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"Either there’s even more shit drivers now Or some BMW,Mercedes and Golf drivers traded in for a Tesla " I can’t understand why anyone would not drive BMW, VW, Audi? And Mercedes’ for the ladies. Aren’t they just proper cars? | |||
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"You want to go to Bradford , not only real shit driving , but 90% don’t have a licence or insurance " Same as Coventry I hear you loud and clear | |||
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"Either there’s even more shit drivers now Or some BMW,Mercedes and Golf drivers traded in for a Tesla I can’t understand why anyone would not drive BMW, VW, Audi? And Mercedes’ for the ladies. Aren’t they just proper cars? " Cars are great Its drivers who are the issue | |||
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"Forgot to mention , knobhead who have no idea how to drive on a motorway and just sit camped in middle lane " I could comment further on the type of people doing this But best not | |||
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"Aren’t they just proper cars? " Yes, but sadly often without proper indicators. | |||
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"Tesla have been top of that list for a while. Jag owners have been climbing steadily for a while too." I'm not making excuses for te$la drivers, because there is none, but when you live in fear of your car bursting into flames, or it decides to drive on its own, you're bound to be distracted. | |||
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"Either there’s even more shit drivers now Or some BMW,Mercedes and Golf drivers traded in for a Tesla " I’ll have you know I’ve used my BMW’s indicators at least 3 times in 2 years!! | |||
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"Either there’s even more shit drivers now Or some BMW,Mercedes and Golf drivers traded in for a Tesla I’ll have you know I’ve used my BMW’s indicators at least 3 times in 2 years!!" To hang things off? | |||
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"Either there’s even more shit drivers now Or some BMW,Mercedes and Golf drivers traded in for a Tesla I’ll have you know I’ve used my BMW’s indicators at least 3 times in 2 years!! To hang things off?" To confuse other drivers. | |||
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"Either there’s even more shit drivers now Or some BMW,Mercedes and Golf drivers traded in for a Tesla I’ll have you know I’ve used my BMW’s indicators at least 3 times in 2 years!! To hang things off? If I turn the radio down sometimes I hear people cheering for me To confuse other drivers." | |||
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"Either there’s even more shit drivers now Or some BMW,Mercedes and Golf drivers traded in for a Tesla I’ll have you know I’ve used my BMW’s indicators at least 3 times in 2 years!! To hang things off? To confuse other drivers."  | |||
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"It's bad, just how many cars I pass in lane 1 while limited to 56mph in a truck....I shouldn't be passing in lane 1, never mind be able to over take! Totally agree, plus those that pull in directely in front & set off our collision warning system Or the number of idiots who "have to beat the hgv" then spend the next 5 miles no further forward then where the would have been if they just drove sensibly. " | |||
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"It's bad, just how many cars I pass in lane 1 while limited to 56mph in a truck....I shouldn't be passing in lane 1, never mind be able to over take! Totally agree, plus those that pull in directely in front & set off our collision warning system Or the number of idiots who "have to beat the hgv" then spend the next 5 miles no further forward then where the would have been if they just drove sensibly. " That collision warning system in my truck is sensitive as hell! Slams the brakes on when it picks up a parked car a mile away haha. I turn it off. | |||
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"Tesla have been top of that list for a while. Jag owners have been climbing steadily for a while too. I'm not making excuses for te$la drivers, because there is none, but when you live in fear of your car bursting into flames, or it decides to drive on its own, you're bound to be distracted." I bet you think that they take 3 days to charge too, let me guess you also drive 800 miles seven days a week without stopping, whilst towing a 3 tonne trailer. I don’t get the EV hating clowns. I often receive agression/abuse from road users whilst driving my Tesla, in my ICE car absolutely none. It’s weird | |||
