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"Which has kind of blown my mind a bit. I’ve looked on Google (so it *must* be true, right? ) that 30-50% of people DON’T have one! How do they rationalise their thoughts if they’re not “talking to themselves” in their mind? Even now my inner voice is saying “right, time for a cup of tea!” Do you have an inner monologue? If not how do you process / rationalise information? I’m intrigued to know! " I have an outer monologue | |||
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"This is going to sound weird and I know that but I don't really care. Thought I'd caveat it nevertheless, though. I don't have an internal monologue as such, it's more an internal typewriter so those words sort of appear in my mind on a sheet of paper and then get added to. Where it gets interesting is when I have to make a decision and end up doing a mental pros and cons list. I don't really have an inner voice it's more an inner library that gets added to. I think I'm odd. I should stop typing. :D " Is it an old fashioned clickety click typewriter? That'd be pretty cool | |||
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"I have visuals, music, the inner monologue and a few smells thrown in there as well. I can't imagine not having any of those components in my thoughts." Likewise - all of the above. I can’t think how I would function without the words there too. But I guess I used to function ok before I could talk. How did I think then? It’s making my head hurt thinking about it! | |||
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"More inner dialogue than is healthy I’d say. It’s a result of spending so much work time alone with only music and my own thoughts for company. I wonder… Has anyone ever attached a familiar voice to their inner voice? " Yeah mine is rab c Nesbit, I’ll tell ye this boy | |||
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" I talk to myself, have conversations out loud with the inner me. " Snap. But I call it "consulting an expert" | |||
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"I have ADHD so it's more than just a monologue...usually self commentary, various thought streams, sensory feedback, having an external conversation and at least one piece of a song...not the whole thing, usually just a phrase especially if it's an unusual word or cadence..." Interesting | |||
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"More inner dialogue than is healthy I’d say. It’s a result of spending so much work time alone with only music and my own thoughts for company. I wonder… Has anyone ever attached a familiar voice to their inner voice? Yeah mine is rab c Nesbit, I’ll tell ye this boy " I really hope that doesn’t come with the visual aspect too | |||
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"I don't have an inner monologue. I don't visualise things, e.g. if asked the imagine a lovely beach, I can't. Nothing "appears" in my head. It's caused problems, such as when I was referred for pain psychotherapy. Everything was about imagining this or visualise that. I had nothing. It was completely pointless and ridiculous to me, but I was labelled a non compliant patient instead. Yay! I'm broken " I assume you don't day dream then? Or dream at night? | |||
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"I don't have an inner monologue. I don't visualise things, e.g. if asked the imagine a lovely beach, I can't. Nothing "appears" in my head. It's caused problems, such as when I was referred for pain psychotherapy. Everything was about imagining this or visualise that. I had nothing. It was completely pointless and ridiculous to me, but I was labelled a non compliant patient instead. Yay! I'm broken I assume you don't day dream then? Or dream at night?" I sometimes dream if I'm in that dozing state in the early morning, but I rarely recall anything. I don't think I daydream, no, but honestly, I'm not sure what a daydream would actually look/feel like | |||
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"I don't have an inner monologue. I don't visualise things, e.g. if asked the imagine a lovely beach, I can't. Nothing "appears" in my head. It's caused problems, such as when I was referred for pain psychotherapy. Everything was about imagining this or visualise that. I had nothing. It was completely pointless and ridiculous to me, but I was labelled a non compliant patient instead. Yay! I'm broken " Ah that’s really interesting. Often if I’m stressed or worried about something I’ll think of that upcoming holiday or day at the beach etc - that can really help. I can’t visualise NOT being able to visualise if that makes sense! I’ve always assumed everyone just thinks (mostly) the same way. Obviously not! | |||
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"I don't have an inner monologue. I don't visualise things, e.g. if asked the imagine a lovely beach, I can't. Nothing "appears" in my head. It's caused problems, such as when I was referred for pain psychotherapy. Everything was about imagining this or visualise that. I had nothing. It was completely pointless and ridiculous to me, but I was labelled a non compliant patient instead. Yay! I'm broken I assume you don't day dream then? Or dream at night? I sometimes dream if I'm in that dozing state in the early morning, but I rarely recall anything. I don't think I daydream, no, but honestly, I'm not sure what a daydream would actually look/feel like " sorry for more questions. So at night is your mind "quiet"? | |||
