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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

So, the English language appears to be a conundrum in itself, with its many developments, evolutions, mutations and dilutions over centuries.

But, in simplest terms, please say if the below two sentences are "More similar" or "More dissimilar". Explain why as needed:

1) Homosapien is the general name for human beings.

2) Homosapien is the general name for all human beings.

Again, please say "more similar" or "more dissimilar", and why.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Slow night in solitude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, the English language appears to be a conundrum in itself, with its many developments, evolutions, mutations and dilutions over centuries.

But, in simplest terms, please say if the below two sentences are "More similar" or "More dissimilar". Explain why as needed:

1) Homosapien is the general name for human beings.

2) Homosapien is the general name for all human beings.

Again, please say "more similar" or "more dissimilar", and why."

My English is awful , I don't have a clue what any of that means

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By *ady4ladyWoman
over a year ago

liverpool

Homo Erectus was prequel to Homosapien, I like that name better.

Blonde point of view but hey

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I think 'more similar/dissimilar' is not very good grammar to be honest. 'Similar/dissimilar' is sufficient. Now if you had two sets of two sentences so they can be compared then one set could be 'more similar/dissimilar' than the other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure what it means, but who cares anyway - just look at his pics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had wine .... No comment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not sure what it means, but who cares anyway - just look at his pics

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By *lackboaWoman
over a year ago

greenock

i dont understand the question.....'more similar/dissimilar' to to what?...or am i just being thick??

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

The sensible side of me wants to answer, the frivolous side wants sarcasm to be written in it's stead, a conundrum for myself indeed

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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

"i dont understand the question.....'more similar/dissimilar' to to what?...or am i just being thick??

Lol - Simply put, when you read both sentences does your mind go "What's the fucking difference?" or "Hold up - that's so not the same thing at all!" ?

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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

"Slow night in solitude

I have lots of time to myself to ponder my navel

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By *win PeaksCouple
over a year ago

Northamptonshire

"i dont understand the question.....'more similar/dissimilar' to to what?...or am i just being thick??

Lol - Simply put, when you read both sentences does your mind go "What's the fucking difference?" or "Hold up - that's so not the same thing at all!" ?

Careful guys, this man has been to school. Lol

Dave

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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

"I think 'more similar/dissimilar' is not very good grammar to be honest. 'Similar/dissimilar' is sufficient. Now if you had two sets of two sentences so they can be compared then one set could be 'more similar/dissimilar' than the other."

Interesting point raised. Perhaps my approach was "More similar than dissimilar" or "More dissimilar than similar" as I don't want to assume they are completely and exclusively "similar" or "dissimilar" .. not till I have a Doctorate in English Language at least

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By *ady4ladyWoman
over a year ago

liverpool

ok, my brain says both statements are the same

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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

"i dont understand the question.....'more similar/dissimilar' to to what?...or am i just being thick??

Lol - Simply put, when you read both sentences does your mind go "What's the fucking difference?" or "Hold up - that's so not the same thing at all!" ?

Careful guys, this man has been to school. Lol

Dave"

Too right! Them Abacuses* came in useful.

Ref: Abacuses - not to be confused with the band Abba "cussing" on stage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Slow night in solitude

I have lots of time to myself to ponder my navel

Hmmmm....... indeed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a lot of PISH!

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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

"What a lot of PISH!"

Is that a euphemism?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Ahabs? Have a wank, mate

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

This could take some time.

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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

"Ahabs? Have a wank, mate

I must be doing something wrong - more satisfying pondering my navel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who actually gives a shit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ahabs? Have a wank, mate

I must be doing something wrong - more satisfying pondering my navel

Then you need a good woman to help you out

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

They are equally similar AND dissimilar.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Actually, I really would rather have a wank, however, you write 'homo sapien' but in general usage, it's more appropriate to use 'homo sapiens' even to describe a singular although the 's' on the end makes it sound plural in English, it's not. So, Captain Ahabs, your question is unanswerable because it doesn't make grammatical sense

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

If we were following Latin rules, the plural of Homo sapiens would be Homines sapientes to describe the plural of 'human being'.

I'm going to bed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If we were following Latin rules, the plural of Homo sapiens would be Homines sapientes to describe the plural of 'human being'.

I'm going to bed."

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By *hunderstarCouple
over a year ago

hereford

Yellow towels arnt heavy. I could do that!

Although - it would be dissimilar to you.

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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

Ok, lets alter the subject, but maintain the context:

1) Wheels is the general name for automobile tyres.

2) "Wheels" is the general name for all automobile tyres.

And since its been asked ["Who gives a shit?"] I do, otherwise I would not have raised the question: and yes, I have my reasons for asking.

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By *ady4ladyWoman
over a year ago

liverpool

"Ok, lets alter the subject, but maintain the context:

1) Wheels is the general name for automobile tyres.

2) "Wheels" is the general name for all automobile tyres.

And since its been asked ["Who gives a shit?"] I do, otherwise I would not have raised the question: and yes, I have my reasons for asking."

