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"Because football fans fight and rugby fans finger each other and drink pints of piss. They’re just two types of people that will never get along." If they were to fight and then finger each other, surely some common ground can be found! | |||
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"Because football fans fight and rugby fans finger each other and drink pints of piss. They’re just two types of people that will never get along. If they were to fight and then finger each other, surely some common ground can be found!" The fingering would start another fight and then they’d be stuck in a vicious circle. | |||
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"Soccer is corrupt - whether it's buying votes to stage the World Cup in a misogynistic desert or rolling round like you've been shot because someone's boot came within sight of your ankle. Rugby is still a sport with values, even if they are under threat. Also rugby play is more varied. Soccer is just kick, head and run. Rugby has pass, run, tackle, ruck, maul, scrum, lineout (and an occasional header). " I’m not getting into the debate on which sport is better but football at the highest level is much more skilled game than rugby. Rugby was invented for the kids that couldn’t play football. | |||
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"Soccer is corrupt - whether it's buying votes to stage the World Cup in a misogynistic desert or rolling round like you've been shot because someone's boot came within sight of your ankle. Rugby is still a sport with values, even if they are under threat. Also rugby play is more varied. Soccer is just kick, head and run. Rugby has pass, run, tackle, ruck, maul, scrum, lineout (and an occasional header). " But would you have a go at golf and boxing for the same issues you've mentioned with the ferocity you have with football? A lot of it is about demand as well and if there was a demand for rugby in those countries, it would be naive to think teams and boards wouldn't go for it | |||
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"I'm a rugby fan and not particularly fussed for football but if I was home I had the euros on. I don't have a problem with the game if it's good - I don't particularly like the often over dramatic falls to get a free kick etc. Just play the game and make it good, then I'm happy "You'll find a lot of football agreeing with you on the diving. It's a shame it's part of the game because referees only really give something if they can see it could be serious, otherwise players would get actually get lumps kicked out of them | |||
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"Well given the option to watch football or Rugby I'd choose to watch cycling "A true neutral. I like it | |||
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"Growing up in Glasgow its was always going to be football that I played and watched. Rugby was for the posh boys I do enjoy watching the rugby international games though" I didn't know rugby was an elitist sport. There's definitely room for liking both as there is with any other sport though! | |||
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"I played international schoolboy football. I now prefer to watch Rugby. Football is too dishonest for me, the lack of respect for the referees and each other is poor and I find it a bit embarrassing. I played when this wasn’t as prevalent, we just didn’t talk back to referees 25 years ago. Rugby is a complex team game requiring loads of skill in every position. Scrummaging is highly complex, even if it does look a bit like the fatties having a wrestle to the untrained eye "I get what you mean about the refs. I'm also a cricket fan and you never see players behave that way towards the umpires and unfortunately in football, there isn't enough of a deterrent. Would you say that most calls in rugby are more black and white? I can't comment on tactics and skill as I'm sure both sports have their fair share. | |||
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"Different sides of the same coin, that's all it is. It's tribal, and both sides are guilty of it. If the roles were reversed and rugby was the "bigger'sport, football fans would be doing the exact same thing, trying to pull rugby down. I mean it happens as it is with some football fans anyway. For some it's just friendly back and forth piss taking but others simply hate sports that are not theirs. However some of the worst bullying towards other sports and their fans I have witnessed have come from football fans. All the way from primary school to adult life. It's one of the most extreme forms of tribalism in the modern world and often for some cult levels of disillusion. One is about more about power the other more about finnese. One is designed around full contact, the other is closer to semi contact. Im a fan of neither to be honest, but both have their own things to admire in what they do. But when it comes down to it at a professional level I find rugby far more entertaining to watch compared to pro football players as a whole - the whole lie/cheat/steal theatrics and dramatics to gain an advantage are very off putting. Like I said in a different thread I also have a dislike for the absolute laughable fickle outlook a lot (not all!!) football fans have when it comes to "support" " A very well balanced reply! I have to ask though, you mention the tribalism in football which I assume you mean by people following their teams and then mention the fans being fickle in their support. How can it be both as opposed to one or the other? | |||
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"Growing up in Glasgow its was always going to be football that I played and watched. Rugby was for the posh boys I do enjoy watching the rugby international games though I didn't know rugby was an elitist sport. There's definitely room for liking both as there is with any other sport though!" It was back in the 70’s 80’s there was no school rugby teams apart from the fee paying schools | |||
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"Soccer is corrupt - whether it's buying votes to stage the World Cup in a misogynistic desert or rolling round like you've been shot because someone's boot came within sight of your ankle. Rugby is still a sport with values, even if they are under threat. Also rugby play is more varied. Soccer is just kick, head and run. Rugby has pass, run, tackle, ruck, maul, scrum, lineout (and an occasional header). " Rugby is a sport with values. Is it not misogynistic at all? I wonder how you square these authoritative statements with the recent news that two French rugby players have been accused of "aggravated r@pe" and another player accused of wilfully destroying the contents of a woman's house back in 2021. It's entirely as misogynistic as association football and there's as much nonsense said about the women's games of rugby (U and L) as are said about women's association football. | |||
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"Both games are shite. Bunch of fucking pussies these days. I do enjoy typing soccer on the serious football threads though "^^^Wonky ball feeler  | |||
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"Both games are shite. Bunch of fucking pussies these days. I do enjoy typing soccer on the serious football threads though "I should do this on rugby threads and ask how many touchdowns have been scored | |||
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"Both games are shite. Bunch of fucking pussies these days. I do enjoy typing soccer on the serious football threads though
I should do this on rugby threads and ask how many touchdowns have been scored "Yeah but that’s not the same. Not the same at all. Get out Joe. You’ve really let yourself down. | |||
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"It's never been either/or for me. Played both at school (we had no choice), and still watch both now. I follow football more closely and don't support a rugby club team in the same way, so I guess some rugby fans might argue I'm not a "real" fan, and that's fine by me. I never really get why we need a comparison either. There's room for both, but I find it ridiculous when people seem to suggest football is easy. Any top footballer has got there through skill, hard work and dedication, like any sport at the elite level." Exactly, being a fan of both should be as normal as being a fan of multiple other sports but I find the digs between football fans and rugby fans to mainly come from one side which is what intrigued me. | |||
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"Both games are shite. Bunch of fucking pussies these days. I do enjoy typing soccer on the serious football threads though
I should do this on rugby threads and ask how many touchdowns have been scored
Yeah but that’s not the same.
Not the same at all.
Get out Joe.
You’ve really let yourself down.
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"Both games are shite. Bunch of fucking pussies these days. I do enjoy typing soccer on the serious football threads though
I should do this on rugby threads and ask how many touchdowns have been scored
Yeah but that’s not the same.
Not the same at all.
Get out Joe.
You’ve really let yourself down.
You can't kick me out my own thread! You get out... Or politely leave. It's up to you "Ona serious note though, I’ve never been one to slag off the football for the sake of it. The things that make my eyes roll about the sport are the same as any genuine football fanatic. I find that those kinds of comments mainly come from people that know next to fuck all about either sport but feel safer and more comfortable pretending to be rugby as it’s generally played by the less athletically gifted. | |||
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"Ona serious note though, I’ve never been one to slag off the football for the sake of it. The things that make my eyes roll about the sport are the same as any genuine football fanatic. I find that those kinds of comments mainly come from people that know next to fuck all about either sport but feel safer and more comfortable pretending to be rugby as it’s generally played by the less athletically gifted. " I think you're absolutely right. I'm aware of a lot of the shortcomings of football so when they're used as an insult, it does feel a bit like low hanging fruit but I couldn't comment on rugby in the same way as I don't want to comment on a sport I know nothing about. Btw, pro rugby players being that big and being able to run the way they do is impressively athletic! | |||
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"Imagine having an inferiority complex about Rugby, a sport that's only taken seriously by about 6 countries, at best. There's a reason why they have to call their world cup, the "Rugby World Cup", whilst the football world cup is simply "the world cup" "What about all the other world cups though? The cricket world cup? Hockey works cup? Basketball world cup? Etc. There's tons of 'em. | |||
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"Imagine having an inferiority complex about Rugby, a sport that's only taken seriously by about 6 countries, at best. There's a reason why they have to call their world cup, the "Rugby World Cup", whilst the football world cup is simply "the world cup"
What about all the other world cups though? The cricket world cup? Hockey works cup? Basketball world cup? Etc. There's tons of 'em. "And they all have something in common, they're all minority sports. I don't even think basketball fans care about their world cup. The Olympic basketball tournament is probably considered to be bigger. Just went on Wikipedia, I think Yugoslavia have won the FIBA World Cup more times than the United States, which tells you everything you need to know about that cup | |||
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"Growing up in Glasgow its was always going to be football that I played and watched. Rugby was for the posh boys I do enjoy watching the rugby international games though I didn't know rugby was an elitist sport. There's definitely room for liking both as there is with any other sport though! It was back in the 70’s 80’s there was no school rugby teams apart from the fee paying schools " That's not true. I played for my school rugby team in the early seventies. It was a state comprehensive and we played against many other schools in Kent. | |||
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"Imagine having an inferiority complex about Rugby, a sport that's only taken seriously by about 6 countries, at best. There's a reason why they have to call their world cup, the "Rugby World Cup", whilst the football world cup is simply "the world cup"
What about all the other world cups though? The cricket world cup? Hockey works cup? Basketball world cup? Etc. There's tons of 'em.
And they all have something in common, they're all minority sports. I don't even think basketball fans care about their world cup. The Olympic basketball tournament is probably considered to be bigger.
