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"its a lot sadder with all the current wars , people /families dying, i wouldnt worry to much about trivial things, millions aint even got a tele to watch let alone worry about it." Seriously? | |||
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"Isreal will probably win like Ukraine did." Hope so. | |||
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"It'll be a shit song as well like the Ukraine song." it will be the sympathy vote again | |||
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"It'll be a shit song as well like the Ukraine song. it will be the sympathy vote again " The pro war sympathy vote yes that's the one. | |||
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"its a lot sadder with all the current wars , people /families dying, i wouldnt worry to much about trivial things, millions aint even got a tele to watch let alone worry about it. Seriously?" Which part of the response does the incredulous 'Seriously?' refer to? If it is the bit about 'millions aint even got a tele to watch let alone worry about it, then I'm one of the however many millions in the world don't have a TV. However, if you are thinking of the windowless in Gaza, I'm sure they will have prioritised restoring their ability to watch TV over and above the urgency of sorting out their wrecked lives and homes. Hope they are spell bound as the contest drags on. | |||
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"its a lot sadder with all the current wars , people /families dying, i wouldnt worry to much about trivial things, millions aint even got a tele to watch let alone worry about it. Seriously? Which part of the response does the incredulous 'Seriously?' refer to? If it is the bit about 'millions aint even got a tele to watch let alone worry about it, then I'm one of the however many millions in the world don't have a TV. However, if you are thinking of the windowless in Gaza, I'm sure they will have prioritised restoring their ability to watch TV over and above the urgency of sorting out their wrecked lives and homes. Hope they are spell bound as the contest drags on. " I’m going to assume you admire the Just Stop Oil crowd | |||
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"Isreal will probably win like Ukraine did." If you look out of your window on any Saturday and you will see the nice little white middle class know nothings sharing their universal hatred of Israel and Jews. There is not a snowball's chance of us winning the contest. Just being there is a success. | |||
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"Never understood why they were in it in the first place, let alone now. If Russia weren't allowed then neither should Israel." How about Russia is the aggressor, Israel is the victim. | |||
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" ... I’m going to assume you admire the Just Stop Oil crowd " Strange, assumption to make. 'I think it is my turn now to say 'Seriously?' Actually I don't do admiration much, least of all where politics are concerned. Oh and television! Please reset your assumption button. | |||
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" However, if you are thinking of the windowless in Gaza, I'm sure they will have prioritised restoring their ability to watch TV over and above the urgency of sorting out their wrecked lives and homes. Hope they are spell bound as the contest drags on. " On October 7th, some 15,000 poor innocent Gazans joined Hamas and other militia to commit crimes against humanity. On their return, men, women and children celebrated and rejoiced in the streets at the slaughter. Israel did not break a single pane of glass in their windows on October 6th. | |||
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"The way I see it is she shouldn't be in it as its caused so much disruption. However she is in it. It's not her fault Israel are at war, just like it wouldn't be yours or my fault if the UK went to war... Just my humble opinion" She should be in it. If she wasn't then the terrorists score another point. | |||
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" ... I’m going to assume you admire the Just Stop Oil crowd Strange, assumption to make. 'I think it is my turn now to say 'Seriously?' Actually I don't do admiration much, least of all where politics are concerned. Oh and television! Please reset your assumption button." My word What an awful man | |||
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"its a lot sadder with all the current wars , people /families dying, i wouldnt worry to much about trivial things, millions aint even got a tele to watch let alone worry about it. Seriously? Which part of the response does the incredulous 'Seriously?' refer to? If it is the bit about 'millions aint even got a tele to watch let alone worry about it, then I'm one of the however many millions in the world don't have a TV. However, if you are thinking of the windowless in Gaza, I'm sure they will have prioritised restoring their ability to watch TV over and above the urgency of sorting out their wrecked lives and homes. Hope they are spell bound as the contest drags on. " . Couldn't have put it better. | |||
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" However, if you are thinking of the windowless in Gaza, I'm sure they will have prioritised restoring their ability to watch TV over and above the urgency of sorting out their wrecked lives and homes. Hope they are spell bound as the contest drags on. On October 7th, some 15,000 poor innocent Gazans joined Hamas and other militia to commit crimes against humanity. On their return, men, women and children celebrated and rejoiced in the streets at the slaughter. Israel did not break a single pane of glass in their windows on October 6th." Israel, breaking glass since 1948, partying on October 6th. Singing about being the victims in May following the destruction of every hospital, university, school, water treatment plant, food aid bank warehouse, and the maiming of hundreds of thousands and slaughter of thousands, 3 of which were white flag waving hostages. | |||
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" However, if you are thinking of the windowless in Gaza, I'm sure they will have prioritised restoring their ability to watch TV over and above the urgency of sorting out their wrecked lives and homes. Hope they are spell bound as the contest drags on. On October 7th, some 15,000 poor innocent Gazans joined Hamas and other militia to commit crimes against humanity. On their return, men, women and children celebrated and rejoiced in the streets at the slaughter. Israel did not break a single pane of glass in their windows on October 6th. Israel, breaking glass since 1948, partying on October 6th. Singing about being the victims in May following the destruction of every hospital, university, school, water treatment plant, food aid bank warehouse, and the maiming of hundreds of thousands and slaughter of thousands, 3 of which were white flag waving hostages. " Curious what you think of the massacres of Jews in Muslim countries before Israel even existed? Many of them had been in those lands since antiquity. A large portion of the current Israeli population originate from those Jews driven out of Muslim countries. | |||
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" However, if you are thinking of the windowless in Gaza, I'm sure they will have prioritised restoring their ability to watch TV over and above the urgency of sorting out their wrecked lives and homes. Hope they are spell bound as the contest drags on. On October 7th, some 15,000 poor innocent Gazans joined Hamas and other militia to commit crimes against humanity. On their return, men, women and children celebrated and rejoiced in the streets at the slaughter. Israel did not break a single pane of glass in their windows on October 6th. Israel, breaking glass since 1948, partying on October 6th. Singing about being the victims in May following the destruction of every hospital, university, school, water treatment plant, food aid bank warehouse, and the maiming of hundreds of thousands and slaughter of thousands, 3 of which were white flag waving hostages. Curious what you think of the massacres of Jews in Muslim countries before Israel even existed? Many of them had been in those lands since antiquity. A large portion of the current Israeli population originate from those Jews driven out of Muslim countries. " It is historical fact. The Jewish population in each of the Arab Muslim countries have been reduced to a tiny fraction due to murder, expulsion and emigration. From hundreds of thousands of Jews in each country to to a handful of hundreds or just one or two thousands. In Gaza, in 2005, Israel forced 9,000 Jews to leave for their own safety. Since 2005, the Christian population, the dhimmis, have been reduced by two thirds. | |||
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" However, if you are thinking of the windowless in Gaza, I'm sure they will have prioritised restoring their ability to watch TV over and above the urgency of sorting out their wrecked lives and homes. Hope they are spell bound as the contest drags on. On October 7th, some 15,000 poor innocent Gazans joined Hamas and other militia to commit crimes against humanity. On their return, men, women and children celebrated and rejoiced in the streets at the slaughter. Israel did not break a single pane of glass in their windows on October 6th. Israel, breaking glass since 1948, partying on October 6th. Singing about being the victims in May following the destruction of every hospital, university, school, water treatment plant, food aid bank warehouse, and the maiming of hundreds of thousands and slaughter of thousands, 3 of which were white flag waving hostages. Curious what you think of the massacres of Jews in Muslim countries before Israel even existed? Many of them had been in those lands since antiquity. A large portion of the current Israeli population originate from those Jews driven out of Muslim countries. It is historical fact. The Jewish population in each of the Arab Muslim countries have been reduced to a tiny fraction due to murder, expulsion and emigration. From hundreds of thousands of Jews in each country to to a handful of hundreds or just one or two thousands. In Gaza, in 2005, Israel forced 9,000 Jews to leave for their own safety. Since 2005, the Christian population, the dhimmis, have been reduced by two thirds." Yep lets not let facts get in the way, the fired up lefties want to keep waving flags and jumping on the blood frenzy bandwagon over something they know nothing about… | |||