1- gives the impression that wheels would be used as the name for some tyres

2 - tells me that wheels IS the name for 'all' tyres

therefore the statements are not the same.

i think !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I see the statements as meaning the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't read the replies but Ahabs there is no difference in the sentences as the inference on human beings is "all". you or the next sentence does not pose exceptions so the all is a mere red herring

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Slow night in solitude

Another post that has tickled my funny bone!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok, lets alter the subject, but maintain the context:

1) Wheels is the general name for automobile tyres.

2) "Wheels" is the general name for all automobile tyres.

And since its been asked ["Who gives a shit?"] I do, otherwise I would not have raised the question: and yes, I have my reasons for asking."

A wheel is not a tyre there is still a wheel within a tyre

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok, lets alter the subject, but maintain the context:

1) Wheels is the general name for automobile tyres.

2) "Wheels" is the general name for all automobile tyres.

And since its been asked ["Who gives a shit?"] I do, otherwise I would not have raised the question: and yes, I have my reasons for asking."

Mine are all named Goodyear.

Your use of quotation marks has caused me an episode of typophilia

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Neanderthal man reporting for duty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, the English language appears to be a conundrum in itself, with its many developments, evolutions, mutations and dilutions over centuries.

But, in simplest terms, please say if the below two sentences are "More similar" or "More dissimilar". Explain why as needed:

1) Homosapien is the general name for human beings.

2) Homosapien is the general name for all human beings.

Again, please say "more similar" or "more dissimilar", and why."

The sentences themselves are more similar to each other as reading them there is only one word of difference. That is the easy answer at this time of night. The more complex answer I'm not going to go into, my brain would hurt.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

my grammars dead ..... so is my grandad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i dont understand the question.....'more similar/dissimilar' to to what?...or am i just being thick??

Lol - Simply put, when you read both sentences does your mind go "What's the fucking difference?" or "Hold up - that's so not the same thing at all!" ?

Careful guys, this man has been to school. Lol

Dave"

Oh crumbs, he's not one of those well-educated ones we hear so much about? I bet he always clean, shows up and is discrete or discreet too.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

i think this fellow is in dire need of coitus or fellatio

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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

"i dont understand the question.....'more similar/dissimilar' to to what?...or am i just being thick??

Lol - Simply put, when you read both sentences does your mind go "What's the fucking difference?" or "Hold up - that's so not the same thing at all!" ?

Careful guys, this man has been to school. Lol

Dave

Oh crumbs, he's not one of those well-educated ones we hear so much about? I bet he always clean, shows up and is discrete or discreet too.

2 out of 3 is all am admitting to...

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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

"i think this fellow is in dire need of coitus or fellatio"

I need to get rid of my insomnia.. it plays havoc with me being awake during the day time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suppose you mean compare the two sentences?

'all' is an adjective. And a quantifier too I suppose.

So really not different just a little more descriptive with 'all'. Could be said of any sentences with or without adjectives. Such as: 'I took down her knickers'. Or 'I took down her frilly, black knickers'.

If you reply I suspect you're gonna tell me there's more to it than that though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tyres is the generally accepted name for tyres, wheels are entirely different. By the way the word 'all' in both statements is entirely superfluous.

Wheely, some people !

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By *john121Man
over a year ago

staffs

They are equally similar AND dissimilar."

true

but in example 2

2) Homosapien is the general name for all human beings.

in this sentence the 'all' is redundant as there is only Homo Sapiens. which refers to the human race, all other known species are long since extinct.

Homo erectus

Primate

Homo erectus is an extinct species of hominid that lived from the end of the Pliocene epoch to the later Pleistocene, with the earliest first fossil evidence dating to around 1.8 million years ago and the most recent to around 300,000 years ago.

Neanderthal

Primate

The Neanderthals or Neandertals are an extinct species or subspecies of the genus Homo which is closely related to modern humans.

Humans (Homo sapiens) are primates of the family Hominidae, and the only extant (still in existence) species of the genus Homo. Humans are characterized by having a large brain relative to body size, with a particularly well developed neocortex, prefrontal cortex and temporal lobes

gazes back at belly button and the fluff there in..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I need a lie down. Or a lay down. Shit this thread has made me self conscious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't agree with either as the humans are actually Homo sapiens sapiens according to Linnaean taxonomy

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By *john121Man
over a year ago

staffs

"I don't agree with either as the humans are actually Homo sapiens sapiens according to Linnaean taxonomy"

as "Linnaean taxonomy" as such does not really exist: it is a collective (abstracting) term for what actually are several separate fields, which use similar approaches.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"Tyres is the generally accepted name for tyres, wheels are entirely different. By the way the word 'all' in both statements is entirely superfluous.

Wheely, some people !

What's the difference between a weasel and a stoat?

One's weasely recognizable whereas the other's stoatally different

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tyres is the generally accepted name for tyres, wheels are entirely different. By the way the word 'all' in both statements is entirely superfluous.

Wheely, some people !

What's the difference between a weasel and a stoat?

