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"Women are boring these days. Most don't seem to appreciate it anymore " Right? So uptight. Unnecessarily. Bring back the good old days when men would make it obvious they liked you. | |||
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"Women are boring these days. Most don't seem to appreciate it anymore " You can pinch my bottom anytime  | |||
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"Women are boring these days. Most don't seem to appreciate it anymore You can pinch my bottom anytime "Behave yourself  | |||
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"Women are boring these days. Most don't seem to appreciate it anymore Right? So uptight. Unnecessarily. Bring back the good old days when men would make it obvious they liked you. " Absolutely Meli. I'd have pinched your bottom on a busy dancefloor | |||
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"It recently happened to me and we then got chatting, he was a great guy, surely just comfortable with his masculinity, have we taken things too far ? " It's a bit predatorial if I man is doing it to a woman. | |||
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"Are we saying men can’t be men anymore ?" so pinching someone's arse makes you a man?  | |||
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"Are we saying men can’t be men anymore ?" That’s exactly what we’re saying. Men cannot be men. Correct! Correcto! | |||
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"Are we saying men can’t be men anymore ?" Christ alive. Since when was that a defining feature of masculinity? | |||
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"What's a pub please? "In London that’s what we call the sex clubs. Dunno about where you are though | |||
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"Are we saying men can’t be men anymore ? Christ alive. Since when was that a defining feature of masculinity?" 90s | |||
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"What's a pub please?
In London that’s what we call the sex clubs. Dunno about where you are though"And it's a legal requirement to pinch bottoms in them? In | |||
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"What's a pub please?
In London that’s what we call the sex clubs. Dunno about where you are though
And it's a legal requirement to pinch bottoms in them?
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"Women are boring these days. Most don't seem to appreciate it anymore Right? So uptight. Unnecessarily. Bring back the good old days when men would make it obvious they liked you. " I am guessing you were very receptive to those guys who used to grind against you on the dance floor. It always worked out so well for them, guaranteed shag everytime  | |||
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Oh no! Not without consent! We’re not barbaric down here"Ahhhhhh...Thank you Pickle. Got it. You go out to this "pub" thing. You don't pinch bums. Unless someone you've never met before comes up and declares, out of nowhere, "You have permission to pinch my bum!!! Would you like a peanut too?". Is there somewhere for washing hands after? Some bums are a bit farty. I like you humans - you're cute xxxx | |||
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"I think it’s important to respect people’s boundaries/not invade their personal space. Having said that the lack of viable avenues of interaction in a noisy nightclub probably has seen the decline of organic/natural approaches on a night out; the hand on the shoulder or a lean in to talk. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, it means nights out are less predatory and don’t violate someone’s privacy/space but it does mean that connections are missed/ require more effort/ positive action and reinforcement from the other party. E.g I’d never inflict my presence on a woman on a night out/ approach/touch her, a shared smile, eyes interlocking and a fleeting flirt is all it’ll ever be unless she approaches me/ takes action. Although maybe that’s me being timid/shy or realistic about the chances a lass would be interested in me… Maybe that explains why I’m still single at 33 "I’m still the quiet one in a social situation and I’m married, yes I’ve been lucky on the club scene in the past. I prefer now to chat with the wife and others to see where it leads…. Always happy to chat and help others out especially if they are just starting out and need a supporting couple…. | |||
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"Some have no sense of proportion. I was a glass collector at the 'grab a granny' night in the early nineties. Getting groped whilst collecting glasses filled with cigarette butts was standard. I'd say 4-5 gropes on average per circuit as it got to toward the end of the night. £2.50 an hour and a face full of lippy hey who can complain! They were 'just having a laugh' with me." Yeah but that's ok because 'men like that sort of thing'.  | |||
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"Nah. That’s some weird behaviour. People did that?" You'd be amazed at what people did. | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. " It may have been just to stop himself from bumping into you and was just concerned about his daughter  | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. " Innocent as it may sound I still find this creepy I'm afraid. | |||
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"Are we saying men can’t be men anymore ?" I'll be honest, I don't think anyone is stopping men being men anymore, if pinching a strangers bum is the route to a man feeling like a man, I think that man needs to seek some professional help | |||
