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By *aleforfun22 OP   Man
34 weeks ago

Lancashire

Or do we just have bad songs when entering

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By *ittlebirdWoman
34 weeks ago

The Big Smoke

Yes and yes

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By (user no longer on site)
34 weeks ago

It's a weird one. I always thought we were hated but we did so well in 2022 with Sam Ryder. Was it just a one off or was there something more to that?

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By *uenevereWoman
34 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

We can do well as Sam Ryder showed. If it wasn't for the Ukraine situation I think hevwould have won.

Sadly, this years entry was poor.

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By *ames250122Man
34 weeks ago

Worcester


"Or do we just have bad songs when entering "

Bit of column A and a lot of Column B lol

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By *ot to giggleWoman
34 weeks ago

Coventry

the song wasnt very good

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By *olly MistlehoeWoman
34 weeks ago

Somewhere


"We can do well as Sam Ryder showed. If it wasn't for the Ukraine situation I think hevwould have won.

Sadly, this years entry was poor. "

I think it was the amount of support we'd given the Ukraine that got us up there, not the other way around

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By *og-ManMan
34 weeks ago

somewhere

Is it a bit of a push back from ordinary voters

The singing itself was crap and the whole sleazy toilet set up didn't work on that type of show

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By *aleforfun22 OP   Man
34 weeks ago

Lancashire

Guess we didn't finish bottom but to get zero points in the second part of the voting seams we are hated.maybe we should stop sending money to all these countries if they hate us so much .

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By *own PeriscopeMan
34 weeks ago

From the island


"We can do well as Sam Ryder showed. If it wasn't for the Ukraine situation I think hevwould have won.

Sadly, this years entry was poor.

I think it was the amount of support we'd given the Ukraine that got us up there, not the other way around "

Exactly this. If the UK hadn't have lead from the front offering support for them even the cheeky Sam Ryder would have been the usual Eurovision ignominy.

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By *aabmanMan
33 weeks ago

bognor regis

Public vote was a real kick in the teeth for UK

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By *icecouple561Couple
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33 weeks ago

East Sussex

We're not in the club any more.

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By *olly MistlehoeWoman
33 weeks ago

Somewhere

On the plus side we'll not be paying to host it anytime soon either. So there's a win I guess

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By *unlovin72Man
33 weeks ago

BARNSLEY

They hate us plus the s##te we pick to represent us

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By *ittlebirdWoman
33 weeks ago

The Big Smoke


"On the plus side we'll not be paying to host it anytime soon either. So there's a win I guess "

This is why we have crap songs. 100%

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By *odgerMooreMan
33 weeks ago

Nowhere

The song was ‘meh’ and there were a lot better singers there than ours - he’s very likeable but he’s average… was still surprised that the viewer vote was so low though….

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By *oubleswing2019Man
33 weeks ago

Colchester


"Public vote was a real kick in the teeth for UK"
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Indeed. I think even Israel got more of a public vote than the UK, and they are prosecuting a war where innocents are sadly dying.

We're considered lower than that.

I believe Switzerland's public vote was the largest.

Which suggests if we want to be admired and respected in the world stage, what we are doing now is clearly not working and perhaps we should be more like Switzerland.

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By *teveuk77Man
33 weeks ago

uk


"Guess we didn't finish bottom but to get zero points in the second part of the voting seams we are hated.maybe we should stop sending money to all these countries if they hate us so much ."

Oh dear...

Reform UK?

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By *scapismXXXMan
33 weeks ago

London

Respectfully.. some of you surely understand that we are still part of Europe irrespective of your EU stance?

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By *scapismXXXMan
33 weeks ago

London

But I personally feel our singers of Eurovision for the past two decades on average are always the slow bland ballad types that never typically do well.

I feel we were unlucky for Sam not to win - he had a lot going for him in terms of character; hair and personality (alongside a great performance).

But on average, I always find it amusing how we lose to countries that are singing a hot tempo song that is not in their native languages, but rather English. You’d think we’d learn our lesson the following year as we have the language upper hand

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
33 weeks ago

Stockport

We put in rubbish bands with rubbish songs. And we've spent the last five years telling all of Europe that we hate them. It's amazing that we ever get a single vote.

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By *arkus1812Man
33 weeks ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

The whole Eurovision set up is well past its sell by date.

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By (user no longer on site)
33 weeks ago

The british entries seem to be completely forgettable musically.

Being different I think helps with this kind of contest.

-I'm thinking of that band that won a while back that were like slipknot crossed with status quo. ( I think they were called lordee or something)

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Guess we didn't finish bottom but to get zero points in the second part of the voting seams we are hated.maybe we should stop sending money to all these countries if they hate us so much ."

We’re sending money to all these countries? Got a lost of the amounts, and why?

And you want to rip it all up because of a naff song contest?

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Respectfully.. some of you surely understand that we are still part of Europe irrespective of your EU stance? "

The Eurovision has extended well behind Europe for a many years now, and has nothing to do with the EU

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Public vote was a real kick in the teeth for UK.

Indeed. I think even Israel got more of a public vote than the UK, and they are prosecuting a war where innocents are sadly dying.

We're considered lower than that.

I believe Switzerland's public vote was the largest.

Which suggests if we want to be admired and respected in the world stage, what we are doing now is clearly not working and perhaps we should be more like Switzerland.

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Winning a popularity contest matters that much to you? Why?

We should change how the country is run so we can do better in the Eurovision? Seriously?

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Guess we didn't finish bottom but to get zero points in the second part of the voting seams we are hated.maybe we should stop sending money to all these countries if they hate us so much .

Oh dear...

Reform UK?"

I’m also interested in hearing details of the amounts being “sent” to all of these countries.

For example, what money are we sending to Switzerland? Luxembourg? Finland? Australia?

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By *exy_HornyCouple
33 weeks ago

Leigh


"Or do we just have bad songs when entering "

Both.

Who chooses the UK entry? There must be better artists and songs than the rubbish we have entered recently.

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By *lynJMan
33 weeks ago

Morden


"Guess we didn't finish bottom but to get zero points in the second part of the voting seams we are hated.maybe we should stop sending money to all these countries if they hate us so much ."

Don't forget the public vote is open to over 100 countries in the rest of the world (as they mentioned several times) - so no-one out there voted for the UK entry.

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By *im_1878Man
33 weeks ago

Formby

No, the song was just s***

I thought it was the worst performance of the night

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Or do we just have bad songs when entering

Both.

Who chooses the UK entry? There must be better artists and songs than the rubbish we have entered recently."

The current process is that the BBC select the entry. Used to be a public vote based on a tv show

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By *iddle ManMan
33 weeks ago

Walsall

I don't understand what we do wrong in the UK. Why does it seem the rest of the world hates us?

