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"Great fight to look forward to and can't wait. Talk of so called sportwashing but the snooker has been great, the boxing so far has been great. Fed up with sports people being criticised for trying to earn a few bob. Tom's money on Fury.. Just too big and rangey. " Fury is huge but technically Uysk is streets ahead I think it could be close | |||
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"I do think he’s been the best for some time in the weakest heavyweight division in my life time. I’m taking nothing away from him but seriously would he have beaten the likes of Foreman Clay Tyson Lewis? Not for me " Same here. And the lads you mention didn’t hide for years on end, they fought too contenders on a regular basis. These days, fights are announced and the general reaction from boxing fans is nah, will probably get cancelled | |||
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"You can only beat what's in front of you" That could be interpreted a number of ways! | |||
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"Fury is a fantastic boxer, but the body of work he has built up over the years in terms of things he has said is just objectionable and I find it hard to overlook. Racist, sexist and homophobic slurs pour out of the man. … and then there was the drugs ban … " He is a man of god though. | |||
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"Fury is a fantastic boxer, but the body of work he has built up over the years in terms of things he has said is just objectionable and I find it hard to overlook. Racist, sexist and homophobic slurs pour out of the man. … and then there was the drugs ban … He is a man of god though." … apart from the bits that demand respect and compassion. | |||
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"Hope Fury wins. Can't call it. I think the only man who could beat Fury is Usyk and the only man who could beat Usyk is Fury. If had to choose I'd make Fury ever so slight favourite due to extra size. Both look in top shape. " The betting odds agree with you. Barely anything in it | |||
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"They will fight at least twice due to the rematch clause whatever the result. I can see a cagey encounter where Fury tries to wear down Usyk by 'cuddling' him with his elbows & forehead every 30 seconds, & Usyk mostly dancing around Fury's jab but not able to get inside often enough to do much damage. In the end they end up cancelling each other out, but both learn a little bit more about each other for the rematch, which I see Fury eventually winning." That's how Tom sees it Betty | |||
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"Tysoe will knock him out within 2 rounds you watch" Hmmmm - not so sure about that..... | |||
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"The contentious things said by Fury in the past were designed to put bums on seats and sell fights. At heart he he is a good family man and of course, like us all, he has imperfections and struggles with mental health occasionally " Most of the offensive views that fury has come out with have been away from the context of fights. I don’t buy the idea that it’s an act just to sell tickets. Pre-fight goading is an act, the other stuff isn’t | |||
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"12 rounds of cuddling. With the odd rabbit punch thrown. " Eh, no | |||
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"Tysoe will knock him out within 2 rounds you watch" . That aged well! 
What in earth compelled you to make that claim when Fury hasn't knocked anyone out that early for 15 years (& that was a nobody!)
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"Great fight. Still can’t believe fury’s corner didn’t give him a boot up the ass before the last round. Also that’s one of the biggest fights of my generation and yet the atmosphere inside that stadium is dead. I get it’s about the money but I’ve seen more atmosphere at a fight in high school." He’sa talentless fighter with a talentless camp he’s been champion of the weakest heavyweight division in my lifetime and I’m pushing 50 I’ve said for a long time the skill and determination of Usyk will be Furys downfall he’s been found out | |||
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"Great fight. Still can’t believe fury’s corner didn’t give him a boot up the ass before the last round. Also that’s one of the biggest fights of my generation and yet the atmosphere inside that stadium is dead. I get it’s about the money but I’ve seen more atmosphere at a fight in high school. He’sa talentless fighter with a talentless camp he’s been champion of the weakest heavyweight division in my lifetime and I’m pushing 50 I’ve said for a long time the skill and determination of Usyk will be Furys downfall he’s been found out" Weakest?! You obviously forgot the post Lewis era, that was the worst | |||
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"First ever loss. Sorry for fury!!" Official loss… no one is telling me that MMA fighter didn’t beat him! | |||