One's weasely recognizable whereas the other's stoatally different

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tyres is the generally accepted name for tyres, wheels are entirely different. By the way the word 'all' in both statements is entirely superfluous.

Wheely, some people !

What's the difference between a weasel and a stoat?

One's weasely recognizable whereas the other's stoatally different

I used to love this as a kid. My dad would always say it made me crack up. One of the things that reminds me of him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a slight difference in how it is written obviously with the added word "All".

I guess if you're looking at the difference and this was a test I'd say that the second statement is very specific in the fact it's saying All Human beings are referred to as Homasapiens whereas the first statement may be a little less direct but not much.

Overall though I think it depends on the person and how descriptive and direct they want to be.

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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

"There is a slight difference in how it is written obviously with the added word "All".

Overall though I think it depends on the person and how descriptive and direct they want to be."

YES.. as in the example of human beings, .. or automobile types I've merely exchanged the subject but kept the construction of both sentences the same.

That's the idea - I'm trying to compare both sentences.

Basically, (irrespective of the specific of the subject in each example) would you say the two sentences are (more) similar or (more) dissimilar?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I miss both my grammars they were both great bakers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is a slight difference in how it is written obviously with the added word "All".

Overall though I think it depends on the person and how descriptive and direct they want to be.

YES.. as in the example of human beings, .. or automobile types I've merely exchanged the subject but kept the construction of both sentences the same.

That's the idea - I'm trying to compare both sentences.

Basically, (irrespective of the specific of the subject in each example) would you say the two sentences are (more) similar or (more) dissimilar?

An English doctorate in prospect and you start your last paragraph with 'basically'?

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"Basically, (irrespective of the specific of the subject in each example) would you say the two sentences are (more) similar or (more) dissimilar?

Are you shorter than me, or am I taller than you

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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

"There is a slight difference in how it is written obviously with the added word "All".

Overall though I think it depends on the person and how descriptive and direct they want to be.

YES.. as in the example of human beings, .. or automobile types I've merely exchanged the subject but kept the construction of both sentences the same.

That's the idea - I'm trying to compare both sentences.

Basically, (irrespective of the specific of the subject in each example) would you say the two sentences are (more) similar or (more) dissimilar?

An English doctorate in prospect and you start your last paragraph with 'basically'?"

You so missed the bit I bastardised earlier... it was like... so epic!

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By *habs OP Man
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

"Basically, (irrespective of the specific of the subject in each example) would you say the two sentences are (more) similar or (more) dissimilar?

Are you shorter than me, or am I taller than you

You're definitely taller than me - I am definitely not shorter than you,.. those are two completely different things!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"You're definitely taller than me - I am definitely not shorter than you,.. those are two completely different things!

Both statements are equally true.

At 5' 7" to 6' 1" there is no maybe, you definitely are shorter than me

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

He's 6' 5" in my eyes.

He's ALL Of 6' 5" in my eyes.

Are these two sentences (more) similar or (more) dissimilar ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd say the issue is with the question, not the statement. When is something more dissimilar, opposed to less similar?

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

If you are comparing both statements, they can be similar or dissimilar, but (more) than what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe more dissimilar is similar to less similar?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Maybe more dissimilar is similar to less similar?"

Maybe greater dissimilarity is dissimilar to lesser similarity.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"If you are comparing both statements, they can be similar or dissimilar, but (more) than what?"

That's what I said!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"If you are comparing both statements, they can be similar or dissimilar, but (more) than what?"

Is 'if' a greater comparison than 'what' or is 'what' a lesser comparison than a contrast than than?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"If you are comparing both statements, they can be similar or dissimilar, but (more) than what?

That's what I said!

I'm sure a man in a hat said it. Mind you you are both as dissimilar as you are similar so it could have been you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hehe..More dissimilar could be a similar simile; to a similar simile that was similar to dissimilar.

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

i'm bemused

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"i'm bemused

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i'm bemused

Yes. "

I'm less dissimilar to that

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"If you are comparing both statements, they can be similar or dissimilar, but (more) than what?

That's what I said!

I'm sure a man in a hat said it. Mind you you are both as dissimilar as you are similar so it could have been you."

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"Is 'if' a greater comparison than 'what' or is 'what' a lesser comparison than a contrast than than?"

"If" is not a comparison & now look what you've done to poor yam

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

If is not a comparison? What if a picture paints a thousand words ?

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"If is not a comparison? What if a picture paints a thousand words ?"

That is a question, surely you have to have something to compare it to in order for there to be a comparison

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If is not a comparison? What if a picture paints a thousand words ?

That is a question, surely you have to have something to compare it to in order for there to be a comparison

Not *if* you have a vivid imagination..

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"If is not a comparison? What if a picture paints a thousand words ?

That is a question, surely you have to have something to compare it to in order for there to be a comparison

Don't call me Shirley

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"If is not a comparison? What if a picture paints a thousand words ?

That is a question, surely you have to have something to compare it to in order for there to be a comparison

Don't call me Shirley"

Are you serious

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