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" Does it bother you who someone choses to vote for?" I would never decry someones choice to do that. I guess their argument would be they would not find that person attractive for their political views which is a preference. Myself unless they had some extreme views that were just abhorrent, I couldn't care what political party they find appealing if they were a nice person to spend time with. | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles say along the lines "if you vote Tory, pass me by". When it comes to meeting someone new, why do politics come into play? Does it bother you who someone choses to vote for?" narrow mindedness maybe  | |||
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"Some people feel very strongly about how someone’s politics defines their nature (to be fair, it often does). Not to fan the flames but I’d feel like I was betraying my integrity sharing intimate pleasure with someone that tacitly supports the things I’m against etc. " I've never felt that strongly about any political party and have voted for both of the big two in the past. But I'd rather be challenged than surround myself with people that agree with me all of the time. | |||
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"Some people feel very strongly about how someone’s politics defines their nature (to be fair, it often does). Not to fan the flames but I’d feel like I was betraying my integrity sharing intimate pleasure with someone that tacitly supports the things I’m against etc. I've never felt that strongly about any political party and have voted for both of the big two in the past. But I'd rather be challenged than surround myself with people that agree with me all of the time." Hear, hear. | |||
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"Some people feel very strongly about how someone’s politics defines their nature (to be fair, it often does). Not to fan the flames but I’d feel like I was betraying my integrity sharing intimate pleasure with someone that tacitly supports the things I’m against etc. I've never felt that strongly about any political party and have voted for both of the big two in the past. But I'd rather be challenged than surround myself with people that agree with me all of the time. Hear, hear."  | |||
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"It doesn’t. And given the vast majority of people in the UK let alone on fab do nothing more politically motivated than nod or not at whichever talking head is on tv, it’s posturing. An opinion is not a personality. " You're labour aren't you omg | |||
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"An opinion is not a personality. " I like that I think I'm going to borrow it. | |||
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"It doesn’t. And given the vast majority of people in the UK let alone on fab do nothing more politically motivated than nod or not at whichever talking head is on tv, it’s posturing. An opinion is not a personality. You're labour aren't you omg "You must be Lib Dem as any Tory would use a capital L for the noun | |||
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"It doesn’t. And given the vast majority of people in the UK let alone on fab do nothing more politically motivated than nod or not at whichever talking head is on tv, it’s posturing. An opinion is not a personality. You're labour aren't you omg
You must be Lib Dem as any Tory would use a capital L for the noun "lol no I'm a true blue | |||
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"It doesn’t. And given the vast majority of people in the UK let alone on fab do nothing more politically motivated than nod or not at whichever talking head is on tv, it’s posturing. An opinion is not a personality. You're labour aren't you omg
You must be Lib Dem as any Tory would use a capital L for the noun lol no I'm a true blue "I’m glad you feel this is a safe space Fred | |||
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"I'm more likely to avoid folk who feel the need to have politics or to decry a particular party in their profile. " This 100%  | |||
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"It doesn’t. And given the vast majority of people in the UK let alone on fab do nothing more politically motivated than nod or not at whichever talking head is on tv, it’s posturing. An opinion is not a personality. You're labour aren't you omg
You must be Lib Dem as any Tory would use a capital L for the noun lol no I'm a true blue
I’m glad you feel this is a safe space Fred "lol I've never voted in my life hence why we have Rishi in power | |||
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"Some people feel very strongly about how someone’s politics defines their nature (to be fair, it often does). Not to fan the flames but I’d feel like I was betraying my integrity sharing intimate pleasure with someone that tacitly supports the things I’m against etc. I've never felt that strongly about any political party and have voted for both of the big two in the past. But I'd rather be challenged than surround myself with people that agree with me all of the time." Echo chambers are indeed real, I’m conscious of those. Some suffer greatly at the hands of our politics and those that have done, or strongly relate to those that have done, and aren’t likely to view supporters of those politics in a positive light. I don’t bring politics into it overtly but if there are glaringly obvious signs that the person I’m speaking with is a Tory, I’m out. It’s their prerogative to have their own politics, it’s my prerogative to walk away. | |||