Just went on Wikipedia, I think Yugoslavia have won the FIBA World Cup more times than the United States, which tells you everything you need to know about that cup "Yugoslavia ceased to exist in 1992. Serbia is ranked 3rd in the FIBA rankings. The top ranked team doesn't always win the WC! In football, see: France, football WC winners and no. 2 ranked in 2018. Etc. | |||
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"Yugoslavia ceased to exist in 1992" But that's exactly the point
The country who's domestic basketball league is worth trllions of dollars, are so indifferent to the fiba tournament that they haven't bothered to field a team strong enough to win it more times than a country that hasn't even existed for 30 years.
If the United States even remotely took that tournament seriously, they would win it every year it was played.
Basketball as a sport is nowhere near as competitive as football. | |||
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"Btw, the answer to the original question is social class... let's not dance around the obvious. It's been that way since the beginning of both sports. One is for the aristocrats, and the other is for the proletariat. They don't even like rugby league, for similar reasons. What I will say is RL is a less shit version of rugby, if such a thing exists. At least they had the good sense to do away with that weird group hugging & groping the public school lot are into "Rugby is not a upper-middle class sport in South Wales or the West of England. | |||
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"Soccer is corrupt - whether it's buying votes to stage the World Cup in a misogynistic desert or rolling round like you've been shot because someone's boot came within sight of your ankle. Rugby is still a sport with values, even if they are under threat. Also rugby play is more varied. Soccer is just kick, head and run. Rugby has pass, run, tackle, ruck, maul, scrum, lineout (and an occasional header). " 
In addition, soccer players are young little skinny scrotes with barely the ability to string a complete sentence together.
Soccer players complain to the referee CONSTANTLY for fake injuries.
Whereas rugby players are noble, very strong, have a fascinating history, are well-educated and well-spoken and NEVER EVER talk back to the ref.
Plus rugby players are HOT.
And it's ten times more physical and also requires more teamwork and strategy than boring ass soccer.
Soccer is like pro-wrestling = FAKE
Rugby is a true man's sport (and women's... female rugby players don't get half the recognition as their male counterparts but they're very good).
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"Football (at a professional level) has always been entertainment and a sport aimed at mass viewing. Rugby (Union,) was a sport aimed at people who played rugby or who had retired from rugby which was why the rules were not explained on TV until recently (particularly the dark arts of the scrum). Rugby is now trying to attract non players as ticket buyers and it is less interesting for me. As for misogyny both games have had players arrested for assault. However structurally I believe rugby adapted to women players quicker than football. The last team I played for started a woman's team in the late 1990's. The other difference is in union you don't separate the fans. I have sat in Twickenham intermingled with, Scots, French and Irish fans, and wandered around after the games. Not a hint of violence just singing and banter in pubs. " | |||
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"Btw, the answer to the original question is social class... let's not dance around the obvious. It's been that way since the beginning of both sports. One is for the aristocrats, and the other is for the proletariat. They don't even like rugby league, for similar reasons. What I will say is RL is a less shit version of rugby, if such a thing exists. At least they had the good sense to do away with that weird group hugging & groping the public school lot are into "Speak for yourself, rugby league is Booooooo-ring. And your dig at social class is nonsense. The current Ireland outhalf, who beat SA with a last second drop goal is from Skerries. Nor exactly Blackrock College  | |||
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"Growing up in Glasgow its was always going to be football that I played and watched. Rugby was for the posh boys I do enjoy watching the rugby international games though I didn't know rugby was an elitist sport. There's definitely room for liking both as there is with any other sport though! It was back in the 70’s 80’s there was no school rugby teams apart from the fee paying schools That's not true. I played for my school rugby team in the early seventies. It was a state comprehensive and we played against many other schools in Kent." I did say I grew up in Glasgow, west of Scotland was especially football 100% | |||
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"Btw, the answer to the original question is social class... let's not dance around the obvious. It's been that way since the beginning of both sports. One is for the aristocrats, and the other is for the proletariat. They don't even like rugby league, for similar reasons. What I will say is RL is a less shit version of rugby, if such a thing exists. At least they had the good sense to do away with that weird group hugging & groping the public school lot are into
Rugby is not a upper-middle class sport in South Wales or the West of England. "We live in prime rugby league territory and it's defo a working class game here. | |||
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"Because football fans fight and rugby fans finger each other and drink pints of piss. They’re just two types of people that will never get along." Is that whet happened you when you went to a rugby match? Oh dear. Well, that’s not standard practice. | |||
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"I like both. I find it infuriaring when anyone knocks any professional sport... Just don't fucking watch it you bellends and ignore" I once found myself on a train, where a group of supporters of a London club were patrolling with knives, “looking for a paddy to slice up”. I’m supposed to “ignore” that? The culture in football is toxic, and it’s not just an England problem. | |||
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"I like both. I find it infuriaring when anyone knocks any professional sport... Just don't fucking watch it you bellends and ignore I once found myself on a train, where a group of supporters of a London club were patrolling with knives, “looking for a paddy to slice up”. I’m supposed to “ignore” that? The culture in football is toxic, and it’s not just an England problem. " Say less | |||
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"Growing up in Glasgow its was always going to be football that I played and watched. Rugby was for the posh boys I do enjoy watching the rugby international games though I didn't know rugby was an elitist sport. There's definitely room for liking both as there is with any other sport though! It was back in the 70’s 80’s there was no school rugby teams apart from the fee paying schools " Have things changed at all? I grew up in Dublin, and my experience in the 70’s / 80’s was similar (blackrock etc were the rugby schools), but it was different in other cities, and has changed beyond recognition in Dublin too, more schools playing rugby and lots more kids coming through clubs rather than big rugby schools. For example, the guy playing fullback for Ireland at the weekend came through his local rugby club in Kildare rather than one of the big rugby schools. | |||
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"I'm a fan of both, Joe. Usually with Rugby fans they were dog shit at football and it's left a bad taste." That's what's odd to me. I've never been amazing at football or a lot of other sports but would never talk them down in terms of skill | |||
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"I like both. I find it infuriaring when anyone knocks any professional sport... Just don't fucking watch it you bellends and ignore I once found myself on a train, where a group of supporters of a London club were patrolling with knives, “looking for a paddy to slice up”. I’m supposed to “ignore” that? The culture in football is toxic, and it’s not just an England problem. Say less " I won’t be silenced by you. You might not like hearing about armed racial abuse, but it happened. | |||
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"Btw, the answer to the original question is social class... let's not dance around the obvious. It's been that way since the beginning of both sports. One is for the aristocrats, and the other is for the proletariat. They don't even like rugby league, for similar reasons. What I will say is RL is a less shit version of rugby, if such a thing exists. At least they had the good sense to do away with that weird group hugging & groping the public school lot are into
Speak for yourself, rugby league is Booooooo-ring.
And your dig at social class is nonsense. The current Ireland outhalf, who beat SA with a last second drop goal is from Skerries.
Nor exactly Blackrock College "… and Osborne came through his local club in Naas. That’s more common in Ireland now, kids coming through local clubs rather than being the preserve of the big rugby schools. And more crossover between rugby and GAA, for example a couple of Galway u18 footballers also bring on underage Ireland rugby teams. Again, lads who did not come through big rugby schools | |||
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"Imagine having an inferiority complex about Rugby, a sport that's only taken seriously by about 6 countries, at best. There's a reason why they have to call their world cup, the "Rugby World Cup", whilst the football world cup is simply "the world cup" "You mean The FIFA World Cup … There are many “world cups” in many sports. Nothing to do with inferiority complex … a strange allegation to fire at rugby players and their supporters! | |||
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"Growing up in Glasgow its was always going to be football that I played and watched. Rugby was for the posh boys I do enjoy watching the rugby international games though I didn't know rugby was an elitist sport. There's definitely room for liking both as there is with any other sport though!" “Elitism” can be a localised experience. Growing up in Dublin in the 70’s/ 80’s, rugby was almost exclusively the preserve of the big fee-paying schools. That was different in other parts of the country, like Galway, cork, Limerick. Also, that dynamic is changed in the intervening years, with a lot more kids playing the game and joining local clubs. But I can absolutely see how some people might have grown up seeing it as the posh kid’s sport, as that may have been the lay of the land in their area. | |||
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"So throughout the Euros, I've seen a lot of threads on football with the inevitable comments deriding it and noticed a theme that it's commonly done by rugby fans. As a fan of football, I think it looks like a massive inferiority complex but I'm genuinely curious as to why some rugby fans have such a disdain for football. If you're a fan of both sports, it'll be interesting to hear what you think too." Getting back you your original question, it must the first time I have ever seen rugby fans being accused of having an inferiority complex. The accusation is usually the exact opposite, arrogance and superiority. I watch many sports, and enjoy going to sports events. This year I have been to the Rugby Champions Cup final, Wimbledon, Henley, am going to the Diamond League in London on Saturday, and going to Paris for the Olympics. | |||
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"I like both. I find it infuriaring when anyone knocks any professional sport... Just don't fucking watch it you bellends and ignore I once found myself on a train, where a group of supporters of a London club were patrolling with knives, “looking for a paddy to slice up”. I’m supposed to “ignore” that? The culture in football is toxic, and it’s not just an England problem. Say less I won’t be silenced by you. You might not like hearing about armed racial abuse, but it happened. " say less, I've got you bruv | |||
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"Getting back you your original question, it must the first time I have ever seen rugby fans being accused of having an inferiority complex. The accusation is usually the exact opposite, arrogance and superiority. I watch many sports, and enjoy going to sports events. This year I have been to the Rugby Champions Cup final, Wimbledon, Henley, am going to the Diamond League in London on Saturday, and going to Paris for the Olympics. " Hope you enjoy the Olympics! I suppose it's because whenever I've seen negative comments, it's been one way which has been rugby fans saying the usual stuff about football. Personally, I think the arrogance and superiority is a mask for being annoyed that football is a more popular sport. But that's just my perspective. | |||
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"Soccer is corrupt - whether it's buying votes to stage the World Cup in a misogynistic desert or rolling round like you've been shot because someone's boot came within sight of your ankle. Rugby is still a sport with values, even if they are under threat. Also rugby play is more varied. Soccer is just kick, head and run. Rugby has pass, run, tackle, ruck, maul, scrum, lineout (and an occasional header).