I find that hard to believe given every day there are thousands trying to cross the channel to get here?

Genuinely curious why

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"I don't understand what we do wrong in the UK. Why does it seem the rest of the world hates us?

I find that hard to believe given every day there are thousands trying to cross the channel to get here?

Genuinely curious why"

You honestly can’t think of any reasons why Britain is unpopular in Europe? No?

And what do the people on boats have to do with it? Are the boats filled with Germans, Swiss, French etc?

I’m pretty sure those people come from further afield and have bigger concerns than who to vote for in a song contest.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
33 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"No, the song was just s***

I thought it was the worst performance of the night "

Absolutely,I hadn't heard it before last night and thought the whole thing was just lackluster and frankly seedy given some of the flesh on show from others performing ours shone as being seedy rather than sexy.

The vocals were poor,I'm not sure if it was the set or some crafty sound engineer messed with the settings but it sounded muddled.

We just need a fun,easy to get punchy pop song failing that lets just get a group of asylum seekers on stage singing "do they know it's Christmas".

Genuinely tho I can't believe that in the whole of the world not 1 person voted for it, some dodgy shit happened me thinks.

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"No, the song was just s***

I thought it was the worst performance of the night

Absolutely,I hadn't heard it before last night and thought the whole thing was just lackluster and frankly seedy given some of the flesh on show from others performing ours shone as being seedy rather than sexy.

The vocals were poor,I'm not sure if it was the set or some crafty sound engineer messed with the settings but it sounded muddled.

We just need a fun,easy to get punchy pop song failing that lets just get a group of asylum seekers on stage singing "do they know it's Christmas".

Genuinely tho I can't believe that in the whole of the world not 1 person voted for it, some dodgy shit happened me thinks."

You’re suggesting sticking asylum seekers on the stage singing do they know it’s Christmas? Want to rethink that?

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By *inAndTonic21Couple
33 weeks ago

Merseyside

I don’t think we are hated but the song and dancing was a bit too far away from usual Eurovision expectations and that’s where we

Seem to fail.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
33 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"No, the song was just s***

I thought it was the worst performance of the night

Absolutely,I hadn't heard it before last night and thought the whole thing was just lackluster and frankly seedy given some of the flesh on show from others performing ours shone as being seedy rather than sexy.

The vocals were poor,I'm not sure if it was the set or some crafty sound engineer messed with the settings but it sounded muddled.

We just need a fun,easy to get punchy pop song failing that lets just get a group of asylum seekers on stage singing "do they know it's Christmas".

Genuinely tho I can't believe that in the whole of the world not 1 person voted for it, some dodgy shit happened me thinks.

You’re suggesting sticking asylum seekers on the stage singing do they know it’s Christmas? Want to rethink that? "

Naaaaa it's a winning formula

Let's be honest probably a damn site better than the shit last night

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By *onameyet2Man
33 weeks ago

chorley

I know Eurovision is gay as fuck but putting out a shit song backed by gay soft porn didn’t do it for me

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By *ools and the brainCouple
33 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"No, the song was just s***

I thought it was the worst performance of the night

Absolutely,I hadn't heard it before last night and thought the whole thing was just lackluster and frankly seedy given some of the flesh on show from others performing ours shone as being seedy rather than sexy.

The vocals were poor,I'm not sure if it was the set or some crafty sound engineer messed with the settings but it sounded muddled.

We just need a fun,easy to get punchy pop song failing that lets just get a group of asylum seekers on stage singing "do they know it's Christmas".

Genuinely tho I can't believe that in the whole of the world not 1 person voted for it, some dodgy shit happened me thinks.

You’re suggesting sticking asylum seekers on the stage singing do they know it’s Christmas? Want to rethink that?

Naaaaa it's a winning formula

Let's be honest probably a damn site better than the shit last night "

Ok then.

Let's get Adele up there too sing a power ballad.

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"I know Eurovision is gay as fuck but putting out a shit song backed by gay soft porn didn’t do it for me "

You have a problem with gay people?

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By *idnight RamblerMan
33 weeks ago

Pershore

Both. The show has become way too politicised and we should withdraw in future years.

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
33 weeks ago

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In my opinion it was just a bad song and a sub standard performance

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
33 weeks ago

chichester

I don’t think the UK remotely take the contest seriously in the way many countries do.

It’s all just abit of tongue cheek fun

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By *onameyet2Man
33 weeks ago

chorley

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By *ivemealadybonerWoman
33 weeks ago

somewhere

We could have Ed Sheeran (or whichever singer that is very popular all over the world) and we still wouldn't win. The only reason we came 2nd a couple of years ago is because of how much we helped Ukraine, not for that god awful song.

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By *onameyet2Man
33 weeks ago

chorley


"I know Eurovision is gay as fuck but putting out a shit song backed by gay soft porn didn’t do it for me

You have a problem with gay people?"

Not at all I’ve fucked loads of them, which bit of my post is homophobic?

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By *onameyet2Man
33 weeks ago

chorley

Couldn’t we get Black Sabbath to re-form for next year

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By *avexxMan
33 weeks ago

cheshire

we should have had sir cliff richard singing for us he would have made the place rock

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By *onameyet2Man
33 weeks ago

chorley

Yes, he’d get the gay vote too

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By *ocktoplaywithMan
33 weeks ago

Derby


"We can do well as Sam Ryder showed. If it wasn't for the Ukraine situation I think hevwould have won.

Sadly, this years entry was poor.

I think it was the amount of support we'd given the Ukraine that got us up there, not the other way around "

Quite agree. Ukraine only won because of their situation, and our involvement put us where we were.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
33 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

I think we need to embrace the crass and camp nature of the whole thing.

Go full on with something sooo over the top, just to show how seriously we take it.

If we showed we don’t give a shit they would probably start voting for us.

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By *onameyet2Man
33 weeks ago

chorley

Look you lot, it’s like top of the pops, it’s shit and the songs are shit but we still watch it

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By *onameyet2Man
33 weeks ago

chorley


"I think we need to embrace the crass and camp nature of the whole thing.

Go full on with something sooo over the top, just to show how seriously we take it.

If we showed we don’t give a shit they would probably start voting for us."

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By *eroLondonMan
33 weeks ago

Mayfair


"We're not in the club any more. "

The UK is in a 'club' of sorts because they are part of the "Big Five" along with France, Germany, Spain and Italy: with the UK giving financial support to the Eurovision, since its inception.

Crudely and humourously put: we are perhaps paying to make ourselves look somewhat naive. Pulling out altogether would probably smack of sour grapes.

Let's maintain our stiff upper lips.

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By *ornucopiaMan
33 weeks ago

Bexley


"The whole Eurovision set up is well past its sell by date."

Thus speaks a

kindred spirit. I thought I might be the only perceptive person on here.