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"It doesn’t. And given the vast majority of people in the UK let alone on fab do nothing more politically motivated than nod or not at whichever talking head is on tv, it’s posturing. An opinion is not a personality. " Having political beliefs that don’t manifest as direct action is not posturing. I side with Palestine, I don’t have to grab an AK47 and jump on a boat to the West Bank to have that opinion validated. Opinions are entirely a personality but they do give insight to someone’s personality, how can it not? | |||
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"Some people feel very strongly about how someone’s politics defines their nature (to be fair, it often does). Not to fan the flames but I’d feel like I was betraying my integrity sharing intimate pleasure with someone that tacitly supports the things I’m against etc. I've never felt that strongly about any political party and have voted for both of the big two in the past. But I'd rather be challenged than surround myself with people that agree with me all of the time. Echo chambers are indeed real, I’m conscious of those. Some suffer greatly at the hands of our politics and those that have done, or strongly relate to those that have done, and aren’t likely to view supporters of those politics in a positive light. I don’t bring politics into it overtly but if there are glaringly obvious signs that the person I’m speaking with is a Tory, I’m out. It’s their prerogative to have their own politics, it’s my prerogative to walk away. " Schoffel Fleece Gilet = avoid | |||
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"There isn't even a hair's breadth between the two major parties. People who believe the values of the members differ in any way fail to examine the major parties at any depth likely to reveal anything at all and just decide their allegiance to a party according to their own biases. " My ex's mum voted conservative because she said "thats where the money is " | |||
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Same as on here, if we were chatting to anyone and they turned the conversation to politics, we'd be out....he says....while answering a forum post about politics  | |||
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"And this is why I avoid politics with folk on here - the lecturing "To be fair, I’ve tried to stay on point. I’m not debating whose politics are correct, I’m arguing that politics are a justified factor in developing relationships. I know you’re not aiming your comment at me (I agree with you, descending into Left vs Right will never end) | |||
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"They should put in their bio "if you don't agree with me, pass me by" " I think you might trivialising a little there | |||
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"Schoffel Fleece Gilet = avoid " | |||
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"Some people feel very strongly about how someone’s politics defines their nature (to be fair, it often does). Not to fan the flames but I’d feel like I was betraying my integrity sharing intimate pleasure with someone that tacitly supports the things I’m against etc. " All of this!  | |||
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"I think for me, it’s less about how people vote. It’s about their opinions on certain things. Especially relating to my experience. And my experience isn’t political. Having said that, I *PERSONALLY* feel as though someone that votes Tory in spite of racist leaders in the past, racist policies, what they did to the windrush generation recently and a racist party donor that said what he did about Diane Abbott, would not be someone I would be willing to get naked with. It’s about having freedom to share your body and sex with people that you value and that value you too. My opinion on sex is that it isn’t something I want to just share with anyone. And the stipulations I put in place are, as annoying as it is for some, about the political perspectives that people have. But like I said, it’s mostly about opinions on certain things relating to my own experience and the experiences of others that I love. Basically, their opinions on and support for marginalised communities is important to me. Where possible anyway. And the forums give great insight into that. "I came to say the same thing, though far less eloquently. *On the face of it* I don't care about which party someone votes for but I do care about their values and if I find those offensive then I don't want to get down and dirty with them | |||
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"What if I dress like a Tory, but vote Labour?" I feel like this is you in a nutshell | |||
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"I (Tim) probably wouldn't marry someone with wildly opposing views on life, but as an above poster pointed out, it's good to challenge your opinions rather than live in an echo chamber. That said, if we were to meet anyone in a club, and the conversation turned to politics, we would walk away, why would we be at a club and want to talk about politics?
Same as on here, if we were chatting to anyone and they turned the conversation to politics, we'd be out....he says....while answering a forum post about politics "Exactly this. I have my political preference, like most folk do. But I'm not wanting to listen to strangers on their soap box - even if I agree with you. I come here for fun. | |||
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"And this is why I avoid politics with folk on here - the lecturing
To be fair, I’ve tried to stay on point. I’m not debating whose politics are correct, I’m arguing that politics are a justified factor in developing relationships.
I know you’re not aiming your comment at me (I agree with you, descending into Left vs Right will never end) "why would you develop a relationship here? | |||
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"And this is why I avoid politics with folk on here - the lecturing
To be fair, I’ve tried to stay on point. I’m not debating whose politics are correct, I’m arguing that politics are a justified factor in developing relationships.
