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"Regardless if he is actually missing the Facebook page to help find him is comedy gold from Sharon with her Labrador to the guy in his power chair lol " I'm sure his family find those comments hilarious God knows what they are going through, it must be hell  | |||
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"After Dr Michael Mosley going missing, whilst walking in Greece, the odds are against him, in such heat and terrain. It's desperately sad and terrifying for family and friends " Pretty much the logical outcome at this stage unfortunately | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains." Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. | |||
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"So a revered TV personality goes missing and the world loses its mind with concern. A teenager goes missing in potentially similar circumstances and it’s widely ridiculed. "A male teen, I wonder if there would be as much ridiculing had a girl gone missing
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. " We're they though? A few posts on Faceachebook and people take it as gospel. | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. We're they though? A few posts on Faceachebook and people take it as gospel." Facetwittbookagramtoktik. The last bastion of honesty and truth innit. | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. We're they though? A few posts on Faceachebook and people take it as gospel. Facetwittbookagramtoktik. The last bastion of honesty and truth innit. " Apparently so, the Police should step aside I reckon, nothing gets past the Faceachetikkytok users  | |||
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"I think there are two morals to this story ‘don’t get high on your boss’s supply’ and ‘however big and hard you think you are, there’s always someone bigger and harder’." Can you explain please? You seem to have far more facts on the case than I do | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. We're they though? A few posts on Faceachebook and people take it as gospel." It was reported in multiple news papers online and from the court sentencing each of the 8 boys | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. We're they though? A few posts on Faceachebook and people take it as gospel. It was reported in multiple news papers online and from the court sentencing each of the 8 boys " And what does that have to do with the case now? | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. We're they though? A few posts on Faceachebook and people take it as gospel. It was reported in multiple news papers online and from the court sentencing each of the 8 boys And what does that have to do with the case now? " One Facebook theory was revenge and others were saying karma for past behaviour Not mine just answering your question | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. We're they though? A few posts on Faceachebook and people take it as gospel. It was reported in multiple news papers online and from the court sentencing each of the 8 boys And what does that have to do with the case now? One Facebook theory was revenge and others were saying karma for past behaviour Not mine just answering your question " But how have they come to that conclusion? It's all hearsay | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. We're they though? A few posts on Faceachebook and people take it as gospel." I’ve seen the newspaper articles on it. Wouldn’t have mentioned it otherwise. K | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. We're they though? A few posts on Faceachebook and people take it as gospel. It was reported in multiple news papers online and from the court sentencing each of the 8 boys And what does that have to do with the case now? One Facebook theory was revenge and others were saying karma for past behaviour Not mine just answering your question But how have they come to that conclusion? It's all hearsay" It’s always hearsay and gossip on fb wannabe detectives looking for attention | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. We're they though? A few posts on Faceachebook and people take it as gospel. I’ve seen the newspaper articles on it. Wouldn’t have mentioned it otherwise. K" The person I responded too never mentioned what they referring too as there are a lot of conspiracy theories and hearsay flying around | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. We're they though? A few posts on Faceachebook and people take it as gospel. It was reported in multiple news papers online and from the court sentencing each of the 8 boys And what does that have to do with the case now? " I only replied to your comment to point out that it was not Facebook news. But evidenced from court / newspapers. I just read up on the jay slater machete after seeing people mention it above to see if it was genuine or false news. Outside of that I have no interest in what has happened as it doesn’t concern me . | |||
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"So a revered TV personality goes missing and the world loses its mind with concern. A teenager goes missing in potentially similar circumstances and it’s widely ridiculed.
A male teen, I wonder if there would be as much ridiculing had a girl gone missing
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. Just been reading all this. They were part of a feral gang. We're they though? A few posts on Faceachebook and people take it as gospel. It was reported in multiple news papers online and from the court sentencing each of the 8 boys And what does that have to do with the case now? One Facebook theory was revenge and others were saying karma for past behaviour Not mine just answering your question But how have they come to that conclusion? It's all hearsay" It’s not even hearsay, it’s guesswork. It’s the equivalent of someone talking bollocks down the pub, speculating and guessing what’s “really” going on. | |||
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"He has either: 1. Had an accident - due to heat, terrain or vehicle 2. Done something dodgy, either whilst on the island or previously, and its consequences have caught up with him 3. Been attacked by a stranger 4. Done a runner If he didn’t have a back story then either 1 or 3 would be the highest probabilities and 2 and 4 would be very unlikely. Given he does have a back story - who knows? " Personally I’d rather just wist for the facts. | |||
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"Story ... he owes 30k !!" Really? I see. And who does he owe 30k to? Where did you get that info? And what does it have to do with his disappearance? | |||
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"Story ... he owes 30k !! Really? I see. And who does he owe 30k to? Where did you get that info? And what does it have to do with his disappearance? " Allegedly; People controlling drugs on the island Social media Crossing the wrong people has consequences I’m sure the truth will all come out at some point. | |||