In addition, soccer players are young little skinny scrotes with barely the ability to string a complete sentence together.
Soccer players complain to the referee CONSTANTLY for fake injuries.
Whereas rugby players are noble, very strong, have a fascinating history, are well-educated and well-spoken and NEVER EVER talk back to the ref.
Plus rugby players are HOT.
And it's ten times more physical and also requires more teamwork and strategy than boring ass soccer.
Soccer is like pro-wrestling = FAKE
Rugby is a true man's sport (and women's... female rugby players don't get half the recognition as their male counterparts but they're very good)."This reads like a fan fiction... And not even a good one | |||
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"I like both. I find it infuriaring when anyone knocks any professional sport... Just don't fucking watch it you bellends and ignore I once found myself on a train, where a group of supporters of a London club were patrolling with knives, “looking for a paddy to slice up”. I’m supposed to “ignore” that? The culture in football is toxic, and it’s not just an England problem. Say less I won’t be silenced by you. You might not like hearing about armed racial abuse, but it happened. say less, I've got you bruv" Looks like you need to be reminded of the forum rules, and the need to be respectful to other posters. | |||
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"Rugby is for real men with real skill, football is for small boys who prance around and fall over. I know which ones I'd rather have in bed... " Small boys? Yet again, no acceptance of football (or rugby) as a sport for everyone. No matter what your gender. Ah well. | |||
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"I watch both rugby league and football What annoys me in football that players go down has if they have been shot by a sniper with minimal contact " I've mentioned this above and agree with you about that being annoying but unfortunately, they probably have to play it up for genuine fouls to be called, otherwise we'll only see fouls being called for serious tackles that puts the players at the risk of injury. | |||
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"Rugby is for real men with real skill, football is for small boys who prance around and fall over. I know which ones I'd rather have in bed... " What is a ‘real man’? | |||
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"Rugby is for real men with real skill, football is for small boys who prance around and fall over. I know which ones I'd rather have in bed... Small boys? Yet again, no acceptance of football (or rugby) as a sport for everyone. No matter what your gender. Ah well. " Gotta love the body shaming of footballers as well | |||
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"Rugby is for real men with real skill, football is for small boys who prance around and fall over. I know which ones I'd rather have in bed... Small boys? Yet again, no acceptance of football (or rugby) as a sport for everyone. No matter what your gender. Ah well. Gotta love the body shaming of footballers as well "Yep. From what I've seen, footballers have to be in incredible shape and have their fitness strictly monitored etc. | |||
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Yep. From what I've seen, footballers have to be in incredible shape and have their fitness strictly monitored etc. "Exactly.
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Yep. From what I've seen, footballers have to be in incredible shape and have their fitness strictly monitored etc. "No football player will match a rugby guy in any fitness matrix! Naked zero comparison! Again in bed only one I'm picking is a rugby guy! | |||
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"Imagine having an inferiority complex about Rugby, a sport that's only taken seriously by about 6 countries, at best. There's a reason why they have to call their world cup, the "Rugby World Cup", whilst the football world cup is simply "the world cup"
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There are many “world cups” in many sports. Nothing to do with inferiority complex … a strange allegation to fire at rugby players and their supporters! "No, I mean the world cup. Say the "world cup" in real life, and 99% of the worlds human population will automatically assume you're talking about Association Football. That's the fact of the matter | |||
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Simpler one, rugby players attitudes towards refs v football players treatment towards refs can be passed onto how they would treat their partners too. Gentlemen v thugs comes to mind! After any game it's all into the bar to have a joke, all is left on the pitch, both sets of fans can exist with respect in the same bar and nobody fighting. Enough said case closed"A majority of football fans get along just fine. But of course, you would go to the extreme scale of it. Likening treatment of refs to treatment of partners is one of the worst cases of false equivalence I've seen. Oh but sorry you said case closed so that obviously means you're right... | |||
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Yep. From what I've seen, footballers have to be in incredible shape and have their fitness strictly monitored etc.
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Simpler one, rugby players attitudes towards refs v football players treatment towards refs can be passed onto how they would treat their partners too. Gentlemen v thugs comes to mind! After any game it's all into the bar to have a joke, all is left on the pitch, both sets of fans can exist with respect in the same bar and nobody fighting. Enough said case closed
A majority of football fans get along just fine. But of course, you would go to the extreme scale of it. Likening treatment of refs to treatment of partners is one of the worst cases of false equivalence I've seen. Oh but sorry you said case closed so that obviously means you're right..."Go look up the volume of fines in the European cup, from football fines, compare the fines or police required for a soccer game anywhere, even local towns! Correct case closed. | |||
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Simpler one, rugby players attitudes towards refs v football players treatment towards refs can be passed onto how they would treat their partners too. Gentlemen v thugs comes to mind! After any game it's all into the bar to have a joke, all is left on the pitch, both sets of fans can exist with respect in the same bar and nobody fighting. Enough said case closed"Gentlemen……eye gouging, biting, punchups on the field……….thats gentlemanly? | |||
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"Soccer is corrupt - whether it's buying votes to stage the World Cup in a misogynistic desert or rolling round like you've been shot because someone's boot came within sight of your ankle. Rugby is still a sport with values, even if they are under threat. Also rugby play is more varied. Soccer is just kick, head and run. Rugby has pass, run, tackle, ruck, maul, scrum, lineout (and an occasional header).
In addition, soccer players are young little skinny scrotes with barely the ability to string a complete sentence together.
Soccer players complain to the referee CONSTANTLY for fake injuries.
Whereas rugby players are noble, very strong, have a fascinating history, are well-educated and well-spoken and NEVER EVER talk back to the ref.
Plus rugby players are HOT.
And it's ten times more physical and also requires more teamwork and strategy than boring ass soccer.
Soccer is like pro-wrestling = FAKE
Rugby is a true man's sport (and women's... female rugby players don't get half the recognition as their male counterparts but they're very good).
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Simpler one, rugby players attitudes towards refs v football players treatment towards refs can be passed onto how they would treat their partners too. Gentlemen v thugs comes to mind! After any game it's all into the bar to have a joke, all is left on the pitch, both sets of fans can exist with respect in the same bar and nobody fighting. Enough said case closed
Gentlemen……eye gouging, biting, punchups on the field……….thats gentlemanly? "And left on the field, and laugh about it afterwards, just like boxing or combat sports, no riots at rugby is their, can supports walk past the opposition alone safely! | |||
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Yep. From what I've seen, footballers have to be in incredible shape and have their fitness strictly monitored etc.
No football player will match a rugby guy in any fitness matrix! Naked zero comparison! Again in bed only one I'm picking is a rugby guy! "I will disagree on the fitness front and I am very confident that performance in bed is NOT a category monitored by the fitness coaches at football clubs. It's irrelevant. | |||
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"I'm not a fan of either I much prefer boxing and motorsports, still I don't get this either, one of the men I used to train with was a Cardiff city supporter and absolutely hated anyone who was into rugby. People think of all South Wales as being rugby, but there’s loads of antipathy to the sport amongst Cardiff and Swansea fans. Some of it revolves around the bootcut jeans and brogues (“sheux”) look sported by many rugby fans ."It's like a hipster counter-culture, with completely unjustified delusions of grandeur
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"Different sides of the same coin, that's all it is. It's tribal, and both sides are guilty of it. If the roles were reversed and rugby was the "bigger'sport, football fans would be doing the exact same thing, trying to pull rugby down. I mean it happens as it is with some football fans anyway. For some it's just friendly back and forth piss taking but others simply hate sports that are not theirs. However some of the worst bullying towards other sports and their fans I have witnessed have come from football fans. All the way from primary school to adult life. It's one of the most extreme forms of tribalism in the modern world and often for some cult levels of disillusion. One is about more about power the other more about finnese. One is designed around full contact, the other is closer to semi contact. Im a fan of neither to be honest, but both have their own things to admire in what they do. But when it comes down to it at a professional level I find rugby far more entertaining to watch compared to pro football players as a whole - the whole lie/cheat/steal theatrics and dramatics to gain an advantage are very off putting. Like I said in a different thread I also have a dislike for the absolute laughable fickle outlook a lot (not all!!) football fans have when it comes to "support" A very well balanced reply! I have to ask though, you mention the tribalism in football which I assume you mean by people following their teams and then mention the fans being fickle in their support. How can it be both as opposed to one or the other?" The tribalism is projected outwardly, towards opposition and none fans. The fickleness, inward towards the players and managers itself. | |||
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I prefer to say it's 30 public school alumni in hot pants, moving slowly across a bog.
It's basically the Eton Wall Game, sans the wall. It's an absolutely appalling spectacle. It's easy to see why it's not a popular sport."… again, the assumption that rugby is only played by public schools. If you don’t like the game, that’s absolutely fine, you do t have to. But keep it realistic | |||
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I prefer to say it's 30 public school alumni in hot pants, moving slowly across a bog.
