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"I hope you mouthed something back. Dick head? Knob head? Bell end? " No, I think I was taken aback by his attitude… | |||
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"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes." I thought that was at junctions and zebra crossings. | |||
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"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes. I thought that was at junctions and zebra crossings. " I think it's generally considered bad form to run people over, regrettably. | |||
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"Did he have that thing some people get where his muscles go all floppy if they've run too long? I don't know why he didn't stop or speed up when he saw you but as you had seen him how did you only narrowly miss him, was it a very narrow road?" It is quite a wide road - no cars on the other side - he could easily have stopped and waited. | |||
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"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes." Oh wow I have had to check the Highway Code… and…”If traffic is coming, let it pass. Look all around again and listen. Do not cross until there is a safe gap in the traffic and you are certain that there is plenty of time. Remember, even if traffic is a long way off, it may be approaching very quickly.” so he can’t cross! The right of road is on junctions and crossings… | |||
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"Did he have that thing some people get where his muscles go all floppy if they've run too long? I don't know why he didn't stop or speed up when he saw you but as you had seen him how did you only narrowly miss him, was it a very narrow road? It is quite a wide road - no cars on the other side - he could easily have stopped and waited." He could I agree. So could you. It's one of those occasions where neither party knew what was going bon with the other. He might have been feeling ill. You might have been in a hurry to get home to a sick relative. | |||
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"Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’. Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian………… In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event. " For the sake of probably 10 seconds.... Living in the sticks this is a frequent occurrence. I've no problem stopping for people to cross over. | |||
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"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes. Oh wow I have had to check the Highway Code… and…”If traffic is coming, let it pass. Look all around again and listen. Do not cross until there is a safe gap in the traffic and you are certain that there is plenty of time. Remember, even if traffic is a long way off, it may be approaching very quickly.” so he can’t cross! OP, does the Highway Code also say that if someone is recklessly crossing the road, drivers have the right to pass by them as close as possible so as to teach them a lesson? The right of road is on junctions and crossings…" | |||
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"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes." I think you're right unless there is a sign restring pedestrian crossing along that stretch of road. If a pedestrian cyclist is on the road in front of you and you hit them, then you as the driver are liable, minimum driving without due care and attention. | |||
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"Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’. Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian………… In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event. " My thoughts exactly. How is someone's life less important than the few seconds you would have lost stopping for him? | |||
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"Wait so he was already on the road - way down the way - before you approached yet you expect him to move for you? While you have breaks and a seat and no wind but you wanted him to move so you didn’t even have to slow And you didn’t even slow, you continued and almost clipped him? And now you’re complaining about him? Well fuck " I do this, If I’m crossing the road I will generally take right-of-way over any traffic | |||
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"Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’. Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian………… In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event. My thoughts exactly. How is someone's life less important than the few seconds you would have lost stopping for him?" He crosses as he sees me approaching… he could use his limited intelligence to wait a few seconds to stop or just not cross… | |||
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"Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’. Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian………… In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event. My thoughts exactly. How is someone's life less important than the few seconds you would have lost stopping for him? He crosses as he sees me approaching… he could use his limited intelligence to wait a few seconds to stop or just not cross… " But you’re driving the 2 tonne lump of metal that can kill! You had time to allow him the space to cross. It’s not that difficult, or are you just THAT impatient? | |||
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"I was driving back from somewhere yesterday and there was a guy crossing the road… he saw I was driving and he kept on walking slowly - not at a junction but half way down the road… he could have stopped half way across the road and let me pass… but nope he was going to keep walking slowly… I kept going and narrowly missed him at which point… I saw him mouth the F word… now… am I missing something in not stopping for his “lordship” to cross the road as slowly as wanted - he was finishing a run (the irony) and he was very young so not old with mobility issues" You were in the wrong. Totally and without excuse. | |||