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"Story ... he owes 30k !! Really? I see. And who does he owe 30k to? Where did you get that info? And what does it have to do with his disappearance? Allegedly; People controlling drugs on the island Social media Crossing the wrong people has consequences I’m sure the truth will all come out at some point." Stuff on social media can easily be faked. People will say and do anything for attention....Anyone speaking out or those who have been named will disappear too surely? 30k? I doubt even the Mafia would make people disappear over 30k. Not worth their time getting out of bed for.....If that were true The lads workplace made a statement saying the rumours are false, no way would he be caught up in stuff like that. His family have said it's false. Tbf I know who I would rather believe and god forbid I hope he's found one way or another for the poor familys sake. | |||
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"Story ... he owes 30k !! Really? I see. And who does he owe 30k to? Where did you get that info? And what does it have to do with his disappearance? Allegedly; People controlling drugs on the island Social media Crossing the wrong people has consequences I’m sure the truth will all come out at some point. Stuff on social media can easily be faked. People will say and do anything for attention....Anyone speaking out or those who have been named will disappear too surely? 30k? I doubt even the Mafia would make people disappear over 30k. Not worth their time getting out of bed for.....If that were true The lads workplace made a statement saying the rumours are false, no way would he be caught up in stuff like that. His family have said it's false. Tbf I know who I would rather believe and god forbid I hope he's found one way or another for the poor familys sake. " Exactly hence the allegedly (Not my thoughts on it) and only time will tell. To many TikTok experts for me ! | |||
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"Story ... he owes 30k !! Really? I see. And who does he owe 30k to? Where did you get that info? And what does it have to do with his disappearance? Allegedly; People controlling drugs on the island Social media Crossing the wrong people has consequences I’m sure the truth will all come out at some point." The truth may come out at some point. In the meantime, speculation is fairly pointless, and damaging | |||
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"So a revered TV personality goes missing and the world loses its mind with concern. A teenager goes missing in potentially similar circumstances and it’s widely ridiculed.
A male teen, I wonder if there would be as much ridiculing had a girl gone missing
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains." I heard the victims friends spotted him and lured him back | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. I heard the victims friends spotted him and lured him back " Where did you hear that? A reliable verified source? | |||
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"The machete attacker Jay Slater and the missing Jay Slater look nothing alike. Their pictures are both online in different places. C" Not calling you out, just asking the question! Is that true or have you misread? Spanish police are examining his background as a legitimate line of enquiry, or have I misread? Either way, hope the kid is found safe, every parents nightmare! | |||
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"The machete attacker Jay Slater and the missing Jay Slater look nothing alike. Their pictures are both online in different places. C Not calling you out, just asking the question! Is that true or have you misread? Spanish police are examining his background as a legitimate line of enquiry, or have I misread? Either way, hope the kid is found safe, every parents nightmare!" They look very similar. Identical in fact. . The same photo has appeared in news articles reporting on the attack and the missing person story. I think there is little doubt | |||
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"What I KNOW: The media have been reporting over the past week that a young man went to Tenerife and has not been seen since. and THAT is as much as anyone KNOWS except Jay Slater and the space aliens that probed his belly button. I think about him each day and look for news. I hope he is found alive. I wish his family good support through these heart aching times. " Me too Granny. This type of shit and misinformation is why I quit FB years ago. His poor parents, etc. | |||
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"What I KNOW: The media have been reporting over the past week that a young man went to Tenerife and has not been seen since. and THAT is as much as anyone KNOWS except Jay Slater and the space aliens that probed his belly button. I think about him each day and look for news. I hope he is found alive. I wish his family good support through these heart aching times. Me too Granny. This type of shit and misinformation is why I quit FB years ago. His poor parents, etc. " Glad I'm not on Facebook. Speculation does no one any good | |||
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"What I KNOW: The media have been reporting over the past week that a young man went to Tenerife and has not been seen since. and THAT is as much as anyone KNOWS except Jay Slater and the space aliens that probed his belly button. I think about him each day and look for news. I hope he is found alive. I wish his family good support through these heart aching times. Me too Granny. This type of shit and misinformation is why I quit FB years ago. His poor parents, etc. Glad I'm not on Facebook. Speculation does no one any good" x | |||
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"I feel for his family and friends Imagine your son or nephew or cousin, just goes on holiday and disappears You would be beside yourself Whatever the back story, I just hope that his family is provided with some resolution " | |||
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"Kid was done recently for a machete attack. Pretty confident there’s a bit more to the story than going for a walk in the mountains. I heard the victims friends spotted him and lured him back Where did you hear that? A reliable verified source? " Yep , it was on tinterweb-tock. One of them recognised him in the club as the hatchet man so chatted at him up & lured him back & dumped him in the mountains | |||
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"The machete attacker Jay Slater and the missing Jay Slater look nothing alike. Their pictures are both online in different places. C Not calling you out, just asking the question! Is that true or have you misread? Spanish police are examining his background as a legitimate line of enquiry, or have I misread? Either way, hope the kid is found safe, every parents nightmare!" For sure I see why people are annoyed but his is the machete kid. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/eight-thugs-who-split-boys-33066928 Now Look at the missing kid and look at the eyebrows and nose. C | |||