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"Nah. That’s some weird behaviour. People did that? You'd be amazed at what people did. " Sounds a dodgy world to be a woman.  | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. It may have been just to stop himself from bumping into you and was just concerned about his daughter "That's when a person says "excuse me" | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. Innocent as it may sound I still find this creepy I'm afraid." It was extremely creepy. I was just shocked and horrified he out his hands on my waist as if we were very well acquainted. I felt my personal space was violated. | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. Innocent as it may sound I still find this creepy I'm afraid. It was extremely creepy. I was just shocked and horrified he out his hands on my waist as if we were very well acquainted. I felt my personal space was violated. " Yea. That sounds super icky. I guess these people learn this behaviour in their personal lives and just think it’s ok to lay their hands on anyone like that.. | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. Innocent as it may sound I still find this creepy I'm afraid. It was extremely creepy. I was just shocked and horrified he out his hands on my waist as if we were very well acquainted. I felt my personal space was violated. " I wonder if he would have done it to a man. | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. Innocent as it may sound I still find this creepy I'm afraid. It was extremely creepy. I was just shocked and horrified he out his hands on my waist as if we were very well acquainted. I felt my personal space was violated. Yea. That sounds super icky. I guess these people learn this behaviour in their personal lives and just think it’s ok to lay their hands on anyone like that.. " *Some* men think it's acceptable to physically move women out if their way. | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. Innocent as it may sound I still find this creepy I'm afraid. It was extremely creepy. I was just shocked and horrified he out his hands on my waist as if we were very well acquainted. I felt my personal space was violated. " It was, like nicecouple said excuse me would have been the thing to say. | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. Innocent as it may sound I still find this creepy I'm afraid. It was extremely creepy. I was just shocked and horrified he out his hands on my waist as if we were very well acquainted. I felt my personal space was violated. It was, like nicecouple said excuse me would have been the thing to say." He was kind enough to say, sorry just helping my daughter off the climbing frame. The thing was I was meters away from the climbing frame and in no way in his way. | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. Innocent as it may sound I still find this creepy I'm afraid. It was extremely creepy. I was just shocked and horrified he out his hands on my waist as if we were very well acquainted. I felt my personal space was violated. It was, like nicecouple said excuse me would have been the thing to say. He was kind enough to say, sorry just helping my daughter off the climbing frame. The thing was I was meters away from the climbing frame and in no way in his way. "Just an excuse for his predatory behaviour. | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. Innocent as it may sound I still find this creepy I'm afraid. It was extremely creepy. I was just shocked and horrified he out his hands on my waist as if we were very well acquainted. I felt my personal space was violated. It was, like nicecouple said excuse me would have been the thing to say. He was kind enough to say, sorry just helping my daughter off the climbing frame. The thing was I was meters away from the climbing frame and in no way in his way. "He wasn't being kind. He was employing the age old strategy of doing something wrong them putting you in the position of having to accept his bad behaviour because he apologised. | |||
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"Are we saying men can’t be men anymore ?" Yes, that's exactly what we're saying. | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. Innocent as it may sound I still find this creepy I'm afraid. It was extremely creepy. I was just shocked and horrified he out his hands on my waist as if we were very well acquainted. I felt my personal space was violated. It was, like nicecouple said excuse me would have been the thing to say. He was kind enough to say, sorry just helping my daughter off the climbing frame. The thing was I was meters away from the climbing frame and in no way in his way.
He wasn't being kind. He was employing the age old strategy of doing something wrong them putting you in the position of having to accept his bad behaviour because he apologised.
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"I think it’s important to respect people’s boundaries/not invade their personal space. Having said that the lack of viable avenues of interaction in a noisy nightclub probably has seen the decline of organic/natural approaches on a night out; the hand on the shoulder or a lean in to talk. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, it means nights out are less predatory and don’t violate someone’s privacy/space but it does mean that connections are missed/ require more effort/ positive action and reinforcement from the other party. E.g I’d never inflict my presence on a woman on a night out/ approach/touch her, a shared smile, eyes interlocking and a fleeting flirt is all it’ll ever be unless she approaches me/ takes action. Although maybe that’s me being timid/shy or realistic about the chances a lass would be interested in me… Maybe that explains why I’m still single at 33 "A faint heart never shagged a fair maiden….. | |||
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"To add to Bella's experience, I find men are particularly prone to thinking they can move my wheelchair and touch it without asking. It happens far more often with men than women. When you shout and tell them to stop/get off, you're treated like you're making a fuss over nothing. The wheelchair is my legs. Touch my legs and you get my wrath. " How the fuck do they think that’s ok? I’d definitely find that really demeaning. | |||
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"No-one pinches my bum anymore. Access issues. " They should also keep their hands off of your handles.  | |||
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"A few months back, at a museum, a random man out his hands around my waist as he walked around me to grab his daughter off a climbing frame. I was really perplexed. Innocent as it may sound I still find this creepy I'm afraid. It was extremely creepy. I was just shocked and horrified he out his hands on my waist as if we were very well acquainted. I felt my personal space was violated. It was, like nicecouple said excuse me would have been the thing to say. He was kind enough to say, sorry just helping my daughter off the climbing frame. The thing was I was meters away from the climbing frame and in no way in his way.