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"Not normally a fan of boxing but looking forward to this one, might even have a flutter on it going the distance.." Did you have the bet? | |||
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"Fury was saved by the ref and the bell, had there been time after the standing count usyk would have finished him. glad usyk won " This! | |||
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"First ever loss. Sorry for fury!! Official loss… no one is telling me that MMA fighter didn’t beat him! " Arguably, John McDermott was unfortunate not to get the decision in their firat fight. Tyson Fury still an amazing talent, just got beat by the better man last night | |||
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"First ever loss. Sorry for fury!! Official loss… no one is telling me that MMA fighter didn’t beat him! Arguably, John McDermott was unfortunate not to get the decision in their firat fight. Tyson Fury still an amazing talent, just got beat by the better man last night " Talent? Have I missed something in every one of his fights I’ve seen brute strength and he showed huge heart to get his arse back up when Wilder sparked him out I’ll give him that. But I can never recall ever seeing or thinking the word talent and Tyson Fury can go together in the same sentence | |||
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" Tyson Fury still an amazing talent, just got beat by the better man last night Talent? Have I missed something in every one of his fights I’ve seen brute strength and he showed huge heart to get his arse back up when Wilder sparked him out I’ll give him that. But I can never recall ever seeing or thinking the word talent and Tyson Fury can go together in the same sentence " He do's not like been hit you can tell and tries to keep everybody at arms length and because he is taller can use that as an advantage too , But not a technical boxer his he just strength and throws a few good combinations at times, he i think he cannot be put in the same sentence as the like of Ail, Lewis, Liston, Forman, Fraizzier, Holyfield come on ! | |||
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"Not normally a fan of boxing but looking forward to this one, might even have a flutter on it going the distance.. Did you have the bet?" I did indeed - one of those "free" bets when you open an account  | |||
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"Will be a very interesting fight, I think people are imagining a bloodbath but I can’t see it personally, the fighter that wins is going to be legend so I imagine both to go for points and then spice it up after 7th round. Money is on Usyk on points but I want fury to win" good call | |||
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"Not normally a fan of boxing but looking forward to this one, might even have a flutter on it going the distance.. Did you have the bet? I did indeed - one of those "free" bets when you open an account "How do those work? I take it you can't claim your winnings straight away after a free bet and have to use it to bet again? | |||
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" He has God and England on his side" Well I’m English and I’m certainly not on his side Usyk is by far the better and more talented fighter and a lot more likeable. And the other one doesn’t exist so I’d say Fury got his work cut out!! | |||
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"First ever loss. Sorry for fury!! Official loss… no one is telling me that MMA fighter didn’t beat him! Arguably, John McDermott was unfortunate not to get the decision in their firat fight. Tyson Fury still an amazing talent, just got beat by the better man last night Talent? Have I missed something in every one of his fights I’ve seen brute strength and he showed huge heart to get his arse back up when Wilder sparked him out I’ll give him that. But I can never recall ever seeing or thinking the word talent and Tyson Fury can go together in the same sentence " No? He is generally seen as being a skilful boxer rather than relying on brute force. Not many knockouts. | |||
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"the simple fact is all boxers in the limelight are assholes and full of shit but for clever reasons they know being a asshole sells and puts millions into there bank accounts ... all top boxers are the same however i hate the gypsy hate theres no need for it him being a gypsy is no reason to dislike him not that i think hes care as his bank account is dripping with zillions.... boxing fans are short sighted mike tyson so called best ever his life of crime and no respect for others is foul yet hes loved " All boxers are assholes? Not sure I’d agree with that generalisation. And I’ll start with Katie Taylor, she’s really sound. | |||