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"The machete attacker Jay Slater and the missing Jay Slater look nothing alike. Their pictures are both online in different places. C Not calling you out, just asking the question! Is that true or have you misread? Spanish police are examining his background as a legitimate line of enquiry, or have I misread? Either way, hope the kid is found safe, every parents nightmare! For sure I see why people are annoyed but his is the machete kid. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/eight-thugs-who-split-boys-33066928 Now Look at the missing kid and look at the eyebrows and nose. C " https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jay-slater-missing-tenerife-machete-victim-b2568376.html Attack victim seems to confirm they are one and the same | |||
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"Maybe now all the idiots and their ridiculous conspiracy theories will leave his family grieve in peace.. " There's been a lot of needless shit flying around social media, hopefully this puts an end to it all. | |||
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"How do we know he didn't get pushed down the ravine ?" I’m assuming he was either pushed or thrown for stealing a Rolex off a drug cartel in Tenerife.. | |||
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"Todays Discovery Not confirmed but Could Be Him thanks everyone for Joining in my Post Rip Jay slater ( one post on X the comment was “did he have the Rolex ,bad taste ) " That’s not really bad taste, more curiosity. | |||
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"Begs the question why he wasn't found in the previous search, maybe that will come to light " The terrain is horrendous it’s a wonder his body was found at all. He must have been out of it - setting off on a walk back that was going to take 10 hours - mountain terrain with switchback road | |||
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"Begs the question why he wasn't found in the previous search, maybe that will come to light " Have you ever been to Masca and the area around it? The ravine he was found in was completely inaccessible on foot and the remains extricated via helicopter. That's how inaccessible it is. | |||
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"Begs the question why he wasn't found in the previous search, maybe that will come to light " Some of the ravines are several hundred metres deep, the police took decades to find the bodies of the victims of those two pieces of shit on the moors near Manchester and that's pretty accessible in comparison.. | |||
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"Begs the question why he wasn't found in the previous search, maybe that will come to light " Seems the search wasn't called off after all, just a means of deflection public interest | |||
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"Hope it stops some of the silly conspiracy theories and crying about the go fund me " Sadly, it is just perpetuating conspiracy theories. People making accusations about someone pushing him down the ravine, etc. | |||
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"I'm curious why the convicted drug dealer and the unidentified man only booked the remote Airbnb for one night. Where did they stay other nights ? And why book it then drive 40 minutes for a night out ?" I know and the old lady with the donkey and the stray dog that wasn't a stray seems to have just come to light as well | |||
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"I'm curious why the convicted drug dealer and the unidentified man only booked the remote Airbnb for one night. Where did they stay other nights ? And why book it then drive 40 minutes for a night out ?" There's not a lot to do in Masca. Or the nearest small town, Santiago. | |||
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"How do we know he didn't get pushed down the ravine ? I’m assuming he was either pushed or thrown for stealing a Rolex off a drug cartel in Tenerife.." Ive been told today that Rolex is a code name for heroin or , | |||
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"How do we know he didn't get pushed down the ravine ?" … and so it continues … | |||
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"Begs the question why he wasn't found in the previous search, maybe that will come to light " Take a look at the terrain. | |||
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"Hope it stops some of the silly conspiracy theories and crying about the go fund me " Conspiracy theorists just keep rolling. They’ll find something to make stiff up about. | |||
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"I'm curious why the convicted drug dealer and the unidentified man only booked the remote Airbnb for one night. Where did they stay other nights ? And why book it then drive 40 minutes for a night out ?" What difference does it make? Why waste energy being “curious” about it? Will it fix anything? | |||
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"Locals say as soon as there is a dead goat in that area all the crows swoop down on it. They said a week ago they doubted his body was there as they had seen no crows. " They could see the bottom of the ravine, could they? | |||
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"Chap fell off a cliff , most likely intoxicated and is dead as a result The end . Media need to just move on from it now . Let the family handle their business in private " Absolutely | |||
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"Chap fell off a cliff , most likely intoxicated and is dead as a result The end . Media need to just move on from it now . Let the family handle their business in private " Agreed. | |||
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"How do we know he didn't get pushed down the ravine ? I’m assuming he was either pushed or thrown for stealing a Rolex off a drug cartel in Tenerife.." You can make whatever assumptions you like … based on the snippets of information you picked up in press reports. Doesn’t make your assumptions right though. | |||
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"4.6k people donated to the Gofundme. Do you think they have any right to be kept informed of the current situation ?" Formal identification of the body not happening fast enough for your liking? Have a bit of respect for his family. | |||
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"4.6k people donated to the Gofundme. Do you think they have any right to be kept informed of the current situation ?" No they donated to help find the body / person that is all. The means / reasons / why are irrelevant People donate as gift / kindness not expecting anything back They only need to know the man is dead and found nothing more is their business | |||
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"Could they not see crows from the sky swooping down into the ravine ?" You’re clearly itching to share an alternative version of events. | |||