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"I was mind blown relatively recently when my ex told me she has Aphantasia which is a condition where some people are unable to visualise mental images. This means that they cannot form mental pictures or images in their minds, even when they try to imagine or recall memories " My daughter has this, which for an artist you would think would be pretty tricky. So long as she has a point of reference she's ok. Also, if you asked her to describe me and I wasn't in the room with her, she could tell you my hair colour and that's about it. She can't recall any other features. She recognises me once she sees me, but can't picture me when I'm not with her. | |||
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"I was mind blown relatively recently when my ex told me she has Aphantasia which is a condition where some people are unable to visualise mental images. This means that they cannot form mental pictures or images in their minds, even when they try to imagine or recall memories " We found out about aphantasia a few months back from a podcast and it was fascinating to learn about. Also realised that I (John) have it and it suddenly made some of my personal interests and traits make a lot more sense, like my love for photography and capturing visual memories in that form, as I'm unable to visualise memories, people, objects etc in my mind. It's interesting how aphantasia was only discovered relatively recently as well. | |||
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"More inner dialogue than is healthy I’d say. It’s a result of spending so much work time alone with only music and my own thoughts for company. I wonder… Has anyone ever attached a familiar voice to their inner voice? Yeah mine is rab c Nesbit, I’ll tell ye this boy I really hope that doesn’t come with the visual aspect too " Well in reality I do sound like him anyway and some say on a good day I look like him to | |||
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"There's no words. I'm aware of what I'm doing and how it feels and what the next steps are, but it's not in words. There's no narrator. When it comes to words I just have to open my mouth or start typing to see what the words are." Pretty much this I know what I think but I don’t have a voice talking to me. If I had a voice in my head then that would be weird to me. | |||
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"Ironically, I just made a cup of tea and I can honestly say there was no internal narrative to that process. I don't think it's that peculiar, if you talk to artists or athletes many will talk about being in the 'zone' or the 'pocket'. Where they no longer think they just do. This kind of optimal state of harmoniousness between mind and body is a fundamental aspect of Wu Wei in Taoism. Where it's practiced intentionally with that purpose. In martial arts people train such that their natural responses to sensory data bypass thought that would cause delay. The same could be said of dance. All organisms learn to reflexively respond to their environment and needs. Why we would believe that thinking is superior to feeling, I find rather an arbitrary assumption. Is it a perpetual state, no absolutely not. It's a desirable one for me though. I'm glad I can make a brew from muscle memory. Always seem to be the ones that taste best too." I can understand all that - kind of like times I’ve driven somewhere and I end up safely at my destination and done all of the proper indications, stopping at signals, braking, being aware of others around me and what they’re doing etc but when I get there I realise that I’ve done pretty much the whole journey on auto-pilot and can’t really remember anything about it at all. I’m guessing it must be the same for people with no inner dialogue. | |||
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"I don't have an inner monologue. I don't visualise things, e.g. if asked the imagine a lovely beach, I can't. Nothing "appears" in my head. It's caused problems, such as when I was referred for pain psychotherapy. Everything was about imagining this or visualise that. I had nothing. It was completely pointless and ridiculous to me, but I was labelled a non compliant patient instead. Yay! I'm broken I assume you don't day dream then? Or dream at night? I sometimes dream if I'm in that dozing state in the early morning, but I rarely recall anything. I don't think I daydream, no, but honestly, I'm not sure what a daydream would actually look/feel like sorry for more questions. So at night is your mind "quiet"?" I do think through things I need to do for the next day, but it's very procedural/planning. I'm mainly affected badly by hot flushes and night sweats from menopause, which keep me awake. Not thinking about life. | |||
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"No inner dialogue here. It's a very lonely world, mine! I do however, always count my steps in my head when I'm out walking, running, on the cross trainer, etc. I seem to go up to eight then start again. Does that count?" I lose count when I'm in the gym! It's embarrassing | |||
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"No inner dialogue here. It's a very lonely world, mine! I do however, always count my steps in my head when I'm out walking, running, on the cross trainer, etc. I seem to go up to eight then start again. Does that count? I lose count when I'm in the gym! It's embarrassing " One, two, fuck it that is too heavy? Thats my normal gym counting. | |||
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"No inner dialogue here. It's a very lonely world, mine! I do however, always count my steps in my head when I'm out walking, running, on the cross trainer, etc. I seem to go up to eight then start again. Does that count? I lose count when I'm in the gym! It's embarrassing One, two, fuck it that is too heavy? Thats my normal gym counting." I count but then see something or someone or something in my line of sight then lose count | |||