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"Tesla have been top of that list for a while. Jag owners have been climbing steadily for a while too. I'm not making excuses for te$la drivers, because there is none, but when you live in fear of your car bursting into flames, or it decides to drive on its own, you're bound to be distracted. I bet you think that they take 3 days to charge too, let me guess you also drive 800 miles seven days a week without stopping, whilst towing a 3 tonne trailer. I don’t get the EV hating clowns. I often receive agression/abuse from road users whilst driving my Tesla, in my ICE car absolutely none. It’s weird " I think the fact you come on here calling people you don’t know clowns then revealing your choice of car quite fabulous | |||
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"There has been a steady 'change' in people's attitudes to road rule compliance and common courtesy for some time, regardless of the car they own. " You've hit the nail smack on the head there - I fully believe that a lack of actual policing on our roads (no cameras do not police - it's just lazy) is causing a rapid reduction in general driving abilities and attention to the road. As long as your dashcam makes you look innocent then f@ck all the other road users. | |||
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"There has been a steady 'change' in people's attitudes to road rule compliance and common courtesy for some time, regardless of the car they own. " The constant "war on motorists" doesn't help either. Drivers now are too distracted having to constantly look out for speed cameras etc and also the road restrictions (such as bus and cycle lanes) make drivers fight for every inch of road space. If we stopped using drivers as cash cows and actually trusted them to drive without excessive interference from Nanny State the quality of motoring would improve. | |||
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"There has been a steady 'change' in people's attitudes to road rule compliance and common courtesy for some time, regardless of the car they own. The constant "war on motorists" doesn't help either. Drivers now are too distracted having to constantly look out for speed cameras etc and also the road restrictions (such as bus and cycle lanes) make drivers fight for every inch of road space. If we stopped using drivers as cash cows and actually trusted them to drive without excessive interference from Nanny State the quality of motoring would improve." I think that if you are constantly worrying about speed cameras it tells you something: you are a shit driver. I drive a lot and would say I am generally one of the quicker drivers on the road but I have never been hit by a speeding ticket or a camera. It is not hard to hit the top of the speed limit and then stay there. As soon as the speed limit changes your speed changes. Up or down. If you are driving to the road then cameras are an irrelevance. They only catch those who can’t actually drive properly and who think that best driver = foot flat to the floor. | |||
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"What about the Lycra clad cyclists who ride 2 or 3 abreast on country roads" Please ….. argh. I have tried therapy to try to forget this trauma on the roads. I need my rubber band now to flick !! | |||
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"I wonder if the standard of driving has fallen so remarkably due to pot hole avoidance? OP NOTE I hate idiots who stick in the middle land in motorways I want to simply blow them up Also I have an Audi Quattro Estate which is a good tool and yes it has indicators and yes they are used at every point necessary to advise other drivers of my intended actions Anyone been in an advanced driving course - come to the front " We don't call them pot holes anymore, they are speed holes lol | |||
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"Being a retired hgv driver i noticed the standard of driving in this country has been declining over the past 20 years Everyone is in to much on a hurry To many driver aids in cars driving for you and to many distractions inside the car Most drivers have forgotten how to drive properly " This all coincides with the mass migration we've experienced over the past 20 years or so. Driving standards abroad are far lower than the UK and some of the driving tests abroad are an absolute joke. Unfortunately these people can be given the keys to a lethal weapon and let loose on the roads over here. I believe that every driver should have a 5 year assessment to see whether you should be behind the wheel ! | |||
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"Either there’s even more shit drivers now Or some BMW,Mercedes and Golf drivers traded in for a Tesla " Tesla … I drove to Scotland yesterday, had a Tesla drive right up behind me in the outside lane, flash lights. So I pulled into the middle lane once I had overtaken, and he floored it … straight into the view of the traffic cop I had spotted on the next bridge. Beautiful! | |||
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"BMW drivers are still next level dickheads. " Thanks! | |||