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"4.6k people donated to the Gofundme. Do you think they have any right to be kept informed of the current situation ? No they donated to help find the body / person that is all. The means / reasons / why are irrelevant People donate as gift / kindness not expecting anything back They only need to know the man is dead and found nothing more is their business " Agreed. | |||
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"Could they not see crows from the sky swooping down into the ravine ? You’re clearly itching to share an alternative version of events. " I'm not arguing with you, just commenting that crows fly in the sky. They don't live at the bottom of ravines. | |||
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"Could they not see crows from the sky swooping down into the ravine ? You’re clearly itching to share an alternative version of events. I'm not arguing with you, just commenting that crows fly in the sky. They don't live at the bottom of ravines. " Yes I am familiar with crows, and the fact that they fly. You asked why the locals hadn’t spotted them swooping, and I humbly suggest that if the body was out of sight at the bottom of a ravine, then they might not have seen crows swooping. Perhaps you should go and take a look at the terrain if you are so curious and suspicious. | |||
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"police took decades to find the bodies of the victims of those two pieces of shit on the moors near Manchester and that's pretty accessible in comparison.." I think there are still some they haven’t found. But then again, they are buried in moorland, not laid out on a rock. Sounds like island plod need to buy some drones. | |||
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"police took decades to find the bodies of the victims of those two pieces of shit on the moors near Manchester and that's pretty accessible in comparison.. I think there are still some they haven’t found. But then again, they are buried in moorland, not laid out on a rock. Sounds like island plod need to buy some drones. " Again, maybe take a look at the terrain, and the size of the area. All experts said that it was an extremely difficult area to search | |||
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"It is a coincidence that at the time of his disappearance the yacht Maruba passed the jetty at the bottom of the cliff he was on, did an unusual manoevre and then disappeared from radar for nine days before appearing at a different part off Tenerife. " a) What is the significance of this particular boat? b) There is no jetty at the bottom of the cliff he was found at. The nearest port or otherwise is a long way from Masca and only accessible by winding mountain roads full of switchbacks and barely wide enough for one vehicle. There is a deep gorge from Masca down to the sea, called Barranca de Masca and it's fucking huge, steep, inaccessible in the extreme, hence the difficulty of searching and the only method of extracting the body being via helicopter. He fell down into the gorge. How and why, no-one knows, but his body was found in the same general area his phone last pinged to, showing he did not move far, before somehow meeting his end. It would be very easy to fall and die in that part of Tenerife. It's not Los Cristianos and Veronica's strip. | |||
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"Yeah I get that, I just don’t think the comparison is valid between deliberately concealed bodies and (presumably) someone who fell owing to misadventure. I guess we don’t know enough details. The report I saw said he was “very close” to his last phone ping. " … in an extremely difficult place to access. What’s your concern here? That the searches failed to find the void sooner in a difficult environment? | |||
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"4.6k people donated to the Gofundme. Do you think they have any right to be kept informed of the current situation ? Formal identification of the body not happening fast enough for your liking? Have a bit of respect for his family. " It's likely needing to be identification via DNA due to the length of time he's likely been dead in hot temperature, outdoors. Dental records might not be available in the day and age where many young people have never or rarely seen a dentist and are less reliable in young people anyway. | |||
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"What’s your concern here? That the searches failed to find the void sooner in a difficult environment? " Yeah, kind of. If he really was very close to his last known location you’d think they’d have looked to see if he’d fallen. Given that it was dark and he was d*unk. But then everyone seemed to get distracted by conspiracy theories. | |||
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"It is a coincidence that at the time of his disappearance the yacht Maruba passed the jetty at the bottom of the cliff he was on, did an unusual manoevre and then disappeared from radar for nine days before appearing at a different part off Tenerife. a) What is the significance of this particular boat? b) There is no jetty at the bottom of the cliff he was found at. The nearest port or otherwise is a long way from Masca and only accessible by winding mountain roads full of switchbacks and barely wide enough for one vehicle. There is a deep gorge from Masca down to the sea, called Barranca de Masca and it's fucking huge, steep, inaccessible in the extreme, hence the difficulty of searching and the only method of extracting the body being via helicopter. He fell down into the gorge. How and why, no-one knows, but his body was found in the same general area his phone last pinged to, showing he did not move far, before somehow meeting his end. It would be very easy to fall and die in that part of Tenerife. It's not Los Cristianos and Veronica's strip. " Thanks for all the detail on the local terrain. But there are posters who will just keep posting they find some of the story “strange” or “curious”, or point to loose ends (of which there will be hundreds), and suggest that “something is going on” or “we are not being given the full facts”. We may never know what actually happened, and that’s ok. | |||
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"Fifty, even twenty years ago this would have been accepted as a horrible accident and the family would have been allowed privacy with no obvious speculation. Dave down the pub would have had theories but most people would roll their eyes and get on with their drink. Now everyone's a detective " True! And somehow, the detectives feel that they are entitled to every last detail of what happened, despite having no skin in the game | |||