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"Never understood why they were in it in the first place, let alone now. If Russia weren't allowed then neither should Israel. How about Russia is the aggressor, Israel is the victim." The victim?? Wtf?? Did the last 75 years just skip by your mild imagination? It’s a settler colonial project.. Eurovision .. European football competion… for European country’s only.. for a right wing country built illegally in the Middle East it’s doing a fine job on trying to be anywhere but in the Middle East… | |||
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"Never understood why they were in it in the first place, let alone now. If Russia weren't allowed then neither should Israel. How about Russia is the aggressor, Israel is the victim. The victim?? Wtf?? Did the last 75 years just skip by your mild imagination? It’s a settler colonial project.. Eurovision .. European football competion… for European country’s only.. for a right wing country built illegally in the Middle East it’s doing a fine job on trying to be anywhere but in the Middle East… " No one died on October 6th. Israel is surrounded by hostile nations. It is outnumbered and outgunned. Hezbollah is reputed to have around 150,000 missiles. Iran will have a nuclear warhead by the end of the year. It helps to be a bit knowledgeable about the subject | |||
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" ... I’m going to assume you admire the Just Stop Oil crowd Strange, assumption to make. 'I think it is my turn now to say 'Seriously?' Actually I don't do admiration much, least of all where politics are concerned. Oh and television! Please reset your assumption button. My word What an awful man " Charming! However, since you have given me the idea, I will go and check out 'Just Stop Oil' to see if they might have a point. Have an enjoyable song contest! | |||
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"Never understood why they were in it in the first place, let alone now. If Russia weren't allowed then neither should Israel. How about Russia is the aggressor, Israel is the victim." How about nothing excuses murdering children. | |||
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"Never understood why they were in it in the first place, let alone now. If Russia weren't allowed then neither should Israel. How about Russia is the aggressor, Israel is the victim. How about nothing excuses murdering children." When you have a soldier shooting at a terrorist, and the terrorist holds up a child to use as a shield, which one is the murderer? | |||
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"Isreal will probably win like Ukraine did." Nah mate, Israel are committing a literal genocide (pretty much since the 1970’s) I think you might have got things a bit mixed up here. | |||
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"Isreal will probably win like Ukraine did. Nah mate, Israel are committing a literal genocide (pretty much since the 1970’s) I think you might have got things a bit mixed up here." You clearly have no idea what the word genocide means neither do you have a clue about the past, the present and the likely future. | |||
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"Never understood why they were in it in the first place, let alone now. If Russia weren't allowed then neither should Israel. How about Russia is the aggressor, Israel is the victim. The victim?? Wtf?? Did the last 75 years just skip by your mild imagination? It’s a settler colonial project.. Eurovision .. European football competion… for European country’s only.. for a right wing country built illegally in the Middle East it’s doing a fine job on trying to be anywhere but in the Middle East… No one died on October 6th. Israel is surrounded by hostile nations. It is outnumbered and outgunned. Hezbollah is reputed to have around 150,000 missiles. Iran will have a nuclear warhead by the end of the year. It helps to be a bit knowledgeable about the subject" On October 6th Israel kept over 4500 Palestinian hostages in its prisons. Hundreds of them are CHILDREN. The huge number of Palestinian detainees is primarily the result of separate criminal justice systems Israeli authorities maintain in the occupied territory. The nearly 3 million Palestinians who live in the occupied West Bank, excluding East Jerusalem, are ruled by military law and prosecuted in military courts. 600 Palestinians in the West Bank were killed by Israelis in 2023 pre October 7. More than that number killed in Gaza in 2023 pre October 7. Surrounded by hostile nations? Saudi Arabia and Jordan flew their planes to protect Israel against Iranian retaliation after Israel attacked it's diplomatic mission. Egypt do everything to support Israel in protecting it's borders. What do you mean surrounded by hostiles? The lies in your narrative are despicable. But guess what, nobody believes it anymore. And that sucks for Israel who are left trying to silence the right to protest by besmirching the meaning of Antisemitism and equating "Jew" with Zionist colonialism. They're the first to go against Talmudic teachings that Israel can't exist. Having a modern nation-state being defined by one ethnicity or one religion is problematic in itself – if not inherently self-contradictory – because the modern nation-state as such is a temporal and civic institution, and because no state in the world is – or can be in practice – ethnically or religiously homogenous. Somehow we're led to believe Israel is a secular state and that it's a Jewish state because it's God's promised land for the chosen people. | |||
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"Isreal will probably win like Ukraine did. Nah mate, Israel are committing a literal genocide (pretty much since the 1970’s) I think you might have got things a bit mixed up here." I know what they're doing. It's awful. You've got what I said mixed-up, son. | |||
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"Never understood why they were in it in the first place, let alone now. If Russia weren't allowed then neither should Israel. How about Russia is the aggressor, Israel is the victim. How about nothing excuses murdering children. When you have a soldier shooting at a terrorist, and the terrorist holds up a child to use as a shield, which one is the murderer?" That's happened 14,000 times? | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad" Disturbing videos emerging of Israeli representatives constantly trying to provoke other contestants behind stage while preaching for unity in music is pure hypocrisy & devilry. Joost Klein, who dared to confront the Israel’s participant on Eurovision during the press conference, got banned from competition over an unknown "incident". Eurovision was always politicized shit show. Ongoing genocide and Killing of innocent 35000 among 70% of are innocent women, children and babies. Inviting Israel to Eurovision is like inviting Jimmy Saville to Kids party. | |||
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"Free palatine " What about the other six hills? | |||
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"They say about Israel but let the funding and supplier via Iran of Hammas. Russia stay " Hamas, Iran and Russia aren’t competing in Eurovision duh | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad" What’s sad is that you don’t understand the genocide that’s happening years now. Boycott Eurovision, free Palestine | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad What’s sad is that you don’t understand the genocide that’s happening years now. Boycott Eurovision, free Palestine " I hope you also boycott every Chinese product and stay away from anything Chinese because they are committing Genocide too. | |||
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"In a just world, Russia would be in, Ukraine and Israel would be out." I think I agree. People are fast swallow up the American and European propaganda without ever visiting the Ukraine border or West Bank for themselves. I doubt many of pro Israel could even point to Gaza on a map | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad" Where should they demonstrate if they disagree with Israel bombing the fuck out of and starving innocent civilians.? | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad Where should they demonstrate if they disagree with Israel bombing the fuck out of and starving innocent civilians.? " Gaza? | |||
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"I know, let's invite Hamas to enter Eurovision, then it would be an peaceful non political competition!" Not hamas as they are a political party / terrorist organisation. But certainly inviting Palestine would make more balance | |||
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"In a just world, Russia would be in, Ukraine and Israel would be out." Why should Ukraine be out? | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad What’s sad is that you don’t understand the genocide that’s happening years now. Boycott Eurovision, free Palestine I hope you also boycott every Chinese product and stay away from anything Chinese because they are committing Genocide too." Exactly, I keep countering the brainless leftie woke and muslims with China and none have an answer. The hypocrisy of the left wing and Muslims and vocal Islamic countries over the Uyghurs, the Tibetans and inner-Mongolians is astounding. Let alone all other conflicts and genocides in the world - arabs against black Sudanese, the Hindus and Kalash in Pakistan, Armenians, Kurds and on and on. | |||
