themselves victims. Other people might disagree with them but you can't underestimate the depth of feelings of people with a keen faith.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Blasphemy

Some people do genuinely feel very offended by that so they could call themselves victims. Other people might disagree with them but you can't underestimate the depth of feelings of people with a keen faith."

Granted, but to be a crime there has to be an element of proof..blind faith doesn't cut it.

The only victims of blasphemy in some countries are the people who commit it

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Blasphemy

Some people do genuinely feel very offended by that so they could call themselves victims. Other people might disagree with them but you can't underestimate the depth of feelings of people with a keen faith.

Granted, but to be a crime there has to be an element of proof..blind faith doesn't cut it.

The only victims of blasphemy in some countries are the people who commit it"

It is certainly no longer a crime in this country, as far as I am aware. Therefore it cannot count as a victimless crime anyway - as it isn't a crime in the first place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Taking drugs

how can that be victimless lol?"

Because yer not a victim if you've got a big cheesy grin on yer face padster!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry it's late on a Sunday but what about parking on a curb, you get a ticket for that down our street but who is that hurting.

Parking on a yellow line is a crime, who's the victim ?

parking is a good one I suppose...well done lol

Parking does have a victim, if you park on double yellow you may be obstructing traffic, and they would be the victims"

A car in your way does not make you a victim!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Blasphemy

Some people do genuinely feel very offended by that so they could call themselves victims. Other people might disagree with them but you can't underestimate the depth of feelings of people with a keen faith.

Granted, but to be a crime there has to be an element of proof..blind faith doesn't cut it.

The only victims of blasphemy in some countries are the people who commit it

It is certainly no longer a crime in this country, as far as I am aware. Therefore it cannot count as a victimless crime anyway - as it isn't a crime in the first place."

Technically it's still illegal in Scotland.

It's a breach of common law in Northern Ireland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry it's late on a Sunday but what about parking on a curb, you get a ticket for that down our street but who is that hurting.

Parking on a yellow line is a crime, who's the victim ?

parking is a good one I suppose...well done lol

Parking does have a victim, if you park on double yellow you may be obstructing traffic, and they would be the victims

A car in your way does not make you a victim!

"

You would have to be quite a sensitive soul to class yourself as a victim because you got held up in a little traffic.

Would you be entitled to victim support ?

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Sorry it's late on a Sunday but what about parking on a curb, you get a ticket for that down our street but who is that hurting.

Parking on a yellow line is a crime, who's the victim ?

parking is a good one I suppose...well done lol

Parking does have a victim, if you park on double yellow you may be obstructing traffic, and they would be the victims

A car in your way does not make you a victim!

You would have to be quite a sensitive soul to class yourself as a victim because you got held up in a little traffic.

Would you be entitled to victim support ? "

But, if the vehicle you are blocking is an emergency vehicle?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry it's late on a Sunday but what about parking on a curb, you get a ticket for that down our street but who is that hurting.

Parking on a yellow line is a crime, who's the victim ?

parking is a good one I suppose...well done lol

Parking does have a victim, if you park on double yellow you may be obstructing traffic, and they would be the victims

A car in your way does not make you a victim!

You would have to be quite a sensitive soul to class yourself as a victim because you got held up in a little traffic.

Would you be entitled to victim support ?

But, if the vehicle you are blocking is an emergency vehicle?"

if you start going down the "cause and effect" route, then you'll be able to link everything eventually....

bullshit laws, bullshit crimes, bullshit criminals....

you'd think we'd be mature enough by now to govern ourselves!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"haggis poaching"

Have you seen the speed that wee bastards can run? The victims in this case would be my trainers when trying to net them!

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By *ir LongLanceMan
over a year ago

hull


"Graffitti"

How is graffiti a pitiless crime you muppet

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By *ir LongLanceMan
over a year ago

hull


"Graffitti

How is graffiti a pitiless crime you muppet "

Sorry victimless!!

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Sorry it's late on a Sunday but what about parking on a curb, you get a ticket for that down our street but who is that hurting.

Parking on a yellow line is a crime, who's the victim ?

parking is a good one I suppose...well done lol

Parking does have a victim, if you park on double yellow you may be obstructing traffic, and they would be the victims

A car in your way does not make you a victim!

You would have to be quite a sensitive soul to class yourself as a victim because you got held up in a little traffic.

Would you be entitled to victim support ?

But, if the vehicle you are blocking is an emergency vehicle?

if you start going down the "cause and effect" route, then you'll be able to link everything eventually....

bullshit laws, bullshit crimes, bullshit criminals....

you'd think we'd be mature enough by now to govern ourselves! "

We do govern ourselves. Police officers are civilians just like anyone else. MPs are civilians - and anyone can be one. All adults over 18 can vote so have a voice in determining how we govern. We have the right to protest, etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry it's late on a Sunday but what about parking on a curb, you get a ticket for that down our street but who is that hurting.

Parking on a yellow line is a crime, who's the victim ?

parking is a good one I suppose...well done lol

Parking does have a victim, if you park on double yellow you may be obstructing traffic, and they would be the victims

A car in your way does not make you a victim!

You would have to be quite a sensitive soul to class yourself as a victim because you got held up in a little traffic.

Would you be entitled to victim support ? "

An ambulance is trying to get past the car which is illegally parked and blocking the road. It has an emergency patient in the back and he needs to get to hospital asap! Still no victim?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry it's late on a Sunday but what about parking on a curb, you get a ticket for that down our street but who is that hurting.

Parking on a yellow line is a crime, who's the victim ?

parking is a good one I suppose...well done lol

Parking does have a victim, if you park on double yellow you may be obstructing traffic, and they would be the victims

A car in your way does not make you a victim!

You would have to be quite a sensitive soul to class yourself as a victim because you got held up in a little traffic.

Would you be entitled to victim support ?

But, if the vehicle you are blocking is an emergency vehicle?

if you start going down the "cause and effect" route, then you'll be able to link everything eventually....

bullshit laws, bullshit crimes, bullshit criminals....

you'd think we'd be mature enough by now to govern ourselves!

We do govern ourselves. Police officers are civilians just like anyone else. MPs are civilians - and anyone can be one. All adults over 18 can vote so have a voice in determining how we govern. We have the right to protest, etc."

Vote? Who for?

The one that tells the biggest lies?

And under the terrorist act you have to apply for a licence to protest legally!

Sounds like a facist regime to me like!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry it's late on a Sunday but what about parking on a curb, you get a ticket for that down our street but who is that hurting.

Parking on a yellow line is a crime, who's the victim ?

parking is a good one I suppose...well done lol

Parking does have a victim, if you park on double yellow you may be obstructing traffic, and they would be the victims

A car in your way does not make you a victim!

You would have to be quite a sensitive soul to class yourself as a victim because you got held up in a little traffic.

Would you be entitled to victim support ?

An ambulance is trying to get past the car which is illegally parked and blocking the road. It has an emergency patient in the back and he needs to get to hospital asap! Still no victim?"

Cause and effect big man!

Natural selection?

Call it what you will...because sometimes..shit happens!

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Ironically you can watch a copied DVD without having to sit through that shit.

Talk about preaching to the choir

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