I know you’re not aiming your comment at me (I agree with you, descending into Left vs Right will never end) why would you develop a relationship here? "Why would I not? | |||
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"I find politics one of the most boring subjects in the world. I find people overly obsessed with politics are the kind of people who are incapable or unwilling to change anything themselves and expect a bunch of Muppets in London to fix the world for them. So they’re a big no for me, regardless of their party. " Political issues I agree, most are pretty dull. Politics itself though, fascinating. That’s just me though, I enjoy engaging about it but I know from experience you’re teabagging a hornets nest if you bring it up regardless of your company or environment. | |||
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"And this is why I avoid politics with folk on here - the lecturing
To be fair, I’ve tried to stay on point. I’m not debating whose politics are correct, I’m arguing that politics are a justified factor in developing relationships.
I know you’re not aiming your comment at me (I agree with you, descending into Left vs Right will never end) why would you develop a relationship here?
Why would I not? "Well i would just asking why you would want to develop a relationship based on politics, i have no interest in politics and sex and politics are not a great team to be honest, do you send messages saying who do you vote for before you meet them? | |||
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"I (Tim) probably wouldn't marry someone with wildly opposing views on life, but as an above poster pointed out, it's good to challenge your opinions rather than live in an echo chamber. That said, if we were to meet anyone in a club, and the conversation turned to politics, we would walk away, why would we be at a club and want to talk about politics?
Same as on here, if we were chatting to anyone and they turned the conversation to politics, we'd be out....he says....while answering a forum post about politics
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I have my political preference, like most folk do. But I'm not wanting to listen to strangers on their soap box - even if I agree with you.
I come here for fun. "Here Here | |||
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"And this is why I avoid politics with folk on here - the lecturing
To be fair, I’ve tried to stay on point. I’m not debating whose politics are correct, I’m arguing that politics are a justified factor in developing relationships.
I know you’re not aiming your comment at me (I agree with you, descending into Left vs Right will never end) why would you develop a relationship here?
Why would I not? Well i would just asking why you would want to develop a relationship based on politics, i have no interest in politics and sex and politics are not a great team to be honest, do you send messages saying who do you vote for before you meet them? "I said politics are a justified factor in developing relationships (platonic, professional or romantic) I didn’t say they were necessarily a deciding factor. I was speaking generally about both politics and relationships, sorry if that wasn’t made clear. I did date someone who had very conservative views once because she was really fit and was otherwise a nice person but I always did feel a twinge of hypocrisy for it when she was pissed and talking about asylum seekers being given free Playststions or something equally ridiculous. It didn’t last. | |||
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"Someone who wanted to know my voting preferences who I wasn’t in a relationship with, would be told to mind their own business. Anyone who wanted to tell me theirs would be stopped in their tracks and told not to waste their time as it doesn’t interest me. Cheese on the other hand, well let’s just say that a lacking of love for the Cheese would be a major red flag and possibly termination of all contact "Asking who you vote for, definitely. Very personal and absolutely nobodies business. Voting preferences are a fairly small part of politics as it applies to personality and characteristics though, I can’t vote to tax billionaires back to reality because no party with any chance of winning are advocating it. If they were, I’d vote for them but only out of principle. | |||
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"Someone who wanted to know my voting preferences who I wasn’t in a relationship with, would be told to mind their own business. Anyone who wanted to tell me theirs would be stopped in their tracks and told not to waste their time as it doesn’t interest me. Cheese on the other hand, well let’s just say that a lacking of love for the Cheese would be a major red flag and possibly termination of all contact
Asking who you vote for, definitely. Very personal and absolutely nobodies business.
Voting preferences are a fairly small part of politics as it applies to personality and characteristics though, I can’t vote to tax billionaires back to reality because no party with any chance of winning are advocating it. If they were, I’d vote for them but only out of principle. "What does that say about your personality though? | |||
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A vast spectrum of humanity is found on fab. Some love to debate life, the universe and everything, others just wanna bang. So why not politics?
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"I've seen a few profiles say along the lines "if you vote Tory, pass me by". When it comes to meeting someone new, why do politics come into play? Does it bother you who someone choses to vote for?" I’m guessing some people are politically active/knowledgable/aware, and want others of the same mindset. Providing their party colour matches. Does it bother me? It wouldn’t bother me……UNLESS they started to try and ram it in my face. I have zero interest in politics beyond the basics and knowing that it’s a necessary evil. | |||
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"Someone who wanted to know my voting preferences who I wasn’t in a relationship with, would be told to mind their own business. Anyone who wanted to tell me theirs would be stopped in their tracks and told not to waste their time as it doesn’t interest me. Cheese on the other hand, well let’s just say that a lacking of love for the Cheese would be a major red flag and possibly termination of all contact
Asking who you vote for, definitely. Very personal and absolutely nobodies business.