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"Ironically, I just made a cup of tea and I can honestly say there was no internal narrative to that process. I don't think it's that peculiar, if you talk to artists or athletes many will talk about being in the 'zone' or the 'pocket'. Where they no longer think they just do. This kind of optimal state of harmoniousness between mind and body is a fundamental aspect of Wu Wei in Taoism. Where it's practiced intentionally with that purpose. In martial arts people train such that their natural responses to sensory data bypass thought that would cause delay. The same could be said of dance. All organisms learn to reflexively respond to their environment and needs. Why we would believe that thinking is superior to feeling, I find rather an arbitrary assumption. Is it a perpetual state, no absolutely not. It's a desirable one for me though. I'm glad I can make a brew from muscle memory. Always seem to be the ones that taste best too. I can understand all that - kind of like times I’ve driven somewhere and I end up safely at my destination and done all of the proper indications, stopping at signals, braking, being aware of others around me and what they’re doing etc but when I get there I realise that I’ve done pretty much the whole journey on auto-pilot and can’t really remember anything about it at all. I’m guessing it must be the same for people with no inner dialogue. " I think that's a very apt example. Also, maybe worth noting that the same thing sometimes leads me into taking the wrong route, out of habit | |||
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"Ironically, I just made a cup of tea and I can honestly say there was no internal narrative to that process. I don't think it's that peculiar, if you talk to artists or athletes many will talk about being in the 'zone' or the 'pocket'. Where they no longer think they just do. This kind of optimal state of harmoniousness between mind and body is a fundamental aspect of Wu Wei in Taoism. Where it's practiced intentionally with that purpose. In martial arts people train such that their natural responses to sensory data bypass thought that would cause delay. The same could be said of dance. All organisms learn to reflexively respond to their environment and needs. Why we would believe that thinking is superior to feeling, I find rather an arbitrary assumption. Is it a perpetual state, no absolutely not. It's a desirable one for me though. I'm glad I can make a brew from muscle memory. Always seem to be the ones that taste best too. I can understand all that - kind of like times I’ve driven somewhere and I end up safely at my destination and done all of the proper indications, stopping at signals, braking, being aware of others around me and what they’re doing etc but when I get there I realise that I’ve done pretty much the whole journey on auto-pilot and can’t really remember anything about it at all. I’m guessing it must be the same for people with no inner dialogue. I think that's a very apt example. Also, maybe worth noting that the same thing sometimes leads me into taking the wrong route, out of habit " I do this far too often! Set off towards home automatically, despite on that particular evening needing to collect Mr KC and/or our daughter from somewhere! I've had to divert a few times | |||
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" I think that's a very apt example. Also, maybe worth noting that the same thing sometimes leads me into taking the wrong route, out of habit I do this far too often! Set off towards home automatically, despite on that particular evening needing to collect Mr KC and/or our daughter from somewhere! I've had to divert a few times " I put the sat nav on just to prevent it and I still do it. | |||
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" I think that's a very apt example. Also, maybe worth noting that the same thing sometimes leads me into taking the wrong route, out of habit I do this far too often! Set off towards home automatically, despite on that particular evening needing to collect Mr KC and/or our daughter from somewhere! I've had to divert a few times I put the sat nav on just to prevent it and I still do it. " I'm too stingy to pay for the "live" subscription for my car Satnav, so it's next to useless in the rush hour etc. I use Google Maps on my phone to decide a route before leaving; set off and then sometimes just head off on autopilot. I do usually remember I need to go to school or dance or whatever before getting too far along. I've not yet abandoned them | |||
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"I have 5 Each voice tell me something different " Would have been disappointed if no inner voice for winko | |||
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"I don't have an inner monologue. I don't visualise things, e.g. if asked the imagine a lovely beach, I can't. Nothing "appears" in my head. It's caused problems, such as when I was referred for pain psychotherapy. Everything was about imagining this or visualise that. I had nothing. It was completely pointless and ridiculous to me, but I was labelled a non compliant patient instead. Yay! I'm broken " A failure in treatment, probably down to them not listening. Sounds awfully like cbt. A decent chat with decent biscuits would have been more use. | |||
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"I think this is wild that some people don't have it, it must be very quiet for them!! Miss S x" Very. Partly why I dont mind if a meet can talk all 4 legs off a donkey. | |||