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"It is a coincidence that at the time of his disappearance the yacht Maruba passed the jetty at the bottom of the cliff he was on, did an unusual manoevre and then disappeared from radar for nine days before appearing at a different part off Tenerife. a) What is the significance of this particular boat? b) There is no jetty at the bottom of the cliff he was found at. The nearest port or otherwise is a long way from Masca and only accessible by winding mountain roads full of switchbacks and barely wide enough for one vehicle. There is a deep gorge from Masca down to the sea, called Barranca de Masca and it's fucking huge, steep, inaccessible in the extreme, hence the difficulty of searching and the only method of extracting the body being via helicopter. He fell down into the gorge. How and why, no-one knows, but his body was found in the same general area his phone last pinged to, showing he did not move far, before somehow meeting his end. It would be very easy to fall and die in that part of Tenerife. It's not Los Cristianos and Veronica's strip. Thanks for all the detail on the local terrain. But there are posters who will just keep posting they find some of the story “strange” or “curious”, or point to loose ends (of which there will be hundreds), and suggest that “something is going on” or “we are not being given the full facts”. We may never know what actually happened, and that’s ok. " We indeed may never know. We've spent a lot of time exploring Tenerife, and we enjoy going to the non touristy places and I have driven the Masca road many times, stopping at the viewpoints that overlook the gorges and mountains to take in the view, have a picnic etc. Even as an able bodied person, I wouldn't have dreamt of walking into the gorges because they're just too dangerous. | |||
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"No smoke without fire" Do you say that about every accidental death? | |||
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"No smoke without fire Do you say that about every accidental death? " No i don't its regarding all the rumours that's being bounded about | |||
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"A young boy goes on holiday to a rave where let's face it theirs probably alcohol and d.. gs. He makes a stupid error of judgement (which the majority of us did at his age) but sadly for him it ended in his death. Sadly he isn't the first and definitely won't be the last not everything has to be a big conspiracy accidents like this happen all the time. I think some people just need to stay of social media and connect to the real world. " | |||
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"No smoke without fire Do you say that about every accidental death? No i don't its regarding all the rumours that's being bounded about " Rumours abound about everything and always have. *Twitching curtains* "Ooooooooo Maud, is that Ethel over there getting it away from home? She's out at 8pm again with her stocking tops on display." Ethel has spent another evening cleaning up after her pet dog that pees all over her good wool carpet and she's been on hands and knees, scrubbing it. She's just been out to the bins AGAIN to throw out the wet newspapers. Hence the stockings all akimbo. But now, everyone in the Mother's Union thinks Ethel has been on her hands and knees with Mr. Somebody Who Isn't Her Husband, because Mr. Ethel works away during the week. Etc. | |||
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"No smoke without fire" What do you mean? Why not say what you mean instead of being cryptic? | |||
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"No smoke without fire Do you say that about every accidental death? No i don't its regarding all the rumours that's being bounded about " Rumours. Exactly that. And I haven’t seen any of those rumours in the reliable sources where I inform myself from. Many, many people need to get off social media, connect to reality and find some decency. | |||
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"No smoke without fire Do you say that about every accidental death? No i don't its regarding all the rumours that's being bounded about " Rumours, you say … | |||
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"No smoke without fire Do you say that about every accidental death? No i don't its regarding all the rumours that's being bounded about Rumours, you say … " A good album..
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"Fifty, even twenty years ago this would have been accepted as a horrible accident and the family would have been allowed privacy with no obvious speculation. Dave down the pub would have had theories but most people would roll their eyes and get on with their drink. Now everyone's a detective " Police said that they intentionally appeared to be stopping the search due to "amateur detective's" hampering the investigation. I think it's time authorities started clamping down on these fuckwits and the conspiracy theorists who spread harmful nonsense. | |||
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"Fifty, even twenty years ago this would have been accepted as a horrible accident and the family would have been allowed privacy with no obvious speculation. Dave down the pub would have had theories but most people would roll their eyes and get on with their drink. Now everyone's a detective Police said that they intentionally appeared to be stopping the search due to "amateur detective's" hampering the investigation. I think it's time authorities started clamping down on these fuckwits and the conspiracy theorists who spread harmful nonsense." I completely agree. And it should start from the social networks: their lack of rules, transparency and accountability is disgusting. | |||
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"Fifty, even twenty years ago this would have been accepted as a horrible accident and the family would have been allowed privacy with no obvious speculation. Dave down the pub would have had theories but most people would roll their eyes and get on with their drink. Now everyone's a detective Police said that they intentionally appeared to be stopping the search due to "amateur detective's" hampering the investigation. I think it's time authorities started clamping down on these fuckwits and the conspiracy theorists who spread harmful nonsense." Happened up here with Nicola Bulley, wannabe miss Marples and Poirot's desperate for their two minutes of internet fame with claims they'll solve it in a day and only serving to get in the way and tie up resources having to stop them entering property because they 'knew'.. | |||
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" Happened up here with Nicola Bulley, wannabe miss Marples and Poirot's desperate for their two minutes of internet fame with claims they'll solve it in a day and only serving to get in the way and tie up resources having to stop them entering property because they 'knew'.. " Wasn't Nicola Bulley's body found by a "spiritual medium" rather than the Police ? | |||
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" Happened up here with Nicola Bulley, wannabe miss Marples and Poirot's desperate for their two minutes of internet fame with claims they'll solve it in a day and only serving to get in the way and tie up resources having to stop them entering property because they 'knew'.. Wasn't Nicola Bulley's body found by a "spiritual medium" rather than the Police ?" There were claims but it was a couple out walking who saw her body in a large clump of reeds about a mile downstream.. | |||