Voting preferences are a fairly small part of politics as it applies to personality and characteristics though, I can’t vote to tax billionaires back to reality because no party with any chance of winning are advocating it. If they were, I’d vote for them but only out of principle.
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"I would absolutely judge someone who votes Conservative. " How would you know they did? Is that part of your screening process? Not being a dickhead, I’m genuinely curious. | |||
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"I would absolutely judge someone who votes Conservative. How would you know they did? Is that part of your screening process? Not being a dickhead, I’m genuinely curious. " A lot of tories are very vocal on who they support. | |||
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"I would absolutely judge someone who votes Conservative. How would you know they did? Is that part of your screening process? Not being a dickhead, I’m genuinely curious. A lot of tories are very vocal on who they support. " Ah right o. That’s fair enough. | |||
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"I would absolutely judge someone who votes Conservative. " Given the Tories have fucked the country, surely its quite rewarding to fuck a Tory! | |||
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"I think politics as a subject matter reaches far wider than how someone votes. I'd say many topics discussed here fall into the realms of being political. A person's beliefs and values are important to me. Moreso how they formulate them, their experiences, their story. I have friends with some strongly opposed views to my own. However, we have a respect for each others beliefs that's more important to me than agreement. I like people who make me think and can challenge me, explore a subject. I love sex, I don't arbitrarily want to put my penis in people. I want to know the person before I want to have sex with them. I don't see why politics is any less or more of a valid topic of conversation than anything else really." A man after my own heart | |||
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"I don’t think it has that much impact in practice does it? Most people are pretty central in their views and will agree with bits from all parties. No one party really reflects anyone’s views unless you are to the extreme end of that party. If someone is zealotry enough to feel that voting for anything other than what they believe in is grounds to make sweeping generalisations about others then I would suggest they probably want to give their head a wobble and stop being so tribal." I’m not sure calling it tribalism is fair either; that said, if it’s a case “you don’t like my party, well FINE that means I don’t like you!” then yes of course. It’s more about the way it reflects their views generally. Concerning hot potatoes like privatisation, the NHS, police powers and social services etc. the extent and enthusiasm which with someone takes a position on those things does reveal things about their nature, at face value. I can’t really give any examples without being needlessly controversial so I hope the above makes sense. | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles say along the lines "if you vote Tory, pass me by. " Have you really seen that ( face palm) fuck me people are getting more pathetic by the day. The mr | |||
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"Who even discusses politics with someone they want to have sex with? Boring people that's who." Couldn't have said it better myself | |||
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"I would absolutely judge someone who votes Conservative. How would you know they did? Is that part of your screening process? Not being a dickhead, I’m genuinely curious. A lot of tories are very vocal on who they support. " Yep. As are those who vote elsewhere. *only one tends to deter me though.   | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles say along the lines "if you vote Tory, pass me by". When it comes to meeting someone new, why do politics come into play? Does it bother you who someone choses to vote for?" No.Neither in real life either. I normally never bring up party politics on a first meet. No not in the slightest | |||
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"I've never had a political conversation with anyone I've met through fab. Someone's political leanings wouldn't put me off chatting to them but the very fact they felt the need to even bring it up in conversation would. I have zero interest in politics and equally as much interest in anyone who can't have a grown up conversation without bringing up the subject. It's like any other topic that people may be laser focused on and have me confused with someone who might be interested. " Totally agree | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles say along the lines "if you vote Tory, pass me by". When it comes to meeting someone new, why do politics come into play? Does it bother you who someone choses to vote for?" When swinging not at all | |||
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"Who even discusses politics with someone they want to have sex with? Boring people that's who. Couldn't have said it better myself " Lot a self important boring cunts on here these days , what happens to all the shagging lol | |||
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"Who even discusses politics with someone they want to have sex with? Boring people that's who." Yeah baby.  | |||
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"Who even discusses politics with someone they want to have sex with? Boring people that's who." That’s a pretty narrow-minded take don’t you think? | |||