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"I do. I have some wonderful conversations with myself. And I’m never lonely because I’m always there. Annoying myself." I’ve told mine to fuck off many times. The scary thing is he does. It’s so quiet. | |||
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"Imagine not having voices in your head. Must be nice " True Except for dissociation that's not so pleasant. | |||
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"People who say they have a voice in their head - do you actually mean that it is like someone else talking to you all the time? Does it have an accent? Can you shut it up?" For me it’s my thoughts - in words. So I’ve just put some shelves up for example, as I was doing it my thoughts / voice says I need to get the drill now for example. It’s not a conversation with 2 people. My inner voice isn’t saying “how are you today, nice weather isn’t it”? | |||
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"People who say they have a voice in their head - do you actually mean that it is like someone else talking to you all the time? Does it have an accent? Can you shut it up? For me it’s my thoughts - in words. So I’ve just put some shelves up for example, as I was doing it my thoughts / voice says I need to get the drill now for example. It’s not a conversation with 2 people. My inner voice isn’t saying “how are you today, nice weather isn’t it”? " Is it all thoughts or just some? | |||
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"I wonder how black males with average to small cocks feel. " Come again? | |||
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"People who say they have a voice in their head - do you actually mean that it is like someone else talking to you all the time? Does it have an accent? Can you shut it up? For me it’s my thoughts - in words. So I’ve just put some shelves up for example, as I was doing it my thoughts / voice says I need to get the drill now for example. It’s not a conversation with 2 people. My inner voice isn’t saying “how are you today, nice weather isn’t it”? Is it all thoughts or just some?" Pretty much all | |||
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"Out of Kylie and Danni I prefer Kylie" There’s no accounting for taste. #TeamDanni | |||
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"People who say they have a voice in their head - do you actually mean that it is like someone else talking to you all the time? Does it have an accent? Can you shut it up? For me it’s my thoughts - in words. So I’ve just put some shelves up for example, as I was doing it my thoughts / voice says I need to get the drill now for example. It’s not a conversation with 2 people. My inner voice isn’t saying “how are you today, nice weather isn’t it”? " My inner voice goes like this “Right time to get up, I’m busting for a wee” “Which sod didn’t flush the toilet last?” “Time for a cup of tea” Etc etc. It’s like an interior running commentary on life. | |||
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"People who say they have a voice in their head - do you actually mean that it is like someone else talking to you all the time? Does it have an accent? Can you shut it up? For me it’s my thoughts - in words. So I’ve just put some shelves up for example, as I was doing it my thoughts / voice says I need to get the drill now for example. It’s not a conversation with 2 people. My inner voice isn’t saying “how are you today, nice weather isn’t it”? My inner voice goes like this “Right time to get up, I’m busting for a wee” “Which sod didn’t flush the toilet last?” “Time for a cup of tea” Etc etc. It’s like an interior running commentary on life." exactly this. | |||
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"If we have thoughts and an awareness of them, don't we need words to understand them?" How is that equating to an inner monologue? I know I'm currently typing on my phone but there's no inner voice telling me what I'm doing or reading my words back to me. I'm just moving my finger across the keypad and writing stuff. Silent words. | |||
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"I wonder how black males with average to small cocks feel. Come again?" I didn’t get it either. | |||
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"If we have thoughts and an awareness of them, don't we need words to understand them? How is that equating to an inner monologue? I know I'm currently typing on my phone but there's no inner voice telling me what I'm doing or reading my words back to me. I'm just moving my finger across the keypad and writing stuff. Silent words. " I think a few posted further back that no, they don't have an inner monologue-just thoughts with no words accompanying them. I probably don't completely understand what an inner monologue is | |||
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"If we have thoughts and an awareness of them, don't we need words to understand them? How is that equating to an inner monologue? I know I'm currently typing on my phone but there's no inner voice telling me what I'm doing or reading my words back to me. I'm just moving my finger across the keypad and writing stuff. Silent words. I think a few posted further back that no, they don't have an inner monologue-just thoughts with no words accompanying them. I probably don't completely understand what an inner monologue is" I'm one without the monologue. I know other people have one, but have no reference point to understand what it might feel like to have an inner "voice". I just do stuff but without a running commentary in my head, I suppose. | |||
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"I wonder how black males with average to small cocks feel. Come again?" That’s what all the girls say. | |||