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"Being a retired hgv driver i noticed the standard of driving in this country has been declining over the past 20 years Everyone is in to much on a hurry To many driver aids in cars driving for you and to many distractions inside the car Most drivers have forgotten how to drive properly This all coincides with the mass migration we've experienced over the past 20 years or so. Driving standards abroad are far lower than the UK and some of the driving tests abroad are an absolute joke. Unfortunately these people can be given the keys to a lethal weapon and let loose on the roads over here. I believe that every driver should have a 5 year assessment to see whether you should be behind the wheel ! " Wow I've never made that link. The next time I see some wanker racing aggressively up my arse or weaving across the lane while they check their phone I'll remind myself to blame the immigrants and their poor driving standards. | |||
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"Tesla have been top of that list for a while. Jag owners have been climbing steadily for a while too. I'm not making excuses for te$la drivers, because there is none, but when you live in fear of your car bursting into flames, or it decides to drive on its own, you're bound to be distracted." Fair points, but when they also know that their car is about as robust as a tin can and will completely crumple in the event of a nudge, you’d think they might drive more carefully? | |||
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"Forgot to mention , knobhead who have no idea how to drive on a motorway and just sit camped in middle lane " Absolutely this, I spend my life on the motorway, middle lane drivers grrr. Also when you get a pair of them one in the middle at 69 and one trying to overtake at 70. It's dangerous. It's fundamental stay left to allow faster vehicles to pass. | |||
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"There has been a steady 'change' in people's attitudes to road rule compliance and common courtesy for some time, regardless of the car they own. The constant "war on motorists" doesn't help either. Drivers now are too distracted having to constantly look out for speed cameras etc and also the road restrictions (such as bus and cycle lanes) make drivers fight for every inch of road space. If we stopped using drivers as cash cows and actually trusted them to drive without excessive interference from Nanny State the quality of motoring would improve."
Pesky speed cameras. Can't think of any way to avoid that distraction 
I think every new driver should be made to walk for half a mile along a narrow country lane prior to taking their driving test. And then cycle for a couple more miles. Maybe more would then appreciate the road is for everyone. | |||
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"Tesla have been top of that list for a while. Jag owners have been climbing steadily for a while too. I'm not making excuses for te$la drivers, because there is none, but when you live in fear of your car bursting into flames, or it decides to drive on its own, you're bound to be distracted. I bet you think that they take 3 days to charge too, let me guess you also drive 800 miles seven days a week without stopping, whilst towing a 3 tonne trailer. I don’t get the EV hating clowns. I often receive agression/abuse from road users whilst driving my Tesla, in my ICE car absolutely none. It’s weird " I drove 450 miles yesterday. Took 5 minutes to fuel the car, including paying and having a slash | |||
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"I think the lack of Police has contributed to a fall in driving standards. In the olden days on a motorway trip you would see Police cars all the time. I tend to agree that some EV drivers have a point to prove because they can have 3000 HP and can go 0-60 in 1.2 secs. I have a BMW330 ( I know I’ll wait for the abuse!) and lots of EV drivers particularly Tesla’s seem to want to prove a point and will tailgate and overtake at the first opportunity usually when it’s not safe." Snap. Exactly what I described above. Tesla behind me was so focused on getting close to me and getting past (440), that he hadn’t noticed the traffic cop on the next bridge and took off hard to show me how fast his car was. | |||
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"I think the lack of Police has contributed to a fall in driving standards. In the olden days on a motorway trip you would see Police cars all the time. I tend to agree that some EV drivers have a point to prove because they can have 3000 HP and can go 0-60 in 1.2 secs. I have a BMW330 ( I know I’ll wait for the abuse!) and lots of EV drivers particularly Tesla’s seem to want to prove a point and will tailgate and overtake at the first opportunity usually when it’s not safe." I see that you are in Louth. I read an article in the Irish times saying the ticketing teams are so overrun with info from the numberplate re of itinerary cameras that they only bother pursuing the worst cases and repeat offenders | |||