It was tripe from its inception and it didn't take some of us long to realise that.

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"I think we need to embrace the crass and camp nature of the whole thing.

Go full on with something sooo over the top, just to show how seriously we take it.

If we showed we don’t give a shit they would probably start voting for us."

This year’s entry didn’t do it for you then?

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By *ools and the brainCouple
33 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"We're not in the club any more.

The UK is in a 'club' of sorts because they are part of the "Big Five" along with France, Germany, Spain and Italy: with the UK giving financial support to the Eurovision, since its inception.

Crudely and humourously put: we are perhaps paying to make ourselves look somewhat naive. Pulling out altogether would probably smack of sour grapes.

Let's maintain our stiff upper lips."

Well said.

Perhaps we can persuade the spice girls to sing us a song.

Question:

Do the Americans watch Eurovision and what do they make of it?

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By *octor ProdMan
33 weeks ago

working Overseas

Its that expensive to host, we keep semding a My Lovely Horse entry.

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By *enhamhoopMan
33 weeks ago

Denham

To be fair we did more or less vote telling them we don't like them and can they all not come here. Pretty unlikely to put us on their Xmas card list oh and our song was poor terribly sung and maybe the cottaging scene probably didn't help

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By *a LunaWoman
33 weeks ago

South Wales

We take it far too seriously.

Other Countries put out some right bizarre entries and they do really well!

I didn’t particularly like our entry song this year. Tried to be too chart worthy.

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By (user no longer on site)
33 weeks ago

What the UK needs

Is a proper rock band Not these stupid acts I can see it next year.Sam smith will do it god help us

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By *ools and the brainCouple
33 weeks ago

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"To be fair we did more or less vote telling them we don't like them and can they all not come here. Pretty unlikely to put us on their Xmas card list oh and our song was poor terribly sung and maybe the cottaging scene probably didn't help"

It's probably more to do with the hordes of d*unk Brit's flocking to the sunshine every year and acting like a bunch of pissed up assholes and having no respect for the country we are visiting add the way football hooligans act and the arrogance of our politicians the fact that your average Brit makes zero effort to learn anything about language and culture from other countries,we are rude , obnoxious and ignorant.

What's not to like

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By (user no longer on site)
33 weeks ago

The UK song was shockingly bad. And the vocals were performed poorly live.

Hard to believe from such a seasoned professional tbh

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By *TG3Man
33 weeks ago

Dorchester

I've never watched it not generally my style of music but i would have thought that our music thats normally played on radio and in the clubs and at the gigs is universally popular, the music that we produce for eurovision not so

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By *hristopherd999Man
33 weeks ago

Brentwood

It doesn't matter what song or who sings it, UK will never win as it's all political

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By *olly MistlehoeWoman
33 weeks ago

Somewhere


"Or do we just have bad songs when entering

Both.

Who chooses the UK entry? There must be better artists and songs than the rubbish we have entered recently.

The current process is that the BBC select the entry. Used to be a public vote based on a tv show "

Yes, but we used to cock that up too! Unbelievable we voted against a 2005 entry from a pregnant Katie Price

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By *ldgeezermeMan
33 weeks ago

Throckley


"To be fair we did more or less vote telling them we don't like them and can they all not come here. Pretty unlikely to put us on their Xmas card list oh and our song was poor terribly sung and maybe the cottaging scene probably didn't help

It's probably more to do with the hordes of d*unk Brit's flocking to the sunshine every year and acting like a bunch of pissed up assholes and having no respect for the country we are visiting add the way football hooligans act and the arrogance of our politicians the fact that your average Brit makes zero effort to learn anything about language and culture from other countries,we are rude , obnoxious and ignorant.

What's not to like "

So clean up your act and we might be in with a chance

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By *asycouple1971Couple
33 weeks ago

midlands

Shit song shit singer shit act.

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By *eiaorganaWoman
33 weeks ago

Dundee


"I don't understand what we do wrong in the UK. Why does it seem the rest of the world hates us?

I find that hard to believe given every day there are thousands trying to cross the channel to get here?

Genuinely curious why"

The UK has had short shift at Eurovision ever since we helped the US invade Afghanistan so it's been going on for a long time.

Hilariously the EBU is currently shouting about being apolitical, yet they have stamped down on any pro-Palestinian signs/comments/clothing. They do not get to bar Russia for attacking Ukraine and then welcome Israel for doing the exact same thing to Palestine. Hypocrites of the highest order. Which is why I didn't watch or attend my friend's party this year.

And it wasn't that long ago that Europe watched us commit the biggest act of self harm a country has ever done with Brexit. They think we're all xenophobic Little Englanders - why shouldn't they hate us?

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By *ldgeezermeMan
33 weeks ago

Throckley


"I don't understand what we do wrong in the UK. Why does it seem the rest of the world hates us?

I find that hard to believe given every day there are thousands trying to cross the channel to get here?

Genuinely curious why

The UK has had short shift at Eurovision ever since we helped the US invade Afghanistan so it's been going on for a long time.

Hilariously the EBU is currently shouting about being apolitical, yet they have stamped down on any pro-Palestinian signs/comments/clothing. They do not get to bar Russia for attacking Ukraine and then welcome Israel for doing the exact same thing to Palestine. Hypocrites of the highest order. Which is why I didn't watch or attend my friend's party this year.

And it wasn't that long ago that Europe watched us commit the biggest act of self harm a country has ever done with Brexit. They think we're all xenophobic Little Englanders - why shouldn't they hate us?

"

Have you told tbe EBU that you boycotted your friends party?

It could make a difference

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By *ustincamebridgeCouple
33 weeks ago

manchester

The English are hated everywhere. Even in the uk

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By *entBarryUKMan
33 weeks ago

Ashford

Eurovision has become pretty much a political statement from the other countries to say FU to the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
33 weeks ago

It's crazy "to hate" anybody or anything...!

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By *ee69Man
33 weeks ago

glasgow

Both but it a load a shite Tbf lol

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By *os19Man
33 weeks ago

Edmonton

Over the years the UK songs have not been that bad but I do feel they don’t get enough points / votes as there is a political agenda. I can remember Eurovision Song Contest from the late 70’s early 80’s and most of the contestants sang in their own language now a days it seems to have gone the other way.

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By *abioMan
33 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Or do we just have bad songs when entering "

It’s a combination of shit song.. and shit singing

No offence.. at points yesterday I did wonder if he was singing in tune

You get a good song with a good singer.. like Sam Ryder… and we will do well!

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By *obilebottomMan
33 weeks ago

All over


"Over the years the UK songs have not been that bad but I do feel they don’t get enough points / votes as there is a political agenda. I can remember Eurovision Song Contest from the late 70’s early 80’s and most of the contestants sang in their own language now a days it seems to have gone the other way."