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"Which has kind of blown my mind a bit. I’ve looked on Google (so it *must* be true, right? ) that 30-50% of people DON’T have one! How do they rationalise their thoughts if they’re not “talking to themselves” in their mind? Even now my inner voice is saying “right, time for a cup of tea!” Do you have an inner monologue? If not how do you process / rationalise information? I’m intrigued to know! " Me and two friends were talking about this in a garden centre restaurant one day and me and 1 friend said we had an inner monologue and we rehearse conversations before we actually verbalising them and the other friend looked at us like we was insane lol and we were talking rather loud so the table next to us went silent and kept looking at us that's when I realised not everyone has the capability to inner monologue must be very quiet in their heads | |||
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"How do you read if you have no inner voice?" Dunno, but isn't that different to what people are describing as a constant "chatter" in their heads etc? I don't have anything like that. But I can read. I'm reading right now but I'm not detecting it as a "voice" in my head. It's kinda hard to explain | |||
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"How do you read if you have no inner voice?" I recognise the shape of words. | |||
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"How do you read if you have no inner voice? Dunno, but isn't that different to what people are describing as a constant "chatter" in their heads etc? I don't have anything like that. But I can read. I'm reading right now but I'm not detecting it as a "voice" in my head. It's kinda hard to explain " This is why it takes me ages to read a book, I read at the pace my inner monologue narrates it too me. I know people who read books super fast because they don’t have this and are able to just scan read, I can’t do that. And obviously I have to give all the characters their own voices and mannerisms, all this takes time. | |||
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"How do you read if you have no inner voice? Dunno, but isn't that different to what people are describing as a constant "chatter" in their heads etc? I don't have anything like that. But I can read. I'm reading right now but I'm not detecting it as a "voice" in my head. It's kinda hard to explain This is why it takes me ages to read a book, I read at the pace my inner monologue narrates it too me. I know people who read books super fast because they don’t have this and are able to just scan read, I can’t do that. And obviously I have to give all the characters their own voices and mannerisms, all this takes time. " I read super fast because I can look at a sentence and take the whole thing in. I don't know if this is a good thing or not. | |||
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"How do you read if you have no inner voice? Dunno, but isn't that different to what people are describing as a constant "chatter" in their heads etc? I don't have anything like that. But I can read. I'm reading right now but I'm not detecting it as a "voice" in my head. It's kinda hard to explain This is why it takes me ages to read a book, I read at the pace my inner monologue narrates it too me. I know people who read books super fast because they don’t have this and are able to just scan read, I can’t do that. And obviously I have to give all the characters their own voices and mannerisms, all this takes time. " I read pretty quickly, as you describe. There's no different voices or anything. | |||
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"How do you read if you have no inner voice? Dunno, but isn't that different to what people are describing as a constant "chatter" in their heads etc? I don't have anything like that. But I can read. I'm reading right now but I'm not detecting it as a "voice" in my head. It's kinda hard to explain This is why it takes me ages to read a book, I read at the pace my inner monologue narrates it too me. I know people who read books super fast because they don’t have this and are able to just scan read, I can’t do that. And obviously I have to give all the characters their own voices and mannerisms, all this takes time. I read super fast because I can look at a sentence and take the whole thing in. I don't know if this is a good thing or not. " Me too!!! Yay | |||
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"How do you read if you have no inner voice? Dunno, but isn't that different to what people are describing as a constant "chatter" in their heads etc? I don't have anything like that. But I can read. I'm reading right now but I'm not detecting it as a "voice" in my head. It's kinda hard to explain This is why it takes me ages to read a book, I read at the pace my inner monologue narrates it too me. I know people who read books super fast because they don’t have this and are able to just scan read, I can’t do that. And obviously I have to give all the characters their own voices and mannerisms, all this takes time. I read super fast because I can look at a sentence and take the whole thing in. I don't know if this is a good thing or not. Me too!!! Yay " Let's agree it's a good thing then | |||
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"How do you read if you have no inner voice? Dunno, but isn't that different to what people are describing as a constant "chatter" in their heads etc? I don't have anything like that. But I can read. I'm reading right now but I'm not detecting it as a "voice" in my head. It's kinda hard to explain This is why it takes me ages to read a book, I read at the pace my inner monologue narrates it too me. I know people who read books super fast because they don’t have this and are able to just scan read, I can’t do that. And obviously I have to give all the characters their own voices and mannerisms, all this takes time. I read super fast because I can look at a sentence and take the whole thing in. I don't know if this is a good thing or not. Me too!!! Yay Let's agree it's a good thing then " Definitely | |||