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"Now body has been found should the go fund me money be returned?" Family have donated some already to the volunteer rescue teams etc I believe.. | |||
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" Happened up here with Nicola Bulley, wannabe miss Marples and Poirot's desperate for their two minutes of internet fame with claims they'll solve it in a day and only serving to get in the way and tie up resources having to stop them entering property because they 'knew'.. Wasn't Nicola Bulley's body found by a "spiritual medium" rather than the Police ?" No | |||
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" Wasn't Nicola Bulley's body found by a "spiritual medium" rather than the Police ?" No that’s not possible as there is no such thing as a “spiritual medium” | |||
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"There is a tiny beach at the bottom of the barranco which is serviced by ‘ferries’ that run back to Los Gigantes harbour. The ‘masca walk’ is a common tourist trip and you wouldn’t have to spend too long around any of the resorts before you were offered this as an excursion. I’ve done the walk myself. Got the bus up to masca and walked down the gorge. It’s not remotely physically taxing for anyone who is active. Takes about 2-3 hours if you’re steady. Pick up boat is pretty regular. It’s a small patch of beach with (at the time I did it a few years ago) a wooden structure that you can jump from onto the front of a boat that noses up to it. The walk was suspended for a few years because the canaries government decided it was unsafe and there were internet reports that at one point it had been made unsafe by a storm. I go to Tenerife every year but have not done the walk for about 4 years. I will report back after my visit next February. If, and I mean if, there had been a plan to walk somebody down the gorge either under duress or as a method of escape and pick them up with a small boat I think this would be entirely possible and pretty easy. That is to be regarded as a neutral statement, I know now that the body has been found everyone is jumping on the back of the so-called conspiracy theorists. Some of the evidence from the internet sleuths has been pretty compelling. The relationship between Lucy and jay is extremely suspect with only a very recent record of them having known one another. Lucy lives a social media extravagant lifestyle with no obvious source of income. The drug convictions of the men that returned to London. The say no evil message. The Rolex. Discrepancies over the timings in the phone logs. All in all it seems incomprehensible that the local police have not (publicly at least) taken this into consideration. I would have thought that it was the duty of the police to exclude any sort of criminal action before suggesting that nothing more than an accident has occurred " Perhaps the have but don't want to go public with denying all the stories that were and are doing the rounds.. I tend to think if they did go public on such stuff, some of which will just be rumours then they're setting themselves up for even more internet sleuths saying whatever.. | |||
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"Now body has been found should the go fund me money be returned?" Yes I imagine that will be their top priority right now having found their son is dead less than 24 hours ago. | |||
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" Wasn't Nicola Bulley's body found by a "spiritual medium" rather than the Police ? No that’s not possible as there is no such thing as a “spiritual medium”" Between a spiritual small and a spiritual large maybe? | |||
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"Yes I imagine that will be their top priority right now having found their son is dead less than 24 hours ago. " Need to get him home first. | |||
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"Now body has been found should the go fund me money be returned? That’s your top concern? " For this post..yes,for life..no | |||
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"Now body has been found should the go fund me money be returned? That’s your top concern? For this post..yes,for life..no" I see. Well, right now my thoughts are with the lad’s family and friends. | |||
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"There is a tiny beach at the bottom of the barranco which is serviced by ‘ferries’ that run back to Los Gigantes harbour. The ‘masca walk’ is a common tourist trip and you wouldn’t have to spend too long around any of the resorts before you were offered this as an excursion. I’ve done the walk myself. Got the bus up to masca and walked down the gorge. It’s not remotely physically taxing for anyone who is active. Takes about 2-3 hours if you’re steady. Pick up boat is pretty regular. It’s a small patch of beach with (at the time I did it a few years ago) a wooden structure that you can jump from onto the front of a boat that noses up to it. The walk was suspended for a few years because the canaries government decided it was unsafe and there were internet reports that at one point it had been made unsafe by a storm. I go to Tenerife every year but have not done the walk for about 4 years. I will report back after my visit next February. If, and I mean if, there had been a plan to walk somebody down the gorge either under duress or as a method of escape and pick them up with a small boat I think this would be entirely possible and pretty easy. That is to be regarded as a neutral statement, I know now that the body has been found everyone is jumping on the back of the so-called conspiracy theorists. Some of the evidence from the internet sleuths has been pretty compelling. The relationship between Lucy and jay is extremely suspect with only a very recent record of them having known one another. Lucy lives a social media extravagant lifestyle with no obvious source of income. The drug convictions of the men that returned to London. The say no evil message. The Rolex. Discrepancies over the timings in the phone logs. All in all it seems incomprehensible that the local police have not (publicly at least) taken this into consideration. I would have thought that it was the duty of the police to exclude any sort of criminal action before suggesting that nothing more than an accident has occurred " Okay, so the Masca Express from Los Gigantes (where we stay) is a tiny little catamaran type boat, the beach cannot be accessed by anything bigger (no yachts). The walk down the gorge apparently takes over 2hrs in agreeable weather and 3-4hrs up, if one attempts it. That's for people fit, able and willing, with water etc. I can't imagine it's in any way easy or do-able to remove someone unwilling or unconscióus up or down it without serious issues or it being impossible. And what of this yacht? What is the alleged significance? Why was the guy seen alive, alone, asking about buses to Las Américas or Los Cristianos and then found dead in much the same geographic area? It makes no sense that someone suddenly tried to take him (unwillingly) down a very dangerous and steep gorge, or what? Took him down to the beach spit, somehow boarded a boat far bigger than that able to stop at Masca "beach", unalive him, then drag a dead person back up a trip that takes 4hrs in good conditions, without a dead weight, and magically deposit him pretty close to where he made a phonecall that he made alone? I know what sounds more plausible. Misadventure. | |||