Tbh I ptobably would prefer if they still sang in their own language

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By *oharleyMan
33 weeks ago

Hexham


"Or do we just have bad songs when entering "

I doubt we’re hated, it’s more jealousy in my opinion as we have a far better music industry than the rest of Europe together.

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By *endalshaggersCouple
33 weeks ago

Kendal

I always used to love Eurovision but lately it's seemingly got more and more toxic.

Yes, I'm used to UK doing shite. Generally it's because we have a shite song. It used to be so painfully obvious everyone voted for their neighbours to keep the peace. The last two or three shows have not been as bad for that as they have been but still. It's a popularity contest at the end of the day and we'd never win it again - we could enter a world famous musician like Ed Sheeran with a half decent song and probably not win. No one likes us. Yet we'll always enter as we're one of the "big 5" that contribute ££££ into it so the EBU would have a fit if we dropped out.

What has annoyed me recently (never mind the EBU being "anti polictical" yet so many double standards the past two years) is that you can't really hear the singing. It seems the backing music is turned way too loud and the stage effects/dancing is OTT and the actual music is second nature at best.

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33 weeks ago

It's criminal to allow political agendas to interfere in the decision making of what should solely be based on the talents of the performers ability to sing song. Nothing is what it seems nowadays. Sooner or later we will be voting for A.I. over the voice of a real person.

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By *ilentrunningMan
33 weeks ago

Cardiff/Reading/Liverpool &more

I don’t think we are the most popular in the contest to say the least but good songs will get points and this years wasn’t good.

Olly is a bit of a darling of the beebs and I think they severely over estimated his popularity

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By *ldgeezermeMan
33 weeks ago

Throckley


"...the stage effects/dancing is OTT and the actual music is second nature at best. "

I blame Bucks Fizz

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By *alandNitaCouple
33 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

It's quite obvious that "in general" Eurovision is mainly an international popularity contest, a REALLY good song can bypass this, but it needs to be exceptional.

My question us "how do we improve the world view of The Uk"?

Cal

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
33 weeks ago

North West


"Or do we just have bad songs when entering

It’s a combination of shit song.. and shit singing

No offence.. at points yesterday I did wonder if he was singing in tune

You get a good song with a good singer.. like Sam Ryder… and we will do well! "

Agree on this, Fabio. Graham N was hyping up the UK entry, we'd never heard it before (yes!) and honestly? We thought it was terrible. Out of tune and a tepid song in any case.

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By *eigh2019TV/TS
33 weeks ago

Chingford

Hated everywhere not just that silly contest.

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By *uckurcumMan
33 weeks ago

Bishop Auckland

The whole thing has become a shit show ...

It's a platform for politics,woke idealism and most of the other crap thrown in for good measure ...

Hardly Eurovision when Australia can take part,and I've nothing against our antipodean cousins ...

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By (user no longer on site)
33 weeks ago


"The whole thing has become a shit show ...

It's a platform for politics,woke idealism and most of the other crap thrown in for good measure ...

Hardly Eurovision when Australia can take part,and I've nothing against our antipodean cousins ..."

UK shouldn't automatically qualify for the final either.

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Or do we just have bad songs when entering

I doubt we’re hated, it’s more jealousy in my opinion as we have a far better music industry than the rest of Europe together. "

I’m pretty sure nobody was jealous of this year’s entry.

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"It's criminal to allow political agendas to interfere in the decision making of what should solely be based on the talents of the performers ability to sing song. Nothing is what it seems nowadays. Sooner or later we will be voting for A.I. over the voice of a real person."

Criminal?

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"The whole thing has become a shit show ...

It's a platform for politics,woke idealism and most of the other crap thrown in for good measure ...

Hardly Eurovision when Australia can take part,and I've nothing against our antipodean cousins ...

UK shouldn't automatically qualify for the final either. "

How else would they get through?

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By *lbertcrinkleMan
33 weeks ago

Wakefield

We habitually enter "sub standard" songs. Sure politics rears its ugly head but that doesn't just affect the UK.

Our songs and often acts are simply poor.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
33 weeks ago

Pershore

This is Europe for you. They can't even organise a pop song competition. How to you expect a European-wide superstate to go?

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By *obilebottomMan
33 weeks ago

All over

Most people who enjoy eurovision do so for many of those reasons others are complaning about. Personally I would prefer if it was all in the original language as it used to be and also did not try to modernise it too much. It is just a party, not a high brow music talent show. A bit of spring fiesta. A pot pouri of eccentricity mixed with occassionally sone good songs too. We like those on holiday as are something different. Sometimes we join in and other times we just watch tbe spectacle and certainly don't want them everyday. I also wish they kept the old and longer voting style on, so much more fun. Now is done and dustes I can carry on playing whatever music I like that suits my mood, taste and I intellectual prowess.

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By *eiaorganaWoman
33 weeks ago

Dundee


"I don't understand what we do wrong in the UK. Why does it seem the rest of the world hates us?

I find that hard to believe given every day there are thousands trying to cross the channel to get here?

Genuinely curious why

The UK has had short shift at Eurovision ever since we helped the US invade Afghanistan so it's been going on for a long time.

Hilariously the EBU is currently shouting about being apolitical, yet they have stamped down on any pro-Palestinian signs/comments/clothing. They do not get to bar Russia for attacking Ukraine and then welcome Israel for doing the exact same thing to Palestine. Hypocrites of the highest order. Which is why I didn't watch or attend my friend's party this year.

And it wasn't that long ago that Europe watched us commit the biggest act of self harm a country has ever done with Brexit. They think we're all xenophobic Little Englanders - why shouldn't they hate us?

Have you told tbe EBU that you boycotted your friends party?

It could make a difference"

Ignoring the sarcasm, not watching the show was the bare minimum that someone can do. Viewing figures would speak for themselves. I choose not to support events/companies that are cool with genocide but you do you

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By *eiaorganaWoman
33 weeks ago

Dundee


"Over the years the UK songs have not been that bad but I do feel they don’t get enough points / votes as there is a political agenda. I can remember Eurovision Song Contest from the late 70’s early 80’s and most of the contestants sang in their own language now a days it seems to have gone the other way."

Yeah, part of the fun was putting the subtitles on!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
33 weeks ago

North West


"Over the years the UK songs have not been that bad but I do feel they don’t get enough points / votes as there is a political agenda. I can remember Eurovision Song Contest from the late 70’s early 80’s and most of the contestants sang in their own language now a days it seems to have gone the other way.

Yeah, part of the fun was putting the subtitles on!"

Subtitles this year were way behind and translated the text so you didn't see both the native language and the English translation. I Googled the songs instead and then used the Translate page option. It worked.

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By *eavilMan
33 weeks ago

Stalybridge

Eurovision is so past its sell by date. All if the acts are trying to out weird the others. Time to walk away and let the lunatics run the asylum.

