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"I don’t agree with people being out of other’s leagues. " You sure about that ![]() ![]() | |||
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"In the past yes, but not now ![]() Same .. It's taken me years to realise that being me is enough and even then I'm still not sure but it's a work in progress ![]() | |||
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"I don’t agree with people being out of other’s leagues. You sure about that ![]() ![]() There’s a difference between being attractive to someone and being out of their league. They aren’t synonymous things. Attraction isn’t simplistic or defined as being within a certain perceived level of hotness, which is how I defined the idea of leagues. As if saying someone isn’t the same level of hotness. Who defines these leagues is unknown to me but I certainly don’t place people in leagues. | |||
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"I look and think some most definitely are out of my league!! So I don’t message, and yes I know I could be wrong about that person, but knock backs are sometimes crap to deal with. X. " Hmmm. That’s interesting, and please don’t take this the wrong way. I’ve just had a quick look at your profile and I would say I wouldn’t message as you look stunning in the your pics and yes, out of my league. But apparently I have messaged you in the past. It’s made me wonder if my confidence has gone down? And please, please don’t take this as anything other than an observation! | |||
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"Oh all the time, I seem to only like what I describe as really hot men but I never message them because they would never be interested in me lol x" The question is, if any of those men messaged you, would the hotness outweight the disregarding of what your profile says? :P | |||
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"I look and think some most definitely are out of my league!! So I don’t message, and yes I know I could be wrong about that person, but knock backs are sometimes crap to deal with. X. " Yer that's excatly how we feel especially being a larger couple | |||
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"Oh all the time, I seem to only like what I describe as really hot men but I never message them because they would never be interested in me lol x The question is, if any of those men messaged you, would the hotness outweight the disregarding of what your profile says? :P" My marriage is worth more than a shag with a really hot man lol x | |||
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"Oh all the time, I seem to only like what I describe as really hot men but I never message them because they would never be interested in me lol x The question is, if any of those men messaged you, would the hotness outweight the disregarding of what your profile says? :P My marriage is worth more than a shag with a really hot man lol x" Ahh, guessing you're not in an open marriage then? ^_^ | |||
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"Oh all the time, I seem to only like what I describe as really hot men but I never message them because they would never be interested in me lol x The question is, if any of those men messaged you, would the hotness outweight the disregarding of what your profile says? :P My marriage is worth more than a shag with a really hot man lol x Ahh, guessing you're not in an open marriage then? ^_^" We was. Long story x | |||
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"Oh all the time, I seem to only like what I describe as really hot men but I never message them because they would never be interested in me lol x The question is, if any of those men messaged you, would the hotness outweight the disregarding of what your profile says? :P My marriage is worth more than a shag with a really hot man lol x Ahh, guessing you're not in an open marriage then? ^_^ We was. Long story x" Understood, I won't pry further. x | |||
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"I be polite and probably is my downfall as when I message a girl I try to show I have manners,that's probably why I never get an answer ![]() I don't think anyone has an aversion to manners. :P I can see a more formal kind of message putting some people off, though. I identified a couple of things in messages I was sending that might imply I lack in confidence or am trying too hard, so I've made adjustments accordingly. | |||
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"out of my league" My team were in the fourth division and made it to the first. I definitely believe in leagues, and each season I dread the possibility of relegation. ![]() | |||
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"I be polite and probably is my downfall as when I message a girl I try to show I have manners,that's probably why I never get an answer ![]() Sounds like I need to make a few changes in my approach, Thanks for that | |||
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"I sometimes do. I try my best to get chats going, but it fails, big time " As TheBelladonna pointed out, there's a difference between being attractive to someone and being out of their league. It's not that your attempts are failing because you had no right to make those attempts in the first place and the people you're contacting are above you in some imaginary pecking order; you're just not their cup of tea, and that's perfectly okay. You will find people for whom your brand is the tea they enjoy the most. | |||
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"Confidence is sexy ![]() Just whip it out and shake it all about. Just make sure you don’t so it in the supermarket though ![]() | |||
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"I don't bother messaging... If I'm in anyone's league I'll wait for them to message. If they don't they so be it " I'd never get any lol | |||
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"Just get on with it and shoot your shot! " I did, and now the carpet is sticky. ![]() | |||
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"Just get on with it and shoot your shot! I did, and now the carpet is sticky. ![]() And now work on aim. :D | |||
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"I’m (j) well out of D’s league but we’ve been married 20 years so what’s the worst that can happen " Did you mention that you were out of his league when you read out your vows? ![]() | |||
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"I'm in a league of my own Don't care about anyone else " Your on a different planet though wonko ![]() | |||
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"I'm in a league of my own Don't care about anyone else Your on a different planet though wonko ![]() We can miss out on gems by not using our gut feeling it’s not all about looks it’s about outside the box and reading between the lips or lines | |||