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"How do you read if you have no inner voice? Dunno, but isn't that different to what people are describing as a constant "chatter" in their heads etc? I don't have anything like that. But I can read. I'm reading right now but I'm not detecting it as a "voice" in my head. It's kinda hard to explain This is why it takes me ages to read a book, I read at the pace my inner monologue narrates it too me. I know people who read books super fast because they don’t have this and are able to just scan read, I can’t do that. And obviously I have to give all the characters their own voices and mannerisms, all this takes time. I read super fast because I can look at a sentence and take the whole thing in. I don't know if this is a good thing or not. " It’s a very good thing | |||
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"How do you read if you have no inner voice? Dunno, but isn't that different to what people are describing as a constant "chatter" in their heads etc? I don't have anything like that. But I can read. I'm reading right now but I'm not detecting it as a "voice" in my head. It's kinda hard to explain This is why it takes me ages to read a book, I read at the pace my inner monologue narrates it too me. I know people who read books super fast because they don’t have this and are able to just scan read, I can’t do that. And obviously I have to give all the characters their own voices and mannerisms, all this takes time. I read super fast because I can look at a sentence and take the whole thing in. I don't know if this is a good thing or not. It’s a very good thing " It can get tedious if I need to read in conjunction with other people. Also I sometimes feel I'm missing the full 'experience' of reading. Other people describe picturing characters, attributing different voices etc and I don't do that. | |||
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" I read super fast because I can look at a sentence and take the whole thing in. I don't know if this is a good thing or not. " It’s good for learning. But not the most enjoyable for fiction. This is such an interesting area to me I remember learning to speed & skim read at uni and when to use each. That the least number of words you read the more you learn & understand because it forces your brain to work harder to join the dots. Some tests showed that understanding increases the most when you remove 50% -75% of the worlds using templates with word holes cut out Also the way we were taught to read at school looking at each word one by one is the wrong way to read efficiently as adults , but the right way to learn to read as a child. But we should’ve dropped the method by about age 7 or 8 Best look at whole paragraphs without moving your eyes and then move your eyes down to the next chunk looking at each part of the page for a few seconds only is the most optimal but it is mentally draining. I read and annotated a 47 A4 page article while having my coffee before work this morning in around 15 mins, very very taxing. | |||
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" I read super fast because I can look at a sentence and take the whole thing in. I don't know if this is a good thing or not. It’s good for learning. But not the most enjoyable for fiction. " I do enjoy fiction but as I said above I don't think I get the experience that some do. If I'm reading biography and autobiography I enjoy it much more because there are usually illustrations and photos. | |||
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" I read super fast because I can look at a sentence and take the whole thing in. I don't know if this is a good thing or not. It’s good for learning. But not the most enjoyable for fiction. I do enjoy fiction but as I said above I don't think I get the experience that some do. If I'm reading biography and autobiography I enjoy it much more because there are usually illustrations and photos. " I must say I prefer reading non fiction books etc . | |||
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"Read Ulysses if you want to know anything about internal monologues " Just read it to bathe in the words, to feast on what language can be. And it'll soon be Bloomsday! | |||
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"This is called anaduralia, there is also aphantasia where you can’t visualize things in your head " That's me then. I need a picture or I can't visualise it. Mr N explained a big plan he had to landscape our garden. I had no idea what it would look like until he'd finished it. | |||
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"Out of Kylie and Danni I prefer Kylie" Thanks for that Inner Minogue. I can't get it out of my head now | |||
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"Out of Kylie and Danni I prefer Kylie Thanks for that Inner Minogue. I can't get it out of my head now " You think that's bad? I'm spinning around | |||
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"This is called anaduralia, there is also aphantasia where you can’t visualize things in your head That's me then. I need a picture or I can't visualise it. Mr N explained a big plan he had to landscape our garden. I had no idea what it would look like until he'd finished it. " Do you dream? | |||
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