It's basically the Eton Wall Game, sans the wall. It's an absolutely appalling spectacle. It's easy to see why it's not a popular sport.
… again, the assumption that rugby is only played by public schools.
If you don’t like the game, that’s absolutely fine, you do t have to. But keep it realistic "I'll level with you. I'm not here to try and find a common understanding or reach some kind of philosophical compromise, I'm just here to shit on rugby union make no bones about that
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"I like both. I find it infuriaring when anyone knocks any professional sport... Just don't fucking watch it you bellends and ignore I once found myself on a train, where a group of supporters of a London club were patrolling with knives, “looking for a paddy to slice up”. I’m supposed to “ignore” that? The culture in football is toxic, and it’s not just an England problem. " | |||
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"You get to watch 30 hardened men instead of 22 spoilt boys
I prefer to say it's 30 public school alumni in hot pants, moving slowly across a bog.
It's basically the Eton Wall Game, sans the wall. It's an absolutely appalling spectacle. It's easy to see why it's not a popular sport.
… again, the assumption that rugby is only played by public schools.
If you don’t like the game, that’s absolutely fine, you do t have to. But keep it realistic
I'll level with you. I'm not here to try and find a common understanding or reach some kind of philosophical compromise, I'm just here to shit on rugby union make no bones about that
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"Rugby is a sport with values. Is it not misogynistic at all? I wonder how you square these authoritative statements with the recent news that two French rugby players have been accused of "aggravated r@pe" and another player accused of wilfully destroying the contents of a woman's house back in 2021. It's entirely as misogynistic as association football and there's as much nonsense said about the women's games of rugby (U and L) as are said about women's association football. " I didn't say that soccer was misogynistic (or that rugby wasn't). I referred to the "misogynistic desert" (Qatar) in which the last World Cup was played as a result of bribery. | |||
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"I’m fortunate enough to have been brought up supporting shite teams in both sports. Everton will always be my number one but my family are all die hard Warrington Wolves fans so I’ve grown up watching and playing both. I’ve always swayed more towards football though simply because I’m better at it. Well I think I am anyway "We need to do a Fab 5-a-side at some point. I'm really interested in knowing how good some Fabbers are | |||
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We need to do a Fab 5-a-side at some point. I'm really interested in knowing how good some Fabbers are "5-a-side in rugby is called 7’s Joe. Did you know? | |||
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"I’m fortunate enough to have been brought up supporting shite teams in both sports. Everton will always be my number one but my family are all die hard Warrington Wolves fans so I’ve grown up watching and playing both. I’ve always swayed more towards football though simply because I’m better at it. Well I think I am anyway
We need to do a Fab 5-a-side at some point. I'm really interested in knowing how good some Fabbers are
5-a-side in rugby is called 7’s Joe.
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"I’m fortunate enough to have been brought up supporting shite teams in both sports. Everton will always be my number one but my family are all die hard Warrington Wolves fans so I’ve grown up watching and playing both. I’ve always swayed more towards football though simply because I’m better at it. Well I think I am anyway
We need to do a Fab 5-a-side at some point. I'm really interested in knowing how good some Fabbers are
5-a-side in rugby is called 7’s Joe.
Did you know?
I didn't know that! But can we make it tag rugby so there's no contact "We’d be better off playing 5-a-side, at least I could go in goal or something. Tag rugby kind of eliminates my skill set… | |||
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"I’m fortunate enough to have been brought up supporting shite teams in both sports. Everton will always be my number one but my family are all die hard Warrington Wolves fans so I’ve grown up watching and playing both. I’ve always swayed more towards football though simply because I’m better at it. Well I think I am anyway
We need to do a Fab 5-a-side at some point. I'm really interested in knowing how good some Fabbers are "I’d be up for that…still play 7 a side now and can kick/keep up with the youngsters
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"Because football fans fight and rugby fans finger each other and drink pints of piss. They’re just two types of people that will never get along." I'm a rugby fan, and I'm not getting any fingering. I blame the wimmin of fab. | |||
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"I’m fortunate enough to have been brought up supporting shite teams in both sports. Everton will always be my number one but my family are all die hard Warrington Wolves fans so I’ve grown up watching and playing both. I’ve always swayed more towards football though simply because I’m better at it. Well I think I am anyway
We need to do a Fab 5-a-side at some point. I'm really interested in knowing how good some Fabbers are
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I’d be down for that. I used to play right wing for my club but I’m not as nippy as I used to be. I’d be happier at right back nowadays like a prime Tony Hibbert "Primes about 50p a bottle now - just sayin
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"So throughout the Euros, I've seen a lot of threads on football with the inevitable comments deriding it and noticed a theme that it's commonly done by rugby fans. As a fan of football, I think it looks like a massive inferiority complex but I'm genuinely curious as to why some rugby fans have such a disdain for football. If you're a fan of both sports, it'll be interesting to hear what you think too." Because as someone who played and loved both sports but now just plays the walking version of football, even I have to roll my eyes at the pathetic antics of footballers rolling around as though they’ve been shot by a sniper. Plus there disrespectful hand bag waving at the referee is an embarrassment. I still love the game but Rugby is so much superior in terms of the wat the players conduct themselves. | |||
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"I got asked to join a rugby team as a winger as I was fast AF and I went on a night out with them before I went to the training. They were all huge and they could drink and drink and I thought I only have to be hit by one of these guys on the pitch and I’m never getting up. So I stuck to football "Yep wise decision.. | |||
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"I got asked to join a rugby team as a winger as I was fast AF and I went on a night out with them before I went to the training. They were all huge and they could drink and drink and I thought I only have to be hit by one of these guys on the pitch and I’m never getting up. So I stuck to football "What you find is that those big fuckers on your team would of made it their mission to make sure no other big fucker got near you and you scored a lot of points  | |||
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"I’m fortunate enough to have been brought up supporting shite teams in both sports. Everton will always be my number one but my family are all die hard Warrington Wolves fans so I’ve grown up watching and playing both. I’ve always swayed more towards football though simply because I’m better at it. Well I think I am anyway
We need to do a Fab 5-a-side at some point. I'm really interested in knowing how good some Fabbers are
I’d be up for that…still play 7 a side now and can kick/keep up with the youngsters
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"So throughout the Euros, I've seen a lot of threads on football with the inevitable comments deriding it and noticed a theme that it's commonly done by rugby fans. As a fan of football, I think it looks like a massive inferiority complex but I'm genuinely curious as to why some rugby fans have such a disdain for football. If you're a fan of both sports, it'll be interesting to hear what you think too." It’s really a simple complex to understand. Football players spend the whole match pretending they’re injured. Rugby players spend the whole match that they aren’t. | |||
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"So throughout the Euros, I've seen a lot of threads on football with the inevitable comments deriding it and noticed a theme that it's commonly done by rugby fans. As a fan of football, I think it looks like a massive inferiority complex but I'm genuinely curious as to why some rugby fans have such a disdain for football. If you're a fan of both sports, it'll be interesting to hear what you think too. It’s really a simple complex to understand. Football players spend the whole match pretending they’re injured. Rugby players spend the whole match that they aren’t. " THIS!! And if anybody has ever had the genuine pleasure to watch the legendary referee Nigel Owen's then you'd understand. | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one "Oh go boil yer cabbage. A lot of rugby players are family men. The difference is, they are inclusive, make no homophonic jokes and support their gay players and staff. Besides, some of the kinkiest lovers I had were rugby players. Whereas the toxic homophobia, sexism and racism surrounding an idiotic and boring AF "sport" like soccer makes me wanna vom. | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
Oh go boil yer cabbage. A lot of rugby players are family men. The difference is, they are inclusive, make no homophonic jokes and support their gay players and staff.
Besides, some of the kinkiest lovers I had were rugby players.
Whereas the toxic homophobia, sexism and racism surrounding an idiotic and boring AF "sport" like soccer makes me wanna vom."A lot of your comments have gone a long way to proving Joe's original hypothesis. Liking one thing over another doesn't mean the other is lesser. It's quite an odd way to view two different sports, to me anyway. | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
Oh go boil yer cabbage. A lot of rugby players are family men. The difference is, they are inclusive, make no homophonic jokes and support their gay players and staff.
Besides, some of the kinkiest lovers I had were rugby players.
Whereas the toxic homophobia, sexism and racism surrounding an idiotic and boring AF "sport" like soccer makes me wanna vom.
A lot of your comments have gone a long way to proving Joe's original hypothesis.
Liking one thing over another doesn't mean the other is lesser. It's quite an odd way to view two different sports, to me anyway."This is pretty much what I was getting at really. It's ok to like one sport over the other, but the way in which some rugby fans go about it is what genuinely baffles me | |||
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I’m a huge football fan, but find many football fans irritating and uninformed. Contrastingly I can’t stand Rugby (think it’s just how it looks and if I’m honest the public school aspect) but have good friends who adore it. At the end of the day it’s just sport! | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
Oh go boil yer cabbage. A lot of rugby players are family men. The difference is, they are inclusive, make no homophonic jokes and support their gay players and staff.
Besides, some of the kinkiest lovers I had were rugby players.
Whereas the toxic homophobia, sexism and racism surrounding an idiotic and boring AF "sport" like soccer makes me wanna vom.
A lot of your comments have gone a long way to proving Joe's original hypothesis.
