FabSwingers.com forum: Duncan Smith

By *eady_eddy OP Man
over a year ago

Liverpool

Is it any wonder he was given a vote of no confidence when he was leader of the Conservative party. Now, he reckons he can live on £53 benefits a week. How do these people become MPs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just another tory cunt.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

" How do these people become MPs?"

People vote for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

£38 for breakfast and a £15 taxi to his father in laws

simple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bear in mind his bonus of 100k plus via tax rebate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He is a guy just trying to sort out the country's huge welfare bill. Do you realise that £1 in every £3 goes on benefit payments. If the Government doesn't tackle the problem now it is only going to get unmanageable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"£38 for breakfast and a £15 taxi to his father in laws

simple

His father in law is Baron Cottesloe. IDS lives in a two million pound house on his estate,rent three. He has 3 spare bedrooms

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

This is a day to note for the history books:

Universal Credit

Bedroom 'subsidy' loss

CCGs instead of PCTs

The beginning of the end of Beveridge?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go to www.change.org and sign the petition asking him to live up to his claim..

40,000 signatures and climbing..

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"He is a guy just trying to sort out the country's huge welfare bill. Do you realise that £1 in every £3 goes on benefit payments. If the Government doesn't tackle the problem now it is only going to get unmanageable."

In work benefits and the aged population benefits make up the bulk of this. Older people vote so they are protected from many of these changes.

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By *eady_eddy OP Man
over a year ago

Liverpool

His party are trying to create a system whereas more people have to rely on benefits!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"This is a day to note for the history books:

Universal Credit

Bedroom 'subsidy' loss

CCGs instead of PCTs

The beginning of the end of Beveridge?"

Anyone would think it was a nasty April Fool joke

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

He might manage it for a week or even two, lets see if he could live on it every week for a year.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"He might manage it for a week or even two, lets see if he could live on it every week for a year."

That's the issue, isn't it? You can just about manage if the cupboard is already full, the car has petrol and your clothes, shoes and sheets are all intact. When you need something new it will become almost impossible.

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By *eady_eddy OP Man
over a year ago

Liverpool

My viagra bill comes to £53 pw !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My viagra bill comes to £53 pw !!"

I'll give ya 10% discount....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Go to www.change.org and sign the petition asking him to live up to his claim..

40,000 signatures and climbing.."

Just signed it & no I don't get benefits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" How do these people become MPs?

People vote for them."

... regrettably....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He might manage it for a week or even two, lets see if he could live on it every week for a year.

Michael Portillo and Matthew Parris both tried it - and couldn't - and it was a life changing experience for them.

IDS won't take up the challenge. Fiver says he won't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To become an MP ......no qualities at all but a good job if you suck......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To become an MP ......no qualities at all but a good job if you suck......"

Explains how Gideon Osborne got where he is then....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it any wonder he was given a vote of no confidence when he was leader of the Conservative party. Now, he reckons he can live on £53 benefits a week. How do these people become MPs?"

Ohhhhhhh dont get me started on this one.......sancitmonious prick without a fecking clue.........like the rest of the bloody tories

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By *illdeeCouple
over a year ago

nr Edinburgh

"Go to www.change.org and sign the petition asking him to live up to his claim..

40,000 signatures and climbing.."

Thanks for that. In the 5 minutes I was on the site it looked like they were collecting signatures at the rate of about 1 a second!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do we really need another thread on the same subject?

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By *illdeeCouple
over a year ago

nr Edinburgh

"Do we really need another thread on the same subject?

This is the original thread!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do we really need another thread on the same subject?

This is the original thread!!"

Research

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Do we really need another thread on the same subject?

We should take every opportunity to give IDS a good verbal kicking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do we really need another thread on the same subject?

We should take every opportunity to give IDS a good verbal kicking."

And a few more to give Scottish Crematoriums a thorough pasting for telling parents of dead babies there were no ashes to hand over when in fact they've been scattering them since 1968.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Do we really need another thread on the same subject?

We should take every opportunity to give IDS a good verbal kicking.

And a few more to give Scottish Crematoriums a thorough pasting for telling parents of dead babies there were no ashes to hand over when in fact they've been scattering them since 1968."

the complete bastard..

is there no level to which he wont stoop..

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Do we really need another thread on the same subject?

We should take every opportunity to give IDS a good verbal kicking.

And a few more to give Scottish Crematoriums a thorough pasting for telling parents of dead babies there were no ashes to hand over when in fact they've been scattering them since 1968."

As non squiteurs go, that's a cracker.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do we really need another thread on the same subject?

We should take every opportunity to give IDS a good verbal kicking.

And a few more to give Scottish Crematoriums a thorough pasting for telling parents of dead babies there were no ashes to hand over when in fact they've been scattering them since 1968.

As non squiteurs go, that's a cracker."

given that you're Scots it's almost an Ad Hominem

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do we really need another thread on the same subject?

We should take every opportunity to give IDS a good verbal kicking.

And a few more to give Scottish Crematoriums a thorough pasting for telling parents of dead babies there were no ashes to hand over when in fact they've been scattering them since 1968.

As non squiteurs go, that's a cracker.

given that you're Scots it's almost an Ad Hominem

Just thought I'd slip that one in as there's no thread about it.

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By *obandruthCouple
over a year ago

wolverhampton

tories always out for there self always have beeen always will be there a fxxking joke

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"This is a day to note for the history books:

Universal Credit

Bedroom 'subsidy' loss

CCGs instead of PCTs

The beginning of the end of Beveridge?"

