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By *ensual_Karma OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London

I was driving back from somewhere yesterday and there was a guy crossing the road… he saw I was driving and he kept on walking slowly - not at a junction but half way down the road… he could have stopped half way across the road and let me pass… but nope he was going to keep walking slowly… I kept going and narrowly missed him at which point… I saw him mouth the F word… now… am I missing something in not stopping for his “lordship” to cross the road as slowly as wanted - he was finishing a run (the irony) and he was very young so not old with mobility issues

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By *ascaIMan
24 weeks ago

Cheshire Liverpool Manchester

I hope you mouthed something back. Dick head? Knob head? Bell end?

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By *ensual_Karma OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London


"I hope you mouthed something back. Dick head? Knob head? Bell end? "

No, I think I was taken aback by his attitude…

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By *ansoffateMan
24 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

Obviously he never watched Karate Kid.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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24 weeks ago

East Sussex

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By *icecouple561Couple
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24 weeks ago

East Sussex

Did he have that thing some people get where his muscles go all floppy if they've run too long?

I don't know why he didn't stop or speed up when he saw you but as you had seen him how did you only narrowly miss him, was it a very narrow road?

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago

Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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24 weeks ago

East Sussex


"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes."

I thought that was at junctions and zebra crossings.

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By *ansoffateMan
24 weeks ago

Sagittarius A


"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes.

I thought that was at junctions and zebra crossings. "

I think it's generally considered bad form to run people over, regrettably.

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By *ensual_Karma OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London


"Did he have that thing some people get where his muscles go all floppy if they've run too long?

I don't know why he didn't stop or speed up when he saw you but as you had seen him how did you only narrowly miss him, was it a very narrow road?"

It is quite a wide road - no cars on the other side - he could easily have stopped and waited.

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By *r John WickMan
24 weeks ago

The Continental

Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’.

Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian…………

In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event.

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By *r TriomanMan
24 weeks ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

OP, from what you have described, it sounds like both you and the pedestrian could have been less stubborn; you both could have yielded to demonstrate a willingness to compromise.

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By *ensual_Karma OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London


"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes."

Oh wow I have had to check the Highway Code… and…”If traffic is coming, let it pass. Look all around again and listen. Do not cross until there is a safe gap in the traffic and you are certain that there is plenty of time. Remember, even if traffic is a long way off, it may be approaching very quickly.”

so he can’t cross!

The right of road is on junctions and crossings…

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By *icecouple561Couple
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24 weeks ago

East Sussex


"Did he have that thing some people get where his muscles go all floppy if they've run too long?

I don't know why he didn't stop or speed up when he saw you but as you had seen him how did you only narrowly miss him, was it a very narrow road?

It is quite a wide road - no cars on the other side - he could easily have stopped and waited."

He could I agree. So could you.

It's one of those occasions where neither party knew what was going bon with the other.

He might have been feeling ill. You might have been in a hurry to get home to a sick relative.

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By *bi HaiveMan
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24 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’.

Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian…………

In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event. "

For the sake of probably 10 seconds....

Living in the sticks this is a frequent occurrence. I've no problem stopping for people to cross over.

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By *r TriomanMan
24 weeks ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area


"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes.

Oh wow I have had to check the Highway Code… and…”If traffic is coming, let it pass. Look all around again and listen. Do not cross until there is a safe gap in the traffic and you are certain that there is plenty of time. Remember, even if traffic is a long way off, it may be approaching very quickly.”

so he can’t cross!

OP, does the Highway Code also say that if someone is recklessly crossing the road, drivers have the right to pass by them as close as possible so as to teach them a lesson?

The right of road is on junctions and crossings…"

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By *ustaboutSaneMan
24 weeks ago

My World


"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes."

I think you're right unless there is a sign restring pedestrian crossing along that stretch of road.

If a pedestrian cyclist is on the road in front of you and you hit them, then you as the driver are liable, minimum driving without due care and attention.

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By *lowupdollTV/TS
24 weeks ago

Herts

As a biker I always slow or stop, they wave or say thank you, I nod or wave back. It’s nice. The world just a little more civil.