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" Less about leagues, but I'm more inclined not to message (not that I send many) after looking at the other kind of guys they'd met and deciding I wouldn't be their type on the basis I didn't look like them, if that makes sense." I do this but when receiving messages too cause obviously being female I can’t be arsed to send the ice breakers. I wouldn’t do better than “Hi” and I’d have to urge you to delete and block me myself | |||
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"Do you ever look at profiles and think they’re way, way of your league? Personally if I look at one and think they’re far too gorgeous, I won’t message or wink. " Yep. Especially when I see who they have met in the past. We are our worst enemies for stopping something that could be good. ![]() | |||
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"All the time. I never approach people, I know my place in this world and how little I have to offer compared to other women. " Oh same here lovely, same here xx | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x Nope.... I try not to back losers ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I’ve been turnt down by users I’ve considered “out of my league”. Only to see they verifications from some total munters ![]() Maybe those people had great personalities, charm and the ability to attract interest from others. And didn't simply judge people on looks. One person's 'munter' is evidently someone else's cup of tea...... | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x" There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. " I believe the comment was directed to people putting themselves down because they think they are not attractive or good looking...nothing to do with time and resources | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. I believe the comment was directed to people putting themselves down because they think they are not attractive or good looking...nothing to do with time and resources" Hence the “I can only speak for myself” part. | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. " you said how little I have to offer that’s not backing yourself at all | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. I believe the comment was directed to people putting themselves down because they think they are not attractive or good looking...nothing to do with time and resources Hence the “I can only speak for myself” part. " There's also the "There's always that one comment" part or the "I know my worth and I'm very confident " part of your reply, like the original comment was an attack to you directly and you had to justify yourself. The original comment was very simple...too many people putting themselves down because they think they are unattractive or bad looking- so you either believe you are one of those people or you don't...has nothing to do with the time and resources part of your reply | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. " I think what you are saying is the highly desirable types have a huge following & the amount of attention they get you need to be prepared to match that and meet when they decide etc.The opposite is often true! | |||
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"Do you ever look at profiles and think they’re way, way of your league? Personally if I look at one and think they’re far too gorgeous, I won’t message or wink. Then I wonder why not? They don’t know me and I might attract a stunning partner who has a thing for fat, bald, lorry drivers. I still don’t message though. I just put them on my hotlist and tell myself I’ll message them tomorrow - and tomorrow never comes!" Well, as my old man always used to the say "aim for the stars and land on the moon." Disclaimer: you may end up orbiting a few asteroids along your travels, mucker. But fuck it! Sidequests are always fun ![]() | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. I believe the comment was directed to people putting themselves down because they think they are not attractive or good looking...nothing to do with time and resources Hence the “I can only speak for myself” part. There's also the "There's always that one comment" part or the "I know my worth and I'm very confident " part of your reply, like the original comment was an attack to you directly and you had to justify yourself. The original comment was very simple...too many people putting themselves down because they think they are unattractive or bad looking- so you either believe you are one of those people or you don't...has nothing to do with the time and resources part of your reply " Not at all what I meant but I’ll put it down to the language barrier and translation issue and leave it there. | |||
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"I’m (j) well out of D’s league but we’ve been married 20 years so what’s the worst that can happen " I’m well out of londons league….its like Man Untd playing Bridlington under 16s…..that type of out of her league……but she’s laid next to me so I must be doing something right! | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. I believe the comment was directed to people putting themselves down because they think they are not attractive or good looking...nothing to do with time and resources Hence the “I can only speak for myself” part. There's also the "There's always that one comment" part or the "I know my worth and I'm very confident " part of your reply, like the original comment was an attack to you directly and you had to justify yourself. The original comment was very simple...too many people putting themselves down because they think they are unattractive or bad looking- so you either believe you are one of those people or you don't...has nothing to do with the time and resources part of your reply " exactly my point pal | |||
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"I see loads of profiles where I think they are well out of my league so I just maybe fab a few pics then go have a cry ![]() Be a man, use the tears as lube. | |||
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"Yes I do with some profiles, I tend to look at those who have verified them too. If they are all hotties and the opposite of me, then I wouldn't message them and if they'd contacted me, I'd wonder why. " Hit the nail right on the head | |||
