FabSwingers.com forum: Should they ban energy drinks to children?

By *hagTonight OP Man
29 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

I read an article about it and there the labour leader starmer revealed their plan to introduce a ban on the sale on high caffeine drinks to children aged under 16, even jamie oliver have backed his plan and described it as "really exciting", on the list of the products to ban was the monster one, it was high up on the list.

He added that which I agree on is, how the caffeine content in these products effect childrens behaviors, he added if they talk to anyone who is in a school they will tell you what the problem is.

To much caffeine causes things like disruptions in sleep, an increased risk of adhd, anxiety and changes in mood, to name somo of the side effects.

What is your view of it and do you also agree with starmers concern about it, also, if you are a parent have you noticed those effects too, if they have to much of it?

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By *rHotNottsMan
29 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Doesn’t take much to get Jamie Oliver excited. Chuck a few lettuce leaves on a piece of old slate He’s literally having an orgasm

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By *ellinever70Woman
29 weeks ago

Ayrshire

Yes

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By *annibal_LickedherMan
29 weeks ago

The Side of the Mersey

Aren’t they already banned to kids? Any time I buy one from a self service till, it comes up age verification.

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By *ehindHerEyesCouple
29 weeks ago

SomewhereOnlyWeKnow

Tbh I thought the sale to under 16's was banned already.

While I do drink the occasional one I understand the effects they can have hence why I drink them when I do.

For a child I can't see any positive effects they would gain.

They should be banned for under 16's but personally I think it's a strange vote winning pledge.

Marc

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By *lik and PaulCouple
29 weeks ago

cahoots

Its just soundbites for the election.

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By *he love catsCouple
29 weeks ago

South Wales

You can't buy them around here if you're under 16 I thought it was the same throughout the country.

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By *ka OMBMan
29 weeks ago

Wigan/Warrington/St Helens ish

I agree. Not sure that these drinks cause ADHD/anxiety etc as my understanding is those conditions are generally already there, but they exacerbate already present conditions in children no doubt

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By *hief_Of_AlwaysMan
29 weeks ago

London or Bedford

I never understood those kids on the street with their bloody energy drinks.

You don’t need them, YOU HAVE YOUTH.

I never needed them.

Too much late night gaming, that’s your problem!

Aaaaaah, I’ve turned into my Dad!!!

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By *ittlebirdWoman
29 weeks ago

The Big Smoke

"You can't buy them around here if you're under 16 I thought it was the same throughout the country."

It’s not law though. Just the choice of certain retailers.

No I don’t think they should be banned. Controlled yes. Banned no. And no I don’t think they should be able to sell them in 500ml cans. That’s way too much caffeine and sugar for anyone. Not just kids

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By *-MrGatsby-.Man
29 weeks ago

London and Sandy

I believe it's to try and enforce it on small local shops. The big chains already restrict the purchase.

Also it's not just the caffeine that's the issue, it's the amount of sugar contained and the resulting increase we're seeing with type 2 diabetes in younger people.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
29 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"I agree. Not sure that these drinks cause ADHD/anxiety etc as my understanding is those conditions are generally already there, but they exacerbate already present conditions in children no doubt "

I was talking with my work colleague the other day whose son has ADHD and he said if his son has one of those drinks batten down the hatches and run for cover,he goes ape shit apparently.

Obviously he doesn't allow him to have them.

Personally I think they should be banned full stop regardless of age.

The sugar content is obscene and type 2 diabetes is a health crisis these drinks are definitely compounding the issue not to mention the caffeine content and the chemicals.

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By *929Man
29 weeks ago

newcastle

"I never understood those kids on the street with their bloody energy drinks.

You don’t need them, YOU HAVE YOUTH.

I never needed them.

Too much late night gaming, that’s your problem!

Aaaaaah, I’ve turned into my Dad!!!

Haha full agree mate

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By (user no longer on site)
29 weeks ago

Kids don't need energy drinks or Fizzy drinks at all.

What's happened to the days of eating a whole packet of Loveheart sweets to send you loopy for the hour.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
29 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Anyone remember when sunny d came out, everyone was drinking it and going bonkers.

They had to withdraw it and change the ingredients.

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By *amantha_JadeWoman
29 weeks ago

Newcastle

I thought they were already banned but if not, they should be.

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By *ubikslongswordMan
29 weeks ago

Rubiksville

"I agree. Not sure that these drinks cause ADHD/anxiety etc as my understanding is those conditions are generally already there, but they exacerbate already present conditions in children no doubt

I was talking with my work colleague the other day whose son has ADHD and he said if his son has one of those drinks batten down the hatches and run for cover,he goes ape shit apparently.

Obviously he doesn't allow him to have them.

Personally I think they should be banned full stop regardless of age.

The sugar content is obscene and type 2 diabetes is a health crisis these drinks are definitely compounding the issue not to mention the caffeine content and the chemicals.

That's weird, most people with ADHD use caffeine as self medication as it releases dopamine in the brain so helps regulate the brain chemistry, I have ADHD and caffeine makes me sleepy.