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"I know, let's invite Hamas to enter Eurovision, then it would be an peaceful non political competition! Not hamas as they are a political party / terrorist organisation. But certainly inviting Palestine would make more balance " I was being sarcastic! | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad Disturbing videos emerging of Israeli representatives constantly trying to provoke other contestants behind stage while preaching for unity in music is pure hypocrisy & devilry. Joost Klein, who dared to confront the Israel’s participant on Eurovision during the press conference, got banned from competition over an unknown "incident". Eurovision was always politicized shit show. Ongoing genocide and Killing of innocent 35000 among 70% of are innocent women, children and babies. Inviting Israel to Eurovision is like inviting Jimmy Saville to Kids party. "Only party these war criminals should be invited to is ICC in The Hague | |||
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"Free palatine What about the other six hills?" I’m just repeating what I hear I couldn’t even tell you the difference between the two | |||
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"Free palatine What about the other six hills?" I’m just repeating what I hear I couldn’t even tell you the difference between the two | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad What’s sad is that you don’t understand the genocide that’s happening years now. Boycott Eurovision, free Palestine I hope you also boycott every Chinese product and stay away from anything Chinese because they are committing Genocide too. Exactly, I keep countering the brainless leftie woke and muslims with China and none have an answer. The hypocrisy of the left wing and Muslims and vocal Islamic countries over the Uyghurs, the Tibetans and inner-Mongolians is astounding. Let alone all other conflicts and genocides in the world - arabs against black Sudanese, the Hindus and Kalash in Pakistan, Armenians, Kurds and on and on. " Since you’re the smartest person in the room apparently, how about you address the very topic we’re discussing instead of constantly using whataboutism | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad Disturbing videos emerging of Israeli representatives constantly trying to provoke other contestants behind stage while preaching for unity in music is pure hypocrisy & devilry. Joost Klein, who dared to confront the Israel’s participant on Eurovision during the press conference, got banned from competition over an unknown "incident". Eurovision was always politicized shit show. Ongoing genocide and Killing of innocent 35000 among 70% of are innocent women, children and babies. Inviting Israel to Eurovision is like inviting Jimmy Saville to Kids party.
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"Free palatine What about the other six hills? I’m just repeating what I hear I couldn’t even tell you the difference between the two " You're definitely repeating  | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad What’s sad is that you don’t understand the genocide that’s happening years now. Boycott Eurovision, free Palestine I hope you also boycott every Chinese product and stay away from anything Chinese because they are committing Genocide too. Exactly, I keep countering the brainless leftie woke and muslims with China and none have an answer. The hypocrisy of the left wing and Muslims and vocal Islamic countries over the Uyghurs, the Tibetans and inner-Mongolians is astounding. Let alone all other conflicts and genocides in the world - arabs against black Sudanese, the Hindus and Kalash in Pakistan, Armenians, Kurds and on and on. Since you’re the smartest person in the room apparently, how about you address the very topic we’re discussing instead of constantly using whataboutism" If you want to boycott Eurovision or anything else related to Israel, you should do it and there is nothing wrong with it. No one will bat an eye. No one would even care. If you are going to ask other people to boycott Eurovision, they will ask you questions. They will ask you why you care about this issue more than other genocides. Is it because you care more about Palestinians than other victims? Is it because you hate Israelites more than other countries doing the genocide? Is it because it's easier to boycott Eurovision compared to boycotting Chinese products? Or is it just that you would like to get outraged about the latest trend on the internet? All people aren't sheep and you aren't a shepherd who they will follow blindly. If you want to convince them, it's your job to make a convincing argument of why this matters. | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad What’s sad is that you don’t understand the genocide that’s happening years now. Boycott Eurovision, free Palestine I hope you also boycott every Chinese product and stay away from anything Chinese because they are committing Genocide too. Exactly, I keep countering the brainless leftie woke and muslims with China and none have an answer. The hypocrisy of the left wing and Muslims and vocal Islamic countries over the Uyghurs, the Tibetans and inner-Mongolians is astounding. Let alone all other conflicts and genocides in the world - arabs against black Sudanese, the Hindus and Kalash in Pakistan, Armenians, Kurds and on and on. " Doesnt make it OK does it? Or does it... China do shit so therefore everyone wake should be allowed to commit war crimes without comment? | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad What’s sad is that you don’t understand the genocide that’s happening years now. Boycott Eurovision, free Palestine I hope you also boycott every Chinese product and stay away from anything Chinese because they are committing Genocide too. Exactly, I keep countering the brainless leftie woke and muslims with China and none have an answer. The hypocrisy of the left wing and Muslims and vocal Islamic countries over the Uyghurs, the Tibetans and inner-Mongolians is astounding. Let alone all other conflicts and genocides in the world - arabs against black Sudanese, the Hindus and Kalash in Pakistan, Armenians, Kurds and on and on. Doesnt make it OK does it? Or does it... China do shit so therefore everyone wake should be allowed to commit war crimes without comment? " No one said you shouldn't comment. You can and you should. But if you are going to ask other people to boycott Eurovision, they won't agree with you blindly. They will ask you questions | |||
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"Never understood why they were in it in the first place, let alone now. If Russia weren't allowed then neither should Israel." Because Putin hasn't yet found a way to declare any slight criticism for acting cuntishly and committing genocide as a religious/racist offence- unless you count the number of people who mysteriously fall out of high windows over there
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"Never understood why they were in it in the first place, let alone now. If Russia weren't allowed then neither should Israel. Because Putin hasn't yet found a way to declare any slight criticism for acting cuntishly and committing genocide as a religious/racist offence- unless you count the number of people who mysteriously fall out of high windows over there
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"Never understood why they were in it in the first place, let alone now. If Russia weren't allowed then neither should Israel. Because Putin hasn't yet found a way to declare any slight criticism for acting cuntishly and committing genocide as a religious/racist offence- unless you count the number of people who mysteriously fall out of high windows over there
Ironically, someone has been kicked out for some sort of threat- don't have the details but assume it didn't involve carpet bombing innocent people on the half chance you might bag an opposing terrorist in the explosions? "As I have said on numerous occasions, the posts from you nice little white middle class know nothings show that people like have absolutely no idea of the past, the present and the likely future. | |||
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"Nearly 40000 dead… a 3rd of those women and children… you can see why these people are calling for Israel to feel the heat.. even the US are now saying that Israel has used their weapons to commit war crimes… 1.2 million people are now facing famine due to Israel using starvation as a weapon.. blocking medical supplies and blowing up medical facilities Someone’s now will say… “Hamas” “human shields” …. If one thing that this war has show is who the oppressors are I" Ignorance is bliss. Try looking at the full text | |||
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"CNN: Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians civilians in shadowy IDF terrorists detention center. IDF is ISIS "Still, best we keep shipping UK made arms. We are complicit in facilitating this disaster. You put weapons in people's hands and they are going to use them. | |||
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Anyone noticed that Hamas did carried out horrendous atrocities on 7th October?"They seem to have very short memories on that particular reality across the board. They seem to think beheading babies and r*ping young hippies is perfectly normal behaviour as long as the target is a Jew. | |||
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Anyone noticed that Hamas did carried out horrendous atrocities on 7th October?