Liking one thing over another doesn't mean the other is lesser. It's quite an odd way to view two different sports, to me anyway."No. It reflects soccer nonsense and soccer fans sense of entitlement. I grew up in a neighborhood with a huge Italian-Canadian continent. They don't STFU about soccer. Then there's the extended family overseas. They don't STFU about soccer either. I grew up liking only one team sport: hockey (that's "ice hockey" to you, limey). NHL and Hockey Night in Canada were popular on both sides of the border. Training takes years and the strength, stamina and discipline required to play hockey us awe-inspiring. Then I watched the famous Ireland v England rugby union Six Nations match in February 2007 at Croke Park. I was agog. Croke Park was the site of British army shooting up of GAA supporters on Bloody Sunday, 1921. Ever since then, "foreign" sports weren't allowed. Croke Park has enough seating for 83,500 people. The regular rugby/soccer stadium in Dublin was under construction so there was no choice but to host England at Croke Park. Security was extremely tight but nobody bat an eyelash. The England anthem "God Save The Queen" was played and everyone politely clapped. No fuss, no insults. When the "Amhrán na bhFiann", called "The Soldier's Song" was played, followed by "Ireland's Call", the entire stadium erupted. The final score? 43-13 to Ireland. And both sides shook hands and history made. The playing was superb - especially from Ronan O'Gara and the legendary Brian O'Driscoll. And I've been hooked ever since. I support every rugby team (except England, on historical grounds) but I'd never shout abuse or whistle at the outhalf when he's ready to convert a try. Whereas every. Single. Soccer Match is a bloody racist/sectarian din. When England were playing Spain in some recent match the BBC interviewed a Scottish fan wearing a Spain tee shirt and telling the interviewer there's no reason he'd ever support England in soccer and would rather see Spain win which made us laugh. It kind of reminds me of the old USSR vs USA Olympic matches where every single Canadian would loudly sing along to the Russian National Anthem and hoping that Vladislav Tretiak, one of the goalie legends in hockey history, would block all goals by those fatarse yanks. And they never lost. But no Canadian in history has ever threatened violence to other players before, during or after a hockey match. And the same for rugby union. When the New Zealand All-Blacks play, regardless of where you're from, everyone cheers when they perform The Haka. And no one ever EVER screws with the referee. Can you say the same about soccer? I think NOT. | |||
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"Soccer is corrupt - whether it's buying votes to stage the World Cup in a misogynistic desert or rolling round like you've been shot because someone's boot came within sight of your ankle. Rugby is still a sport with values, even if they are under threat. Also rugby play is more varied. Soccer is just kick, head and run. Rugby has pass, run, tackle, ruck, maul, scrum, lineout (and an occasional header). I’m not getting into the debate on which sport is better but football at the highest level is much more skilled game than rugby. Rugby was invented for the kids that couldn’t play football." That's funny. Wayne Rooney would have been trained up to be a minor hurler in the GAA. What a load of nonsense. | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
Oh go boil yer cabbage. A lot of rugby players are family men. The difference is, they are inclusive, make no homophonic jokes and support their gay players and staff.
Besides, some of the kinkiest lovers I had were rugby players.
Whereas the toxic homophobia, sexism and racism surrounding an idiotic and boring AF "sport" like soccer makes me wanna vom.
A lot of your comments have gone a long way to proving Joe's original hypothesis.
Liking one thing over another doesn't mean the other is lesser. It's quite an odd way to view two different sports, to me anyway.
No. It reflects soccer nonsense and soccer fans sense of entitlement.
I grew up in a neighborhood with a huge Italian-Canadian continent. They don't STFU about soccer.
Then there's the extended family overseas. They don't STFU about soccer either.
I grew up liking only one team sport: hockey (that's "ice hockey" to you, limey). NHL and Hockey Night in Canada were popular on both sides of the border. Training takes years and the strength, stamina and discipline required to play hockey us awe-inspiring.
Then I watched the famous Ireland v England rugby union Six Nations match in February 2007 at Croke Park. I was agog.
Croke Park was the site of British army shooting up of GAA supporters on Bloody Sunday, 1921.
Ever since then, "foreign" sports weren't allowed. Croke Park has enough seating for 83,500 people.
The regular rugby/soccer stadium in Dublin was under construction so there was no choice but to host England at Croke Park.
Security was extremely tight but nobody bat an eyelash. The England anthem "God Save The Queen" was played and everyone politely clapped. No fuss, no insults.
When the "Amhrán na bhFiann", called "The Soldier's Song" was played, followed by "Ireland's Call", the entire stadium erupted.
The final score? 43-13 to Ireland. And both sides shook hands and history made. The playing was superb - especially from Ronan O'Gara and the legendary Brian O'Driscoll.
And I've been hooked ever since.
I support every rugby team (except England, on historical grounds) but I'd never shout abuse or whistle at the outhalf when he's ready to convert a try.
Whereas every. Single. Soccer Match is a bloody racist/sectarian din. When England were playing Spain in some recent match the BBC interviewed a Scottish fan wearing a Spain tee shirt and telling the interviewer there's no reason he'd ever support England in soccer and would rather see Spain win which made us laugh.
It kind of reminds me of the old USSR vs USA Olympic matches where every single Canadian would loudly sing along to the Russian National Anthem and hoping that Vladislav Tretiak, one of the goalie legends in hockey history, would block all goals by those fatarse yanks. And they never lost.
But no Canadian in history has ever threatened violence to other players before, during or after a hockey match.
And the same for rugby union. When the New Zealand All-Blacks play, regardless of where you're from, everyone cheers when they perform The Haka.
And no one ever EVER screws with the referee.
Can you say the same about soccer?
I think NOT."Canadian hockey isn't as white as you say it is. Huge sexual assault scandals, accusations of misogyny and racism etc. I'm sure you know about it, if you read the Canadian press. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hockey-culture-systemic-problem-minister-of-sport-says-1.6601431 | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
Oh go boil yer cabbage. A lot of rugby players are family men. The difference is, they are inclusive, make no homophonic jokes and support their gay players and staff.
Besides, some of the kinkiest lovers I had were rugby players.
Whereas the toxic homophobia, sexism and racism surrounding an idiotic and boring AF "sport" like soccer makes me wanna vom.
A lot of your comments have gone a long way to proving Joe's original hypothesis.
Liking one thing over another doesn't mean the other is lesser. It's quite an odd way to view two different sports, to me anyway.
No. It reflects soccer nonsense and soccer fans sense of entitlement.
I grew up in a neighborhood with a huge Italian-Canadian continent. They don't STFU about soccer.
Then there's the extended family overseas. They don't STFU about soccer either.
I grew up liking only one team sport: hockey (that's "ice hockey" to you, limey). NHL and Hockey Night in Canada were popular on both sides of the border. Training takes years and the strength, stamina and discipline required to play hockey us awe-inspiring.
Then I watched the famous Ireland v England rugby union Six Nations match in February 2007 at Croke Park. I was agog.
Croke Park was the site of British army shooting up of GAA supporters on Bloody Sunday, 1921.
Ever since then, "foreign" sports weren't allowed. Croke Park has enough seating for 83,500 people.
The regular rugby/soccer stadium in Dublin was under construction so there was no choice but to host England at Croke Park.
Security was extremely tight but nobody bat an eyelash. The England anthem "God Save The Queen" was played and everyone politely clapped. No fuss, no insults.
When the "Amhrán na bhFiann", called "The Soldier's Song" was played, followed by "Ireland's Call", the entire stadium erupted.
The final score? 43-13 to Ireland. And both sides shook hands and history made. The playing was superb - especially from Ronan O'Gara and the legendary Brian O'Driscoll.
And I've been hooked ever since.
I support every rugby team (except England, on historical grounds) but I'd never shout abuse or whistle at the outhalf when he's ready to convert a try.
Whereas every. Single. Soccer Match is a bloody racist/sectarian din. When England were playing Spain in some recent match the BBC interviewed a Scottish fan wearing a Spain tee shirt and telling the interviewer there's no reason he'd ever support England in soccer and would rather see Spain win which made us laugh.
It kind of reminds me of the old USSR vs USA Olympic matches where every single Canadian would loudly sing along to the Russian National Anthem and hoping that Vladislav Tretiak, one of the goalie legends in hockey history, would block all goals by those fatarse yanks. And they never lost.
But no Canadian in history has ever threatened violence to other players before, during or after a hockey match.
And the same for rugby union. When the New Zealand All-Blacks play, regardless of where you're from, everyone cheers when they perform The Haka.
And no one ever EVER screws with the referee.
Can you say the same about soccer?
I think NOT.
Canadian hockey isn't as white as you say it is. Huge sexual assault scandals, accusations of misogyny and racism etc. I'm sure you know about it, if you read the Canadian press.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hockey-culture-systemic-problem-minister-of-sport-says-1.6601431"Excuse me? That's nonsense. If it makes the national news, it's because it's RARE. Jeebus wept. | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
Oh go boil yer cabbage. A lot of rugby players are family men. The difference is, they are inclusive, make no homophonic jokes and support their gay players and staff.
Besides, some of the kinkiest lovers I had were rugby players.
Whereas the toxic homophobia, sexism and racism surrounding an idiotic and boring AF "sport" like soccer makes me wanna vom.
A lot of your comments have gone a long way to proving Joe's original hypothesis.
Liking one thing over another doesn't mean the other is lesser. It's quite an odd way to view two different sports, to me anyway.
No. It reflects soccer nonsense and soccer fans sense of entitlement.
I grew up in a neighborhood with a huge Italian-Canadian continent. They don't STFU about soccer.
Then there's the extended family overseas. They don't STFU about soccer either.
I grew up liking only one team sport: hockey (that's "ice hockey" to you, limey). NHL and Hockey Night in Canada were popular on both sides of the border. Training takes years and the strength, stamina and discipline required to play hockey us awe-inspiring.