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"First ever loss. Sorry for fury!! Official loss… no one is telling me that MMA fighter didn’t beat him! Arguably, John McDermott was unfortunate not to get the decision in their firat fight. Tyson Fury still an amazing talent, just got beat by the better man last night Talent? Have I missed something in every one of his fights I’ve seen brute strength and he showed huge heart to get his arse back up when Wilder sparked him out I’ll give him that. But I can never recall ever seeing or thinking the word talent and Tyson Fury can go together in the same sentence No? He is generally seen as being a skilful boxer rather than relying on brute force. Not many knockouts. " Not many knockouts because he’s not that good! He’s floated up the ladder of quite frankly a really really shit division. He wouldn’t last 6 rounds against some of the real greats who have been and passed | |||
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"Great fight. Still can’t believe fury’s corner didn’t give him a boot up the ass before the last round. Also that’s one of the biggest fights of my generation and yet the atmosphere inside that stadium is dead. I get it’s about the money but I’ve seen more atmosphere at a fight in high school. He’sa talentless fighter with a talentless camp he’s been champion of the weakest heavyweight division in my lifetime and I’m pushing 50 I’ve said for a long time the skill and determination of Usyk will be Furys downfall he’s been found out" You are at it. He is a great boxer. | |||
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"Great fight. Still can’t believe fury’s corner didn’t give him a boot up the ass before the last round. Also that’s one of the biggest fights of my generation and yet the atmosphere inside that stadium is dead. I get it’s about the money but I’ve seen more atmosphere at a fight in high school. He’sa talentless fighter with a talentless camp he’s been champion of the weakest heavyweight division in my lifetime and I’m pushing 50 I’ve said for a long time the skill and determination of Usyk will be Furys downfall he’s been found out You are at it. He is a great boxer. " ok | |||
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"First ever loss. Sorry for fury!! Official loss… no one is telling me that MMA fighter didn’t beat him! Arguably, John McDermott was unfortunate not to get the decision in their firat fight. Tyson Fury still an amazing talent, just got beat by the better man last night Talent? Have I missed something in every one of his fights I’ve seen brute strength and he showed huge heart to get his arse back up when Wilder sparked him out I’ll give him that. But I can never recall ever seeing or thinking the word talent and Tyson Fury can go together in the same sentence No? He is generally seen as being a skilful boxer rather than relying on brute force. Not many knockouts. Not many knockouts because he’s not that good! He’s floated up the ladder of quite frankly a really really shit division. He wouldn’t last 6 rounds against some of the real greats who have been and passed " A LOT of experts disagree with your opinion on this, so what I'm going to do is listen to them whilst having my own opinion that you don't know what you're talking about, that cool?
Usyk has achieved something amazing here. Took on the biggest, baddest lads in boxing and has come out on top, against all odds. We won't see this again in our lifetimes. I've been a fan of his since the Briedis fight and to see him clean up 2 divisions the way he has, constantly being considered the underdog, constantly being the away fighter.. The guy is a special talent. He's a HOF fighter and has to go down as an All Time Great.
Respect to Tyson too. I'm no fan of his, but he held his own for longer than most do against Usyk. | |||
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"First ever loss. Sorry for fury!! Official loss… no one is telling me that MMA fighter didn’t beat him! Arguably, John McDermott was unfortunate not to get the decision in their firat fight. Tyson Fury still an amazing talent, just got beat by the better man last night Talent? Have I missed something in every one of his fights I’ve seen brute strength and he showed huge heart to get his arse back up when Wilder sparked him out I’ll give him that. But I can never recall ever seeing or thinking the word talent and Tyson Fury can go together in the same sentence No? He is generally seen as being a skilful boxer rather than relying on brute force. Not many knockouts. Not many knockouts because he’s not that good! He’s floated up the ladder of quite frankly a really really shit division. He wouldn’t last 6 rounds against some of the real greats who have been and passed A LOT of experts disagree with your opinion on this, so what I'm going to do is listen to them whilst having my own opinion that you don't know what you're talking about, that cool?
Usyk has achieved something amazing here. Took on the biggest, baddest lads in boxing and has come out on top, against all odds. We won't see this again in our lifetimes. I've been a fan of his since the Briedis fight and to see him clean up 2 divisions the way he has, constantly being considered the underdog, constantly being the away fighter.. The guy is a special talent. He's a HOF fighter and has to go down as an All Time Great.