They seem to have very short memories on that particular reality across the board. They seem to think beheading babies and r*ping young hippies is perfectly normal behaviour as long as the target is a Jew."This is an interesting article https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-mxfnya3ZRc | |||
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Anyone noticed that Hamas did carried out horrendous atrocities on 7th October?
They seem to have very short memories on that particular reality across the board. They seem to think beheading babies and r*ping young hippies is perfectly normal behaviour as long as the target is a Jew.
This is an interesting article
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-mxfnya3ZRc"Every other news agency sees it differently | |||
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Anyone noticed that Hamas did carried out horrendous atrocities on 7th October?"Yes everyone acknowledges and noticed that was a horrendous terrorist attack. I think people can notice more than one thing at a time. If you think that genocide, starvation, destruction, torture and killing innocent civilians, just because, is somehow approved of because of the events on Oct 7th...thats the difference between a democratic nation state bound by international laws and treaties and a terrorist organisation. | |||
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"CNN: Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians civilians in shadowy IDF terrorists detention center. IDF is ISIS
Anyone noticed that Hamas did carried out horrendous atrocities on 7th October?
They seem to have very short memories on that particular reality across the board. They seem to think beheading babies and r*ping young hippies is perfectly normal behaviour as long as the target is a Jew."Oh dear oh dear. Before you comment on others memories this shit show started on 14th May 1948. You believe in any shit comes out of satanyhu mouth. Not a single baby beheaded on October 7th if you have proof and names please do share. This lie is all based on Zaka leader yossi landau account but when investigated by Sky news journalists, suddenly babies become 18/20 years old adults and he couldn’t provide any evidence that if they were beheaded. Do some homework before you post lies. Check Zaka leader Yossi landau own account denying babies being beheaded on 7th October. On other hand BBC journalists investigates and find IDF terrorists deliberately targeting children and babies. Still available on iPlayer if you are interested in facts but I doubt you’ll watch because it doesn’t fit your narrative. IDF are terrorists just like ISIS. | |||
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Oh dear oh dear. Before you comment on others memories this shit show started on 14th May 1948.
You believe in any shit comes out of satanyhu mouth. Not a single baby beheaded on October 7th if you have proof and names please do share. This lie is all based on Zaka leader yossi landau account but when investigated by Sky news journalists, suddenly babies become 18/20 years old adults and he couldn’t provide any evidence that if they were beheaded. Do some homework before you post lies. Check Zaka leader Yossi landau own account denying babies being beheaded on 7th October. On other hand BBC journalists investigates and find IDF terrorists deliberately targeting children and babies. Still available on iPlayer if you are interested in facts but I doubt you’ll watch because it doesn’t fit your narrative. IDF are terrorists just like ISIS. "Believe whatever you want to believe | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad" The issue isn't with the Israeli performers. The issue is the hypocrisy being shown by the EBU. They don't get to ban Russia for attacking Ukraine but allow Israel to compete for doing the same thing. Fuck them. | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad The issue isn't with the Israeli performers. The issue is the hypocrisy being shown by the EBU. They don't get to ban Russia for attacking Ukraine but allow Israel to compete for doing the same thing. Fuck them. Russia invaded Ukraine, Israel retaliated to a terrorist attack Well said, that’s the problem, people thinking it’s the same thing, not at all" It is the nature, scale and extent of the retaliation that people have a problem with. | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad" But it's not music it's a dance festival | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad The issue isn't with the Israeli performers. The issue is the hypocrisy being shown by the EBU. They don't get to ban Russia for attacking Ukraine but allow Israel to compete for doing the same thing. Fuck them. Russia invaded Ukraine, Israel retaliated to a terrorist attack By invading gaza, flattening all buildings, indiscriminate bombing of civilians, preventing food aid to famine victims and committing war crimes. Hamas could just release the hostages to stop this. Possibly. Wouldn't bring all the kids and civilians killed by the IDF back to life. But they haven't and Israel are still killing innocent people. " Yes, but Israel government is responsible for Israelis first. They have a duty to get the hostages at all cost. If Israel doesn't do anything like all of you want, it's them sending a message that they are weak. Hamas will only consider it a green signal to commit more terrorism. If Israel listens to you all and stops attacking and Hamas goes back to commit another terror attack, will you people take responsibility for that? | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad The issue isn't with the Israeli performers. The issue is the hypocrisy being shown by the EBU. They don't get to ban Russia for attacking Ukraine but allow Israel to compete for doing the same thing. Fuck them. Russia invaded Ukraine, Israel retaliated to a terrorist attack By invading gaza, flattening all buildings, indiscriminate bombing of civilians, preventing food aid to famine victims and committing war crimes. Hamas could just release the hostages to stop this. Possibly. Wouldn't bring all the kids and civilians killed by the IDF back to life. But they haven't and Israel are still killing innocent people. Yes, but Israel government is responsible for Israelis first. They have a duty to get the hostages at all cost. If Israel doesn't do anything like all of you want, it's them sending a message that they are weak. Hamas will only consider it a green signal to commit more terrorism. If Israel listens to you all and stops attacking and Hamas goes back to commit another terror attack, will you people take responsibility for that?" Why should anyone take responsibility apart from the ones who are committing the atrocities and war crimes? Starving and killing people doesn't lead to peace | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad The issue isn't with the Israeli performers. The issue is the hypocrisy being shown by the EBU. They don't get to ban Russia for attacking Ukraine but allow Israel to compete for doing the same thing. Fuck them. Russia invaded Ukraine, Israel retaliated to a terrorist attack By invading gaza, flattening all buildings, indiscriminate bombing of civilians, preventing food aid to famine victims and committing war crimes. Hamas could just release the hostages to stop this. Possibly. Wouldn't bring all the kids and civilians killed by the IDF back to life. But they haven't and Israel are still killing innocent people. Yes, but Israel government is responsible for Israelis first. They have a duty to get the hostages at all cost. If Israel doesn't do anything like all of you want, it's them sending a message that they are weak. Hamas will only consider it a green signal to commit more terrorism. If Israel listens to you all and stops attacking and Hamas goes back to commit another terror attack, will you people take responsibility for that? Why should anyone take responsibility apart from the ones who are committing the atrocities and war crimes? Starving and killing people doesn't lead to peace " Your last sentence is not only totally wrong, but heartbreakingly naive. Since the invention of gunpowder, most wars have been won because one side was more brutal against civilians than the other. In WW2, Allied air forces bombed and killed over half a million German citizens, and they did the same to us. It's only because we were more brutal and killed more of their people