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"Now body has been found should the go fund me money be returned?" People probably don't donate on the basis that if not found alive they want a refund | |||
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"Now body has been found should the go fund me money be returned? That’s your top concern? For this post..yes,for life..no" It costs thousands to repatriate a body from abroad. Hopefully those who donated did so from concern and generosity of spirit rather than a money back guarantee if not satisfied. | |||
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"The local police HAVE questioned the people allegedly at this AirBnB and local residents and the owners of the accommodation and other people party to the trip to Tenerife. Obviously they are not going to publish the contents of private investigations but they appear sufficiently satisfied to say this was misadventure. I'm sure if there was evidence of anything nefarious, the Guardia Civil would be looking into it." And perhaps the Spanish police are more discreet than the British police where we are used to having all details revealed within minutes of statements being given.? In the public interest. | |||
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"There is a tiny beach at the bottom of the barranco which is serviced by ‘ferries’ that run back to Los Gigantes harbour. The ‘masca walk’ is a common tourist trip and you wouldn’t have to spend too long around any of the resorts before you were offered this as an excursion. I’ve done the walk myself. Got the bus up to masca and walked down the gorge. It’s not remotely physically taxing for anyone who is active. Takes about 2-3 hours if you’re steady. Pick up boat is pretty regular. It’s a small patch of beach with (at the time I did it a few years ago) a wooden structure that you can jump from onto the front of a boat that noses up to it. The walk was suspended for a few years because the canaries government decided it was unsafe and there were internet reports that at one point it had been made unsafe by a storm. I go to Tenerife every year but have not done the walk for about 4 years. I will report back after my visit next February. If, and I mean if, there had been a plan to walk somebody down the gorge either under duress or as a method of escape and pick them up with a small boat I think this would be entirely possible and pretty easy. That is to be regarded as a neutral statement, I know now that the body has been found everyone is jumping on the back of the so-called conspiracy theorists. Some of the evidence from the internet sleuths has been pretty compelling. The relationship between Lucy and jay is extremely suspect with only a very recent record of them having known one another. Lucy lives a social media extravagant lifestyle with no obvious source of income. The drug convictions of the men that returned to London. The say no evil message. The Rolex. Discrepancies over the timings in the phone logs. All in all it seems incomprehensible that the local police have not (publicly at least) taken this into consideration. I would have thought that it was the duty of the police to exclude any sort of criminal action before suggesting that nothing more than an accident has occurred Okay, so the Masca Express from Los Gigantes (where we stay) is a tiny little catamaran type boat, the beach cannot be accessed by anything bigger (no yachts). The walk down the gorge apparently takes over 2hrs in agreeable weather and 3-4hrs up, if one attempts it. That's for people fit, able and willing, with water etc. I can't imagine it's in any way easy or do-able to remove someone unwilling or unconscióus up or down it without serious issues or it being impossible. And what of this yacht? What is the alleged significance? Why was the guy seen alive, alone, asking about buses to Las Américas or Los Cristianos and then found dead in much the same geographic area? It makes no sense that someone suddenly tried to take him (unwillingly) down a very dangerous and steep gorge, or what? Took him down to the beach spit, somehow boarded a boat far bigger than that able to stop at Masca "beach", unalive him, then drag a dead person back up a trip that takes 4hrs in good conditions, without a dead weight, and magically deposit him pretty close to where he made a phonecall that he made alone? I know what sounds more plausible. Misadventure. " My post is for information only and on the basis of a journey I have made myself. If, and this post is in no way to make any allegations, you wanted to walk down there, and swim out to a boat a few hundred feet off the beach it’s very easy. If you wanted to ‘unalive’ someone on the beach you only need a 10 euro inflatable dinghy to get them out to same boat. So an original plan to fake a disappearance or dispose of a body at sea is not beyond the realms of possibility. Something quite easily could have happened before that plan was executed. Accident or otherwise. Speculation because as far as I’m aware the exact location the body was found hasn’t been released. It might not be anywhere near the path at all. If I had to guess, I’d say push was at least as likely as fall. | |||
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"Now body has been found should the go fund me money be returned? That’s your top concern? For this post..yes,for life..no It costs thousands to repatriate a body from abroad. Hopefully those who donated did so from concern and generosity of spirit rather than a money back guarantee if not satisfied. " Exactly. And people have carried on donating since the news of a body being found was released, so I think people are thinking of the wellbeing of the family and what they have been through and are yet to go through (bringing him home). | |||
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"The Maruba yacht (which vanished from radar for 9 days) is 14ft And what is the alleged significance of this craft?" It passed by the Masca jetty around the time Jay went missing, did a strange manoeuvre there and then went off radar for nine days which apparently is highly unusual | |||