Respect to Tyson too. I'm no fan of his, but he held his own for longer than most do against Usyk. "That’s cool Usyk has been awesome, Fury average | |||
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"Fury will win the rematch if it happens .. " Nope. Usyk will stop him next time. | |||
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"Fury will win the rematch if it happens .. Nope. Usyk will stop him next time. " Honestly I feel the same way. Before Saturday I would have said Fury will win the 2nd fight. But since I saw the fight, I don't think Fury can bridge the huge gulf in physical fitness between the two. Certainly not in 5 months. Imo it's a UD Usyk in the rematch. | |||
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"Usyk is an amazingly good fighter , his footwork is next level and his technique is one of the best. Never stops working with the jab and throws punches from different angles. Can't see anyone beating him. Doubt there will be a rematch but if there is Usyk to win again. Tyson needs to remove his Dad from fights, it was a major distraction." Yes. Also Usyk also has an ability to take really hard punches and keep pushing through. He took Joshua's well. They didn't even seem to effect him... and in this fight he still kept pushing fury around the ring with a broken jaw. I don't see anyone beating him. | |||
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"Usyk is an amazingly good fighter , his footwork is next level and his technique is one of the best. Never stops working with the jab and throws punches from different angles. Can't see anyone beating him. Doubt there will be a rematch but if there is Usyk to win again. Tyson needs to remove his Dad from fights, it was a major distraction. Yes. Also Usyk also has an ability to take really hard punches and keep pushing through. He took Joshua's well. They didn't even seem to effect him... and in this fight he still kept pushing fury around the ring with a broken jaw. I don't see anyone beating him. " He didn't have a broken jaw, that was Fury bragging he had sent him to hospital, with a brokenjaw. He did have a inflammation from a tooth implant which was causing him pain.. | |||
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"So for once we have a undisputed heavyweight champion and the IBF are apparently going to strip Usyk of his title because he can't fight their mandatory challenger in time. Boxing is a big joke with these people in charge. " Indeed. It's all about the £££ they get from sanctioning fees The only title now that actually matters is the Ring Magazine belt | |||
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"First ever loss. Sorry for fury!! Official loss… no one is telling me that MMA fighter didn’t beat him! Arguably, John McDermott was unfortunate not to get the decision in their firat fight. Tyson Fury still an amazing talent, just got beat by the better man last night Talent? Have I missed something in every one of his fights I’ve seen brute strength and he showed huge heart to get his arse back up when Wilder sparked him out I’ll give him that. But I can never recall ever seeing or thinking the word talent and Tyson Fury can go together in the same sentence No? He is generally seen as being a skilful boxer rather than relying on brute force. Not many knockouts. Not many knockouts because he’s not that good! He’s floated up the ladder of quite frankly a really really shit division. He wouldn’t last 6 rounds against some of the real greats who have been and passed " He wouldn’t last 6 rounds against some of the greats? Ah he would, I mean Tyson is nearly 60 now. | |||
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"Fury will win the rematch if it happens .. " Based on your track record, I’ll put a few quid on usyk. Thanks | |||
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"I'm glad Usyk won but it's just a shame that he didn't knock out that gobby, arrogant twat "Piers Morgan? Clarkson? | |||
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"So for once we have a undisputed heavyweight champion and the IBF are apparently going to strip Usyk of his title because he can't fight their mandatory challenger in time. Boxing is a big joke with these people in charge. Indeed. It's all about the £££ they get from sanctioning fees The only title now that actually matters is the Ring Magazine belt " The Rocky belt  | |||
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"Usyk is an amazingly good fighter , his footwork is next level and his technique is one of the best. Never stops working with the jab and throws punches from different angles. Can't see anyone beating him. Doubt there will be a rematch but if there is Usyk to win again. Tyson needs to remove his Dad from fights, it was a major distraction. Yes. Also Usyk also has an ability to take really hard punches and keep pushing through. He took Joshua's well. They didn't even seem to effect him... and in this fight he still kept pushing fury around the ring with a broken jaw. I don't see anyone beating him. He didn't have a broken jaw, that was Fury bragging he had sent him to hospital, with a brokenjaw. He did have a inflammation from a tooth implant which was causing him pain.." ok I thought that's what usyk's promoter said as well..but yes fury seems to say anything these days. The ability to take a punch though I think is an underrated attribute...I'm thinking eubank, hollyfield, froch.. really impervious | |||