Then I watched the famous Ireland v England rugby union Six Nations match in February 2007 at Croke Park. I was agog.
Croke Park was the site of British army shooting up of GAA supporters on Bloody Sunday, 1921.
Ever since then, "foreign" sports weren't allowed. Croke Park has enough seating for 83,500 people.
The regular rugby/soccer stadium in Dublin was under construction so there was no choice but to host England at Croke Park.
Security was extremely tight but nobody bat an eyelash. The England anthem "God Save The Queen" was played and everyone politely clapped. No fuss, no insults.
When the "Amhrán na bhFiann", called "The Soldier's Song" was played, followed by "Ireland's Call", the entire stadium erupted.
The final score? 43-13 to Ireland. And both sides shook hands and history made. The playing was superb - especially from Ronan O'Gara and the legendary Brian O'Driscoll.
And I've been hooked ever since.
I support every rugby team (except England, on historical grounds) but I'd never shout abuse or whistle at the outhalf when he's ready to convert a try.
Whereas every. Single. Soccer Match is a bloody racist/sectarian din. When England were playing Spain in some recent match the BBC interviewed a Scottish fan wearing a Spain tee shirt and telling the interviewer there's no reason he'd ever support England in soccer and would rather see Spain win which made us laugh.
It kind of reminds me of the old USSR vs USA Olympic matches where every single Canadian would loudly sing along to the Russian National Anthem and hoping that Vladislav Tretiak, one of the goalie legends in hockey history, would block all goals by those fatarse yanks. And they never lost.
But no Canadian in history has ever threatened violence to other players before, during or after a hockey match.
And the same for rugby union. When the New Zealand All-Blacks play, regardless of where you're from, everyone cheers when they perform The Haka.
And no one ever EVER screws with the referee.
Can you say the same about soccer?
I think NOT.
Canadian hockey isn't as white as you say it is. Huge sexual assault scandals, accusations of misogyny and racism etc. I'm sure you know about it, if you read the Canadian press.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hockey-culture-systemic-problem-minister-of-sport-says-1.6601431"Oh and let me guess... Soccer players don't assault women? What utter bollix. | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
Oh go boil yer cabbage. A lot of rugby players are family men. The difference is, they are inclusive, make no homophonic jokes and support their gay players and staff.
Besides, some of the kinkiest lovers I had were rugby players.
Whereas the toxic homophobia, sexism and racism surrounding an idiotic and boring AF "sport" like soccer makes me wanna vom.
A lot of your comments have gone a long way to proving Joe's original hypothesis.
Liking one thing over another doesn't mean the other is lesser. It's quite an odd way to view two different sports, to me anyway.
No. It reflects soccer nonsense and soccer fans sense of entitlement.
I grew up in a neighborhood with a huge Italian-Canadian continent. They don't STFU about soccer.
Then there's the extended family overseas. They don't STFU about soccer either.
I grew up liking only one team sport: hockey (that's "ice hockey" to you, limey). NHL and Hockey Night in Canada were popular on both sides of the border. Training takes years and the strength, stamina and discipline required to play hockey us awe-inspiring.
Then I watched the famous Ireland v England rugby union Six Nations match in February 2007 at Croke Park. I was agog.
Croke Park was the site of British army shooting up of GAA supporters on Bloody Sunday, 1921.
Ever since then, "foreign" sports weren't allowed. Croke Park has enough seating for 83,500 people.
The regular rugby/soccer stadium in Dublin was under construction so there was no choice but to host England at Croke Park.
Security was extremely tight but nobody bat an eyelash. The England anthem "God Save The Queen" was played and everyone politely clapped. No fuss, no insults.
When the "Amhrán na bhFiann", called "The Soldier's Song" was played, followed by "Ireland's Call", the entire stadium erupted.
The final score? 43-13 to Ireland. And both sides shook hands and history made. The playing was superb - especially from Ronan O'Gara and the legendary Brian O'Driscoll.
And I've been hooked ever since.
I support every rugby team (except England, on historical grounds) but I'd never shout abuse or whistle at the outhalf when he's ready to convert a try.
Whereas every. Single. Soccer Match is a bloody racist/sectarian din. When England were playing Spain in some recent match the BBC interviewed a Scottish fan wearing a Spain tee shirt and telling the interviewer there's no reason he'd ever support England in soccer and would rather see Spain win which made us laugh.
It kind of reminds me of the old USSR vs USA Olympic matches where every single Canadian would loudly sing along to the Russian National Anthem and hoping that Vladislav Tretiak, one of the goalie legends in hockey history, would block all goals by those fatarse yanks. And they never lost.
But no Canadian in history has ever threatened violence to other players before, during or after a hockey match.
And the same for rugby union. When the New Zealand All-Blacks play, regardless of where you're from, everyone cheers when they perform The Haka.
And no one ever EVER screws with the referee.
Can you say the same about soccer?
I think NOT."Yes, I remember that match. And history between the UK and Ireland is obviously very complicated. But making sweeping generalisations don't make them true. "Every single football match"/ "no Canadian in history" - you simply have no idea if that is true, so you the hyperbole just looks a bit silly. I've never heard sectarian chanting at a game I've been at. It's obviously a huge problem in some games (e.g. Rangers v Celtic), but it's not widespread. Racism remains a scourge in many areas of society - including some football fans, though I think we've done a lot to improve that in the UK during my lifetime. But football crowds (and teams) are, generally speaking, much more diverse than rugby. Racism exists. Sectarianism exists. But you tarring every footballer or football fan with the same brush just undermines your point. And if you really believe Scottish rugby fans would be happily cheering England on, it makes me wonder how many you've met! | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
Oh go boil yer cabbage. A lot of rugby players are family men. The difference is, they are inclusive, make no homophonic jokes and support their gay players and staff.
Besides, some of the kinkiest lovers I had were rugby players.
Whereas the toxic homophobia, sexism and racism surrounding an idiotic and boring AF "sport" like soccer makes me wanna vom.
A lot of your comments have gone a long way to proving Joe's original hypothesis.
Liking one thing over another doesn't mean the other is lesser. It's quite an odd way to view two different sports, to me anyway.
No. It reflects soccer nonsense and soccer fans sense of entitlement.
I grew up in a neighborhood with a huge Italian-Canadian continent. They don't STFU about soccer.
Then there's the extended family overseas. They don't STFU about soccer either.
I grew up liking only one team sport: hockey (that's "ice hockey" to you, limey). NHL and Hockey Night in Canada were popular on both sides of the border. Training takes years and the strength, stamina and discipline required to play hockey us awe-inspiring.
Then I watched the famous Ireland v England rugby union Six Nations match in February 2007 at Croke Park. I was agog.
Croke Park was the site of British army shooting up of GAA supporters on Bloody Sunday, 1921.
Ever since then, "foreign" sports weren't allowed. Croke Park has enough seating for 83,500 people.
The regular rugby/soccer stadium in Dublin was under construction so there was no choice but to host England at Croke Park.
Security was extremely tight but nobody bat an eyelash. The England anthem "God Save The Queen" was played and everyone politely clapped. No fuss, no insults.
When the "Amhrán na bhFiann", called "The Soldier's Song" was played, followed by "Ireland's Call", the entire stadium erupted.
The final score? 43-13 to Ireland. And both sides shook hands and history made. The playing was superb - especially from Ronan O'Gara and the legendary Brian O'Driscoll.
And I've been hooked ever since.
I support every rugby team (except England, on historical grounds) but I'd never shout abuse or whistle at the outhalf when he's ready to convert a try.
Whereas every. Single. Soccer Match is a bloody racist/sectarian din. When England were playing Spain in some recent match the BBC interviewed a Scottish fan wearing a Spain tee shirt and telling the interviewer there's no reason he'd ever support England in soccer and would rather see Spain win which made us laugh.
It kind of reminds me of the old USSR vs USA Olympic matches where every single Canadian would loudly sing along to the Russian National Anthem and hoping that Vladislav Tretiak, one of the goalie legends in hockey history, would block all goals by those fatarse yanks. And they never lost.
But no Canadian in history has ever threatened violence to other players before, during or after a hockey match.
And the same for rugby union. When the New Zealand All-Blacks play, regardless of where you're from, everyone cheers when they perform The Haka.
And no one ever EVER screws with the referee.
Can you say the same about soccer?
I think NOT.
Yes, I remember that match. And history between the UK and Ireland is obviously very complicated.
But making sweeping generalisations don't make them true. "Every single football match"/ "no Canadian in history" - you simply have no idea if that is true, so you the hyperbole just looks a bit silly.
I've never heard sectarian chanting at a game I've been at. It's obviously a huge problem in some games (e.g. Rangers v Celtic), but it's not widespread. Racism remains a scourge in many areas of society - including some football fans, though I think we've done a lot to improve that in the UK during my lifetime. But football crowds (and teams) are, generally speaking, much more diverse than rugby. Racism exists. Sectarianism exists. But you tarring every footballer or football fan with the same brush just undermines your point.
And if you really believe Scottish rugby fans would be happily cheering England on, it makes me wonder how many you've met!"I never said Scottish rugby fans cheer England. No one does. Again. You guys kinda suck - for historical reasons. Sore losers AND sore winner's though the refs do a pretty good job at clamping down on that nonsense and the game has gotten much cleaner and safer in the past decade. And speaking of tarring brushes, calling rugby fans people with "inferiority complexes" says more about your ignorance of the game and the culture. | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
Oh go boil yer cabbage. A lot of rugby players are family men. The difference is, they are inclusive, make no homophonic jokes and support their gay players and staff.