than they killed of ours that we "won", and you are able to sit there comfortably and with the wealth and freedom to be able to voice your rather hypocritical views. My last word on this for now because I am enjoying the same freedom by the pool, but Hiroshima and Nagasaki, early August 1945. Over a quarter of a million citizens killed outright, thousands left starving and dying from radiation. Three weeks later, "peace" was declared. | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad The issue isn't with the Israeli performers. The issue is the hypocrisy being shown by the EBU. They don't get to ban Russia for attacking Ukraine but allow Israel to compete for doing the same thing. Fuck them. Russia invaded Ukraine, Israel retaliated to a terrorist attack By invading gaza, flattening all buildings, indiscriminate bombing of civilians, preventing food aid to famine victims and committing war crimes. Hamas could just release the hostages to stop this. Possibly. Wouldn't bring all the kids and civilians killed by the IDF back to life. But they haven't and Israel are still killing innocent people. Yes, but Israel government is responsible for Israelis first. They have a duty to get the hostages at all cost. If Israel doesn't do anything like all of you want, it's them sending a message that they are weak. Hamas will only consider it a green signal to commit more terrorism. If Israel listens to you all and stops attacking and Hamas goes back to commit another terror attack, will you people take responsibility for that? Why should anyone take responsibility apart from the ones who are committing the atrocities and war crimes? Starving and killing people doesn't lead to peace Israel has a problem. As bad as it is, what they are doing is the only solution they have. If you want them to stop doing it, you need to provide an alternative solution to protect themselves. If you force them to stop doing it and they get hit by Hamas again, you need to take responsibility for that. If you are neither going to give an alternative solution nor take responsibility, but just give opinions about what they are doing, there is absolutely no point in your opinion. Comparing Israel-Palestine situation with Russia-Ukraine situation is also idiotic for the above reason. If Russia folds and goes back to their own place, one can say with reasonable certainty that Ukraine can be convinved to not go out and attack inside Russia's territory. But the same cannot be said about the Israel Palestine situation. Disagree. I, or anyone else can have and express an opinion, we dont need to provide a solution to realise committing we crimes is wrong. If your assertion is that Israels only choice is to continue committing war crimes then no, I don't thing that is acceptable. They can prosecute an invasion within the international laws. I think the un fucked up when creating an Israel homeland and gifting territory from the Palestinians. The solution is to form a Palestinian state. Until that happens there will be no peace. Even if Israel does stop taking land and homes from Palestinians who have lived their for generations. It's complex certainly but as einstein said... Keep doing the same things and expecting a different outcome is the first sign of insanity. " You have the right to express your opinion. But others can comment on how worthy is it. Again, all I hear is how Israel shouldn't do what they are doing. But I don't hear a valid alternate solution. As for a Palestine state, who offered it last time and who refused it? End of the day, Hamas still have hostages and Israel will do whatever it takes to retrieve them. I don't understand why people are trying to force Israel to stop instead of trying to force Hamas to release the hostages. | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad The issue isn't with the Israeli performers. The issue is the hypocrisy being shown by the EBU. They don't get to ban Russia for attacking Ukraine but allow Israel to compete for doing the same thing. Fuck them. Russia invaded Ukraine, Israel retaliated to a terrorist attack By invading gaza, flattening all buildings, indiscriminate bombing of civilians, preventing food aid to famine victims and committing war crimes. Hamas could just release the hostages to stop this. Possibly. Wouldn't bring all the kids and civilians killed by the IDF back to life. But they haven't and Israel are still killing innocent people. Yes, but Israel government is responsible for Israelis first. They have a duty to get the hostages at all cost. If Israel doesn't do anything like all of you want, it's them sending a message that they are weak. Hamas will only consider it a green signal to commit more terrorism. If Israel listens to you all and stops attacking and Hamas goes back to commit another terror attack, will you people take responsibility for that? Why should anyone take responsibility apart from the ones who are committing the atrocities and war crimes? Starving and killing people doesn't lead to peace Israel has a problem. As bad as it is, what they are doing is the only solution they have. If you want them to stop doing it, you need to provide an alternative solution to protect themselves. If you force them to stop doing it and they get hit by Hamas again, you need to take responsibility for that. If you are neither going to give an alternative solution nor take responsibility, but just give opinions about what they are doing, there is absolutely no point in your opinion. Comparing Israel-Palestine situation with Russia-Ukraine situation is also idiotic for the above reason. If Russia folds and goes back to their own place, one can say with reasonable certainty that Ukraine can be convinved to not go out and attack inside Russia's territory. But the same cannot be said about the Israel Palestine situation. Disagree. I, or anyone else can have and express an opinion, we dont need to provide a solution to realise committing we crimes is wrong. If your assertion is that Israels only choice is to continue committing war crimes then no, I don't thing that is acceptable. They can prosecute an invasion within the international laws. I think the un fucked up when creating an Israel homeland and gifting territory from the Palestinians. The solution is to form a Palestinian state. Until that happens there will be no peace. Even if Israel does stop taking land and homes from Palestinians who have lived their for generations. It's complex certainly but as einstein said... Keep doing the same things and expecting a different outcome is the first sign of insanity. You have the right to express your opinion. But others can comment on how worthy is it. Again, all I hear is how Israel shouldn't do what they are doing. But I don't hear a valid alternate solution. As for a Palestine state, who offered it last time and who refused it? End of the day, Hamas still have hostages and Israel will do whatever it takes to retrieve them. I don't understand why people are trying to force Israel to stop instead of trying to force Hamas to release the hostages. Because Israel are a nation state and hamas are a terrorist organisation. I'm that regard Israel correctly is held to the standards of international law. Hamas isn't and can't be. Having said all of that, of course hamas should release any hostages that they still hold. It doesn't need to one or the other. Both things can and should happen. " Both has to happen at the same time. If you want Israel to stop but find excuses for why Hamas won't release hostages, Israel has all the rights to throw these opinions to dustbin. Protecting their own people is their first priority over everything else. | |||
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" Again, the nice little white middle class know nothings spout their nonsense. Hamas is Hamas? No it isn't. Hamas is Gaza, Gaza is Hamas, Iran, other militia and amateur enthusiasts. On October 7th, Hamas, Other Militia aided and abetted by Iran and 15,000 Gazans attacked Israel. On their return , the people of Gaza (men, women and children) celebrated in the streets. When you are brought up from birth to hate and martyrdom is promoted as a career choice then you have today. When the Arab muslims love their children more than they hate us, then it will stop." Grateful to the little old white man for educating the little white middle class 
So what we should learn is that if somebody hates you, it's acceptable to kill their kids.