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"Who even discusses politics with someone they want to have sex with? Boring people that's who. That’s a pretty narrow-minded take don’t you think?" No | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles say along the lines "if you vote Tory, pass me by". When it comes to meeting someone new, why do politics come into play? Does it bother you who someone choses to vote for?" Lol, taking the phrase "fuck the T*ries" to a whole new level | |||
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"Who even discusses politics with someone they want to have sex with? Boring people that's who." This x10 | |||
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"Perhaps it's reflective of the recent trends for political ideology to have become more extremist. Brexit also highlighted division and could have meant some became uncomfortable being around some others. " UK politicians are increasingly the following the American model of sifting people into two distinct groups. Culture war tactics. Us vs Them instead of Us for Everyone | |||
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"If voting made a difference or were important us peasants wouldnt be allowed to do it, theyre all the same, i know that little about it or care to even know where i am on the scale lol" Sadly, also true. The system itself is the illusion of choice. There is no true democracy, anarchy reigns. | |||
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"I guess people think it's a way to get the measure of someone I don't see anything wrong with that" Perhaps we should take a vote on it?! | |||
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"If voting made a difference or were important us peasants wouldnt be allowed to do it, theyre all the same, i know that little about it or care to even know where i am on the scale lol" Somewhere between crackpot and tin foil hat maker, just for future reference! Lol | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles say along the lines "if you vote Tory, pass me by". When it comes to meeting someone new, why do politics come into play? Does it bother you who someone choses to vote for?" I have a GE message on my dating profile to get the twats out. I don't want to date a moron | |||
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"Order! Order! " Two portions of salt n pepper ribs, one portion of salt n pepper chicken, beef curry, special fried rices and chips please! | |||
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"Suggest anyone anti-immigrant or pro Brexit skips over us." Consider yourselves skipped | |||
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"I do t see any issue since comparing Labour and the tories is like comparing cat shit and dog shit" But one is bigger, smellier and you're more likely to tread in... | |||
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"If voting made a difference or were important us peasants wouldnt be allowed to do it, theyre all the same, i know that little about it or care to even know where i am on the scale lol Somewhere between crackpot and tin foil hat maker, just for future reference! Lol "oh certainly more the latter haha | |||
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"Ohhh it’s very much a clicky place is the swingers forums *cliquey* " No not cliquey I meant what I put CLICKY | |||
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"Ohhh it’s very much a clicky place is the swingers forums *cliquey* No not cliquey I meant what I put CLICKY " Bloody tories. | |||
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"Ohhh it’s very much a clicky place is the swingers forums *cliquey* No not cliquey I meant what I put CLICKY Bloody tories." Haha yea us bloody torries that would vote Labour if we could actually be arsed voting! Spot on assumption there my friend | |||
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"Ohhh it’s very much a clicky place is the swingers forums *cliquey* No not cliquey I meant what I put CLICKY Bloody tories. Haha yea us bloody torries that would vote Labour if we could actually be arsed voting! Spot on assumption there my friend I ain’t friends with no right wingers!" Just so I’m clear which is left and what is right? I’m practically a none voter! Does that make me a middle man? | |||
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"It's horses for courses. You could have asked "why does it matter whether someone can hold a conversation, when all you care about is getting your dick wet." It just matters to some. Owning a pretty vagina gets you so far but not all of us are animals, some of us are selective. Like it or not, there are certain views I'm incompatible with. Telling me you're happy with Rishi, Boris, Piers Morgan, etc is a red line." I’m not (Owning a pretty vagina gets you so far but not all of us are animals, some of us are selective) Show me that pretty box | |||
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"It's horses for courses. You could have asked "why does it matter whether someone can hold a conversation, when all you care about is getting your dick wet." It just matters to some. Owning a pretty vagina gets you so far but not all of us are animals, some of us are selective. Like it or not, there are certain views I'm incompatible with. Telling me you're happy with Rishi, Boris, Piers Morgan, etc is a red line." but the 3 u just mentioned are basically celebs or actors to sway public opinion with the incentive of money id go as far to say someones music choice makes more of a image of somebody than political view | |||