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By *etblanketMan
33 weeks ago

Near Newcastle

Many other countries fail at Eurovision every year and I have never seen their people wonder if 100 other countries might hate them.

We are talking about hundreds of millions of people; if everyone hates the UK, the UK may have done something wrong?.

On the other hand, if Brits mistakenly believe that hundreds of people hate them, we should consider what are we doing wrong anyway?

I think many people might vote using affection to other countries, or political situation, but to me the main reason is the song.

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By (user no longer on site)
33 weeks ago


"It's criminal to allow political agendas to interfere in the decision making of what should solely be based on the talents of the performers ability to sing song. Nothing is what it seems nowadays. Sooner or later we will be voting for A.I. over the voice of a real person.

Criminal?

"

Public wrong, knowing the judgement is somewhat biased and based on favouritism rather than talent, etc.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
33 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

I have liked Olly Alexander in other contexts.

My honest critique of last nights performance ( I only watched ours no others )

Poor singing. Jarring Visuals. Sleazy. Non catchy song. Aimed at a certain audience.

Or in easier parlance SHITE

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
33 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

I actually phyiscally cringed at the voice, the song and the choreography

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By *ornucopiaMan
33 weeks ago

Bexley


"What the UK needs

Is a proper rock band Not these stupid acts I can see it next year.Sam smith will do it god help us "

Proper rock bands don't need the Urovision(sic) song contest. This is for boy bands and the muzak trade.

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By *ot to giggleWoman
33 weeks ago

Coventry

think we over think it - UK is not this big superpower in europe or anywhere - its just another small country with big boy ideas - no one in Europe is remotely interested (general population).

The song last night was poor quality - weak sound and vocals, sorry - if they were going to do skimpy clothing then go skimpy - there were plenty of bottoms on show.

It needs to be more fun, UK need to let their hair down and go totally nuts about it like everyone else

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By (user no longer on site)
33 weeks ago

Pop music with idiotic lyrics is what the Eurovision Song contest is.

We in the UK take pride in not winning that contest.

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By *ed VoluptaWoman
33 weeks ago

Wirral.


"I actually phyiscally cringed at the voice, the song and the choreography "

It was, as you said Granny, sleazy. Plenty of cheeky nudity on show last night that was fun and/or gimmicky. He got the wrong memo.

Oh, and his voice was pretty dire, too.

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By *ornucopiaMan
33 weeks ago

Bexley


"This is Europe for you. They can't even organise a pop song competition. How to you expect a European-wide superstate to go? "

That's the spirit!

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"This is Europe for you. They can't even organise a pop song competition. How to you expect a European-wide superstate to go? "

They can’t organise a song contest? They did!

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"It's criminal to allow political agendas to interfere in the decision making of what should solely be based on the talents of the performers ability to sing song. Nothing is what it seems nowadays. Sooner or later we will be voting for A.I. over the voice of a real person.

Criminal?

Public wrong, knowing the judgement is somewhat biased and based on favouritism rather than talent, etc.

"

Not exactly “criminal” though …

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By *ools and the brainCouple
33 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

On the plus side plenty of crumpet to letch over.

Shwing

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By (user no longer on site)
33 weeks ago


"It's criminal to allow political agendas to interfere in the decision making of what should solely be based on the talents of the performers ability to sing song. Nothing is what it seems nowadays. Sooner or later we will be voting for A.I. over the voice of a real person.

Criminal?

Public wrong, knowing the judgement is somewhat biased and based on favouritism rather than talent, etc.

Not exactly “criminal” though … "

Depends on perspective, knowing it's wrong and allowing the Governing bodies to get away with their decision is public wrong, which is criminal. Life's too short to worry about such trivia. Much more important issues in need of address, criminal acts we can spend a whole lifetime trying to fight and still not come out on top...!

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By *ldgeezermeMan
33 weeks ago

Throckley


"I don't understand what we do wrong in the UK. Why does it seem the rest of the world hates us?

I find that hard to believe given every day there are thousands trying to cross the channel to get here?

Genuinely curious why

The UK has had short shift at Eurovision ever since we helped the US invade Afghanistan so it's been going on for a long time.

Hilariously the EBU is currently shouting about being apolitical, yet they have stamped down on any pro-Palestinian signs/comments/clothing. They do not get to bar Russia for attacking Ukraine and then welcome Israel for doing the exact same thing to Palestine. Hypocrites of the highest order. Which is why I didn't watch or attend my friend's party this year.

And it wasn't that long ago that Europe watched us commit the biggest act of self harm a country has ever done with Brexit. They think we're all xenophobic Little Englanders - why shouldn't they hate us?

Have you told tbe EBU that you boycotted your friends party?

It could make a difference

Ignoring the sarcasm, not watching the show was the bare minimum that someone can do. Viewing figures would speak for themselves. I choose not to support events/companies that are cool with genocide but you do you "

Anyone who watched is cool with genocide

Got it

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"It's criminal to allow political agendas to interfere in the decision making of what should solely be based on the talents of the performers ability to sing song. Nothing is what it seems nowadays. Sooner or later we will be voting for A.I. over the voice of a real person.

Criminal?

Public wrong, knowing the judgement is somewhat biased and based on favouritism rather than talent, etc.

Not exactly “criminal” though …

Depends on perspective, knowing it's wrong and allowing the Governing bodies to get away with their decision is public wrong, which is criminal. Life's too short to worry about such trivia. Much more important issues in need of address, criminal acts we can spend a whole lifetime trying to fight and still not come out on top...!

"

If you really think it is criminal, please let me know which criminal law you think is being broken . Can’t see it myself

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By *ohnSwingsSurreyMan
33 weeks ago

Horley

We need to re-animate Sir Cliff

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33 weeks ago


"It's criminal to allow political agendas to interfere in the decision making of what should solely be based on the talents of the performers ability to sing song. Nothing is what it seems nowadays. Sooner or later we will be voting for A.I. over the voice of a real person.

Criminal?

Public wrong, knowing the judgement is somewhat biased and based on favouritism rather than talent, etc.

Not exactly “criminal” though …

Depends on perspective, knowing it's wrong and allowing the Governing bodies to get away with their decision is public wrong, which is criminal. Life's too short to worry about such trivia. Much more important issues in need of address, criminal acts we can spend a whole lifetime trying to fight and still not come out on top...!

If you really think it is criminal, please let me know which criminal law you think is being broken . Can’t see it myself "

Section 114 The Criminal Justice Act 2003 (CJA 2003)

Still trying to find the witnesses

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By *emma HoldenTV/TS
33 weeks ago

Ramsey

Austria & Cyprus had great songs but neither did well either. Don't get it. Partly voting for close neighbours by many countries & we don't want to join in anything European in politics so we reap what we sow. And I'd have voted leave if I could have done.