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"Why do people forget oct 7th & if that hamas hadnt butchered those people none of the killings would of happened" Who has forgotten that bit? Where did you get that idea from? More discussion centres around the current situation and the future, bit that doesn’t mean that anyone has forgotten October. | |||
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""You have some serious issues… I suggest you stop watching GMB news… Hamas are Hamas.. however killing everyone in the hope you get them.. is a war crime and those supporting this need to be sent to The Hague." Again, the nice little white middle class know nothings spout their nonsense. Hamas is Hamas? No it isn't. Hamas is Gaza, Gaza is Hamas, Iran, other militia and amateur enthusiasts. On October 7th, Hamas, Other Militia aided and abetted by Iran and 15,000 Gazans attacked Israel. On their return , the people of Gaza (men, women and children) celebrated in the streets. When you are brought up from birth to hate and martyrdom is promoted as a career choice then you have today. When the Arab muslims love their children more than they hate us, then it will stop." “Again, the nice little white middle class know nothings spout their nonsense.” . Maybe tone it down, no need to insult other posters. | |||
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" Again, the nice little white middle class know nothings spout their nonsense. Hamas is Hamas? No it isn't. Hamas is Gaza, Gaza is Hamas, Iran, other militia and amateur enthusiasts. On October 7th, Hamas, Other Militia aided and abetted by Iran and 15,000 Gazans attacked Israel. On their return , the people of Gaza (men, women and children) celebrated in the streets. When you are brought up from birth to hate and martyrdom is promoted as a career choice then you have today. When the Arab muslims love their children more than they hate us, then it will stop. Grateful to the little old white man for educating the little white middle class
So what we should learn is that if somebody hates you, it's acceptable to kill their kids.
That should solve things.
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"Eurovision is corrupt, always has been. From countries obviously voting for their neighbours regardless of the song was any good, to recent EBU contradicting it's own rules. It should be the best song, but it's not. Last year Ukraine won on a sympathy vote, the song wasn't even that good never mind the best. Take the situation out of it and it wouldn't have been anywhere near the top let alone winning it. We got screwed over." What you describe there is bias rather than corruption | |||
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""You have some serious issues… I suggest you stop watching GMB news… Hamas are Hamas.. however killing everyone in the hope you get them.. is a war crime and those supporting this need to be sent to The Hague." Again, the nice little white middle class know nothings spout their nonsense. Hamas is Hamas? No it isn't. Hamas is Gaza, Gaza is Hamas, Iran, other militia and amateur enthusiasts. On October 7th, Hamas, Other Militia aided and abetted by Iran and 15,000 Gazans attacked Israel. On their return , the people of Gaza (men, women and children) celebrated in the streets. When you are brought up from birth to hate and martyrdom is promoted as a career choice then you have today. When the Arab muslims love their children more than they hate us, then it will stop. “Again, the nice little white middle class know nothings spout their nonsense.” . Maybe tone it down, no need to insult other posters. As my dear old mum would have said. You know you're losing an argument when you resort to swear words and insults. " Not sure why he brought being white into it either … | |||
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""Again, the nice little white middle class know nothings spout their nonsense.” . Maybe tone it down, no need to insult other posters. As my dear old mum would have said. You know you're losing an argument when you resort to swear words and insults. " Not sure why he brought being white into it either …" Because the vast majority of posters on here are white, are middle class and certainly know nothing. All I am doing is stating fact. If you take offence at that, that says more about you than it does about me. The truth hurts but then again being butchered, r*led, m*ordered or k*snapped hurts too. Somehow, I reckon, of the two options, you got the better deal. " Again, I have no idea why you brought race into it. I didn’t say I was offended by it, I just thought it off-topic and irrelevant. | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too." The Green Prince, the son of a Hamas founder and brought up to succeed his father. He says Hamas are never to be trusted, will never stop until all Jews are wiped out and they will never stop their barbaric, terrorist actions. He is probably the best suited to give a genuine description of Hamas as a group and what their true intentions are. Mrs x | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too.The Green Prince, the son of a Hamas founder and brought up to succeed his father. He says Hamas are never to be trusted, will never stop until all Jews are wiped out and they will never stop their barbaric, terrorist actions. He is probably the best suited to give a genuine description of Hamas as a group and what their true intentions are. Mrs x" Not sure but isn't this the interview we're he said ordinary Palestinians and Hamas cannot be separated and that they are one and the same? Mrs x | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too.The Green Prince, the son of a Hamas founder and brought up to succeed his father. He says Hamas are never to be trusted, will never stop until all Jews are wiped out and they will never stop their barbaric, terrorist actions. He is probably the best suited to give a genuine description of Hamas as a group and what their true intentions are. Mrs x" I haven't seen any comments supporting hamas or their actions.Which have been roubdly condemned. What the debate moved on to was Israel actions prosecuting the war / invasion. Basically displacing or killing anyone in their path. | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too.The Green Prince, the son of a Hamas founder and brought up to succeed his father. He says Hamas are never to be trusted, will never stop until all Jews are wiped out and they will never stop their barbaric, terrorist actions. He is probably the best suited to give a genuine description of Hamas as a group and what their true intentions are. Mrs x" Yes, you are right there, he is probably the best one to give a genuine description of hamas, also by looking at the comments, many agrees with him too x. | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too.The Green Prince, the son of a Hamas founder and brought up to succeed his father. He says Hamas are never to be trusted, will never stop until all Jews are wiped out and they will never stop their barbaric, terrorist actions. He is probably the best suited to give a genuine description of Hamas as a group and what their true intentions are. Mrs x I haven't seen any comments supporting hamas or their actions.Which have been roubdly condemned. What the debate moved on to was Israel actions prosecuting the war / invasion. Basically displacing or killing anyone in their path. " But that's not the whole truth is it? IDF forces gave warnings to those in or near the targets they attacked. They even dropped leaflets by ait to tell innocents to evacuate. Don't remember that happening much in other conflicts. Hamas on the other hand instructed their citizens not to move. They want high collateral damage because it suits their narrative of Israel as the aggressor. The reason why there are so many civilians in Rafah right now is because the IDF told them to evacuate there while they attacked the North of Gaza. Hamas started this conflict. They hide behind their civilians and use their deaths for political gains. They built their infrastructure under civilian areas for just this purpose. 