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By *ustaboutSaneMan
24 weeks ago

My World

The Highway Code is the guide for all UK road users. It includes laws, which say “You MUST” (or must not) and other guidance (“You should”/”should not”/”do not”). Although the failing to comply with “other guidance” is not an offence in itself, it may be deemed to be evidence that another offence, such as careless driving, has been committed and it can also be taken as evidence in deciding who is to blame and how much to blame in the event of a collision.

Since 29 January 2022 the Code has been updated with a hierarchy of vulnerability so that pedestrians, particularly children, the elderly and the disabled (whether that disability is apparent or not), are considered most vulnerable, followed by cyclists, horse riders and drivers of horse-drawn vehicles with those controlling motor-vehicles. However rule H1 says: “None of this detracts from the responsibility of ALL road users, including pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders, to have regard for their own and other road users’ safety.”

This may help, straight for the highway code.

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By *ellinever70Woman
24 weeks ago

Ayrshire

You saw the guy crossing the road...on you to slow down

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
24 weeks ago

North West

He'd already started crossing before you happened upon him? That's a you thing. Just wait. How long did it detain you? A matter of a few seconds?

Impatience kills.

Yours,

An impaired road user.

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By *vilgasamWoman
24 weeks ago

The dot in the i

Wait so he was already on the road - way down the way - before you approached yet you expect him to move for you? While you have breaks and a seat and no wind but you wanted him to move so you didn’t even have to slow

And you didn’t even slow, you continued and almost clipped him?

And now you’re complaining about him?

Well fuck

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By *ensual_Karma OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London

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24 weeks ago

London

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24 weeks ago

London

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
24 weeks ago

Reading


"Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’.

Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian…………

In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event. "

My thoughts exactly. How is someone's life less important than the few seconds you would have lost stopping for him?

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By *rHotNottsMan
24 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Wait so he was already on the road - way down the way - before you approached yet you expect him to move for you? While you have breaks and a seat and no wind but you wanted him to move so you didn’t even have to slow

And you didn’t even slow, you continued and almost clipped him?

And now you’re complaining about him?

Well fuck "

I do this, If I’m crossing the road I will generally take right-of-way over any traffic

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By *ensual_Karma OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London

WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that

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By *ensual_Karma OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London


"Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’.

Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian…………

In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event.

My thoughts exactly. How is someone's life less important than the few seconds you would have lost stopping for him?"

He crosses as he sees me approaching… he could use his limited intelligence to wait a few seconds to stop or just not cross…

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By *r John WickMan
24 weeks ago

The Continental


"Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’.

Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian…………

In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event.

My thoughts exactly. How is someone's life less important than the few seconds you would have lost stopping for him?

He crosses as he sees me approaching… he could use his limited intelligence to wait a few seconds to stop or just not cross… "

But you’re driving the 2 tonne lump of metal that can kill! You had time to allow him the space to cross. It’s not that difficult, or are you just THAT impatient?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
24 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"I was driving back from somewhere yesterday and there was a guy crossing the road… he saw I was driving and he kept on walking slowly - not at a junction but half way down the road… he could have stopped half way across the road and let me pass… but nope he was going to keep walking slowly… I kept going and narrowly missed him at which point… I saw him mouth the F word… now… am I missing something in not stopping for his “lordship” to cross the road as slowly as wanted - he was finishing a run (the irony) and he was very young so not old with mobility issues"

You were in the wrong. Totally and without excuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago


"Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’.

Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian…………

In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event.

My thoughts exactly. How is someone's life less important than the few seconds you would have lost stopping for him?

He crosses as he sees me approaching… he could use his limited intelligence to wait a few seconds to stop or just not cross… "

This seems to have impacted your day to the point where you’re bothered enough to post this on Fab. Do you ask yourself what YOU could have done different in this too? It’s not easy to remember, but try to remember when you point the finger at someone else three grinders are pointing back at you. Literally.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
24 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"OP, from what you have described, it sounds like both you and the pedestrian could have been less stubborn; you both could have yielded to demonstrate a willingness to compromise."

There is nothing to tell us the pedestrian was 'stubborn'

Why second guess? He could have been dazed or any of a hundred other things.

The driver alone was at fault and would be on a murder/manslaughter charge had he hit the pedestrian.

There is no way out of this and opinions dont matter..... nor does cudda wudda shudda ..