He wasn't being kind. He was employing the age old strategy of doing something wrong them putting you in the position of having to accept his bad behaviour because he apologised.
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"Mmm no because that is sexual assault. Not really that hard to understand is it? This also applies to swinging clubs too (as some folk seem to think it’s ok in a club as everyone is there for the same thing, right?) "In clubs, I find it is the women more than men that randomly go around grabbing people. Or at least me. The number of times women randomly have grabbed a tit or my bum walking up or down stairs in clubs… | |||
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"To add to Bella's experience, I find men are particularly prone to thinking they can move my wheelchair and touch it without asking. It happens far more often with men than women. When you shout and tell them to stop/get off, you're treated like you're making a fuss over nothing. The wheelchair is my legs. Touch my legs and you get my wrath. How the fuck do they think that’s ok? I’d definitely find that really demeaning. " I really don't know. It's very annoying. | |||
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"Mmm no because that is sexual assault. Not really that hard to understand is it? This also applies to swinging clubs too (as some folk seem to think it’s ok in a club as everyone is there for the same thing, right?)
In clubs, I find it is the women more than men that randomly go around grabbing people. Or at least me. The number of times women randomly have grabbed a tit or my bum walking up or down stairs in clubs…"Same rules apply, I’d suggest you report it to staff next time it happens. | |||
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"So,pinching bums randomly is no longer allowed but wolf whistling a random piece of totty you see in the streets is still fine, yeah ? "No  | |||
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"Some have no sense of proportion. I was a glass collector at the 'grab a granny' night in the early nineties. Getting groped whilst collecting glasses filled with cigarette butts was standard. I'd say 4-5 gropes on average per circuit as it got to toward the end of the night. £2.50 an hour and a face full of lippy hey who can complain! They were 'just having a laugh' with me. Yeah but that's ok because 'men like that sort of thing'. "Or even 15 year old boys. Dancing queen still gives me the shivers. 
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"It’s creepy have some bloody respect for the ladies. There not pieces of meat. " *They're | |||
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"Mmm no because that is sexual assault. Not really that hard to understand is it? This also applies to swinging clubs too (as some folk seem to think it’s ok in a club as everyone is there for the same thing, right?) "It should apply in clubs but I've definitely had guys think it doesn't. A hand on my leg, on my back, a foot against my leg in the hot tub, trying to touch my hand,touching my hair. They were all men, I've never actually had a woman in a club touch me without consent. | |||
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"Mmm no because that is sexual assault. Not really that hard to understand is it? This also applies to swinging clubs too (as some folk seem to think it’s ok in a club as everyone is there for the same thing, right?)