95% of Gaza is empty, they could have chose to build it there but they chose to build und we the 5% of Gaza that's occupied by their own citizens. They did this over decades, misappropriating funds that could have developed Gaza and for one reason, to hide behind their population. Israel has a right to protect their citizens from future invasions and to fight to ensure this. Mrs x | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too.The Green Prince, the son of a Hamas founder and brought up to succeed his father. He says Hamas are never to be trusted, will never stop until all Jews are wiped out and they will never stop their barbaric, terrorist actions. He is probably the best suited to give a genuine description of Hamas as a group and what their true intentions are. Mrs x I haven't seen any comments supporting hamas or their actions.Which have been roubdly condemned. What the debate moved on to was Israel actions prosecuting the war / invasion. Basically displacing or killing anyone in their path. " Well put. One poster suggested that people had forgotten what had happened in October. They haven’t. | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too.The Green Prince, the son of a Hamas founder and brought up to succeed his father. He says Hamas are never to be trusted, will never stop until all Jews are wiped out and they will never stop their barbaric, terrorist actions. He is probably the best suited to give a genuine description of Hamas as a group and what their true intentions are. Mrs x I haven't seen any comments supporting hamas or their actions.Which have been roubdly condemned. What the debate moved on to was Israel actions prosecuting the war / invasion. Basically displacing or killing anyone in their path. Well put. One poster suggested that people had forgotten what had happened in October. They haven’t. " So this is about proportionality? How should Israel respond here, should they fight back, should it just be a diplomatic approach, what is appropriate for an invasion on sovereign soul, the murder of over 1200 citizens and kid napping of over 250. And all this from a group that has fired thousands of missiles into your country, for decades? So what would be appropriate? Mrs x | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too.The Green Prince, the son of a Hamas founder and brought up to succeed his father. He says Hamas are never to be trusted, will never stop until all Jews are wiped out and they will never stop their barbaric, terrorist actions. He is probably the best suited to give a genuine description of Hamas as a group and what their true intentions are. Mrs x I haven't seen any comments supporting hamas or their actions.Which have been roubdly condemned. What the debate moved on to was Israel actions prosecuting the war / invasion. Basically displacing or killing anyone in their path. Well put. One poster suggested that people had forgotten what had happened in October. They haven’t. So this is about proportionality? How should Israel respond here, should they fight back, should it just be a diplomatic approach, what is appropriate for an invasion on sovereign soul, the murder of over 1200 citizens and kid napping of over 250. And all this from a group that has fired thousands of missiles into your country, for decades? So what would be appropriate? Mrs x" Diplomacy, adhering to un resolutions, formation of Palestinian state, ceasing settlement building on Palestinian land, prosecute any war crimes following due lrocess.. As for hamas, they need to surrender their terrorists and prosecute any war crimes and follow due process and participate in a meaningful diplomatic solution. Unpicking years of abuse and conflict will take time but it needs to start. America and Iran and Russia of course are happy to see their war carried out by proxy. | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too." Interesting interview worth watching on YouTube. Miko Peled is absolutely extraordinary to listen to. An Israeli-American activist and author, his family were Israeli national heroes: his grandfather signed Israel's 1948 Declaration of Independence, and his father served as a general in the Six-Day War of 1967. Peled tells about his journey away from evil religious ideology of Zionism and how Palestinians are dehumanised and ongoing genocide against people of Gaza. | |||
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"Did Hamas attack Israel, or was it occupied land? " Several Iranian backed militia groups including Hamas together with 15,000 "poor innocent" Gazans attacked Israel. Gaza was occupied and administered by Egypt where they used Gaza to attack Israel, together with the four surrounding Arab League countries, in 1967. Egypt was defeated and the land was occupied by Israel during the subsequent negotiations. Egypt accepted the return of the captured Sinai but refused to accept Gaza even though they were responsible for the administration. Israel was stuck with Gaza for forty years. Israel tried to encourage Gaza to become the Singapore or Hong Kong of the middle east. They tried to get Gaza to develop the offshore oil fields. It wasn't altruism, Israel knows that rich countries rarely go to war with their neighbours, they are enjoying life too much. After nearly forty years, during which time Israel invested in the infrastructure, so Israel started talks with Hamas who were, then, a much more moderate group. In 2005, elections were held and Israel left Gaza. Israel also ethnically cleansed Gaza of Jews forcing them to leave for their own safety. In the meantime, the moderate Hamas leadership was murdered or exiled and so we have current Hamas leadership. | |||
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"May sound like a daft comment. But... "Euro"Vision. The title says it all. How did Israel which is in the Middle East, get into Eurovision in the first place? Who's next Colombia?" Have a look at the European Broadcasting Union web site. You will see that it is a worldwide group of public sector broadcasters and is not restricted to Europe despite the name. | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too.The Green Prince, the son of a Hamas founder and brought up to succeed his father. He says Hamas are never to be trusted, will never stop until all Jews are wiped out and they will never stop their barbaric, terrorist actions. He is probably the best suited to give a genuine description of Hamas as a group and what their true intentions are. Mrs x I haven't seen any comments supporting hamas or their actions.Which have been roubdly condemned. What the debate moved on to was Israel actions prosecuting the war / invasion. Basically displacing or killing anyone in their path. Well put. One poster suggested that people had forgotten what had happened in October. They haven’t. So this is about proportionality? How should Israel respond here, should they fight back, should it just be a diplomatic approach, what is appropriate for an invasion on sovereign soul, the murder of over 1200 citizens and kid napping of over 250. And all this from a group that has fired thousands of missiles into your country, for decades? So what would be appropriate? Mrs x Diplomacy, adhering to un resolutions, formation of Palestinian state, ceasing settlement building on Palestinian land, prosecute any war crimes following due lrocess.. As for hamas, they need to surrender their terrorists and prosecute any war crimes and follow due process and participate in a meaningful diplomatic solution. Unpicking years of abuse and conflict will take time but it needs to start. America and Iran and Russia of course are happy to see their war carried out by proxy. " Formation of a Palestinian state? Gaza is a Palestinian state which is governed by Hamas. The West Bank by Fatah. There have been 5 occasions Israel have been involved in the negotiations of a two state solution. Each time the Arab League cancelled the negotiations. 5 separate times. No recognition, no acceptance When Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, over 1000 missiles were launched from Gaza into Israel. When is enough, enough. Israel say Oct 7th is the straw that broke the camels back and they are going to rid themselves of the threat from Hamas. They are not against Palistinians, they have over 2 million Palestinian citizens living in Israel. The ordinary Israeli citizens voted for this government because they want this sort of response from their government. They have also suffered since the formation of Israel and they want protecting. Unfortunately Hamas have underestimated the levels Istael are prepared to go to in order to protect their civilians. Mrs x | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too.The Green Prince, the son of a Hamas founder and brought up to succeed his father. He says Hamas are never to be trusted, will never stop until all Jews are wiped out and they will never stop their barbaric, terrorist actions. He is probably the best suited to give a genuine description of Hamas as a group and what their true intentions are. Mrs x I haven't seen any comments supporting hamas or their actions.Which have been roubdly condemned. What the debate moved on to was Israel actions prosecuting the war / invasion. Basically displacing or killing anyone in their path. Well put. One poster suggested that people had forgotten what had happened in October. They haven’t. So this is about proportionality? How should Israel respond here, should they fight back, should it just be a diplomatic approach, what is appropriate for an invasion