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By *eiaorganaWoman
33 weeks ago

Dundee


"I don't understand what we do wrong in the UK. Why does it seem the rest of the world hates us?

I find that hard to believe given every day there are thousands trying to cross the channel to get here?

Genuinely curious why

The UK has had short shift at Eurovision ever since we helped the US invade Afghanistan so it's been going on for a long time.

Hilariously the EBU is currently shouting about being apolitical, yet they have stamped down on any pro-Palestinian signs/comments/clothing. They do not get to bar Russia for attacking Ukraine and then welcome Israel for doing the exact same thing to Palestine. Hypocrites of the highest order. Which is why I didn't watch or attend my friend's party this year.

And it wasn't that long ago that Europe watched us commit the biggest act of self harm a country has ever done with Brexit. They think we're all xenophobic Little Englanders - why shouldn't they hate us?

Have you told tbe EBU that you boycotted your friends party?

It could make a difference

Ignoring the sarcasm, not watching the show was the bare minimum that someone can do. Viewing figures would speak for themselves. I choose not to support events/companies that are cool with genocide but you do you

Anyone who watched is cool with genocide

Got it "

Continue to deliberately misquote me, you're just showing your arse

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By *axyMan
33 weeks ago

Great Ayton

Absolutely. We all know that!

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By *urreypair1Couple
33 weeks ago

Shrewsbury

It's a combination of things as always.

The jury vote gives you an idea of the eurovisioness of the entry which needs to hit the mood of the moment which Switzerland certainly did.

The public vote gives more of a mix of a great catchy song vs the perception by the public of our country.

Did anyone notice we were the only country to give Israel 12 points ? Again missing the mood of the world generally whatever your personal stance.

I think the way we approach eurovision is wrong.

As a country we do love it.

You only have to realise there were more brits than swedes in the arena last week.

Overall our perception on the world stage was reflected by the public vote.

That coupled with our current ability by those choosing our entry to understand the concept.

Personally Croatia was far more eurovision than Switzerlands entry .

But hey let's not take it all to seriously , because the whole spirit should be fun.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
33 weeks ago

chichester


"It's crazy "to hate" anybody or anything...!"

Unless it’s the French

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By *ickeyblueeyes7Man
33 weeks ago

newport

Who really gives a fuck it’s all just a pile of self indulgence crap

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By *TG3Man
33 weeks ago

Dorchester

Simple answer is yes we are, sorted

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Who really gives a fuck it’s all just a pile of self indulgence crap"

If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. But not sure why you feel the need to be so offensive about an event that millions of other people enjoy

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By *antam AvershiresMan
33 weeks ago

Falme

What I want to know is with an the AI and hologram technology surely it must be a simple matter for the UK to reclaim its superiority at Eurovision by brining back Wogan?

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"What I want to know is with an the AI and hologram technology surely it must be a simple matter for the UK to reclaim its superiority at Eurovision by brining back Wogan?

"

Didn’t win it much when Wogan was in charge either.

More idea though, claiming UK superiority based on the efforts of an Irish presenter!

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By *ldgeezermeMan
33 weeks ago

Throckley


"I don't understand what we do wrong in the UK. Why does it seem the rest of the world hates us?

I find that hard to believe given every day there are thousands trying to cross the channel to get here?

Genuinely curious why

The UK has had short shift at Eurovision ever since we helped the US invade Afghanistan so it's been going on for a long time.

Hilariously the EBU is currently shouting about being apolitical, yet they have stamped down on any pro-Palestinian signs/comments/clothing. They do not get to bar Russia for attacking Ukraine and then welcome Israel for doing the exact same thing to Palestine. Hypocrites of the highest order. Which is why I didn't watch or attend my friend's party this year.

And it wasn't that long ago that Europe watched us commit the biggest act of self harm a country has ever done with Brexit. They think we're all xenophobic Little Englanders - why shouldn't they hate us?

Have you told tbe EBU that you boycotted your friends party?

It could make a difference

Ignoring the sarcasm, not watching the show was the bare minimum that someone can do. Viewing figures would speak for themselves. I choose not to support events/companies that are cool with genocide but you do you

Anyone who watched is cool with genocide

Got it

Continue to deliberately misquote me, you're just showing your arse "

Except of course I didn't:

"not watching the show was the bare minimum that someone can do. Viewing figures would speak for themselves. I choose not to support events/companies that are cool with genocide but you do you"

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By *antam AvershiresMan
33 weeks ago

Falme


"What I want to know is with an the AI and hologram technology surely it must be a simple matter for the UK to reclaim its superiority at Eurovision by brining back Wogan?

Didn’t win it much when Wogan was in charge either.

More idea though, claiming UK superiority based on the efforts of an Irish presenter! "

I purely meant superiority for the audience at home, I'm sure no other country had such good commentary.

And as an Irishman I fully agree that Norton was a suitable replacement, not sure about Rylan

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By *r X46Man
33 weeks ago

Liverpool

Traditionally, Germany usually score poorly and have only ever won the thing twice.

This year's UK entry was very poor. I knew after listening to about 5 seconds of it that it was it was not going to do well.

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By (user no longer on site)
33 weeks ago

Is the uk hated?

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By *antam AvershiresMan
33 weeks ago

Falme

Just waiting for one year for one country to enter a song called My Lovely Horse just for a laugh

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By *andydan69Man
33 weeks ago

south west nr you mmm

Dunno y we bother we are hated apart from the benefits n houses n money we give alot of these countries stop all aid & fuck euro vision shit

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By *ackformore100Man
33 weeks ago

Tin town


"Or do we just have bad songs when entering "

Lets face it, the song is irrlevant. It's political and they kicking us. It really is a bag of shite though so can't say it exercises me.

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By *ornucopiaMan
33 weeks ago

Bexley


"What I want to know is with an the AI and hologram technology surely it must be a simple matter for the UK to reclaim its superiority at Eurovision by brining back Wogan?

"

Was Wogan ever on there? I'm glad I gave up watching it even before then!

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"What I want to know is with an the AI and hologram technology surely it must be a simple matter for the UK to reclaim its superiority at Eurovision by brining back Wogan?

Didn’t win it much when Wogan was in charge either.

More idea though, claiming UK superiority based on the efforts of an Irish presenter!

I purely meant superiority for the audience at home, I'm sure no other country had such good commentary.

And as an Irishman I fully agree that Norton was a suitable replacement, not sure about Rylan"

Norton is the perfect replacement.

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Dunno y we bother we are hated apart from the benefits n houses n money we give alot of these countries stop all aid & fuck euro vision shit "

Eh?