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"It's horses for courses. You could have asked "why does it matter whether someone can hold a conversation, when all you care about is getting your dick wet." It just matters to some. Owning a pretty vagina gets you so far but not all of us are animals, some of us are selective. Like it or not, there are certain views I'm incompatible with. Telling me you're happy with Rishi, Boris, Piers Morgan, etc is a red line.but the 3 u just mentioned are basically celebs or actors to sway public opinion with the incentive of money id go as far to say someones music choice makes more of a image of somebody than political view " Yaaaqwwwm | |||
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"It's horses for courses. You could have asked "why does it matter whether someone can hold a conversation, when all you care about is getting your dick wet." It just matters to some. Owning a pretty vagina gets you so far but not all of us are animals, some of us are selective. Like it or not, there are certain views I'm incompatible with. Telling me you're happy with Rishi, Boris, Piers Morgan, etc is a red line.but the 3 u just mentioned are basically celebs or actors to sway public opinion with the incentive of money id go as far to say someones music choice makes more of a image of somebody than political view " And I've known people who coupled up though music choice. Metal with metal, pop with pop and so on.  | |||
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"It's horses for courses. You could have asked "why does it matter whether someone can hold a conversation, when all you care about is getting your dick wet." It just matters to some. Owning a pretty vagina gets you so far but not all of us are animals, some of us are selective. Like it or not, there are certain views I'm incompatible with. Telling me you're happy with Rishi, Boris, Piers Morgan, etc is a red line.but the 3 u just mentioned are basically celebs or actors to sway public opinion with the incentive of money id go as far to say someones music choice makes more of a image of somebody than political view And I've known people who coupled up though music choice. Metal with metal, pop with pop and so on. "Punk rock tried to kill the metal.... | |||
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" And I've known people who coupled up though music choice. Metal with metal, pop with pop and so on. "Yeah but it never lasts. Just look at Scott and Charlene, he’s gay and she’s a gay icon! | |||
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" And I've known people who coupled up though music choice. Metal with metal, pop with pop and so on.
Yeah but it never lasts.
Just look at Scott and Charlene, he’s gay and she’s a gay icon!"
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Yeah but it never lasts.
Just look at Scott and Charlene, he’s gay and she’s a gay icon!
I was there when they got married "Me too. I honestly remember crying. The shame. | |||
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"I've seen a few profiles say along the lines "if you vote Tory, pass me by". When it comes to meeting someone new, why do politics come into play? Does it bother you who someone choses to vote for?" Because for some they can almost guarantee they won't get on with anyone who is a Tory. | |||
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"Wow this descended quickly " . Meh, it's political
Sadly, the reality is that currently it doesn't really matter which party you actually vote for these days... Same dog, different head, and it has been that way for decades. Nowt will actually change on a surface level either party that gets voted into power. The issues are too far ingrained, the underlying rot too set in. And we can never have a major reform without a major reset-shake that would fuck the country... Sooo, we'll all vote one way or another. And whichever party will make token policies/changes. Mostly we'll continue the same because of any party rocks the boat too much the public kicks back... Yada, yada... The UK is no less a one party system than a lot of other countries. We just love to think we have choice | |||
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"I admire the French. French Politician - We are increasing the tax on bananas by 0.5% French Public - Riots in the street. English Politician - Your pensions are now gone, if you’re unemployed for more than a week you’ll be euthanised and the police now have the power to slap you if make eye contact with them. English Public - I don’t know much about all that but it’s probably because of genders. " French teenager - I wanna bang my teacher French teacher - I wanna bang my student (although I'm married) French president - I'd prefer you not to scrutiny the fact I'm married to my former teacher... But they make great cheese | |||
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"I admire the French. French Politician - We are increasing the tax on bananas by 0.5% French Public - Riots in the street. English Politician - Your pensions are now gone, if you’re unemployed for more than a week you’ll be euthanised and the police now have the power to slap you if make eye contact with them. English Public - I don’t know much about all that but it’s probably because of genders. French teenager - I wanna bang my teacher French teacher - I wanna bang my student (although I'm married) French president - I'd prefer you not to scrutiny the fact I'm married to my former teacher... But they make great cheese "Oh yeh their politicians are barely any different than ours. I admire how the French just kick off and f*ck sh*t up until the party in power meets their demands….that’s what they’re actually meant to do. | |||
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"Why does politics play a part on a swingers site?" Because politics play a role in every part of your life. Including sex. And choosing to ignore that doesn’t make it any less true. | |||
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"And choosing to ignore that doesn’t make it any less true." Of course, choosing to ignore it is a valid choice.* . . (*And, ironically, a political one.) | |||