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"I have to admit, I do look and some profiles and think no way I'm in going to message or wink at them, especially if there are over 15 years younger then me. I mean what on earth would a 40 something want with an old fart like me ![]() London is 11hrs younger than me ![]() | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. I think what you are saying is the highly desirable types have a huge following & the amount of attention they get you need to be prepared to match that and meet when they decide etc.The opposite is often true! " That’s kind of what I mean. Add my limited availability and possibility our calendars will ever align are close to none. So I don’t even try. It doesn’t mean I feel unattractive but I can’t match others that have more resources available for them. | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. I think what you are saying is the highly desirable types have a huge following & the amount of attention they get you need to be prepared to match that and meet when they decide etc.The opposite is often true! That’s kind of what I mean. Add my limited availability and possibility our calendars will ever align are close to none. So I don’t even try. It doesn’t mean I feel unattractive but I can’t match others that have more resources available for them. " Would you consider that a "league" thing, though? That just sounds like you have differing circumstances to others, which is more of a sideways movement than an upwards one, IMO. I suppose that's the other problem I have with the entire concept; there's no real consensus on what the league actually is, which teams are playing in it, and what makes any given person higher in the rankings than any other. :P | |||
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"Do you ever look at profiles and think they’re way, way of your league? Personally if I look at one and think they’re far too gorgeous, I won’t message or wink. Then I wonder why not? They don’t know me and I might attract a stunning partner who has a thing for fat, bald, lorry drivers. I still don’t message though. I just put them on my hotlist and tell myself I’ll message them tomorrow - and tomorrow never comes!" No - they’re not out of mine and im not out of theirs - i hope no one is ever put off contacting me because they’re intimidated or think im too amazing for them- that would explain how few women message me though… jeez i need to dial down the awesomeness.. just in case!! ![]() | |||
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"I think you should always shoot your shot. You never know what that individual is in to. Just because they might be very attractive shouldn't put you off" Ah but then you also get the bullshittery of yeah I really want to meet you etc and when they actually meet you in the flesh they look at you like you've chucked a bucket of water over them ... shrug | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. I think what you are saying is the highly desirable types have a huge following & the amount of attention they get you need to be prepared to match that and meet when they decide etc.The opposite is often true! That’s kind of what I mean. Add my limited availability and possibility our calendars will ever align are close to none. So I don’t even try. It doesn’t mean I feel unattractive but I can’t match others that have more resources available for them. Would you consider that a "league" thing, though? That just sounds like you have differing circumstances to others, which is more of a sideways movement than an upwards one, IMO. I suppose that's the other problem I have with the entire concept; there's no real consensus on what the league actually is, which teams are playing in it, and what makes any given person higher in the rankings than any other. :P" That’s interesting when you put it that way. I still think it’s a “league” think, whatever the league is indeed. I stand by Mr Hot Nots comment above, it kinda makes sense to me and explains why I rarely contact those people, and even if I do - things don’t always go as smoothly as with other, more available ones. | |||
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"Do you ever look at profiles and think they’re way, way of your league? Personally if I look at one and think they’re far too gorgeous, I won’t message or wink. Then I wonder why not? They don’t know me and I might attract a stunning partner who has a thing for fat, bald, lorry drivers. I still don’t message though. I just put them on my hotlist and tell myself I’ll message them tomorrow - and tomorrow never comes!" All the time. Even now that P has a single profile I look at her pics and think she is out of my league. C | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. I think what you are saying is the highly desirable types have a huge following & the amount of attention they get you need to be prepared to match that and meet when they decide etc.The opposite is often true! That’s kind of what I mean. Add my limited availability and possibility our calendars will ever align are close to none. So I don’t even try. It doesn’t mean I feel unattractive but I can’t match others that have more resources available for them. Would you consider that a "league" thing, though? That just sounds like you have differing circumstances to others, which is more of a sideways movement than an upwards one, IMO. I suppose that's the other problem I have with the entire concept; there's no real consensus on what the league actually is, which teams are playing in it, and what makes any given person higher in the rankings than any other. :P That’s interesting when you put it that way. I still think it’s a “league” think, whatever the league is indeed. I stand by Mr Hot Nots comment above, it kinda makes sense to me and explains why I rarely contact those people, and even if I do - things don’t always go as smoothly as with other, more available ones. " Going back to what I said before about it being potentially insulting to the person, I actually knew a woman once who had been interested in a guy, but changed her mind when he thought she was out of his league, because the fact that he'd thought he knew what she wanted better than she did turned her off. It's a tricky tightrope to walk sometimes, for sure. | |||
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"Do you ever look at profiles and think they’re way, way of your league? Personally if I look at one and think they’re far too gorgeous, I won’t message or wink. Then I wonder why not? They don’t know me and I might attract a stunning partner who has a thing for fat, bald, lorry drivers. I still don’t message though. I just put them on my hotlist and tell myself I’ll message them tomorrow - and tomorrow never comes!" All the time, especially when all his verifications are from thin stunning younger women | |||