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By *organ and rob zombieCouple
29 weeks ago

bradford

Yes, saw a child drinking a can of it on his way to school this morning, he was trailing behind his mother/carer/“responsible” adult. I think such drinks should definitely have an age limit and how much sugar, caffeine, artificial ingredients should be the most prominent information on the can

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By (user no longer on site)
29 weeks ago

I don't really care, Overall I agree but at the end of the day it should be the parents' job to encourage their kids to eat and drink the right things. The government shouldn't have to be the nanny, there's also a lot of other unhealthy stuff children consume, like and sweets but we're not going to ban that are we?

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By *eard and TattsCouple
29 weeks ago

Cwmbran

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By *eard and TattsCouple
29 weeks ago

Cwmbran

Yes, obviously

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
29 weeks ago

East Sussex

Can't we just give them a double espresso with five spoons of sugar and send them on their way?

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By *mimrgreyMan
29 weeks ago

lancaster

Under16s cant buy them sales ofgoods act been around for years

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By *ansoffateMan
29 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

I'm not convinced that caffeine increases the risk of ADHD. The causes are not completely understood but as far as I'm aware it's considered genetic.

Stimulants are used to treat ADHD and caffeine is often a self-medication for people who are undiagnosed, hence can't get access to medications that are often scheduled - a GP won't prescribe them.

It's debatable whether caffeine is overall a positive stimulant for someone with ADHD but taking that away from them, without providing an effective alternative isn't ideal, in my opinion. Allowing GPs to prescribe better alternatives would be a more progressive step and improving access to referrals and diagnosis with specialists.

I do believe caffeine can exacerbate anxiety but so can trying to cope with ADHD without stimulant medication.

Education so people can make informed decisions for themselves, rather than prohibition, is my personal preference. A gillick competent child can make medical decisions for themselves, a 16 year old certainly can.

So no I don't agree and I don't think it ought to be a parents decision above 16 either.

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By *erfHerder74Man
29 weeks ago

Inverclyde

Remember my parents wouldn’t let me buy lucozade till I was 17 haha

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By *hagTonight OP Man
29 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
29 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"Tbh I thought the sale to under 16's was banned already.

While I do drink the occasional one I understand the effects they can have hence why I drink them when I do.

For a child I can't see any positive effects they would gain.

They should be banned for under 16's but personally I think it's a strange vote winning pledge.

Marc"
Yes, you are right there, there wouldnt be any positive effects they would gain from it

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By *ools and the brainCouple
29 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"I agree. Not sure that these drinks cause ADHD/anxiety etc as my understanding is those conditions are generally already there, but they exacerbate already present conditions in children no doubt

I was talking with my work colleague the other day whose son has ADHD and he said if his son has one of those drinks batten down the hatches and run for cover,he goes ape shit apparently.

Obviously he doesn't allow him to have them.

Personally I think they should be banned full stop regardless of age.

The sugar content is obscene and type 2 diabetes is a health crisis these drinks are definitely compounding the issue not to mention the caffeine content and the chemicals.

That's weird, most people with ADHD use caffeine as self medication as it releases dopamine in the brain so helps regulate the brain chemistry, I have ADHD and caffeine makes me sleepy."

Only saying what he told me.

I'd imagine as per my post it's probably more to do with sugar and chemicals.

And surely not everyone is the same after all isn't everyone always saying how different we all are these days?

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By *ittlebirdWoman
29 weeks ago

The Big Smoke

"Under16s cant buy them sales ofgoods act been around for years "

Yes they can. This is not law

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By *hagTonight OP Man
29 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"Yes, saw a child drinking a can of it on his way to school this morning, he was trailing behind his mother/carer/“responsible” adult. I think such drinks should definitely have an age limit and how much sugar, caffeine, artificial ingredients should be the most prominent information on the can"
Yes, you are right there, such drinks should have an age limit too

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By *obby3264Man
29 weeks ago

Cambridge

I thought they already had.

It’s about time Labour said something useful like save the NHS a win for sure.

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By *riar BelisseWoman
29 weeks ago

Delightful Bliss

They will only get their mates to buy them one, would be better to do it for no under 18's to make any impact on it

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By *hagTonight OP Man
29 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"Can't we just give them a double espresso with five spoons of sugar and send them on their way?"
Yes, giving them a espresso instead would be good, the less sugar the better it is

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By (user no longer on site)
29 weeks ago

Yes sugar and shit

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By *herrybakewellCouple
29 weeks ago

Staffordshire

Ban them all together, it can't be good for you.

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By *ascaIMan
29 weeks ago

Cheshire Liverpool Manchester

They need to make an example out of any under 16’s attempting to buy these drinks. Bring back hanging.

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By *ansoffateMan
29 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

"They need to make an example out of any under 16’s attempting to buy these drinks. Bring back hanging. "

Hanging is too good for them. Burn them at the stake.