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"Or do we just have bad songs when entering

Lets face it, the song is irrlevant. It's political and they kicking us. It really is a bag of shite though so can't say it exercises me. "

It’s a bit of both. Part popularity contest, part song contest. A popular country with a shite song will do badly.

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"What I want to know is with an the AI and hologram technology surely it must be a simple matter for the UK to reclaim its superiority at Eurovision by brining back Wogan?

Was Wogan ever on there? I'm glad I gave up watching it even before then!"

He presented for decades. You must have given up around the time Sandy Shaw won

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By *lue Eyed JokerMan
33 weeks ago

Always on the move

I don't think we're hated, I just think the songs we've entered for the last few decades have been utterly shit

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By *sleWightCoupleCouple
33 weeks ago

Ryde

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By *sleWightCoupleCouple
33 weeks ago

Ryde

For us not to receive any points from the phone-in votes, we should ask one particular country three things:

1) Are you enjoying the aid and money you're being given?

2) How did you like the really expensive concert the UK put on last year courtesy of its taxpayers?

and

3) How are those weapons which seemingly grow on trees working out for you?

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By *teveanddebsCouple
33 weeks ago

Norwich

It's only fair, a lot of us detest Eurovision.

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"For us not to receive any points from the phone-in votes, we should ask one particular country three things:

1) Are you enjoying the aid and money you're being given?

2) How did you like the really expensive concert the UK put on last year courtesy of its taxpayers?

and

3) How are those weapons which seemingly grow on trees working out for you?"

What’s they got to do with a song contest?

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"For us not to receive any points from the phone-in votes, we should ask one particular country three things:

1) Are you enjoying the aid and money you're being given?

2) How did you like the really expensive concert the UK put on last year courtesy of its taxpayers?

and

3) How are those weapons which seemingly grow on trees working out for you?"

The UK is giving aid to all the other countries? Switzerland? Finland? Australia? Do you have the numbers / details?

And the UK is supplying arms to all those countries as well?

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By *hristopherd999Man
33 weeks ago

Brentwood


"For us not to receive any points from the phone-in votes, we should ask one particular country three things:

1) Are you enjoying the aid and money you're being given?

2) How did you like the really expensive concert the UK put on last year courtesy of its taxpayers?

and

3) How are those weapons which seemingly grow on trees working out for you?

What’s they got to do with a song contest? "

Politics

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By *rauntonbananaMan
33 weeks ago

Braunton

If they hate us it’s a result. The concept is outdated, stomach turning, political posturing, had its day, creepy and cretinous… apart from that, it’s marvellous

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"For us not to receive any points from the phone-in votes, we should ask one particular country three things:

1) Are you enjoying the aid and money you're being given?

2) How did you like the really expensive concert the UK put on last year courtesy of its taxpayers?

and

3) How are those weapons which seemingly grow on trees working out for you?

What’s they got to do with a song contest?

Politics"

The poster’s logic appears to be “we sold you guns so you should vote for our song”.

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By *ripfillMan
33 weeks ago

Paris, New York, Hong Kong and Havant

It was a poor song etc … but it’s a result because we couldn’t afford to host it if we would have won !

Anyway dropping out of the EU. Was stupid and it’s yet another joke on us

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"It was a poor song etc … but it’s a result because we couldn’t afford to host it if we would have won !

Anyway dropping out of the EU. Was stupid and it’s yet another joke on us "

Couldn’t afford to host it? Seriously? How much do you think it costs to host?

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By *pecialdaysMan
33 weeks ago

oxford


"It's a weird one. I always thought we were hated but we did so well in 2022 with Sam Ryder. Was it just a one off or was there something more to that?"
We were very sympathetic to the Ukraine mainly in supplying them with arms last yr, that goes a long way in political votes which makes up 85% of Eurovision votes. Generally we are hated

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By *TG3Man
33 weeks ago

Dorchester


"For us not to receive any points from the phone-in votes, we should ask one particular country three things:

1) Are you enjoying the aid and money you're being given?

2) How did you like the really expensive concert the UK put on last year courtesy of its taxpayers?

and

3) How are those weapons which seemingly grow on trees working out for you?

The UK is giving aid to all the other countries? Switzerland? Finland? Australia? Do you have the numbers / details?

And the UK is supplying arms to all those countries as well? "

and legs

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By *ools and the brainCouple
33 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

I'm still finding it hard to believe that not one person in that whole TV audience didn't vote for united kingdom surely some patriotic ex pat living abroad or military personnel stationed abroad??

Not a single vote!!!

Seems very suspicious,ok the song was diabolically shit and the performance was like some cheesy boxing club cottaging 80's style video but still NIL points?

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By *ackformore100Man
33 weeks ago

Tin town


"I'm still finding it hard to believe that not one person in that whole TV audience didn't vote for united kingdom surely some patriotic ex pat living abroad or military personnel stationed abroad??

Not a single vote!!!

Seems very suspicious,ok the song was diabolically shit and the performance was like some cheesy boxing club cottaging 80's style video but still NIL points?"

It's a fair point obediah.

Maybe we should do a better job of selecting our competitors and songs to submit for this incredibly important event.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
33 weeks ago

cahoots

Just found this on the interweb...

Each nations votes are given out as 12 10 8 etc like the juries. The song that get the most votes get 12 points and so on.

Then all points from all countries is added together and given out as a lump sum.

...so in short the UK could have been voted for but not enough to get any points.

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By *ormerWelshcouple2020Man
33 weeks ago

Stourbridge

I thought it was a very poor song,very poor singer and very poor performance. He couldn’t hide behind massive vocal manipulation and auto tune , the performance was frankly crap. It was set in a public toilet for gay sex. Not family friendly Eurovision.

Crap program funded mainly by the BBC which is why we aren’t relegated.

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By *elticGent2024Man
33 weeks ago

Kempston


"Generally we are hated "

I’m an immigrant living in the UK, and from my point of view and experience, the UK is not hated. It is however bit off a laughing stock, and considered arrogant and out of touch by many. Brexit didn’t help, and the posturing, pronouncements and attitudes of many out of touch British politicians reinforce the views of many other nations towards the UK. Hated? No! But certainly long since the global power it thinks it is.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
33 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"Just found this on the interweb...

Each nations votes are given out as 12 10 8 etc like the juries. The song that get the most votes get 12 points and so on.

Then all points from all countries is added together and given out as a lump sum.

...so in short the UK could have been voted for but not enough to get any points."

On the panel yes but the public vote can't be done that way

Tbh I couldn't give two hoots if we win or not I've always watched it for a few reasons, cringe value, entertainment value and shwing value.

But it all seems to be getting far too professional and produced I preferred the amateur nonsense of yesteryear.

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By *og-ManMan
33 weeks ago

somewhere

The people of The UK are not hated in my opinion but your government politicians are feckin arseholes who do their best to put down other nationalities at every opportunity they can.