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"Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’. Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian………… In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event. My thoughts exactly. How is someone's life less important than the few seconds you would have lost stopping for him? He crosses as he sees me approaching… he could use his limited intelligence to wait a few seconds to stop or just not cross… " This seems to have impacted your day to the point where you’re bothered enough to post this on Fab. Do you ask yourself what YOU could have done different in this too? It’s not easy to remember, but try to remember when you point the finger at someone else three grinders are pointing back at you. Literally. | |||
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"OP, from what you have described, it sounds like both you and the pedestrian could have been less stubborn; you both could have yielded to demonstrate a willingness to compromise." There is nothing to tell us the pedestrian was 'stubborn' Why second guess? He could have been dazed or any of a hundred other things. The driver alone was at fault and would be on a murder/manslaughter charge had he hit the pedestrian. There is no way out of this and opinions dont matter..... nor does cudda wudda shudda .. The driver saw the pedestrian and took a very entitled attitude and put the pedestrian in danger. | |||
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"WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that" Don't start attacking people because they don't agree with you. | |||
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"WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that Don't start attacking people because they don't agree with you. " Making a comment - then blocking - is poor! | |||
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"Conversely, you could have stopped, and allowed him to cross. Thereby not putting him in danger of injury had you not ‘just missed him’. Very rare that car drivers die from being hit by a pedestrian………… In this instance, a bit of patience from both parties would have seen this as a non event. My thoughts exactly. How is someone's life less important than the few seconds you would have lost stopping for him? He crosses as he sees me approaching… he could use his limited intelligence to wait a few seconds to stop or just not cross… " And you used your intelligence to continue and potentially cause an injury to himself and now seem to justify that you were not in the wrong even though the highway code demonstrates that you would be. I'm confused at your justifications. If you rear ended another vehicle 9/10 you are the one responsible. He was Infront of you you should have stopped. You have admitted that you deliberately continued and drove as close to him as possible. In any court of law you'd be held liable for willful dangerous driving. | |||
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"WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that Don't start attacking people because they don't agree with you. Making a comment - then blocking - is poor!" Blocked on the road by one of those pesky pedestrians and now blocked on here. Not your day is it OP? | |||
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"WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that Don't start attacking people because they don't agree with you. Making a comment - then blocking - is poor!" How? Many people will chuck abuse about privately if they disagree with someone. Perhaps they’re taking a preventative step. You’ve already shown this by calling the person out, but not others with the same opinion. | |||
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"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes. I thought that was at junctions and zebra crossings. " This is true. Only at junctions. And we all knew it was going to cause problems. | |||
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"WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that Don't start attacking people because they don't agree with you. Making a comment - then blocking - is poor!" Oh great. You do , Road Crossing Etiquette AND Forum Etiquette. Good to know. | |||
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"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes. I thought that was at junctions and zebra crossings. This is true. Only at junctions. And we all knew it was going to cause problems. " 29 January 2022 the Code has been updated with a hierarchy of vulnerability and not limiting to crossings. | |||
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"Unfortuanatly the highway code now sayes he has the right of road and you must slow down and if nessasary stop. Stupid i know but thats the rules. Same for bikes. I thought that was at junctions and zebra crossings. This is true. Only at junctions. And we all knew it was going to cause problems. " I disagree Woody. It only causes problems for those that are poor drivers. I know the 2 year old rule says 'at junctions' BUT it's always been that every road users priority is to be AWARE and ensure the safety of others. Cars have ALWAYS stopped for 'things' in the road .... e.g. Oldies, d*unks, tyres, kids, footballs, the odd cow or two ..... It's up to both to avoid an accident. Entitlement and ego don't allow some people to slow down | |||
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"I hate this attitude that people driving a car believe they own the road. Worst of all are the pricks who speed up when they see somebody crossing the road. They're closely followed by wankers who close-pass cyclists or don't slow down for horses. They're the same pricks who drive up your arse, weaving behind you. If you can't accept other people's right to use the road, you're not fit to drive. " I also question the intelligence of people who needlessly take decisions to put their lives at risk… there is a judgment call to be made… it’s not all drivers are put in a position that they are needlessly made to play chicken. | |||