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"First ever loss. Sorry for fury!! Official loss… no one is telling me that MMA fighter didn’t beat him! Arguably, John McDermott was unfortunate not to get the decision in their firat fight. Tyson Fury still an amazing talent, just got beat by the better man last night Talent? Have I missed something in every one of his fights I’ve seen brute strength and he showed huge heart to get his arse back up when Wilder sparked him out I’ll give him that. But I can never recall ever seeing or thinking the word talent and Tyson Fury can go together in the same sentence No? He is generally seen as being a skilful boxer rather than relying on brute force. Not many knockouts. Not many knockouts because he’s not that good! He’s floated up the ladder of quite frankly a really really shit division. He wouldn’t last 6 rounds against some of the real greats who have been and passed He wouldn’t last 6 rounds against some of the greats? Ah he would, I mean Tyson is nearly 60 now. " The rose tinted spectacle. Many of the legendary greats in most sports were also talked down in their day and described like this. Its only afterwards after retirement or death they seem to get appreciated. | |||
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"The rose tinted spectacle. Many of the legendary greats in most sports were also talked down in their day and described like this. Its only afterwards after retirement or death they seem to get appreciated. " People are obsessed with living in the past lol. In terms of conditioning, training and technique this is the most advanced the sport has ever been. In 10 years time that will be the most advanced the sport has ever been. To say Fury, the 6ft9, 260lbs monster who moves more like a cruiserweight wouldn't last 6 rounds with some of the past legends is unbelievably ignorant and naive. Honestly Lewis is the only one I'd bet on to beat Fury. The others, Ali, M. Tyson, Holyfield, Big George etc etc, I'd have Fury a big favourite just on size and IQ alone. And to say he's not great because he hasn't knocked many people out, jeez. His KO ratio is better than Ali and Floyd. So tell everyone how they're average too  | |||
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"The rose tinted spectacle. Many of the legendary greats in most sports were also talked down in their day and described like this. Its only afterwards after retirement or death they seem to get appreciated. People are obsessed with living in the past lol. In terms of conditioning, training and technique this is the most advanced the sport has ever been. In 10 years time that will be the most advanced the sport has ever been. To say Fury, the 6ft9, 260lbs monster who moves more like a cruiserweight wouldn't last 6 rounds with some of the past legends is unbelievably ignorant and naive. Honestly Lewis is the only one I'd bet on to beat Fury. The others, Ali, M. Tyson, Holyfield, Big George etc etc, I'd have Fury a big favourite just on size and IQ alone. And to say he's not great because he hasn't knocked many people out, jeez. His KO ratio is better than Ali and Floyd. So tell everyone how they're average too "Well for a start, Ali is the same size as Usyk, and quicker, I dare say he'd work Fury out. And I see bad things happening if 70s vintage Big George catches the Gypsy King on the whiskers. But, Fury would be competitive in any era for sure. | |||
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"The rose tinted spectacle. Many of the legendary greats in most sports were also talked down in their day and described like this. Its only afterwards after retirement or death they seem to get appreciated. People are obsessed with living in the past lol. In terms of conditioning, training and technique this is the most advanced the sport has ever been. In 10 years time that will be the most advanced the sport has ever been. To say Fury, the 6ft9, 260lbs monster who moves more like a cruiserweight wouldn't last 6 rounds with some of the past legends is unbelievably ignorant and naive. Honestly Lewis is the only one I'd bet on to beat Fury. The others, Ali, M. Tyson, Holyfield, Big George etc etc, I'd have Fury a big favourite just on size and IQ alone. And to say he's not great because he hasn't knocked many people out, jeez. His KO ratio is better than Ali and Floyd. So tell everyone how they're average too
Well for a start, Ali is the same size as Usyk, and quicker, I dare say he'd work Fury out. And I see bad things happening if 70s vintage Big George catches the Gypsy King on the whiskers. But, Fury would be competitive in any era for sure."My point was it would be competitive. To say he wouldn't last with them for 6 rounds is my beef. Just look at how well Fury recovers after going down for a start. | |||
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"The rose tinted spectacle. Many of the legendary greats in most sports were also talked down in their day and described like this. Its only afterwards after retirement or death they seem to get appreciated. People are obsessed with living in the past lol. In terms of conditioning, training and technique this is the most advanced the sport has ever been. In 10 years time that will be the most advanced the sport has ever been. To say Fury, the 6ft9, 260lbs monster who moves more like a cruiserweight wouldn't last 6 rounds with some of the past legends is unbelievably ignorant and naive. Honestly Lewis is the only one I'd bet on to beat Fury. The others, Ali, M. Tyson, Holyfield, Big George etc etc, I'd have Fury a big favourite just on size and IQ alone. And to say he's not great because he hasn't knocked many people out, jeez. His KO ratio is better than Ali and Floyd. So tell everyone how they're average too
Well for a start, Ali is the same size as Usyk, and quicker, I dare say he'd work Fury out. And I see bad things happening if 70s vintage Big George catches the Gypsy King on the whiskers. But, Fury would be competitive in any era for sure.