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"Why does politics play a part on a swingers site? Because politics play a role in every part of your life. Including sex. And choosing to ignore that doesn’t make it any less true." Wot RTG sed. | |||
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"Why does politics play a part on a swingers site? Because politics play a role in every part of your life. Including sex. And choosing to ignore that doesn’t make it any less true." Can you explain further, RTG? | |||
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"Why does politics play a part on a swingers site? Because politics play a role in every part of your life. Including sex. And choosing to ignore that doesn’t make it any less true." It plays no role in my life and never has | |||
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"Why does politics play a part on a swingers site? Because politics play a role in every part of your life. Including sex. And choosing to ignore that doesn’t make it any less true. Wot RTG sed." You're a labourite aren't you | |||
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"And choosing to ignore that doesn’t make it any less true. Of course, choosing to ignore it is a valid choice.* . . (*And, ironically, a political one.)" Wot RTG sed again. Everything's political Willy. But that's very different to party political, media frenzy (which is also political). Political simply means "of policy", from Greek "polis" - town or city. In other words, how we organise living around others. That should be a lived, vibrant experience, every drumbeat of the day contains it. Rather than this once every 5 years pseudo-democracy, with one human voice for every 100,000 people (68 million people, 650 MPs), bent to all the corruption Westminster's bright lights and club-bish protection afford. If you had access to real politics, real debate, real influence and real connectivity to everything and everyone around you - you'd feel even more alive. Politics is life. Party politics and Westminster is a poor imitation. | |||
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"If someone has wildly differing values to me that a turn off. I'm meeting/fucking the entire person not just their 'neutral' knob. " s/knob/fanny/g But echo this otherwise. | |||
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"Rubbish sorry it can only shape the lives of those who let it in, it doesn't shape my life at all. "That’s patently untrue. You live in a society. That society is shaped and affected by political decisions. Everything you do and touch in a day is affected. The rules and laws of the land are. The prices you pay for things are. Everything is. | |||
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"Politics and religion is never talked about at any meet or social I have ever been to and will ever attend and that's exactly how I like it. " 100% This | |||
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"Rubbish sorry it can only shape the lives of those who let it in, it doesn't shape my life at all.
That’s patently untrue. You live in a society. That society is shaped and affected by political decisions. Everything you do and touch in a day is affected. The rules and laws of the land are. The prices you pay for things are. Everything is."The things you talk about are the hurdles of life they just have to be got over is all, you say politics shapes them i say it doesn't. Tax is a thing that was invented to keep the poor poor and the rich richer and therefore money was invented to value what somebody else can provide, we work to earn money to get by but for me politics plays absolutely no role in that process, i pay my way because thats got to be done to survive, to live. Politics is the negatives of life no place for them in my world. | |||
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"And choosing to ignore that doesn’t make it any less true. Of course, choosing to ignore it is a valid choice.* . . (*And, ironically, a political one.) Wot RTG sed again. Everything's political Willy. But that's very different to party political, media frenzy (which is also political). Political simply means "of policy", from Greek "polis" - town or city. In other words, how we organise living around others. That should be a lived, vibrant experience, every drumbeat of the day contains it. Rather than this once every 5 years pseudo-democracy, with one human voice for every 100,000 people (68 million people, 650 MPs), bent to all the corruption Westminster's bright lights and club-bish protection afford. If you had access to real politics, real debate, real influence and real connectivity to everything and everyone around you - you'd feel even more alive. Politics is life. Party politics and Westminster is a poor imitation." It's a great observation you make, but not quite what I was asking. Why does someone's party preference come into play? Why do people pigeon hole someone's whole personality based on who they vote for? | |||
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"Putting a smiley at the end doesn’t make it true, Fred. Every decision that affects your life is a political decision. You choosing to ignore that doesn’t change it. Gay sex used to be illegal. Now it’s not. Politics. The price of petrol goes up. Politics. You get ill and need to go to hospital. How do you think the hospital is even there? Stays open? Has doctors? Politics." Yes but the fact that somebody makes a law that makes something lawful affects my life how it doesn't i carry on my life, the fact that another country is killing the people of another country doesn't affect me my life continues, the fact that oil prices rose only affects the money i have to spend it doesn't affect me any other way. It may affect you because you watch the news and read newspapers and vote but i don't so it doesn't affect me, my life continues the only difference is how much i have to spend on living my life. | |||