The driver saw the pedestrian and took a very entitled attitude and put the pedestrian in danger.

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By *ellhungvweMan
24 weeks ago

Cheltenham

_You_ saw someone walking across the road and _you_ kept on driving at him and now _you_ think he was the one in the wrong?

I think _you_ need to learn how to drive around other road users who have priority over _you_.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
24 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that"

Don't start attacking people because they don't agree with you.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
24 weeks ago

Central

Not everyone has the same cognitive capacities, so living in a society with others requires us to adjust and manage our behaviour when around them, as they do for us.

Problems are best avoided, if we can mitigate their likelihood. Slow down when you see people who may put themselves and others at risk.

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By *ensual_Karma OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London


"WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that

Don't start attacking people because they don't agree with you.

"

Making a comment - then blocking - is poor!

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By *ustaboutSaneMan
24 weeks ago

My World


"Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’.

Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian…………

In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event.

My thoughts exactly. How is someone's life less important than the few seconds you would have lost stopping for him?

He crosses as he sees me approaching… he could use his limited intelligence to wait a few seconds to stop or just not cross… "

And you used your intelligence to continue and potentially cause an injury to himself and now seem to justify that you were not in the wrong even though the highway code demonstrates that you would be. I'm confused at your justifications.

If you rear ended another vehicle 9/10 you are the one responsible. He was Infront of you you should have stopped. You have admitted that you deliberately continued and drove as close to him as possible. In any court of law you'd be held liable for willful dangerous driving.

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By *ellhungvweMan
24 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that

Don't start attacking people because they don't agree with you.

Making a comment - then blocking - is poor!"

Blocked on the road by one of those pesky pedestrians and now blocked on here. Not your day is it OP?

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By *r John WickMan
24 weeks ago

The Continental


"WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that

Don't start attacking people because they don't agree with you.

Making a comment - then blocking - is poor!"

How?

Many people will chuck abuse about privately if they disagree with someone. Perhaps they’re taking a preventative step.

You’ve already shown this by calling the person out, but not others with the same opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago


"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes.

I thought that was at junctions and zebra crossings. "

This is true.

Only at junctions. And we all knew it was going to cause problems.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
24 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that

Don't start attacking people because they don't agree with you.

Making a comment - then blocking - is poor!"

Oh great. You do , Road Crossing Etiquette AND Forum Etiquette. Good to know.

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By *ustaboutSaneMan
24 weeks ago

My World


"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes.

I thought that was at junctions and zebra crossings.

This is true.

Only at junctions. And we all knew it was going to cause problems. "

29 January 2022 the Code has been updated with a hierarchy of vulnerability and not limiting to crossings.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
24 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes.

I thought that was at junctions and zebra crossings.

This is true.

Only at junctions. And we all knew it was going to cause problems. "

I disagree Woody. It only causes problems for those that are poor drivers.

I know the 2 year old rule says 'at junctions' BUT it's always been that every road users priority is to be AWARE and ensure the safety of others.

Cars have ALWAYS stopped for 'things' in the road .... e.g. Oldies, d*unks, tyres, kids, footballs, the odd cow or two .....

It's up to both to avoid an accident. Entitlement and ego don't allow some people to slow down

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago

I hate this attitude that people driving a car believe they own the road. Worst of all are the pricks who speed up when they see somebody crossing the road. They're closely followed by wankers who close-pass cyclists or don't slow down for horses. They're the same pricks who drive up your arse, weaving behind you.

If you can't accept other people's right to use the road, you're not fit to drive.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
24 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

I’m not overly sure of what actually transpired going by the OP’s account, but if I encounter a pedestrian in the road I give way to them, regardless of what my personal opinion of whether they should have chosen to be in the road at that point.

I may internally think, ‘what a numpty’, but the potential consequences of not giving way are simply not worth not giving way.

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By *ensual_Karma OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London


"I hate this attitude that people driving a car believe they own the road. Worst of all are the pricks who speed up when they see somebody crossing the road. They're closely followed by wankers who close-pass cyclists or don't slow down for horses. They're the same pricks who drive up your arse, weaving behind you.