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"I think the lack of Police has contributed to a fall in driving standards. In the olden days on a motorway trip you would see Police cars all the time. I tend to agree that some EV drivers have a point to prove because they can have 3000 HP and can go 0-60 in 1.2 secs. I have a BMW330 ( I know I’ll wait for the abuse!) and lots of EV drivers particularly Tesla’s seem to want to prove a point and will tailgate and overtake at the first opportunity usually when it’s not safe. I see that you are in Louth. I read an article in the Irish times saying the ticketing teams are so overrun with info from the numberplate re of itinerary cameras that they only bother pursuing the worst cases and repeat offenders " I’m in the Lincolnshire Louth where the roads are cobbled or dirt! | |||
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"I think the lack of Police has contributed to a fall in driving standards. In the olden days on a motorway trip you would see Police cars all the time. I tend to agree that some EV drivers have a point to prove because they can have 3000 HP and can go 0-60 in 1.2 secs. I have a BMW330 ( I know I’ll wait for the abuse!) and lots of EV drivers particularly Tesla’s seem to want to prove a point and will tailgate and overtake at the first opportunity usually when it’s not safe. I see that you are in Louth. I read an article in the Irish times saying the ticketing teams are so overrun with info from the numberplate re of itinerary cameras that they only bother pursuing the worst cases and repeat offenders I’m in the Lincolnshire Louth where the roads are cobbled or dirt!" Ah! | |||
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"Had someone try to fight me this morning.... So for context, my load was 3.4m wide, total weight just shy of 70 tonne (truck, trailer and load) So when I come to a round about, I'm using both lanes. I'm not doing it to be a prick, or to piss people off. I'm doing it because my load and trailer will kill someone if they try to cut up the side, so I eliminate the risk... But no, Mr taxi driver doesn't like it, goes past when he could, gets in front, slams on and doesn't realise I've just nearly killed him trying to stop the truck then starts shouting and alsorts. Police ended up involved as they luckily come along at the right time. " What a twat! | |||
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"Seems when I'm filtering through traffic on my motorcycle people in toslas deliberately get in the way?? " Its not just them. Its a lot of cars/vans (oddly enough NEVER hgv drivers), they seem to get pissed off if they're crawling along in traffic and I filter past on my 'bike. I've had every kind of abuse and threat thrown at me while filtering (at a safe and sensible speed) and one or two swerve in front of me and brake test me. I've had em block me off, get out of car n start being all big n mouthy - until I put sidestand down and get off the 'bike. Its amazing how quickly they jump back in their cars when they realise the biker they just tried to force off the road is 6ft4in+ (allowing for boots n helmet) and appears to be built like a brick outhouse (that's just the bulky body armour under my riding gear).  | |||
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"OP, what brand of car do you drive? " Ford Fiesta | |||
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"Either there’s even more shit drivers now Or some BMW,Mercedes and Golf drivers traded in for a Tesla I can’t understand why anyone would not drive BMW, VW, Audi? And Mercedes’ for the ladies. Aren’t they just proper cars? Cars are great Its drivers who are the issue " This. It's not what you drive, it's how you drive it. I drive a BMW, and I took the optional indicator pack instead of the 'own the road' pack. | |||
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"Definitely lower now than 10 years ago, but. is it not also a lowering of standards in general, people have fewer manners, who still gives up seat on bus/train for somebody less able to stand, or holds door for the next person entering/leaving shop? Maybe I am old but the lowering of manners and kindness in general is reflected in their driving standards, plus much easier to purchase a more powerful car than perhaps your experience merits. Oops sorry bit of a lengthy moan coming on!" Too True and well said! | |||
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"There has been a steady 'change' in people's attitudes to road rule compliance and common courtesy for some time, regardless of the car they own. The constant "war on motorists" doesn't help either. Drivers now are too distracted having to constantly look out for speed cameras etc and also the road restrictions (such as bus and cycle lanes) make drivers fight for every inch of road space. If we stopped using drivers as cash cows and actually trusted them to drive without excessive interference from Nanny State the quality of motoring would improve." If you can’t watch out for other road users and bus/cycle lanes AND use your indicators then you really have no place driving a car. | |||
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