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By *aprica2Couple
29 weeks ago

Addlestone

Should get them off the shelfs, we've had a few avid energy drinkers at our work have strokes but they were 4-5 cans a day for a few years, both of them told no more of those drinks

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
29 weeks ago

Central

I'd assumed that they were already restricted and I'd agree with the approach

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By *he Forum Thread KillerMan
29 weeks ago

Paper Town Central, Essex.

Plain aluminium tins, of no more than 100ml,from behind the counter I think.

God, at this rate, the whole supermarket will be behind the counter.

Clickbait rules in this election.

Get on to more serious stuff.

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By *uctifanoWoman
29 weeks ago

Glasgow

Yes

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By *un Rugby playerMan
29 weeks ago

village near hatfield

Starmer politicising something which is already law ; when is the cheap vote going to realise that we are ( even more ) fucked with him and Rayner - not to mention Diane Abbot in charge .

Tory’s are weak too . No strong leaders out there and we are run by the media.

This is going to cause extremism like France ; it’s going to go Pete Tong !

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By *ou only live onceMan
29 weeks ago

London

"Starmer politicising something which is already law ; when is the cheap vote going to realise that we are ( even more ) fucked with him and Rayner - not to mention Diane Abbot in charge .

Tory’s are weak too . No strong leaders out there and we are run by the media.

This is going to cause extremism like France ; it’s going to go Pete Tong ! "

It's not already law.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
29 weeks ago

walsall

Yes, and vapes too.

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By *ou only live onceMan
29 weeks ago

London

It doesn't affect me massively, but I'd support it. Bans are extreme measures, but they do change behavior.

We shouldn't want our under-16s (or anyone really!) stuffing themselves silly on drinks full of caffeine and sugar - you'd hope parents/carers would ensure their young people didn't overdose, but they can't be there all the time so a ban would stop school-children buying 7 cans of Monster at break time. Can't be a bad thing.

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By *4bimMan
29 weeks ago

Farnborough Hampshire

i think in years to come people will start having serious health issues due to the comsumption of these energy drinks.

poor eyesight and various heart conditions being two. just remember all the sports stars etc who are taking money from these companies to promote it.

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By *eard and TattsCouple
29 weeks ago

Cwmbran

Ban gender reaffirming care too.

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By *ittlebirdWoman
29 weeks ago

The Big Smoke

"Starmer politicising something which is already law ; when is the cheap vote going to realise that we are ( even more ) fucked with him and Rayner - not to mention Diane Abbot in charge .

Tory’s are weak too . No strong leaders out there and we are run by the media.

This is going to cause extremism like France ; it’s going to go Pete Tong ! "

It is definitely NOT law already. As I’ve said quite a few times above ^^

And yes this is talking as someone who does actually know for sure

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By *lowupdollTV/TS
29 weeks ago

Herts/Beds/Lomdon

"They need to make an example out of any under 16’s attempting to buy these drinks. Bring back hanging.

Hanging is too good for them. Burn them at the stake."

The Greens won’t like that.

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By *ather WickmasMan
29 weeks ago

The Continental

Supermarkets put a VOLUNTARY ban in place that restricts the sales of energy drinks to under 16’s. Hence the experiences at the tills.

There’s nothing to stop other retailers selling it to kids……yet.

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By *ad NannaWoman
29 weeks ago

East London

My daughter had a problem with the blue Smarties.

She was quite young and knew they affected her, so she picked them out if anyone bought her a tube.

Unfortunately, not all children can self-govern like that,so I agree that children shouldn't drink energy drinks.

I think all energy drinks should be banned.

I drink way too much Lucozade and have very little self control so I need the Government to do it for me.

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By *eadinthecloudsMan
29 weeks ago

Manchester

Pretty sure they’re already banned. They do an age check when purchasing these at supermarkets.

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By *ather WickmasMan
29 weeks ago

The Continental

"Pretty sure they’re already banned. They do an age check when purchasing these at supermarkets. "

As I’ve already mentioned above a it’s a VOLUNTARY policy they adopted.

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By *eadinthecloudsMan
29 weeks ago

Manchester

"Pretty sure they’re already banned. They do an age check when purchasing these at supermarkets.

As I’ve already mentioned above a it’s a VOLUNTARY policy they adopted. "

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By *CBoyTV/TS
29 weeks ago

Tonypandy

When I was first told I had type 2 diabetes and needed to cut down on sugar and cards it suddenly opened my eyes to all the unhealthy "food" items sold in supermarkets. Excluding fresh produce nearly every packet and tinned food contains sugars and chemicals to keep them from going off. High caffeine drinks are nothing compared to the rows dedicated to fizzy drinks and crisps.

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By *illiam101000Man
29 weeks ago

Melton Mowbray

I'm not normally a fan of regulation and banning but due to manufacturers flooding the shelves with so much rubbish I can only agree its a good idea.

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By (user no longer on site)
29 weeks ago

Thought they already had?

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By *hagTonight OP Man
28 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *iddlesticksMan
28 weeks ago

My nan’s spare room.

Simple answer, yes.

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By *itygamesMan
28 weeks ago

should ban em for children and adults , they dont give you energy , just fill ya body with sugar n caffiene so ya become diabetic

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