If you can't accept other people's right to use the road, you're not fit to drive. "

I also question the intelligence of people who needlessly take decisions to put their lives at risk… there is a judgment call to be made… it’s not all drivers are put in a position that they are needlessly made to play chicken.

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By *ellhungvweMan
24 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"I hate this attitude that people driving a car believe they own the road. Worst of all are the pricks who speed up when they see somebody crossing the road. They're closely followed by wankers who close-pass cyclists or don't slow down for horses. They're the same pricks who drive up your arse, weaving behind you.

If you can't accept other people's right to use the road, you're not fit to drive.

I also question the intelligence of people who needlessly take decisions to put their lives at risk… there is a judgment call to be made… it’s not all drivers are put in a position that they are needlessly made to play chicken. "

Did you have to slam the brakes on or did you have enough time to slow down?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
24 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"I hate this attitude that people driving a car believe they own the road. Worst of all are the pricks who speed up when they see somebody crossing the road. They're closely followed by wankers who close-pass cyclists or don't slow down for horses. They're the same pricks who drive up your arse, weaving behind you.

If you can't accept other people's right to use the road, you're not fit to drive.

I also question the intelligence of people who needlessly take decisions to put their lives at risk… there is a judgment call to be made… it’s not all drivers are put in a position that they are needlessly made to play chicken. "

Don't worry about the intelligence of others or how they use the road..... just keep your own in check .....

Just keep ignoring people's advice.. that's the way to go. Especially if your plan is to maim or kill.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
24 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

I am also very disappointed that 49 posts in and nobody has made a chicken crossing the road joke, things are definitely slipping in the forums

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By *r John WickMan
24 weeks ago

The Continental


"I hate this attitude that people driving a car believe they own the road. Worst of all are the pricks who speed up when they see somebody crossing the road. They're closely followed by wankers who close-pass cyclists or don't slow down for horses. They're the same pricks who drive up your arse, weaving behind you.

If you can't accept other people's right to use the road, you're not fit to drive.

I also question the intelligence of people who needlessly take decisions to put their lives at risk… there is a judgment call to be made… it’s not all drivers are put in a position that they are needlessly made to play chicken. "

But you WERE put in a position to CHOOSE, and you CHOSE to put the guys life at risk by continuing. Instead of taking a few extra seconds to slow down as soon as you saw him step into the road.

Your blind ignorance to the fact that you’re in the killing machine is breathtaking.

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago


"I also question the intelligence of people who needlessly take decisions to put their lives at risk… there is a judgment call to be made… "

And yet there you are... driving a car...

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By *ustaboutSaneMan
24 weeks ago

My World


"I hate this attitude that people driving a car believe they own the road. Worst of all are the pricks who speed up when they see somebody crossing the road. They're closely followed by wankers who close-pass cyclists or don't slow down for horses. They're the same pricks who drive up your arse, weaving behind you.

If you can't accept other people's right to use the road, you're not fit to drive.

I also question the intelligence of people who needlessly take decisions to put their lives at risk… there is a judgment call to be made… it’s not all drivers are put in a position that they are needlessly made to play chicken. "

That's not really in question here ... What is in question and it has already been established under the road traffic laws, that Rule H1 of The Highway Code establishes a hierarchy of road users which ensures that those road users who can do the greatest harm have the greatest responsibility to reduce the danger or threat they may pose to other road users. That shows you were fully responsible in this situation and shows you felt aggrieved that someone should cause you to slow down.

There is no more debate on this anymore.

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By *vilgasamWoman
24 weeks ago

The dot in the i


"WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that

Don't start attacking people because they don't agree with you.

Making a comment - then blocking - is poor!"

Just to clarify, the block came when I read the thread, the comment I left was later but nice assumption

And no, I won’t stay watching the thread all day to reply, might nosy later though

Have a nice tantrum

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By *erry bull1Man
24 weeks ago

doncaster

Regardless if the pedestrian was right or wrong in his actions , I think the courts would take a dim view if you had run over him and injured him

Plus it’s the start of walking dead with so many people on recreational drugs , you need to be wary when driving

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By *till gameMan
24 weeks ago

two doors down

Anyone got popcorn left, I’ve ran out of mine

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By *ensual_Karma OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London

A lot of strong responses! Didn’t realise (maybe I should have done) that this was so contentious… thank you for your comments - I am a courteous driver in general… but this was one weird situation where I as a pedestrian normally do things differently.