on sovereign soul, the murder of over 1200 citizens and kid napping of over 250. And all this from a group that has fired thousands of missiles into your country, for decades? So what would be appropriate? Mrs x Maybe follow international law? " What International Law have they, or Hamas been found guilty of? They haven't, yet. Mrs x | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too.The Green Prince, the son of a Hamas founder and brought up to succeed his father. He says Hamas are never to be trusted, will never stop until all Jews are wiped out and they will never stop their barbaric, terrorist actions. He is probably the best suited to give a genuine description of Hamas as a group and what their true intentions are. Mrs x I haven't seen any comments supporting hamas or their actions.Which have been roubdly condemned. What the debate moved on to was Israel actions prosecuting the war / invasion. Basically displacing or killing anyone in their path. Well put. One poster suggested that people had forgotten what had happened in October. They haven’t. So this is about proportionality? How should Israel respond here, should they fight back, should it just be a diplomatic approach, what is appropriate for an invasion on sovereign soul, the murder of over 1200 citizens and kid napping of over 250. And all this from a group that has fired thousands of missiles into your country, for decades? So what would be appropriate? Mrs x Maybe follow international law? What International Law have they, or Hamas been found guilty of? They haven't, yet. Mrs x" Found guilty of? Israel have not been charged with anything, so how could they have been found guilty? Doesn’t mean they have followed international law. And hamas are a terrorist organisation, not a state, so how exactly would you charge them? | |||
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" Maybe follow international law? " Would you like to explain in detail what international law the democratically elected government of Israel has broken? | |||
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"Ridiculous. Don't care who it is offends. Israel has the right to defend itself against terrorist attacks. Am Yisrael Chai. "
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"May sound like a daft comment. But... "Euro"Vision. The title says it all. How did Israel which is in the Middle East, get into Eurovision in the first place? Who's next Colombia?" Considering that you have the greatest source of information and knowledge since time began at your fingertips, AKA the internet, I'm afraid it is a bit of a daft comment. The "Euro" in "Eurovision" doesn't refer to Europe the continent, it refers to the European Broadcasting Union. This union includes such countries as Australia, Armenia, Israel, Morocco and Qatar to name but a few. Australia has hosted the competition several times and Israel have been participating since the early 1970's. | |||
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"And for all the talk about Israel being genocidal. 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs. Any Jews in Arab or Muslim countries with rights? Nope. They were driven out or killed when Israel was created. Iran had 150,000 Jews, Algeria 140,000 in 1948. They barely have any left in those countries nowadays. " And closer to home, the Christian community in Gaza is just one third of what it was in 2005. In the West Bank, Christians have gone from being 10% of the population to being less than 1%. Under Islam, Christians are considered dhimmi, a tolerated but second class who are afforded protection by Islam. Dhimmitude is integral to Islam; it is a "protection pact" that suspends "the [Muslim] conqueror's initial right to kill or ensl*ve provided they submitted themselves to pay tribute." | |||
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"And for all the talk about Israel being genocidal. 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs. Any Jews in Arab or Muslim countries with rights? Nope. They were driven out or killed when Israel was created. Iran had 150,000 Jews, Algeria 140,000 in 1948. They barely have any left in those countries nowadays. And closer to home, the Christian community in Gaza is just one third of what it was in 2005. In the West Bank, Christians have gone from being 10% of the population to being less than 1%. Under Islam, Christians are considered dhimmi, a tolerated but second class who are afforded protection by Islam. Dhimmitude is integral to Islam; it is a "protection pact" that suspends "the [Muslim] conqueror's initial right to kill or ensl*ve provided they submitted themselves to pay tribute." " That’s “closer to home” is it? You live in / near Gaza? | |||
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"I’m saddened that people want to disrupt this iconic even Music is supposed to bring people together These brave souls demonstrating far away from Isreal Idiots It’s sad" Israelis politics don't dictate their entry | |||
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"That’s “closer to home” is it? You live in / near Gaza? " I was referring to the UK, on paper at least, being a predominately Christian country in the hope, if not expectation, that some would understand a little bit more if I referred to a religion that many posters would recognise. | |||
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"The interview that pears morgan had with mosab hassan yousef, the eldest son of one of the cofounders of hamas was interesting, he have great insides into hamas and is on israels side too.The Green Prince, the son of a Hamas founder and brought up to succeed his father. He says Hamas are never to be trusted, will never stop until all Jews are wiped out and they will never stop their barbaric, terrorist actions. He is probably the best suited to give a genuine description of Hamas as a group and what their true intentions are. Mrs x I haven't seen any comments supporting hamas or their actions.Which have been roubdly condemned. What the debate moved on to was Israel actions prosecuting the war / invasion. Basically displacing or killing anyone in their path. Well put. One poster suggested that people had forgotten what had happened in October. They haven’t. So this is about proportionality? How should Israel respond here, should they fight back, should it just be a diplomatic approach, what is appropriate for an invasion on sovereign soul, the murder of over 1200 citizens and kid napping of over 250. And all this from a group that has fired thousands of missiles into your country, for decades? So what would be appropriate? Mrs x Maybe follow international law? What International Law have they, or Hamas been found guilty of? They haven't, yet. Mrs x Found guilty of? Israel have not been charged with anything, so how could they have been found guilty? Doesn’t mean they have followed international law. And hamas are a terrorist organisation, not a state, so how exactly would you charge them? " Hamas are also a political entity, they were voted in to rule Gaza in 2005 and can be charged by the ICC, in fact this was stated by the ICC when it declared it had authority over Gaza. So which International Law has Israel not followed? Mrs x | |||
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"And for all the talk about Israel being genocidal. 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs. Any Jews in Arab or Muslim countries with rights? Nope. They were driven out or killed when Israel was created. Iran had 150,000 Jews, Algeria 140,000 in 1948. They barely have any left in those countries nowadays. And closer to home, the Christian community in Gaza is just one third of what it was in 2005. In the West Bank, Christians have gone from being 10% of the population to being less than 1%. Under Islam, Christians are considered dhimmi, a tolerated but second class who are afforded protection by Islam. Dhimmitude is integral to Islam; it is a "protection pact" that suspends "the [Muslim] conqueror's initial right to kill or ensl*ve provided they submitted themselves to pay tribute." That’s “closer to home” is it? You live in / near Gaza? " Do you really believe that this poster meant that they live in Gaza because they used the phrase "closer to home"? The phrase means nothing of the sort! I'm afraid you've just perfectly demonstrated the limits of your comprehension of this, and probably every other post. | |||
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" Maybe follow international law? Would you like to explain in detail what international law the democratically elected government of Israel has broken?" We know they haven't. It's just pushed by those who object morally with Israels approach to the war, without looking for actual facts to support what they say. Mrs x | |||
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