NO. I would say the re-birth of Beveridge, by getting the system back to its original intentions.

Beveridge argued that this system would provide a minimum standard of living "below which no one should be allowed to fall". It recommended that the government should find ways of fighting the five 'Giant Evils' of Want, Disease, Ignorance, Squalor and Idleness.

Nowhere in the Beveridge report did allow for or even mention the system being used as an alternative lifestyle, as is the case with many these days. Nor did it mention that the latest electrical gadgets (not that there were many around at that time but hey ho) and holidays to the seaside (Blackpool then, Benidorm Etc. now) should be part of any 'entitlement'

I think Beveridge and Attlee (two thoroughly decent and honest men) would be appalled by the welfare and benefit system of 2013 and would be at the forefront of reform.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"This is a day to note for the history books:

Universal Credit

Bedroom 'subsidy' loss

CCGs instead of PCTs

The beginning of the end of Beveridge?

NO. I would say the re-birth of Beveridge, by getting the system back to its original intentions.

I think Beveridge and Attlee (two thoroughly decent and honest men) would be appalled by the welfare and benefit system of 2013 and would be at the forefront of reform.

When I was on benefits I most certainly could not have afforded a holiday - not even a day in Blackpool - in a million years. Thankfully, the park museums, library and art gallery were all free. But with latest cutbacks how long will this last? My daughter was the most well-read child on the street where I lived in the 80s. New library books every single week.

Today, however, people have things thrust under their noses far more - look at all the loan companies, Bright House, etc. Parents feel like failures if they cannot get things for their children - especially at Christmas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it is totally exaggerated. it is not even important, it just hitting the poorer people because they will not hit the financial elite. the banks got away with it, the major big big banks that is, they willing committed fraud yet what did they say, "we made mistakes so we are sorry" or another is "errors were made",

what a wonderful Democracy.

The Tories like to hit the benefits,

all this money you see being taken out of various departments ie ministry of defence/ministry of justice who do you think it is going to....all the bailouts guess who is making a lot of money from them. why do you think the financial(fraudster) markets want them, even the bank of England has made money off the backs of them.

Little things needed to be changed about the benefit system but not a lot,

They could help people by forcing down rents and house prices, In London and the South east there is a massive housing bubble that will burst at some point.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

They could help people by forcing down rents and house prices, In London and the South east there is a massive housing bubble that will burst at some point.

That is a whole new argument, but you do make a fair point.

One of the main intentions of the housing benefit cap was to put some downward pressure on London rents. Many landlords knew only too well that they could ask what they wanted for properties in the capital in the knowledge that housing benefit would pay whatever the price.

With mass immigration mainly focused on London and the south east demand was always going to outstrip supply with the obvious consequences.

Once the cap kicks in fully and after a short period of getting used to it London rents will start to fall.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Go to www.change.org and sign the petition asking him to live up to his claim..

40,000 signatures and climbing..

Thanks for that. In the 5 minutes I was on the site it looked like they were collecting signatures at the rate of about 1 a second!!

Now around 440,000 signatures.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Go to www.change.org and sign the petition asking him to live up to his claim..

40,000 signatures and climbing..

Thanks for that. In the 5 minutes I was on the site it looked like they were collecting signatures at the rate of about 1 a second!!

So roughly 0.7% of the population give a shit. That's good to know.

Now around 440,000 signatures."

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By *orthwest_cplCouple
over a year ago

Stretford

So roughly 0.7% of the population give a shit. That's good to know. "

Since the government are prepared to debate some petitions from their own website that reach 100,000 I would have thought 440,000 was a significant number to reach in less than a week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So roughly 0.7% of the population give a shit. That's good to know.

Since the government are prepared to debate some petitions from their own website that reach 100,000 I would have thought 440,000 was a significant number to reach in less than a week."

And that's what we want our so called overpaid politicians to debate is it? I'd rather they concentrated on important matters like, maybe how to run the country?

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By *orthwest_cplCouple
over a year ago

Stretford

So roughly 0.7% of the population give a shit. That's good to know.

Since the government are prepared to debate some petitions from their own website that reach 100,000 I would have thought 440,000 was a significant number to reach in less than a week.

And that's what we want our so called overpaid politicians to debate is it? I'd rather they concentrated on important matters like, maybe how to run the country? "

I don't think I said anything about it being debated. I said that the government seem impressed enough by 100,000 signatures on their own website petitions to be willing to debate in the house. (The IDS petition is not on the government's petition website so would not be debated.)

By those figures 400,000 signatures achieved in a week is not inconsiderable. You may scoff at 0.7% but the government deem a quarter of that percentage to be significant.

Would I want it debated in the house? No. Would I like to see an out of touch, smarmy politician try to live on £53 for a year? I certainly would - if they televised it it would get better viewing figures than x factor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He became an MP through the jobcentre like all jobseeker's ?. But did he get £53 a week to live on ?

No he belongs to an exclusive club that very few can join.

If he can live on £53 a week why is he getting his high salary, expenses and all the freebies that are called perks.

Politicians need to get back to grass roots, they will not be getting my vote at the next election.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Getting his arse kicked on Andrew Neil.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Is it any wonder he was given a vote of no confidence when he was leader of the Conservative party. Now, he reckons he can live on £53 benefits a week. How do these people become MPs?"

He can. As can anyone. £53, one week, no problem...

What he did not say was he could live on £53 a week for and extended period...

I know I am splitting hairs, but that's what politicians do.

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