Besides, some of the kinkiest lovers I had were rugby players.
Whereas the toxic homophobia, sexism and racism surrounding an idiotic and boring AF "sport" like soccer makes me wanna vom.
A lot of your comments have gone a long way to proving Joe's original hypothesis.
Liking one thing over another doesn't mean the other is lesser. It's quite an odd way to view two different sports, to me anyway.
No. It reflects soccer nonsense and soccer fans sense of entitlement.
I grew up in a neighborhood with a huge Italian-Canadian continent. They don't STFU about soccer.
Then there's the extended family overseas. They don't STFU about soccer either.
I grew up liking only one team sport: hockey (that's "ice hockey" to you, limey). NHL and Hockey Night in Canada were popular on both sides of the border. Training takes years and the strength, stamina and discipline required to play hockey us awe-inspiring.
Then I watched the famous Ireland v England rugby union Six Nations match in February 2007 at Croke Park. I was agog.
Croke Park was the site of British army shooting up of GAA supporters on Bloody Sunday, 1921.
Ever since then, "foreign" sports weren't allowed. Croke Park has enough seating for 83,500 people.
The regular rugby/soccer stadium in Dublin was under construction so there was no choice but to host England at Croke Park.
Security was extremely tight but nobody bat an eyelash. The England anthem "God Save The Queen" was played and everyone politely clapped. No fuss, no insults.
When the "Amhrán na bhFiann", called "The Soldier's Song" was played, followed by "Ireland's Call", the entire stadium erupted.
The final score? 43-13 to Ireland. And both sides shook hands and history made. The playing was superb - especially from Ronan O'Gara and the legendary Brian O'Driscoll.
And I've been hooked ever since.
I support every rugby team (except England, on historical grounds) but I'd never shout abuse or whistle at the outhalf when he's ready to convert a try.
Whereas every. Single. Soccer Match is a bloody racist/sectarian din. When England were playing Spain in some recent match the BBC interviewed a Scottish fan wearing a Spain tee shirt and telling the interviewer there's no reason he'd ever support England in soccer and would rather see Spain win which made us laugh.
It kind of reminds me of the old USSR vs USA Olympic matches where every single Canadian would loudly sing along to the Russian National Anthem and hoping that Vladislav Tretiak, one of the goalie legends in hockey history, would block all goals by those fatarse yanks. And they never lost.
But no Canadian in history has ever threatened violence to other players before, during or after a hockey match.
And the same for rugby union. When the New Zealand All-Blacks play, regardless of where you're from, everyone cheers when they perform The Haka.
And no one ever EVER screws with the referee.
Can you say the same about soccer?
I think NOT.
Canadian hockey isn't as white as you say it is. Huge sexual assault scandals, accusations of misogyny and racism etc. I'm sure you know about it, if you read the Canadian press.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hockey-culture-systemic-problem-minister-of-sport-says-1.6601431
Oh and let me guess...
Soccer players don't assault women? What utter bollix. "No. I didn't say that at all. All sports have abuse and unpleasant things. All of them. I was addressing your comments about hockey being so pure a sport. | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
Oh go boil yer cabbage. A lot of rugby players are family men. The difference is, they are inclusive, make no homophonic jokes and support their gay players and staff.
Besides, some of the kinkiest lovers I had were rugby players.
Whereas the toxic homophobia, sexism and racism surrounding an idiotic and boring AF "sport" like soccer makes me wanna vom.
A lot of your comments have gone a long way to proving Joe's original hypothesis.
Liking one thing over another doesn't mean the other is lesser. It's quite an odd way to view two different sports, to me anyway.
No. It reflects soccer nonsense and soccer fans sense of entitlement.
I grew up in a neighborhood with a huge Italian-Canadian continent. They don't STFU about soccer.
Then there's the extended family overseas. They don't STFU about soccer either.
I grew up liking only one team sport: hockey (that's "ice hockey" to you, limey). NHL and Hockey Night in Canada were popular on both sides of the border. Training takes years and the strength, stamina and discipline required to play hockey us awe-inspiring.
Then I watched the famous Ireland v England rugby union Six Nations match in February 2007 at Croke Park. I was agog.
Croke Park was the site of British army shooting up of GAA supporters on Bloody Sunday, 1921.
Ever since then, "foreign" sports weren't allowed. Croke Park has enough seating for 83,500 people.
The regular rugby/soccer stadium in Dublin was under construction so there was no choice but to host England at Croke Park.
Security was extremely tight but nobody bat an eyelash. The England anthem "God Save The Queen" was played and everyone politely clapped. No fuss, no insults.
When the "Amhrán na bhFiann", called "The Soldier's Song" was played, followed by "Ireland's Call", the entire stadium erupted.
The final score? 43-13 to Ireland. And both sides shook hands and history made. The playing was superb - especially from Ronan O'Gara and the legendary Brian O'Driscoll.
And I've been hooked ever since.
I support every rugby team (except England, on historical grounds) but I'd never shout abuse or whistle at the outhalf when he's ready to convert a try.
Whereas every. Single. Soccer Match is a bloody racist/sectarian din. When England were playing Spain in some recent match the BBC interviewed a Scottish fan wearing a Spain tee shirt and telling the interviewer there's no reason he'd ever support England in soccer and would rather see Spain win which made us laugh.
It kind of reminds me of the old USSR vs USA Olympic matches where every single Canadian would loudly sing along to the Russian National Anthem and hoping that Vladislav Tretiak, one of the goalie legends in hockey history, would block all goals by those fatarse yanks. And they never lost.
But no Canadian in history has ever threatened violence to other players before, during or after a hockey match.
And the same for rugby union. When the New Zealand All-Blacks play, regardless of where you're from, everyone cheers when they perform The Haka.
And no one ever EVER screws with the referee.
Can you say the same about soccer?
I think NOT.
Yes, I remember that match. And history between the UK and Ireland is obviously very complicated.
But making sweeping generalisations don't make them true. "Every single football match"/ "no Canadian in history" - you simply have no idea if that is true, so you the hyperbole just looks a bit silly.
I've never heard sectarian chanting at a game I've been at. It's obviously a huge problem in some games (e.g. Rangers v Celtic), but it's not widespread. Racism remains a scourge in many areas of society - including some football fans, though I think we've done a lot to improve that in the UK during my lifetime. But football crowds (and teams) are, generally speaking, much more diverse than rugby. Racism exists. Sectarianism exists. But you tarring every footballer or football fan with the same brush just undermines your point.
And if you really believe Scottish rugby fans would be happily cheering England on, it makes me wonder how many you've met!
I never said Scottish rugby fans cheer England.
No one does.
Again. You guys kinda suck - for historical reasons. Sore losers AND sore winner's though the refs do a pretty good job at clamping down on that nonsense and the game has gotten much cleaner and safer in the past decade.
And speaking of tarring brushes, calling rugby fans people with "inferiority complexes" says more about your ignorance of the game and the culture."You're coming across as slightly unhinged, if I may so. It's really not that deep. If you can't see that making massive, unfounded extrapolations doesn't make an argument, I can't help. I'm a rugby fan. And a football fan. Mind-blowing, right? It's almost as if it wasn't a binary choice. | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
Oh go boil yer cabbage. A lot of rugby players are family men. The difference is, they are inclusive, make no homophonic jokes and support their gay players and staff.
Besides, some of the kinkiest lovers I had were rugby players.
Whereas the toxic homophobia, sexism and racism surrounding an idiotic and boring AF "sport" like soccer makes me wanna vom.
A lot of your comments have gone a long way to proving Joe's original hypothesis.
Liking one thing over another doesn't mean the other is lesser. It's quite an odd way to view two different sports, to me anyway.
No. It reflects soccer nonsense and soccer fans sense of entitlement.
I grew up in a neighborhood with a huge Italian-Canadian continent. They don't STFU about soccer.
Then there's the extended family overseas. They don't STFU about soccer either.
I grew up liking only one team sport: hockey (that's "ice hockey" to you, limey). NHL and Hockey Night in Canada were popular on both sides of the border. Training takes years and the strength, stamina and discipline required to play hockey us awe-inspiring.
Then I watched the famous Ireland v England rugby union Six Nations match in February 2007 at Croke Park. I was agog.
Croke Park was the site of British army shooting up of GAA supporters on Bloody Sunday, 1921.
Ever since then, "foreign" sports weren't allowed. Croke Park has enough seating for 83,500 people.
The regular rugby/soccer stadium in Dublin was under construction so there was no choice but to host England at Croke Park.
Security was extremely tight but nobody bat an eyelash. The England anthem "God Save The Queen" was played and everyone politely clapped. No fuss, no insults.
When the "Amhrán na bhFiann", called "The Soldier's Song" was played, followed by "Ireland's Call", the entire stadium erupted.
The final score? 43-13 to Ireland. And both sides shook hands and history made. The playing was superb - especially from Ronan O'Gara and the legendary Brian O'Driscoll.
And I've been hooked ever since.
I support every rugby team (except England, on historical grounds) but I'd never shout abuse or whistle at the outhalf when he's ready to convert a try.
Whereas every. Single. Soccer Match is a bloody racist/sectarian din. When England were playing Spain in some recent match the BBC interviewed a Scottish fan wearing a Spain tee shirt and telling the interviewer there's no reason he'd ever support England in soccer and would rather see Spain win which made us laugh.
It kind of reminds me of the old USSR vs USA Olympic matches where every single Canadian would loudly sing along to the Russian National Anthem and hoping that Vladislav Tretiak, one of the goalie legends in hockey history, would block all goals by those fatarse yanks. And they never lost.