Thank you for your comments - I will digest…

I’m not an a*raehole really!

But - if people have judged me already - so be it!

Love you all xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago


"A lot of strong responses! Didn’t realise (maybe I should have done) that this was so contentious… thank you for your comments - I am a courteous driver in general… but this was one weird situation where I as a pedestrian normally do things differently.

Thank you for your comments - I will digest…

I’m not an a*raehole really!

But - if people have judged me already - so be it!

Love you all xxxx"

Just chill and enjoy the drive

Now get outta my fuckin way

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By *ensual_Karma OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London

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By *ensual_Karma OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London

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By *r John WickMan
24 weeks ago

The Continental

Just consider the vulnerability of the pedestrian vs your position of relative invincibility in the car.

Easy really.

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By *illy IdolMan
24 weeks ago

Midlands

Next time slam your brakes on till they screech. Watch how quick they move then.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
24 weeks ago

North West

My Dad has dementia, he's older yes. He insists on living "independently" and social services do nothing to disabuse him of that, so he goes off wandering all over.

I'm certain he no longer understands the "rules" of crossing the road. I know he's quite slow and sometimes unsteady on his feet. He doesn't have "limited intelligence", but he does have a mental disability that is causing his previously capable brain to function incorrectly.

If some utter t*** of a driver freaked out my Dad as he crosses by deliberately continuing and hoping he'll stop, or worse, hits him, I would need to restrained from committing a serious offence myself.

Just stop and let the person finish crossing. You don't know that they were completely able, physically or mentally, and irrespective of that, it's just plainly logical to NOT effectively risk killing someone just because it's a bit annoying for you.

Drive properly or stop driving.

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By *rHotNottsMan
24 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"A lot of strong responses! Didn’t realise (maybe I should have done) that this was so contentious… thank you for your comments - I am a courteous driver in general… but this was one weird situation where I as a pedestrian normally do things differently.

Thank you for your comments - I will digest…

I’m not an a*raehole really!

But - if people have judged me already - so be it!

Love you all xxxx"

Well now you know the rules.

Generally if I’m crossing the road particularly slowly, like if I’m on fab or had a tough leg day, I’ll raise it palm towards oncoming traffic informing them they need to stop , but not everyone is as courteous as me.

Caveat exactoris

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By *oo..Woman
24 weeks ago

Boo's World

The fact he was already crossing, I'd not have made the person stop half way across in the middle of the road to let you go past first.

Just stop/slow down and let them go first. Literally takes seconds off your trip.

A question:

Would you have done it any different if this was a person crossing with young children or using a mobility aid?

Or would you have still done the same close call/miss thing to them too?

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By *ady LickWoman
24 weeks ago

Northampton Somewhere

Pretty sure if you were on driving test that would of been a fail.

Pedestrians have right of way, end of!

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By *usie pTV/TS
24 weeks ago

taunton

He is just one of those, fook all useful to do in life so just likes to make a nuisance of himself as some sort of power trip, but probably best not to knock him down just give him a damn good fright.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
24 weeks ago

Horsham

You are both as bad as each other then.

He could have stopped.

You could have stopped or slowed down.

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By *usie pTV/TS
24 weeks ago

taunton

P.S. some years ago I was driving through the middle of the local town and saw a group of young uns on the pavement and one with a bycycle as I approached he started to ride the bike my way as I got nearer he suddenly swerved the bike onto my side of the road at the same time trying to make it look as though he had fallen off they were plainly obviously playing a game of dare so \i just drove over the back wheel, looked in the mirror to see his mates pissing themselves laughing he was well out of the way so a good bit of fun was had by most of us.

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By *lex46TV/TS
24 weeks ago

Near Wells

If I’m the one that’s going to get hurt if there’s an accident I’ll back of or stop ie riding a motorbike or being a pedestrian.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
24 weeks ago

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"He is just one of those, fook all useful to do in life so just likes to make a nuisance of himself as some sort of power trip, but probably best not to knock him down just give him a damn good fright."

You have no idea of his circumstances. This is a horrible idea.

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