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"I hate this attitude that people driving a car believe they own the road. Worst of all are the pricks who speed up when they see somebody crossing the road. They're closely followed by wankers who close-pass cyclists or don't slow down for horses. They're the same pricks who drive up your arse, weaving behind you. If you can't accept other people's right to use the road, you're not fit to drive. I also question the intelligence of people who needlessly take decisions to put their lives at risk… there is a judgment call to be made… it’s not all drivers are put in a position that they are needlessly made to play chicken. " Did you have to slam the brakes on or did you have enough time to slow down? | |||
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"I hate this attitude that people driving a car believe they own the road. Worst of all are the pricks who speed up when they see somebody crossing the road. They're closely followed by wankers who close-pass cyclists or don't slow down for horses. They're the same pricks who drive up your arse, weaving behind you. If you can't accept other people's right to use the road, you're not fit to drive. I also question the intelligence of people who needlessly take decisions to put their lives at risk… there is a judgment call to be made… it’s not all drivers are put in a position that they are needlessly made to play chicken. " Don't worry about the intelligence of others or how they use the road..... just keep your own in check ..... Just keep ignoring people's advice.. that's the way to go. Especially if your plan is to maim or kill. | |||
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"I hate this attitude that people driving a car believe they own the road. Worst of all are the pricks who speed up when they see somebody crossing the road. They're closely followed by wankers who close-pass cyclists or don't slow down for horses. They're the same pricks who drive up your arse, weaving behind you. If you can't accept other people's right to use the road, you're not fit to drive. I also question the intelligence of people who needlessly take decisions to put their lives at risk… there is a judgment call to be made… it’s not all drivers are put in a position that they are needlessly made to play chicken. " But you WERE put in a position to CHOOSE, and you CHOSE to put the guys life at risk by continuing. Instead of taking a few extra seconds to slow down as soon as you saw him step into the road. Your blind ignorance to the fact that you’re in the killing machine is breathtaking. | |||
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"I also question the intelligence of people who needlessly take decisions to put their lives at risk… there is a judgment call to be made… " And yet there you are... driving a car... | |||
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"I hate this attitude that people driving a car believe they own the road. Worst of all are the pricks who speed up when they see somebody crossing the road. They're closely followed by wankers who close-pass cyclists or don't slow down for horses. They're the same pricks who drive up your arse, weaving behind you. If you can't accept other people's right to use the road, you're not fit to drive. I also question the intelligence of people who needlessly take decisions to put their lives at risk… there is a judgment call to be made… it’s not all drivers are put in a position that they are needlessly made to play chicken. " That's not really in question here ... What is in question and it has already been established under the road traffic laws, that Rule H1 of The Highway Code establishes a hierarchy of road users which ensures that those road users who can do the greatest harm have the greatest responsibility to reduce the danger or threat they may pose to other road users. That shows you were fully responsible in this situation and shows you felt aggrieved that someone should cause you to slow down. There is no more debate on this anymore. | |||
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"WellEvilgasm has thrown her toys out the pram… poor that Don't start attacking people because they don't agree with you. Making a comment - then blocking - is poor!" Just to clarify, the block came when I read the thread, the comment I left was later but nice assumption And no, I won’t stay watching the thread all day to reply, might nosy later though Have a nice tantrum | |||
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"A lot of strong responses! Didn’t realise (maybe I should have done) that this was so contentious… thank you for your comments - I am a courteous driver in general… but this was one weird situation where I as a pedestrian normally do things differently. Thank you for your comments - I will digest… I’m not an a*raehole really! But - if people have judged me already - so be it! Love you all xxxx" Just chill and enjoy the drive Now get outta my fuckin way | |||
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"A lot of strong responses! Didn’t realise (maybe I should have done) that this was so contentious… thank you for your comments - I am a courteous driver in general… but this was one weird situation where I as a pedestrian normally do things differently. Thank you for your comments - I will digest… I’m not an a*raehole really! But - if people have judged me already - so be it! Love you all xxxx" Well now you know the rules. Generally if I’m crossing the road particularly slowly, like if I’m on fab or had a tough leg day, I’ll raise it palm towards oncoming traffic informing them they need to stop , but not everyone is as courteous as me. Caveat exactoris | |||
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"He is just one of those, fook all useful to do in life so just likes to make a nuisance of himself as some sort of power trip, but probably best not to knock him down just give him a damn good fright." You have no idea of his circumstances. This is a horrible idea. | |||
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