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"The Maruba yacht (which vanished from radar for 9 days) is 14ft And what is the alleged significance of this craft? It passed by the Masca jetty around the time Jay went missing, did a strange manoeuvre there and then went off radar for nine days which apparently is highly unusual" According to the marine tracking tools openly available to the public, the vessel sailed from Gran Canaria (on the opposite side of Tenerife to Masca), via La Gomera (the neighbouring island and more on the Masca side) and then directly towards Los Cristianos. It did not go anywhere near Masca, Los Gigantes or anywhere towards the north end of Tenerife. The last known position was sailing away from Las Tejitas area of southern Tenerife on 28 June. That is further around the south end of the island, further away from Masca and near Reina Sofia airport. The chap went missing on 17 June and on/around those days, the Maruba was nowhere near the areas of interest. Just another load of bunkum easily disproven. | |||
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"Thank goodness the lad has been found and hopefully it won't be long before he is repatriated and home. Whatever peoples thoughts and theories are the family do not deserve to hear it.... Disgusting to see adults who should know better lack the compassion and empathy for a life lost
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"Thank goodness the lad has been found and hopefully it won't be long before he is repatriated and home. Whatever peoples thoughts and theories are the family do not deserve to hear it.... Disgusting to see adults who should know better lack the compassion and empathy for a life lost
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"4.6k people donated to the Gofundme. Do you think they have any right to be kept informed of the current situation ?" So giving to charity now buys you a ticket to for example personal police information? That's just a ghastly thought process. Imagine all those people giving to charity being given access to patient records of cancer victims or sexual assault victims just because someone has given a few pence ro a charity. Good lord no. | |||
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"There is a tiny beach at the bottom of the barranco which is serviced by ‘ferries’ that run back to Los Gigantes harbour. The ‘masca walk’ is a common tourist trip and you wouldn’t have to spend too long around any of the resorts before you were offered this as an excursion. I’ve done the walk myself. Got the bus up to masca and walked down the gorge. It’s not remotely physically taxing for anyone who is active. Takes about 2-3 hours if you’re steady. Pick up boat is pretty regular. It’s a small patch of beach with (at the time I did it a few years ago) a wooden structure that you can jump from onto the front of a boat that noses up to it. The walk was suspended for a few years because the canaries government decided it was unsafe and there were internet reports that at one point it had been made unsafe by a storm. I go to Tenerife every year but have not done the walk for about 4 years. I will report back after my visit next February. If, and I mean if, there had been a plan to walk somebody down the gorge either under duress or as a method of escape and pick them up with a small boat I think this would be entirely possible and pretty easy. That is to be regarded as a neutral statement, I know now that the body has been found everyone is jumping on the back of the so-called conspiracy theorists. Some of the evidence from the internet sleuths has been pretty compelling. The relationship between Lucy and jay is extremely suspect with only a very recent record of them having known one another. Lucy lives a social media extravagant lifestyle with no obvious source of income. The drug convictions of the men that returned to London. The say no evil message. The Rolex. Discrepancies over the timings in the phone logs. All in all it seems incomprehensible that the local police have not (publicly at least) taken this into consideration. I would have thought that it was the duty of the police to exclude any sort of criminal action before suggesting that nothing more than an accident has occurred Okay, so the Masca Express from Los Gigantes (where we stay) is a tiny little catamaran type boat, the beach cannot be accessed by anything bigger (no yachts). The walk down the gorge apparently takes over 2hrs in agreeable weather and 3-4hrs up, if one attempts it. That's for people fit, able and willing, with water etc. I can't imagine it's in any way easy or do-able to remove someone unwilling or unconscióus up or down it without serious issues or it being impossible. And what of this yacht? What is the alleged significance? Why was the guy seen alive, alone, asking about buses to Las Américas or Los Cristianos and then found dead in much the same geographic area? It makes no sense that someone suddenly tried to take him (unwillingly) down a very dangerous and steep gorge, or what? Took him down to the beach spit, somehow boarded a boat far bigger than that able to stop at Masca "beach", unalive him, then drag a dead person back up a trip that takes 4hrs in good conditions, without a dead weight, and magically deposit him pretty close to where he made a phonecall that he made alone? I know what sounds more plausible. Misadventure. My post is for information only and on the basis of a journey I have made myself. If, and this post is in no way to make any allegations, you wanted to walk down there, and swim out to a boat a few hundred feet off the beach it’s very easy. If you wanted to ‘unalive’ someone on the beach you only need a 10 euro inflatable dinghy to get them out to same boat. So an original plan to fake a disappearance or dispose of a body at sea is not beyond the realms of possibility. Something quite easily could have happened before that plan was executed. Accident or otherwise. Speculation because as far as I’m aware the exact location the body was found hasn’t been released. It might not be anywhere near the path at all. If I had to guess, I’d say push was at least as likely as fall." Guess, upon guess, upon guess … | |||
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"The Maruba yacht (which vanished from radar for 9 days) is 14ft And what is the alleged significance of this craft? It passed by the Masca jetty around the time Jay went missing, did a strange manoeuvre there and then went off radar for nine days which apparently is highly unusual" What “strange manoeuvre” did the bait do? And what significance are you attempting to attach to said manoeuvre? Why not just tell us what you think happened instead of beating around the bush? | |||
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"I have no idea what actually happened before was he found sadly dead at the bottom of a ravine. The most obvious scenario is he slipped and fell down it. " … so why do you keep vaguely suggesting otherwise? Why do you keep mentioning “unusual manoeuvres” of a small boat? What significance do you attach to that boat? | |||
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Let the lad rest in peace instead of arguing about your shit versus someone’s else’s shit!
Nobody will ever know what happened to him, foul play or otherwise.
Just thank the stars it’s not your son! | |||
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