But no Canadian in history has ever threatened violence to other players before, during or after a hockey match.
And the same for rugby union. When the New Zealand All-Blacks play, regardless of where you're from, everyone cheers when they perform The Haka.
And no one ever EVER screws with the referee.
Can you say the same about soccer?
I think NOT.
Canadian hockey isn't as white as you say it is. Huge sexual assault scandals, accusations of misogyny and racism etc. I'm sure you know about it, if you read the Canadian press.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hockey-culture-systemic-problem-minister-of-sport-says-1.6601431
Oh and let me guess...
Soccer players don't assault women? What utter bollix.
No. I didn't say that at all. All sports have abuse and unpleasant things. All of them. I was addressing your comments about hockey being so pure a sport. "No sport is pure, naturally. Sport is just an analog for warfare. And politics. | |||
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"What about curling? There's a genteel sport that shouldn't incur wrath?" Political. Would be the national sport of an independent Scotland. Rhona Martin would be head of state instead of King Charles III. (Sorry, Scottish friends - this is a joke. Feel like I need to explain what in this thread!) | |||
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"What about curling? There's a genteel sport that shouldn't incur wrath? Political. Would be the national sport of an independent Scotland. Rhona Martin would be head of state instead of King Charles III. (Sorry, Scottish friends - this is a joke. Feel like I need to explain what in this thread!) Well shit. Tiddlywinks?" You haven't heard of the great Tiddlywinks scandal of the late 80s have you... | |||
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"What about curling? There's a genteel sport that shouldn't incur wrath?" LMAO Oh my gods, curling!! There's no sport that bores me more than curling. It's like housework on ice. LOL Of course, cricket and golf and baseball will send me to sleep. And any sport that isn't a winter sport. I'll happily watch ice skating, speed skating, biathlon, bobsleighing and even snowboarding, ski jumping and luge. The only thing I'll watch during the summer Olympics are the opening and closing ceremonies. Best one was Beijing 2008! | |||
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"And, Joe. This thread went exactly as I guess you thought it might. Let's just get back in our box. Rugby, good. Football, bad. We should remember that and not step out of line." I'm sure Joe intended that by writing this post in the first place and denigrating rugby fans. Why else? Well, sometimes I get bored watching David Beckham's ugly mug polluting my ads in between Candy Crush matches so I'll check on here from time to time. | |||
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No, YOLO. I'm a tad younger than your good self
Do your research. Jeez. And you, an educator.
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"And, Joe. This thread went exactly as I guess you thought it might. Let's just get back in our box. Rugby, good. Football, bad. We should remember that and not step out of line. I'm sure Joe intended that by writing this post in the first place and denigrating rugby fans. Why else? Well, sometimes I get bored watching David Beckham's ugly mug polluting my ads in between Candy Crush matches so I'll check on here from time to time." I created this thread and mentioned the inferiority complex as that's the way it came across to me. I don't speak for everyone on Fab but the reason it comes that way across to me is because I see rugby fans on football threads finding any excuse to put the sport down but never see the same of football fans in rugby threads. | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
… might be seeing what you want to see there! "Well it seems that unless the players have a pathological fear at even the slightest possibility of any kind of free-flowing open play, they take every available opportunity to either "scrum/ruck/maul" one another, or hoof the ball 50 yards into the stands. What other reason would there be for even bothering with such unnecessary, inert & tedious set-pieces beyond a love of close contact with another man's thighs or buttocks
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
… might be seeing what you want to see there!
Well it seems that unless the players have a pathological fear at even the slightest possibility of any kind of free-flowing open play, they take every available opportunity to either "scrum/ruck/maul" one another, or hoof the ball 50 yards into the stands.
What other reason would there be for even bothering with such unnecessary, inert & tedious set-pieces beyond a love of close contact with another man's thighs or buttocks
"Scrums", "rucks" & "mauls" should probably be interest categories on here "Well that's an interesting interpretation but to be fair... rugby is more about strategy and stamina than showing your ass off on the pitch. Plus rugby players salaries are way lower than soccer players... so that should go a long way to explaining their devotion to the beautiful sport more than a bunch of teenaged scrotes mincing across a pitch and screaming at the referee because Player X pinched their arm. Bunch of sissy marys. But hey... soccer fans just luuuurve Beckham and Ronaldo. *barf* | |||
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"I got asked to join a rugby team as a winger as I was fast AF and I went on a night out with them before I went to the training. They were all huge and they could drink and drink and I thought I only have to be hit by one of these guys on the pitch and I’m never getting up. So I stuck to football
I'm surprised you can remember that far back"With all these threesomes in my mind now, it’s becoming a blur… | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
… might be seeing what you want to see there!
Well it seems that unless the players have a pathological fear at even the slightest possibility of any kind of free-flowing open play, they take every available opportunity to either "scrum/ruck/maul" one another, or hoof the ball 50 yards into the stands.
What other reason would there be for even bothering with such unnecessary, inert & tedious set-pieces beyond a love of close contact with another man's thighs or buttocks
"Scrums", "rucks" & "mauls" should probably be interest categories on here
Well that's an interesting interpretation but to be fair... rugby is more about strategy and stamina than showing your ass off on the pitch.
Plus rugby players salaries are way lower than soccer players... so that should go a long way to explaining their devotion to the beautiful sport more than a bunch of teenaged scrotes mincing across a pitch and screaming at the referee because Player X pinched their arm.
Bunch of sissy marys. But hey... soccer fans just luuuurve Beckham and Ronaldo. *barf*"Apparently in rugby union, booting the ball off the field at every opportunity is what they call "strategic", whilst practically every other form of football sees it as ineptitude of the highest order
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"What about Gaelic Football? Seems like an acceptable compromise. Plus the players are HOT" To be fair I don't have a problem with Gaelic Football. The fact they have goals and play with a normal shaped ball helps a lot. The GAA football final was briefly screened live here on channel 4 for a couple of years in the 90s. I genuinely thought it looked like it would be quite fun to play. Hurling has the same problem as ice hockey, where it would potentially be a decent watch if it wasn't so hard to see the ball on TV. | |||
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"What about Gaelic Football? Seems like an acceptable compromise. Plus the players are HOT To be fair I don't have a problem with Gaelic Football. The fact they have goals and play with a normal shaped ball helps a lot. The GAA football final was briefly screened live here on channel 4 for a couple of years in the 90s. I genuinely thought it looked like it would be quite fun to play. Hurling has the same problem as ice hockey, where it would potentially be a decent watch if it wasn't so hard to see the ball on TV." OMG this is so true. Since the NHL games have gotten faster and more dangerous every time a sports announcer yells "he shoots, he scores!" I literally cannot see it. There isn't the build up like you have in rugby. | |||
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"So throughout the Euros, I've seen a lot of threads on football with the inevitable comments deriding it and noticed a theme that it's commonly done by rugby fans. As a fan of football, I think it looks like a massive inferiority complex but I'm genuinely curious as to why some rugby fans have such a disdain for football. If you're a fan of both sports, it'll be interesting to hear what you think too." I'm a rugby fan, and don't like football at all, BUT... In all my time of playing Rugby, pretty much every other member of the club has always been a big football fan too. Football is alway on the TV in the club house, and many even play Sunday league or 5 a side. For many Rugby fans, the biggest issue we have is the play acting, diving, and rolling about on the floor pretending their leg is broken. | |||
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"What about Gaelic Football? Seems like an acceptable compromise. Plus the players are HOT To be fair I don't have a problem with Gaelic Football. The fact they have goals and play with a normal shaped ball helps a lot. The GAA football final was briefly screened live here on channel 4 for a couple of years in the 90s. I genuinely thought it looked like it would be quite fun to play. Hurling has the same problem as ice hockey, where it would potentially be a decent watch if it wasn't so hard to see the ball on TV." Hurling final 3.30 today on BBC2. Won't be any diving there | |||
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"What about curling? There's a genteel sport that shouldn't incur wrath? Political. Would be the national sport of an independent Scotland. Rhona Martin would be head of state instead of King Charles III. (Sorry, Scottish friends - this is a joke. Feel like I need to explain what in this thread!)" Rhona? Nah, Eve muirhead! | |||
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"Rugby players spend the whole match pretending to play a sport, which is really just a homoerotic ritual masquerading as one
… might be seeing what you want to see there!
Well it seems that unless the players have a pathological fear at even the slightest possibility of any kind of free-flowing open play, they take every available opportunity to either "scrum/ruck/maul" one another, or hoof the ball 50 yards into the stands.
What other reason would there be for even bothering with such unnecessary, inert & tedious set-pieces beyond a love of close contact with another man's thighs or buttocks
"Scrums", "rucks" & "mauls" should probably be interest categories on here
Well that's an interesting interpretation but to be fair... rugby is more about strategy and stamina than showing your ass off on the pitch.
Plus rugby players salaries are way lower than soccer players... so that should go a long way to explaining their devotion to the beautiful sport more than a bunch of teenaged scrotes mincing across a pitch and screaming at the referee because Player X pinched their arm.
Bunch of sissy marys. But hey... soccer fans just luuuurve Beckham and Ronaldo. *barf*
Apparently in rugby union, booting the ball off the field at every opportunity is what they call "strategic", whilst practically every other form of football sees it as ineptitude of the highest order
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"What about curling? There's a genteel sport that shouldn't incur wrath? Political. Would be the national sport of an independent Scotland. Rhona Martin would be head of state instead of King Charles III. (Sorry, Scottish friends - this is a joke. Feel like I need to explain what in this thread!) Rhona? Nah, Eve muirhead! " Oh yes agree eve is stunning | |||
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