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"Not participating in a political process doesn’t mean it doesn’t affect you. It does affect you, every day. Not liking that doesn’t change it. Ignoring it doesn’t change it. Denying it doesn’t change it. "It doesn’t trust me it doesn't | |||
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"And as the Op said how does your political affiliation affect sex it can't affect mine because i don't have an affiliation. "Not having an ‘affiliation’ is a choice. It *is* a political stance. Saying you don’t believe in politics and you don’t vote says something about you. The kind of person you are. And that can affect whether someone finds you attractive. So it affects your sex life. This really isn’t rocket science. | |||
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"Why do people pigeon hole someone's whole personality based on who they vote for?" Maybe because it’s a tangible, concrete display of what they believe in, and things like how they would like people worse off than themselves to be treated by the state. | |||
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"Putting a smiley at the end doesn’t make it true, Fred. Every decision that affects your life is a political decision. You choosing to ignore that doesn’t change it. Gay sex used to be illegal. Now it’s not. Politics. The price of petrol goes up. Politics. You get ill and need to go to hospital. How do you think the hospital is even there? Stays open? Has doctors? Politics." Wot RTG sed, over, and over, and over. Not wanting life to be political - I understand that, sympathise with it. It's rabbit hole upon rabbit hole in a spiral of confusion that never quite knows what it's doing....and we squidgy humans cope better with simplicity. Complexity is a bit scary. But realising all those rabbit holes are reality - that's intelligence. And how we shape our understandings from the limited information we extract - that determines ideas, technology, social interactions, social structures, economics, politics, progress - and regress. This whole thread could become several million words, and none of us would still have answers. But the questions are more important than the answers, and politics is about providing a working but flawed, temporary answer to an ongoing series of questions. The Westminster system was once a highly advanced "temporary answer" - around 400 years ago. It's now a particularly poor and dated answer, because those pesky questions never go away and keep metamorphosising into new strains, new "viruses" of data overload. We can run from that, but we can't hide from it. | |||
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"And as the Op said how does your political affiliation affect sex it can't affect mine because i don't have an affiliation.
Not having an ‘affiliation’ is a choice. It *is* a political stance.
Saying you don’t believe in politics and you don’t vote says something about you. The kind of person you are. And that can affect whether someone finds you attractive. So it affects your sex life.
This really isn’t rocket science. "lol ooooo i think this says more about you than me, I'm a good person I'm kind and generous, I'm helpful to my friends and others, I'm thoughtful and loving i just don't allow politics in my life if the narrow mindedness of others ruled me out because of it how does that affect me exactly surely thats the block button summed up, i didn't know them before and i don't know them now. | |||
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"Utter nonsense really… it’s like saying I’m not meeting them because they like tea but I only drink coffee." But is it fair-trade? | |||
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Also when people meet in a club do you talk about politics?
For those that say yes it bothers them which party a person votes for do all your friends have to have the same view as you and if not do you befriend them? | |||
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"Putting a smiley at the end doesn’t make it true, Fred. Every decision that affects your life is a political decision. You choosing to ignore that doesn’t change it. Gay sex used to be illegal. Now it’s not. Politics. The price of petrol goes up. Politics. You get ill and need to go to hospital. How do you think the hospital is even there? Stays open? Has doctors? Politics. Wot RTG sed, over, and over, and over. Not wanting life to be political - I understand that, sympathise with it. It's rabbit hole upon rabbit hole in a spiral of confusion that never quite knows what it's doing....and we squidgy humans cope better with simplicity. Complexity is a bit scary. But realising all those rabbit holes are reality - that's intelligence. And how we shape our understandings from the limited information we extract - that determines ideas, technology, social interactions, social structures, economics, politics, progress - and regress. This whole thread could become several million words, and none of us would still have answers. But the questions are more important than the answers, and politics is about providing a working but flawed, temporary answer to an ongoing series of questions. The Westminster system was once a highly advanced "temporary answer" - around 400 years ago. It's now a particularly poor and dated answer, because those pesky questions never go away and keep metamorphosising into new strains, new "viruses" of data overload. We can run from that, but we can't hide from it." but are you discounted sexually because of your political beliefs? | |||
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