My point was it would be competitive. To say he wouldn't last with them for 6 rounds is my beef. Just look at how well Fury recovers after going down for a start. "Fair comment | |||
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"The rose tinted spectacle. Many of the legendary greats in most sports were also talked down in their day and described like this. Its only afterwards after retirement or death they seem to get appreciated. People are obsessed with living in the past lol. In terms of conditioning, training and technique this is the most advanced the sport has ever been. In 10 years time that will be the most advanced the sport has ever been. To say Fury, the 6ft9, 260lbs monster who moves more like a cruiserweight wouldn't last 6 rounds with some of the past legends is unbelievably ignorant and naive. Honestly Lewis is the only one I'd bet on to beat Fury. The others, Ali, M. Tyson, Holyfield, Big George etc etc, I'd have Fury a big favourite just on size and IQ alone. And to say he's not great because he hasn't knocked many people out, jeez. His KO ratio is better than Ali and Floyd. So tell everyone how they're average too "So Ali and M Tyson would have lost to Tyson Fury! Ok this thread has reached the realms of fantasy i bid you all a lovely evening I’m bowing out from here | |||
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"The rose tinted spectacle. Many of the legendary greats in most sports were also talked down in their day and described like this. Its only afterwards after retirement or death they seem to get appreciated. People are obsessed with living in the past lol. In terms of conditioning, training and technique this is the most advanced the sport has ever been. In 10 years time that will be the most advanced the sport has ever been. To say Fury, the 6ft9, 260lbs monster who moves more like a cruiserweight wouldn't last 6 rounds with some of the past legends is unbelievably ignorant and naive. Honestly Lewis is the only one I'd bet on to beat Fury. The others, Ali, M. Tyson, Holyfield, Big George etc etc, I'd have Fury a big favourite just on size and IQ alone. And to say he's not great because he hasn't knocked many people out, jeez. His KO ratio is better than Ali and Floyd. So tell everyone how they're average too So Ali and M Tyson would have lost to Tyson Fury! Ok this thread has reached the realms of fantasy i bid you all a lovely evening I’m bowing out from here "Mike Tyson, I would bet everything that not only would he lose, he wouldn't even win a round. Ali, probably closer fight, he would have success no doubt about it, but no way would he stop Fury though. Mike Tysons best win was against Larry Holmes, who had been retired a year when they fought. All his knock outs were against journey men at a time when the division really was at it's weakest. And when it started to get good again, Tyson lost every time he stepped up. He even lost during his so called prime years against Douglas. He is the most overrated boxer the sport has ever seen but people are still high on him because he knocked out a few taxi drivers. | |||
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"Honestly Lewis is the only one I'd bet on to beat Fury. The others, Ali, M. Tyson, Holyfield, Big George etc etc, I'd have Fury a big favourite just on size and IQ alone. And to say he's not great because he hasn't knocked many people out, jeez. His KO ratio is better than Ali and Floyd. So tell everyone how they're average too "I've seen a fair few wild takes on here, but that might be the craziest thing I've ever seen written in this forum, & that includes the "bum-pussies" thread. Tyson Fury almost lost to a 38 year old MMA fighter 6 months ago  | |||
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