It should apply in clubs but I've definitely had guys think it doesn't. A hand on my leg, on my back, a foot against my leg in the hot tub, trying to touch my hand,touching my hair. They were all men, I've never actually had a woman in a club touch me without consent. "Most of my encounters of people touching me inappropriately without consent are with men too. | |||
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"There are times when a good old-fashioned goose is okay. (I didn’t realise until recently that not everybody calls bum-pinching ‘goosing’. Maybe I’m old-fashioned, or maybe it was a Yorkshire thing?) It’s okay when you’re good friends. Or when consent is otherwise implied. I’ll always remember being goosed on the way up some stairs in a nightclub and turning round to see a girl I *really* fancied grinning and giggling at me. We snogged at the top of those stairs and it was a delight." Did you goose her means something a tad different 'round are way'. | |||
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"There are times when a good old-fashioned goose is okay. (I didn’t realise until recently that not everybody calls bum-pinching ‘goosing’. Maybe I’m old-fashioned, or maybe it was a Yorkshire thing?) It’s okay when you’re good friends. Or when consent is otherwise implied. I’ll always remember being goosed on the way up some stairs in a nightclub and turning round to see a girl I *really* fancied grinning and giggling at me. We snogged at the top of those stairs and it was a delight." ‘Goosing’ down here, was more an approach from behind and putting hands either side of waist and giving a little squeeze. I imagine the terms fall in use has corresponded with the decline in the practice. | |||
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"Pinch is rare. Grabbing a handful as you walk past in a busy bar happens all the time. Rubbing elbows against tits seems a weird new thing too. " 'tit elbow' dates back to the 80s. | |||
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"Pinch is rare. Grabbing a handful as you walk past in a busy bar happens all the time. Rubbing elbows against tits seems a weird new thing too. 'tit elbow' dates back to the 80s." Oh yes definitely, back in the 80’s I remember the elbow/ nipple interface in the crowded pub. When I say remember, obviously I mean remember being told about such things, I would never have done that, ya know, just for clarity, like. | |||
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"Pinch is rare. Grabbing a handful as you walk past in a busy bar happens all the time. Rubbing elbows against tits seems a weird new thing too. 'tit elbow' dates back to the 80s." Yes, I experienced it in nightclubs when I was able bodied. You'd give a good elbow jab back for good measure | |||
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"Pinch is rare. Grabbing a handful as you walk past in a busy bar happens all the time. Rubbing elbows against tits seems a weird new thing too. " You need VAR to determine if it was elbow to tit or tit to elbow though. Not all venues have VAR installed. | |||
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"Pinch is rare. Grabbing a handful as you walk past in a busy bar happens all the time. Rubbing elbows against tits seems a weird new thing too. You need VAR to determine if it was elbow to tit or tit to elbow though. Not all venues have VAR installed. " Sans VAR, you must rely on the decision of the assistant referee/linesperson. | |||
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"Pinch is rare. Grabbing a handful as you walk past in a busy bar happens all the time. Rubbing elbows against tits seems a weird new thing too. You need VAR to determine if it was elbow to tit or tit to elbow though. Not all venues have VAR installed. Sans VAR, you must rely on the decision of the assistant referee/linesperson. " Correction. Grabbing arses is a man’s sport so therefore it’s LINESMAN | |||
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"Pinch is rare. Grabbing a handful as you walk past in a busy bar happens all the time. Rubbing elbows against tits seems a weird new thing too. You need VAR to determine if it was elbow to tit or tit to elbow though. Not all venues have VAR installed. Sans VAR, you must rely on the decision of the assistant referee/linesperson. Correction. Grabbing arses is a man’s sport so therefore it’s LINESMAN "Negative, captain. Assistant refs can be any gender in the 21st century | |||
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"Are we saying men can’t be men anymore ?" This is what you class as being a man assaulting women? a lesson in consent is maybe required. No fucking wonder this sites turned me vagiterian | |||
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"Pinch is rare. Grabbing a handful as you walk past in a busy bar happens all the time. Rubbing elbows against tits seems a weird new thing too. You need VAR to determine if it was elbow to tit or tit to elbow though. Not all venues have VAR installed. Sans VAR, you must rely on the decision of the assistant referee/linesperson. Correction. Grabbing arses is a man’s sport so therefore it’s LINESMAN
Negative, captain. Assistant refs can be any gender in the 21st century "Not in this pub | |||
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"Pinch is rare. Grabbing a handful as you walk past in a busy bar happens all the time. Rubbing elbows against tits seems a weird new thing too. You need VAR to determine if it was elbow to tit or tit to elbow though. Not all venues have VAR installed. Sans VAR, you must rely on the decision of the assistant referee/linesperson. Correction. Grabbing arses is a man’s sport so therefore it’s LINESMAN
Negative, captain. Assistant refs can be any gender in the 21st century
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"Only if I can boot them in the balls in return. Keep your hands to yourself." An unwanted physical contact being returned to owner. A classic example of a behaviour illiciting an elevated reaction. Same as if I walked up to a guy in a pub and spat in his pint.. I can expect a negative reaction. | |||
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