Thats the impression that's remembered when it comes to issue's like this

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By *immyinreadingMan
33 weeks ago

henley on thames


"I'm still finding it hard to believe that not one person in that whole TV audience didn't vote for united kingdom surely some patriotic ex pat living abroad or military personnel stationed abroad??

Not a single vote!!!

Seems very suspicious,ok the song was diabolically shit and the performance was like some cheesy boxing club cottaging 80's style video but still NIL points?"

Seems suspicious? Go on then, what are your suspicions please

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By *ave05Man
33 weeks ago

Chelmsford Essex

When you look back to Sam Ryder the set was simplistic but effective and just a great infectious song brilliant vocal and the electric guitar crescendo- so we can be Top 5 finishers

Olly was poor vocally way too much set complexity that apparently meant for the first 2 minutes the audience couldn’t clearly see him and the sleazy locker room theme ( yawn) and weak tune overall sent us crashing.

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By *ed VoluptaWoman
33 weeks ago

Wirral.


"Just found this on the interweb...

Each nations votes are given out as 12 10 8 etc like the juries. The song that get the most votes get 12 points and so on.

Then all points from all countries is added together and given out as a lump sum.

...so in short the UK could have been voted for but not enough to get any points.

On the panel yes but the public vote can't be done that way

Tbh I couldn't give two hoots if we win or not I've always watched it for a few reasons, cringe value, entertainment value and shwing value.

But it all seems to be getting far too professional and produced I preferred the amateur nonsense of yesteryear.

"

And Sir Terry. Getting more and more pissed as the night went on

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By *melia DominaTV/TS
33 weeks ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)


"Yes and yes "

Yes and yes.

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By *ed MartinMan
33 weeks ago

Shefford


"We're not in the club any more. "

Israel and Australia aren’t in the Europe club either- geographically or politico-economically, and we’ve always done badly in Eurovision even before Brexit, so it can’t be that!

The bigger question is why we even give a shit- it’s a batshit crazy competition for batshit crazy, third rate music acts and the only thing that made the show watchable was Wogan getting more and more pissed and sarcastic as the night went on, and that’s gone now!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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33 weeks ago

East Sussex

I think the British hugely over estimate the esteem in which the rest of the world holds them...

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By *icecouple561Couple
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33 weeks ago

East Sussex

Then it comes as a big shock when they're confronted with the lack of regard

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By *ts the taking part thatMan
33 weeks ago

southampton

Poor record, poor singer & very inappropriate performance all adds up to poor votes.

Supply & demand.

Supply rubbish, no demand.

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By *ornucopiaMan
33 weeks ago

Bexley


"What I want to know is with an the AI and hologram technology surely it must be a simple matter for the UK to reclaim its superiority at Eurovision by brining back Wogan?

Was Wogan ever on there? I'm glad I gave up watching it even before then!

He presented for decades. You must have given up around the time Sandy Shaw won "

..after Pearl Carr and Teddy Johnson to be precise!

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By *ornucopiaMan
33 weeks ago

Bexley


"It's only fair, a lot of us detest Eurovision. "

Looking like it's about three of us, so far, but at least we detest it with passion!

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By *inger_SnapWoman
33 weeks ago

Hampshire/Dorset


"It's a weird one. I always thought we were hated but we did so well in 2022 with Sam Ryder. Was it just a one off or was there something more to that?"

He had radio one behind him from the start, and it was a decent original song from an amazing artist.

This years was shit.

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By *ackformore100Man
33 weeks ago

Tin town


"Poor record, poor singer & very inappropriate performance all adds up to poor votes.

Supply & demand.

Supply rubbish, no demand. "

What was his quote.?

In a press release, he added: "I really can't believe I'm going to be a part of such a special legacy and fly the flag for the UK in the gayest way possible.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
33 weeks ago

cahoots


"Just found this on the interweb...

Each nations votes are given out as 12 10 8 etc like the juries. The song that get the most votes get 12 points and so on.

Then all points from all countries is added together and given out as a lump sum.

...so in short the UK could have been voted for but not enough to get any points.

On the panel yes but the public vote can't be done that way

Tbh I couldn't give two hoots if we win or not I've always watched it for a few reasons, cringe value, entertainment value and shwing value.

But it all seems to be getting far too professional and produced I preferred the amateur nonsense of yesteryear.

"

The piece I found was for the public vote...they just needed enough votes to get some points. Don't know how many levels of points there are but the lowest votes in the list (say 10 levels) would get 1 point...the next lowest number of votes would get zero points.

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By *ackformore100Man
33 weeks ago

Tin town


"Just found this on the interweb...

Each nations votes are given out as 12 10 8 etc like the juries. The song that get the most votes get 12 points and so on.

Then all points from all countries is added together and given out as a lump sum.

...so in short the UK could have been voted for but not enough to get any points.

On the panel yes but the public vote can't be done that way

Tbh I couldn't give two hoots if we win or not I've always watched it for a few reasons, cringe value, entertainment value and shwing value.

But it all seems to be getting far too professional and produced I preferred the amateur nonsense of yesteryear.

The piece I found was for the public vote...they just needed enough votes to get some points. Don't know how many levels of points there are but the lowest votes in the list (say 10 levels) would get 1 point...the next lowest number of votes would get zero points."

Nool pwah

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By *abioMan
33 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

For those people complaining….do me a favour

Let’s just take the last 10 years….

Listen to all of the uk entries… other than Sam ryder, show me a song there that stands out!

I rest my case…..

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By *ackformore100Man
33 weeks ago

Tin town


"For those people complaining….do me a favour

Let’s just take the last 10 years….

Listen to all of the uk entries… other than Sam ryder, show me a song there that stands out!

I rest my case….."

Objection!

No you're out of order.

You can't handle the truth

Sustained

M'lud

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By *inger_SnapWoman
33 weeks ago

Hampshire/Dorset


"Poor record, poor singer & very inappropriate performance all adds up to poor votes.

Supply & demand.

Supply rubbish, no demand.

What was his quote.?

In a press release, he added: "I really can't believe I'm going to be a part of such a special legacy and fly the flag for the UK in the gayest way possible.

"

There you go then... Obviously that's not going to appeal to the majority.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
33 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"For those people complaining….do me a favour

Let’s just take the last 10 years….

Listen to all of the uk entries… other than Sam ryder, show me a song there that stands out!

I rest my case….."

But what about errmmmm you know that one

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By *ackformore100Man
33 weeks ago

Tin town


"For those people complaining….do me a favour

Let’s just take the last 10 years….

Listen to all of the uk entries… other than Sam ryder, show me a song there that stands out!

I rest my case…..

But what about errmmmm you know that one "

Cliff Richard?

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By *TG3Man
33 weeks ago

Dorchester

Yep

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