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"To many people putting themselves down on this post back yourselfs x There’s always that one comment. It’s not about putting ourselves down but being realistic. I can only speak for myself here and I know my limits regarding time, availability and resources and I know there’s always someone more available, more willing, more present. I know my worth and I am very confident in my abilities, just not as much resourceful as others are. Hope it makes sense. I think what you are saying is the highly desirable types have a huge following & the amount of attention they get you need to be prepared to match that and meet when they decide etc.The opposite is often true! That’s kind of what I mean. Add my limited availability and possibility our calendars will ever align are close to none. So I don’t even try. It doesn’t mean I feel unattractive but I can’t match others that have more resources available for them. Would you consider that a "league" thing, though? That just sounds like you have differing circumstances to others, which is more of a sideways movement than an upwards one, IMO. I suppose that's the other problem I have with the entire concept; there's no real consensus on what the league actually is, which teams are playing in it, and what makes any given person higher in the rankings than any other. :P" I think it does have an impact but you perceive that highly desirable people , with their followers crave attention and are going to be hard work to get into bed or even date. But often the opposite is true, they find authenticity and someone who doesn’t chase them refreshing among all the fake compliments | |||
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"No. I did before. Not so much leagues in terms of conventional attractiveness (which do matter to some) but more... I didn't think that a person would possibly be interested in me. And then I realised that's a reflection of me and my low self esteem, how I was doubting myself. Now I have occasional wobbles, worry that there's no chance they could be interested in me, not because they're on a pedestal but because I'm not good enough. And then I try. Try anyway. See what happens. Because sometimes it can be so incredibly hot and beautiful and I want a life filled with those experiences and not ones of doubt." You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, as they say. ![]() | |||
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"I met M on a vanilla dating site. She liked a few of my pics on there and that gave me courage to start conversation. I don’t think I would have if she hadn’t liked those pics. But I do believe in Game Theory. If you are in a nightclub and everyone is focussing their attention on the person deemed most attractive everyone else may get upset from being ignored, even worse when the pursuers downgrade expectations and work their way down their imagined list of hotness. No one likes being second/third/fourth choice. Bit different on here as no one knows who anyone is messaging so what have you got to lose?" This is important and why not showing veris helps. People imagine all kinds of social quotients often a lack of centrality on here is your best asset | |||
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". You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, as they say. ![]() Well said MM | |||
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"No, I never think that. My problem is I rarely ever message first. I am attracted to younger than myself lately, so that's the only barrier for me as I think perhaps I am 'too old' for them" You're only as old as the man you feel, or however that saying goes. :D | |||
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"Everyone has wobbles in their confidence and self esteem. As someone who really struggled with that in my 20’s and early 30’s it took a fairly big health scare for me to realise that life really is too short. Shoot your shot " This, exactly this….life is to be embraced and not filled with doubts or wondering if someone is going to like us or not. Shoot that shot and what will be will be ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I look and think some most definitely are out of my league!! So I don’t message, and yes I know I could be wrong about that person, but knock backs are sometimes crap to deal with. X. " This | |||
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"Back when I was single, I had a really good friend who viscerally hated the concept of ‘out of my league’. If any of his friends uttered the dreaded phrase, he’d give them a good hard slap across the face. Every time. It genuinely helped. I think it helped us all accept that it’s a bloody stupid idea." I very much like your mates approach... You like who you like, and if they like you great. | |||
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"Back when I was single, I had a really good friend who viscerally hated the concept of ‘out of my league’. If any of his friends uttered the dreaded phrase, he’d give them a good hard slap across the face. Every time. It genuinely helped. I think it helped us all accept that it’s a bloody stupid idea. I very much like your mates approach... You like who you like, and if they like you great. " 99% of the time I like them but it's unreciprocated... I've learnt to stay in my own lane ... lol | |||
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"Do you ever look at profiles and think they’re way, way of your league? Personally if I look at one and think they’re far too gorgeous, I won’t message or wink. Then I wonder why not? They don’t know me and I might attract a stunning partner who has a thing for fat, bald, lorry drivers. I still don’t message though. I just put them on my hotlist and tell myself I’ll message them tomorrow - and tomorrow never comes!" I know what you mean. For me it's usually the age that stops me, although I have met people twenty years younger than me, just not enough of them. | |||
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"Yes I do... " Impossible your photos are Stunning!! ![]() | |||
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"I look and think some most definitely are out of my league!! So I don’t message, and yes I know I could be wrong about that person, but knock backs are sometimes crap to deal with. X. " Exactly what I always think as well knock backs are hard to take. X | |||
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"I've had messages & thought nope out of my league & deleted...saves disappointment later ![]() Your stunning I am definitely out of your league and wouldn't stand a chance so I would be to scared to send message | |||
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"Definitely not out of someone’s league, I mean we’re all in the same league right?! It’s a question of chemistry, timing & connection. Oh and perhaps the old thing such as a personality. " Exactly this ![]() | |||
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"I look and think some most definitely are out of my league!! So I don’t message, and yes I know I could be wrong about that person, but knock backs are sometimes crap to deal with. X. " Premier League Munchy xxx | |||
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